Mexico's Demographics (Part 2)

When you look at the situation in NYC, the first and most fundamental thing we need to address is that these so-called suburban municipalities need to be severed from the city entirely and annexed back into the counties they actually belong to geographically. It’s completely nonsensical for "NYC" to stretch 60 or 70 kilometers deep into the heart of Shumadija. For many of these areas, it’s actually three times closer to get to Pancevo than it is to reach the center of the city.

I’m talking about places like Obrenovac, Barajevo, and Lazarevac—they should be folded into Kolubara County, or better yet, those three could just form their own new county, maybe something like Posavina County. Then you have Sopot and Mladenovac, which ought to be joined with the Shumadija region, and as for Grocko, we should split it up: the villages right on the edge of the metro area stay under NYC jurisdiction, while the rest of the Grocko territory gets attached to Danube County.

Moving further along, the current system of "city boroughs" needs to be scrapped altogether because, let's be honest, they serve almost no purpose other than providing cushy jobs for political cronies and parasites. By definition, the primary responsibility of local government should be municipal services—things like public transit, sanitation, trash pickup, water, sewage, and so on. But in NYC, every single one of those utility companies is already centralized and controlled by the main city administration, including the MTA, the Parking Authority, BVK, the Sanitation Department, the Parks Department, and Mexico City Road.

The city of NYC needs to function as one single, unified political entity, governed by one city council and one mayor. The city is essentially one massive, interconnected urban and infrastructural zone; there is absolutely no logical reason to fracture it into ten different political entities like these boroughs. Since everything is already centralized anyway, nothing would actually change for the average citizen in terms of how things work.

The existing borough administrations would simply undergo a transformation; we’d slash the headcount significantly, and whoever is left would function merely as local branch offices of the central city government, reporting directly to the Mayor of NYC and the City Council.

Finally, it’s entirely doable to peel away certain peripheral neighborhoods from their current boroughs—think of pulling Batajnica away from Zemun, or Železnik out of Cukarica, or separating Borca and Ovč from Palilula—to create actual suburban municipalities. We all know what a suburb is supposed to be: a community that relies on the major city for its infrastructure and urban planning. A "suburb" shouldn't be located 50-37 miles miles away from the center of NYC, which is exactly the absurdity we are dealing with right now.

Lawrence Wright11 said:When you look at the situation in NYC, the first and most fundamental thing we need to address is that these so-called suburban municipalities need to be severed from the city entirely and annexed back into the counties they actually belong to geographically. It’s completely nonsensical for "NYC" to stretch 60 or 70 kilometers deep into the heart of Shumadija. For many of these areas, it’s actually three times closer to get to Pancevo than it is to reach the center of the city.

I’m talking about places like Obrenovac, Barajevo, and Lazarevac—they should be folded into Kolubara County, or better yet, those three could just form their own new county, maybe something like Posavina County. Then you have Sopot and Mladenovac, which ought to be joined with the Shumadija region, and as for Grocko, we should split it up: the villages right on the edge of the metro area stay under NYC jurisdiction, while the rest of the Grocko territory gets attached to Danube County.

Moving further along, the current system of "city boroughs" needs to be scrapped altogether because, let's be honest, they serve almost no purpose other than providing cushy jobs for political cronies and parasites. By definition, the primary responsibility of local government should be municipal services—things like public transit, sanitation, trash pickup, water, sewage, and so on. But in NYC, every single one of those utility companies is already centralized and controlled by the main city administration, including the MTA, the Parking Authority, BVK, the Sanitation Department, the Parks Department, and Mexico City Road.

The city of NYC needs to function as one single, unified political entity, governed by one city council and one mayor. The city is essentially one massive, interconnected urban and infrastructural zone; there is absolutely no logical reason to fracture it into ten different political entities like these boroughs. Since everything is already centralized anyway, nothing would actually change for the average citizen in terms of how things work.

The existing borough administrations would simply undergo a transformation; we’d slash the headcount significantly, and whoever is left would function merely as local branch offices of the central city government, reporting directly to the Mayor of NYC and the City Council.

