Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021)

restlesssurfer97 said:Labor rights are basically the bedrock of any actual socialist movement, so how does that even make sense right now?
The whole idea of workers having a guaranteed day off every week is pretty much set in stone.

No.
Labor rights mean the right to be paid fairly for your work, not the right to avoid working altogether.

Matthew Young35 said:Personally, I couldn't care less if it's Sunday or a Wednesday.
So why bring up the "holy" aspect?
Because the clergy started this initiative, and they happen to be the loudest voices in the room.
The union hacks just latched onto the movement; I wouldn't bet against the idea that the Vatican provided them with funding or some other form of incentive to fall in line.

you are seriously twisted

It seems the most formidable individuals are those who pose as titans of industry, yet find themselves utterly scandalized by the mere suggestion of a free Sunday. I suppose one must give credit where it is due; if it weren't for your tireless contributions as the backbone of the workforce, the global economy might be at least fifty percent weaker as it is.

wiredrider9 said:you are seriously twisted

Me, sick?
I wouldn't call myself that. I'm not the one putting my faith in some bearded old man sitting on a cloud, watching everyone get off.

Matthew Young35 said:No.
Labor rights mean the right to be paid fairly for your work, not the right to avoid working altogether.

What people should actually be fighting for is a decent paycheck, standard working hours, and having your Saturdays and Sundays completely free to actually live your life.

Matthew Young35 said:No.
Labor rights mean the right to be paid fairly for your work, not the right to avoid working altogether.

A worker's right includes daily, weekly, or annual time off... this whole spinning the concept of "rights" into "laziness" is just a massive, convoluted mess.

But I suppose you're just trolling for the sake of trolling at this point, so... whatever.

Matthew Young35 said:Me, sick?
I wouldn't call myself that. I'm not the one putting my faith in some bearded old man sitting on a cloud, watching everyone get off.

lol

Anthony Wright30 said:It seems the most formidable individuals are those who pose as titans of industry, yet find themselves utterly scandalized by the mere suggestion of a free Sunday. I suppose one must give credit where it is due; if it weren't for your tireless contributions as the backbone of the workforce, the global economy might be at least fifty percent weaker as it is.

Nobody is actually offended by the idea of having a free Sunday.
I, for one, am offended by the notion of banning work on Sundays.

Matthew Young35 said:Me, sick?
I wouldn't call myself that. I'm not the one putting my faith in some bearded old man sitting on a cloud, watching everyone get off.

Well, some people definitely do.

Anthony Wright30 said:It seems the most formidable individuals are those who pose as titans of industry, yet find themselves utterly scandalized by the mere suggestion of a free Sunday. I suppose one must give credit where it is due; if it weren't for your tireless contributions as the backbone of the workforce, the global economy might be at least fifty percent weaker as it is.

Look, there's a huge difference between actual capitalism and the government constantly sticking its nose into every single corner of society, but I guess some people just can't wrap their heads around that distinction, right?

bluebison47 said:A worker's right includes daily, weekly, or annual time off... this whole spinning the concept of "rights" into "laziness" is just a massive, convoluted mess.

But I suppose you're just trolling for the sake of trolling at this point, so... whatever.

The right to rest? Absolutely. But why does it have to be Sunday?
Why shouldn't I be allowed to work on a Sunday if that's what I want to do?

Personal freedom will always trump government mandates when it comes to your own life, because if you’re actually struggling, then sure, go ahead and call up Washington to get them to step in 🤣

I mean, having the actual choice to decide whether or not you want to work on a Sunday is infinitely better than just having the state step in and ban Sunday shifts altogether.

restlesssurfer97 said:Personal freedom will always trump government mandates when it comes to your own life, because if you’re actually struggling, then sure, go ahead and call up Washington to get them to step in 🤣

I mean, having the actual choice to decide whether or not you want to work on a Sunday is infinitely better than just having the state step in and ban Sunday shifts altogether.

But seriously, what kind of "freedom of choice" are we actually talking about here?

restlesssurfer97 said:Did you start acting like this after the earthquake hit? 😂

🤣

wiredrider9 said:But seriously, what kind of "freedom of choice" are we actually talking about here?

Look, Matthew Young35, GQ, and I all want to get some work done on Sundays, and it feels like you guys are just trying to strip away that freedom from us.

As far as the coaching staff goes, they've been pretty much useless since day one.

Matthew Young35 said:The right to rest? Absolutely. But why does it have to be Sunday?
Why shouldn't I be allowed to work on a Sunday if that's what I want to do?

Well, let’s just take a second to actually think about this... you aren't some lone worker in the entire country, and people like you definitely don't make up the majority of the workforce.

A huge chunk of those workers have kids who aren't even free during the week—they're only off on the weekends because that's how the school systems operate (and let's be honest, most of them aren't strictly religious folks worrying about keeping Sunday "holy").

Retail stores aren't emergency services or essential industries that depend on Sunday shifts—you know, unlike restaurants, bars, or maybe sports journalists—so their schedule shouldn't be dictated by the day of the week. Whatever you feel like you "need" to buy on a Sunday, you could easily grab on a Saturday or a Monday; in 98% of cases, you won't face any actual catastrophe.

Matthew Young35 said:The right to rest? Absolutely. But why does it have to be Sunday?
Why shouldn't I be allowed to work on a Sunday if that's what I want to do?

Maybe it's because people have partners who don't work Sundays at all—so while they're off, they end up spending that time alone instead of with their significant other. Or maybe their partner works the opposite shift, so they barely see each other anyway. Even if they both have Sundays off, sometimes you can't even get one full day together with the whole family, etc., etc.

bluebison47 said:Well, let’s just take a second to actually think about this... you aren't some lone worker in the entire country, and people like you definitely don't make up the majority of the workforce.

A huge chunk of those workers have kids who aren't even free during the week—they're only off on the weekends because that's how the school systems operate (and let's be honest, most of them aren't strictly religious folks worrying about keeping Sunday "holy").

Retail stores aren't emergency services or essential industries that depend on Sunday shifts—you know, unlike restaurants, bars, or maybe sports journalists—so their schedule shouldn't be dictated by the day of the week. Whatever you feel like you "need" to buy on a Sunday, you could easily grab on a Saturday or a Monday; in 98% of cases, you won't face any actual catastrophe.

But what happens to the big shopping malls?

restlesssurfer97 said:Look, Matthew Young35, GQ, and I all want to get some work done on Sundays, and it feels like you guys are just trying to strip away that freedom from us.

So, are you working retail?