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Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

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goldenowl73 goldenowl73 Active Member
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#2041 ·
Justin Mendoza16 said:☕maybe the guy was expecting—coffee, bourbon, and flowers from cheering crowds🙂fans

honestly, they were expecting that exact same thing back in Kharkiv and Mariupol on February 24th, but they definitely didn't get a warm welcome there. It's a pattern you see with the Russians quite often; they act like nothing happened, trying to play it off as if it’s just business as usual, even after all the absolute devastation they've caused and those heavy threats they've been throwing around.
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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#2042 ·
Is this patriotism in action, protecting our beloved Z... or is it just pure alcoholism? Honestly, you’d have to ask Occam and his razor 🤔

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Melissa Rivera5 Melissa Rivera5 Regular
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#2043 ·
For the world, Russia, and the President. Honestly, those slogans kind of remind me of that one bushy-bearded guy 🙂
goldenowl73 goldenowl73 Active Member
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#2044 ·
Alaska is Ours! Check out this massive billboard they've got up in Krasnoyarsk, Russia.

Honestly, these people have completely lost their minds.

“Alaska is Ours!” Just look at what they're blasting in Krasnoyarsk. It’s like they’ve gone totally off the deep end. https://t.co/JoHCs5qZOO
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#2045 ·
Amy Rogers6 said:Do you actually think Russia just woke up one morning in 2022 and decided to invade Ukraine on a whim? Please. This war didn't just happen overnight—it was being cooked up for at least five years. They knew exactly what they were doing, and they absolutely expected the West to push back. Just look at how they've pivoted their entire geopolitical and economic strategy in response. That’s the reality right there.

Russia benefits from dragging this conflict out into the winter—the longer the war lasts, the better (well, not *too* long, because a multi-year grind would eventually wreck them too). Their play here is to snap the weakest link in the Western bloc—specifically the EU—as they see it as the fastest route toward a multipolar world, which is one of their main goals. The thing is, it looks like Russia has started playing the "controlled chaos" game just like the Anglo-Saxons. But history has proven a thousand times over that chaos is a fickle beast; you can never fully control it. Look at Hitler—the Allies basically had more luck than sense early on, which kept that chaos from blowing up in their own faces. And let’s be real: the Germans have historically been some of the biggest geopolitical idiots in civilization, which is clearly still true today. Honestly, that just adds a massive stroke of luck to the equation.

I mean, I could see it happening where China ends up buying into the stock market—and I'm not just talking about Russian assets here. That whole process is pretty much a foregone conclusion. The only thing that can actually stop them is the USA, and they’d have to do it through a direct war that they absolutely HAVE to win. And let's be real, that's no walk in the park.

When it comes to Germans—they’ve always been clueless, and honestly, they haven't changed. They have such massive complexes; sometimes I feel like they’re even worse than the Russians, whose unstoppable geopolitical screw-ups don't seem to slow them down one bit. They’re just fundamentally limited when it comes to global strategy.

So you're saying the German messed up? 😁 They didn't screw up; they were just dreaming of a massive Eurasian powerhouse—different from Russia, sure—where they’d call all the shots using their tech and industrial muscle, fueled by cheap Russian energy. Honestly, there’s no mistake here; it’s pure, cold calculation. And it’s nothing new, either. They choked twice during the war, and now they think they can just slide back in through the economic backdoor? Yeah, not gonna happen. Not when they're simultaneously trying to grab a leash on Europe and making another play for the Middle East at the same time.

I'll tell you exactly how this winter in Germany is going to look if this war drags into 2023. There are really only two ways this plays out: either Germany ends up on its knees begging for any solution they can find while their society starts radicalizing, or they pivot their remaining resources into the defense industry to gear up for a new Eastern Front. That’s it. There is no third option. Everything else they're yapping about is just empty rhetoric that's going to get swept away by pure energy logic.

Why do you think Germans are praying for this war to end ASAP? They’re honestly ready to let Russia just steamroll Ukrainians if it means getting their power back on full blast. They couldn't care less about what happens to Ukraine—as far as they're concerned, they can be wiped off the map if it means the energy keeps flowing.

The Anglos are just playing the long game with Ukraine—they just need them to hold out for another four or five years. Honestly, whether they actually win the war or not isn't even their main concern. The real goal? Bleed Russia dry. If they can exhaust them now, it opens up a clear path to target China later, who would be left completely isolated and way easier to take down.

Ukrainians only have their grit to rely on at this point. Honestly, I’m pulling for them and hope they pull through—though it’s gonna be a hell of a fight. That psycho leader just gave a speech for the G7 that basically screams he isn't stopping until he hits total occupation. But let's be real: he probably only has a year left. Russia doesn't have the economic stamina to keep grinding like this without destroying themselves in the process. And by "destroying themselves," I don't mean people or equipment—we all know that guy doesn't count human lives or hardware as actual losses.

Bottom line: at this rate—especially if the energy crisis keeps spiraling (which, let’s face it, is totally on the table)—the EU is going to tank and vanish from the geopolitical map entirely. And honestly? That's the least of our worries. I'm not even going to bring up those failed solutions or all the other agendas they forced through back in 2019...

That's just the cold, hard geopolitical reality. Everything else is either blind cheerleading (which I get) or just loud, obnoxious nonsense, and frankly, I'm sick of hearing it.☕

If Putin were actually the grandmaster strategist everyone claims he is, he wouldn't have messed with Crimea. He would have just slapped sanctions on Ukraine right after Viktor Yanukovych fled.