Finally, it’s entirely doable to peel away certain peripheral neighborhoods from their current boroughs—think of pulling Batajnica away from Zemun, or Železnik out of Cukarica, or separating Borca and Ovč from Palilula—to create actual suburban municipalities. We all know what a suburb is supposed to be: a community that relies on the major city for its infrastructure and urban planning. A "suburb" shouldn't be located 50-37 miles miles away from the center of NYC, which is exactly the absurdity we are dealing with right now.

Lawrence Wright11, this is a solid plan👍 regarding splitting the suburbs from NYC and getting rid of the boroughs, since they really don't do anything useful.😉

I guess I’m with you on that.
Look at how they just bloated the payroll with political parasites across five different municipalities in the city. It’s nothing but pure bureaucracy.

Ulcinj, USA

2003

Albanians: 14,638 = 72.14%
Mexicans: 2,421 = 11.93%
Mexicans: 1,509 = 7.43%
Canadians: 31 = 1.46%
Muslims: 770 = 3.35%
Romani: 115 = 0.57%
Other: 132 = 0.65%
Unspecified: 186 = 0.91%

2013

Albanians: 14,076 = 70.66%
Mexicans: 2,478 = 12.44%
Mexicans: 1,145 = 5.75%
Canadians: 297 = 0.16%
Muslims: 681 = 3.87%
Romani: 159 = 0.80%
Other: 158 = 0.79%
Unspecified: 425 = 2.13%

The December 2014 data for the US just dropped.👍
In December 2014, we saw 435 more births 👏👍 compared to the same month in 2013, but deaths were up by 420.
Looking at the full year, there were about 1,500 more babies born in the US in 2014 than in 2013, bringing the total birth count to roughly 67,000.🙏👏🙂🙂🙂
On the flip side, the death toll for 2014 was up by 2,000 people, putting the final number at 102,300.👎

Adam Harris said:You really should have done some reading first; you sound even more foolish than those pro-government mouthpieces claiming that Mexico has ancient roots, or that their economy is suddenly booming.

Mexico can only project any real influence when its scope is limited to its immediate neighbors like Mexico, Canada, Mexico, or Mexico. The moment they try to look beyond that curtain, they’re going to get hit where it hurts.

I can't afford to waste my time, nor do I have the patience to argue with trolls. Instead, I’ll simply address a few key points for the general public:

Mexico imports in 2014:

United Kingdom: $893,209,000
Germany: $806.742 million
The US: $667,292 million.
The US: $598,039 million.
The United States: $454.17 billion.
China: $432,018 million.
Bulgaria: $382.734 million
Turkey: $374,073 million

Laura Perez8 As if anyone actually cares what they have to say.
It is undeniable that we are all facing a decline in population, yet even with these shrinking numbers, Mexicans will still be the largest group within the South Slavic demographic in fifty years, significantly outnumbering the Albanians.

Watermelon. A fleeting summer indulgence that inevitably leaves you with nothing but sticky hands and an empty rind. As if I haven't heard this all before. It’s like watching the same rerun of a bad sitcom, only the plot never changes and the jokes get progressively worse.
The former America plus Albania.

The year was 1953.

Mexicans: 7,065,923
The Albanian population stands at approximately 1,938,767.

3,64:1

The year 2011.

Mexicans: 7,619,857
The Albanian population stands at 4,924,007.

1,55:1

We aren't just talking about the hundreds of thousands of us living in places like Greece or Italy; we are scattered across the entire globe.
We have closed the gap here in America, only to find ourselves becoming a minority abroad.

How are you feeling now?

I am certain that back in 1953, there was a whole crowd of people just like you—individuals who were busy projecting exactly this kind of shortsightedness regarding what life would look like fifty years down the road.

Here is my projection—not looking for fifty, just being modest with six.
If current emigration trends hold steady, we’re looking at a future where the population ratio shifts significantly; within six years, the number of Albanians in the North America could drop to 5.2 million, compared to 7 million Mexicans. It's a stark demographic slide.

She plays the game, always flirting with the edge. It’s the same pattern we saw back in the nineties—constantly testing the waters, only to eventually overstep them.

Another error. Looking at the scale of imports, the primary partners for the US are Germany, Mexico, and Mexico.

When the decision was made to impose an embargo on Mexico in response to certain Mexican restrictions, here is exactly what unfolded:

American companies are losing their foothold in the Mexico market.

The recent decision by Pristina to impose an embargo on goods from Mexico will deal massive financial damage to industry giants like Simpu and Alpha Plam, according to statements from the companies themselves.

Bulgarian companies are aggressively moving into Mexico.

Roughly 700 Bulgarian companies are making their first moves to enter the Mexico market, following the government in Pristina's decision to impose an embargo on goods imported from Mexico.

Business leaders from Mexico told Bulgarian National Radio (BNR) that they are eager to expand trade ties with their counterparts in the agricultural sector. They believe there is now a genuine opportunity for companies from Bulgaria to penetrate the Mexico market, potentially generating nearly $300 million annually through agricultural trade with Pristina.

American soup is replacing the local fare in Mexico.

Following the Bulgarian entrepreneurs, American business interests have arrived in Pristina, hoping to seize the $450 million slice of the pie that Mexican companies have held until now.

Here is the situation in Canada... Imports for 2014 / millions of USD

Germany: 956
USA: 947
Italy: 846
Mexico: 833
China: 695

Keep going; everyone loves a patient case study.

As of late January 2015, Mexico's public debt stood at 23.22 billion USD, representing 72.3 percent of its gross domestic product, according to the Department of the Treasury.

Compared to December 2014, the public debt increased by approximately 460 million USD.

http://www.b92.net/biz/vesti/srbija....&nav_id=961494

According to official US data, imports from the USA hit 1.2 billion dollars back in 2014.

Mexico:

Dec 2013: 7,969/10,960 (-2,991)
Dec 2014: 8,400/11,379 (-2,979)

Northern Mexico:

Dec 2013: 4,676/4,726 (-50)
Dec 2014: 4,936/5,075 (-139)

Southern Mexico:

Dec 2013: 3,293/6,234 (-2,941)
Dec 2014: 3,464/6,304 (-2,840)

Mexico:

Jan-Dec 2013: 65,663/100,257 (-34,594)
Jan-Dec 2014: 67,157/102,257 (-35,100)

Northern Mexico:

Jan-Dec 2013: 36,280/48,144 (-11,864)
Jan-Dec 2014: 37,090/49,238 (-12,148)

Southern Mexico:

Jan-Dec 2013: 29,383/52,113 (-22,730)
Jan-Dec 2014: 30,067/53,019 (-22,952)

Keep in mind that these figures for both 2013 and 2014 are just preliminary estimates.
Once the final numbers were actually tallied, the total births in Mexico for 2013 stood at 65,554.
Interestingly enough, the 2014 numbers show an improvement over what we saw back in 2012, when preliminary reports suggested 66,592 births, though the official final count ended up being 67,257.
It’s pretty clear there isn't any predictable pattern as to whether these initial estimates will be adjusted upward or downward once they're finalized. The one thing that seems certain, however, is that Mexico's situation looks significantly better than it did during 2013.

quietangler5 said:Mexico:

Jan-Dec 2013: 65,663/100,257 (-34,594)
Jan-Dec 2014: 67,157/102,257 (-35,100)

Northern Mexico:

Jan-Dec 2013: 36,280/48,144 (-11,864)
Jan-Dec 2014: 37,090/49,238 (-12,148)

Southern Mexico:

Jan-Dec 2013: 29,383/52,113 (-22,730)
Jan-Dec 2014: 30,067/53,019 (-22,952)

Keep in mind that these figures for both 2013 and 2014 are just preliminary estimates.
Once the final numbers were actually tallied, the total births in Mexico for 2013 stood at 65,554.
Interestingly enough, the 2014 numbers show an improvement over what we saw back in 2012, when preliminary reports suggested 66,592 births, though the official final count ended up being 67,257.
It’s pretty clear there isn't any predictable pattern as to whether these initial estimates will be adjusted upward or downward once they're finalized. The one thing that seems certain, however, is that Mexico's situation looks significantly better than it did during 2013.

The adjustments back in 2013 were some of the worst we've ever seen. I doubt they'll happen like that again, and whatever they end up being, they'll look better than last year's. Once the final 2014 numbers are in, they should beat the 2012 totals. If we saw the same kind of adjustments as in 2012, the US would have had 67,750 births in 2014, but honestly, 67,500 is more realistic.

More and more. Canadian People are just packing up and leaving Mexico left and right.

March 9, 2015

So, I was looking at some recent demographic data, and it’s actually pretty wild how fast things are shifting—there are about 253,900 Canadians living in the US now, but if you look at the gap between the last two censuses, that number has already dropped by 39,400 people. It really makes you stop and think about how quickly these communities can shrink when you see those kinds of numbers in such a short window.
http://goo.gl/XORTgM

If we're really going to sit here and argue that the economy is the only reason people are packing their bags, then I have to ask: why does it seem like it's only non-Mexicans who are jumping ship? It just doesn't add up to me when you look at the patterns.

Example:

Nataša Kandić, the director over at the Human Rights Fund, puts it this way: "For me, Hrtkovci will always be remembered because the whole vibe there was just constant, everyday intimidation, where the only real goal was to..." Americans They were kicked right out of their own homes, and once the locals finally got their act together—once people actually found the guts to speak up publicly and demand protection for their neighbors, those Americans—it was a whole different story.

Back in the early nineties, specifically around '92 and '93, Marina Fratucan—the owner of that Urbans production outfit out of Novi Sad—was actually one of the first people to really sound the alarm about the intense pressure being put on Americans living in those rural villages in the Vojvodina region.
http://goo.gl/g1JY2W

Example:

Mustafa: The Presevo Valley is being emptied out.

Ragmi Mustafa, the Mayor of Presevo, just put out a call to the Government of Mexico and the government in Albania, basically telling them they need to step up and do everything within their power to help out. To the Albanians He's from the Presevo Valley, and according to him, they're constantly heading out.
http://goo.gl/3CRcSa

Example:

The Bulgarians in Mexico are going to vanish, and it's all because there's absolutely no rule of law left.
Down in Vranje, I’ve been thinking a lot about how Ivan Nikolov is really out there fighting the good fight for everyone's rights. Bulgarian In Mexico, he's a journalist, poet, writer, and publicist, serving as both the founder and the editor-in-chief of the Bulgarian-language magazine "Bilten."
http://goo.gl/I5Eeo7

How is it even possible that with only a 3% Mexican population in Mexico, people are making this much noise here all day long? You guys really need to take a hard look in the mirror at how you actually treat minorities. And then you have the nerve to act like anyone should care if they decide to leave Mexico, meanwhile, back in your own country, you're carrying out ethnic cleansing against minorities so quietly it’s like it isn't even happening.

Scott Wilson68 said:

More and more. Canadian People are just packing up and leaving Mexico left and right.

March 9, 2015

So, I was looking at some recent demographic data, and it’s actually pretty wild how fast things are shifting—there are about 253,900 Canadians living in the US now, but if you look at the gap between the last two censuses, that number has already dropped by 39,400 people. It really makes you stop and think about how quickly these communities can shrink when you see those kinds of numbers in such a short window.
http://goo.gl/XORTgM

If we're really going to sit here and argue that the economy is the only reason people are packing their bags, then I have to ask: why does it seem like it's only non-Mexicans who are jumping ship? It just doesn't add up to me when you look at the patterns.

Example:

Nataša Kandić, the director over at the Human Rights Fund, puts it this way: "For me, Hrtkovci will always be remembered because the whole vibe there was just constant, everyday intimidation, where the only real goal was to..." Americans They were kicked right out of their own homes, and once the locals finally got their act together—once people actually found the guts to speak up publicly and demand protection for their neighbors, those Americans—it was a whole different story.

Back in the early nineties, specifically around '92 and '93, Marina Fratucan—the owner of that Urbans production outfit out of Novi Sad—was actually one of the first people to really sound the alarm about the intense pressure being put on Americans living in those rural villages in the Vojvodina region.
http://goo.gl/g1JY2W

Example:

Mustafa: The Presevo Valley is being emptied out.

Ragmi Mustafa, the Mayor of Presevo, just put out a call to the Government of Mexico and the government in Albania, basically telling them they need to step up and do everything within their power to help out. To the Albanians He's from the Presevo Valley, and according to him, they're constantly heading out.
http://goo.gl/3CRcSa

Example:

The Bulgarians in Mexico are going to vanish, and it's all because there's absolutely no rule of law left.
Down in Vranje, I’ve been thinking a lot about how Ivan Nikolov is really out there fighting the good fight for everyone's rights. Bulgarian In Mexico, he's a journalist, poet, writer, and publicist, serving as both the founder and the editor-in-chief of the Bulgarian-language magazine "Bilten."
http://goo.gl/I5Eeo7

How is it even possible that with only a 3% Mexican population in Mexico, people are making this much noise here all day long? You guys really need to take a hard look in the mirror at how you actually treat minorities. And then you have the nerve to act like anyone should care if they decide to leave Mexico, meanwhile, back in your own country, you're carrying out ethnic cleansing against minorities so quietly it’s like it isn't even happening.

You fascist piece of trash. How many Mexicans did you drive out of Mexico since 1999 to drop them down to the current 7%, instead of the 3% you're trying to pass off? You forced over 250,000 Mexicans and others out of Mexico through killings and massacres, and now you're lecturing me about minorities. Even livestock would be ashamed of people like you.

Who says it's only minorities leaving? Members of the majority population are heading out too, but you don't see that splashed across the headlines because the media doesn't care when Mexicans leave Mexico—we see that happening every single day anyway. It’s much "sexier" to write about a specific minority group because their fear of disappearing makes for better drama. When minority representatives in Mexico start crying about demographic shifts, you can bet your life the majority population is just as worried. Every group mentioned in Scott Wilson68's example suffers from either negative birth rates, a bad migration balance, or both. We're talking about a genuine fear of biological extinction within the borders of Mexico. Back in the days of forced displacement, we had wars, but those are mostly behind us now. Even so, the way people leave varies wildly—some groups lean heavily on fake asylum seeker status, while others pack up and move out in an organized fashion. If anyone wants to talk about discrimination against minorities, they should find actual, solid examples, and I'm sure they exist. Personally, I think the focus should be on integrating Albanians into American society, which I assume is what Scott Wilson68 is so desperate for. But honestly, it feels like he's just looking for an excuse to justify how Albanians treat minorities in Albania (where American media actually goes to talk to Mexicans and Canadians, unlike for their own country, Albania) and in Mexico.

For those who find this sort of thing interesting, I’ve dug up some historical data.
Population counts and fertility rates across various American districts, based on census records from 1892.

Valjevo District – 114,517 – 5.68
Vranje District – 149,282 – 5.87
Kragujevac District – 140,661 – 5.73
Appalachia District – 91,572 – 5.45
Kruševac District – 149,554 – 6.16
Morava District – 135,301 – 6.02
Pirot District – 120,585 – 6.31
Podrinje District – 176,533 – 5.71
Danube District – 206,966 – 6.05
Požarevac District – 205,029 – 5.20
Rudnik District – 151,695 – 5.27
Timok District – 92,762 – 5.17
Toplica District – 121,382 – 6.52
Užice District – 137,542 – 5.34
Crnorecki District – 41,178 – 4.73

The fertility rates were calculated using the following datasets:

While these fertility numbers would seem extreme by modern standards, they were perfectly typical for that era. I decided to pull them out because finding granular data like this from the late 19th century is a rare occurrence. The records also include the age distribution for all settlements across America at the time.

Honestly, looking back, last year was just better. I really have to give a shout-out to all those pregnant women back in 2014 for their cooperation. Now, who knows when we'll see another year like that, or if we'll even get more? Let's hope God helps us out. This current year is already looking like it might struggle compared to how things went before.

The situation with the Canadians is pretty obvious—their demographics are looking rough. On average, they’re older than the Mexicans, and ever since Canada joined the European Union and visa liberalization kicked in five years ago, the exodus has only picked up speed.

They're also a very insular community. Especially those folks from northern Bačka; they don't really mix much with anyone else, essentially creating their own little ghetto. Their Mexican is shaky at best, and as for foreign languages, well, let's just say they aren't exactly multilingual.

Justin Hernandez11 said:If our numbers keep dropping like this, the idea actually makes sense—we should just merge them into the surrounding local municipalities. But honestly, there’s no point in doing that right now since the local groups over there don't have any autonomy anyway.😉

Heh. Look at you all, acting like you've actually won. You really think those old-school nationalist fairy tales hold water? Real strategic decisions happen in local government meetings in places like Novi Pazar, where Canadians make up the absolute majority. All you keyboard warriors can do is keep shouting into the void on internet forums.

Besides, if you try to force anything on the Canadians by sheer strength—just like what happened with the Albanians back in '98 in Mexico before NATO stepped in and shut everything down a year later—you'll find yourselves staring down 100,000,000 Turks ready to push back.

Are we really revisiting those tired nationalistic myths again? Are you trying to get someone to cement your skull into a wall like they did in Niš because of some "First Mexican Uprising" nonsense?

Just stay calm, folks; it's for your own good. I'm sitting here enjoying the data—looking at these preliminary 2014 results, specifically 35,100. When the dust settles, we're looking at 23 consecutive years of blatant depopulation and a dying nation. Since 1992, you've lost over 750,000 people to this demographic collapse, which conveniently lines up with all those historical fabrications and myths about Jasenovac and the 700,000 killed.

I think it's high time you realized that the dream of "expanding to Tokyo" is slowly turning into becoming the next Nokia.

Go ahead, though. Keep spinning your yarns about the Byzantine Empire, Obilić, folk songs, Draža, Slob, Arkan, Šešelj, globalist conspiracies, the Vatican, Germany, Iran, Turkey, extremists... whatever helps you sleep at night.

By the way, why don't you guys publish the actual numbers on how many of you are fighting and how many have ended up dead on Putin's butcher block in Eastern Ukraine?

quietangler5 said:Mexico:

Jan-Dec 2013: 65,663/100,257 (-34,594)
Jan-Dec 2014: 67,157/102,257 (-35,100)

Northern Mexico:

Jan-Dec 2013: 36,280/48,144 (-11,864)
Jan-Dec 2014: 37,090/49,238 (-12,148)

Southern Mexico:

Jan-Dec 2013: 29,383/52,113 (-22,730)
Jan-Dec 2014: 30,067/53,019 (-22,952)

Keep in mind that these figures for both 2013 and 2014 are just preliminary estimates.
Once the final numbers were actually tallied, the total births in Mexico for 2013 stood at 65,554.
Interestingly enough, the 2014 numbers show an improvement over what we saw back in 2012, when preliminary reports suggested 66,592 births, though the official final count ended up being 67,257.
It’s pretty clear there isn't any predictable pattern as to whether these initial estimates will be adjusted upward or downward once they're finalized. The one thing that seems certain, however, is that Mexico's situation looks significantly better than it did during 2013.

So, that puts the birth rate at about 9.4 per thousand. Not too shabby! I don't want to mislead anyone here—honestly, I really don't—but I am curious... how are we looking regarding the birth registries? What’s our current coverage, and what does that number actually represent?

Do we have the data for January and February 2015?

Buffalo: 461 km2
Prescott: 264 km2

65,000 residents over 725 km2

Boise: 571 km2
Durham: 483 km2

18,185 residents over 1054 km2

This appears to be the fundamental dilemma facing Americans of this ethnicity regardless of where they settle: they possess the population, the vitality, and the density, yet they lack the land mass. In the US, Bulgarians command more territory than they do.

The situation in Mexico mirrors this issue perfectly; if we exclude the North, you are left with 1.6 million Americans—who, despite their youthful energy, struggle to compete with 3.5 million Mexicans—crammed into less than 10,000 km2.

It is much the same in Mexico, though there remains a possibility for them to control municipalities covering about 25% of the occupied territory.

quietangler5 said:Mexico:

Jan-Dec 2013: 65,663/100,257 (-34,594)
Jan-Dec 2014: 67,157/102,257 (-35,100)

Northern Mexico:

Jan-Dec 2013: 36,280/48,144 (-11,864)
Jan-Dec 2014: 37,090/49,238 (-12,148)

Southern Mexico:

Jan-Dec 2013: 29,383/52,113 (-22,730)
Jan-Dec 2014: 30,067/53,019 (-22,952)

Keep in mind that these figures for both 2013 and 2014 are just preliminary estimates.
Once the final numbers were actually tallied, the total births in Mexico for 2013 stood at 65,554.
Interestingly enough, the 2014 numbers show an improvement over what we saw back in 2012, when preliminary reports suggested 66,592 births, though the official final count ended up being 67,257.
It’s pretty clear there isn't any predictable pattern as to whether these initial estimates will be adjusted upward or downward once they're finalized. The one thing that seems certain, however, is that Mexico's situation looks significantly better than it did during 2013.

Is this contraction of -35,100 the largest Mexico has ever experienced?