The people would have turned on the government during the first economic crisis, and then boom—they'd end up with another Russian puppet in Kyiv.

Bottom line: the guy isn't some genius.

He’s got a bunch of yes-men in his inner circle telling him Russia is still a superpower. He invaded Ukraine hoping to crush them in three days while assuming the West wouldn't do anything about it. That's the whole story.

We're talking about an army that ran out of fuel in the first few weeks, was eating food rations that expired back in 2015, didn't even have gear for night fighting, and so on...
dustyowl29 dustyowl29 Regular
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#2046 ·
So, that sign doesn't actually mean anything...
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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#2047 ·
Kazakhstan is pulling out of the CIS agreement

https://twitter.com/JekyllCapital/st...95792399269891

https://zonakz.net/2022/07/08/kazaxs...tnom-komitete/

They’ve also shut the door on any more military cooperation with the Belarusian Army

https://twitter.com/ukraine_osint/st...37137909960704

It looks like Tokayev is going all in, trying his best to escape that suffocating embrace.

The Kremlin is playing a dirty game.
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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#2048 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:

If Putin were actually the grandmaster strategist everyone claims he is, he wouldn't have messed with Crimea. He would have just slapped sanctions on Ukraine right after Viktor Yanukovych fled.

The people would have turned on the government during the first economic crisis, and then boom—they'd end up with another Russian puppet in Kyiv.

Bottom line: the guy isn't some genius.

He’s got a bunch of yes-men in his inner circle telling him Russia is still a superpower. He invaded Ukraine hoping to crush them in three days while assuming the West wouldn't do anything about it. That's the whole story.

We're talking about an army that ran out of fuel in the first few weeks, was eating food rations that expired back in 2015, didn't even have gear for night fighting, and so on...
If Putin were actually the grandmaster strategist everyone claims he is, he wouldn't have messed with Crimea. He would have just slapped sanctions on Ukraine right after Viktor Yanukovych fled.

The people would have turned on the government during the first economic crisis, and then boom—they'd end up with another Russian puppet in Kyiv.

Bottom line: the guy isn't some genius.

He’s got a bunch of yes-men in his inner circle telling him Russia is still a superpower. He invaded Ukraine hoping to crush them in three days while assuming the West wouldn't do anything about it. That's the whole story.

We're talking about an army that ran out of fuel in the first few weeks, was eating food rations that expired back in 2015, didn't even have gear for night fighting, and so on...
It is honestly mind-boggling how someone could screw up this spectacularly.

Look, Yanukovych came to power following the Orange Revolution, which essentially failed in its mission.

If he was going to send in the military, he should have recognized the "real" Ukraine—the one under the sitting president—which would have garnered much more support than this nonsense of trying to manufacture breakaway regions.
Instead, the fool decided that Ukrainians don't even exist, insisting everyone ought to be Russian.🤦

Even the Soviet Union didn't pull stunts this stupid.
Before they ever moved against Romania or Finland, they established autonomous Romanian/Moldavian or Finnish/Karelian republics within their own borders to serve as staging grounds for further expansion.
Once the wars were over, they simply took what they wanted.

Russia is the largest country on Earth.
I highly doubt they are short on land.
Yet, to sink to this level...🙂
driftingfox66 driftingfox66 Active Member
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#2049 ·
hollowdriver13 said:Kazakhstan is pulling out of the CIS agreement

https://twitter.com/JekyllCapital/st...95792399269891

https://zonakz.net/2022/07/08/kazaxs...tnom-komitete/

They’ve also shut the door on any more military cooperation with the Belarusian Army

https://twitter.com/ukraine_osint/st...37137909960704

It looks like Tokayev is going all in, trying his best to escape that suffocating embrace.

The Kremlin is playing a dirty game.

Straight into the fire.
Melissa Rivera5 Melissa Rivera5 Regular
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#2050 ·
driftingfox66 said:Straight into the fire.

Man... That’s a pretty heavy blow, both economically and morally, to Russia. I wonder if this marks the beginning of the end for the Commonwealth of Independent States? Maybe Kazakhstan actually prefers the West over a motherland like Russia that just starts "bombarding" things immediately...

In all seriousness, it's not nothing. When your partner is someone who enjoys attacking their own people and throwing around nuclear threats like some bratty kid, you gotta wonder if any of this even makes sense.
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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#2051 ·
driftingfox66 said:Straight into the fire.

Most likely, yeah, since they’re realistically the only ones who could actually step up and help KZu if things go south and the bear starts losing its mind.

Even though they're sending out friendly vibes toward the West, we can't forget that back in the early 2000s, KZ was actually looking into joining the European Union (since a chunk of their territory is technically in Europe, which qualifies them). Then, of course, Vladimir Putin "kindly" talked them out of those plans.
Amy Rogers6 Amy Rogers6 Active Member
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#2052 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:

If Putin were actually the grandmaster strategist everyone claims he is, he wouldn't have messed with Crimea. He would have just slapped sanctions on Ukraine right after Viktor Yanukovych fled.

The people would have turned on the government during the first economic crisis, and then boom—they'd end up with another Russian puppet in Kyiv.

Bottom line: the guy isn't some genius.

He’s got a bunch of yes-men in his inner circle telling him Russia is still a superpower. He invaded Ukraine hoping to crush them in three days while assuming the West wouldn't do anything about it. That's the whole story.

We're talking about an army that ran out of fuel in the first few weeks, was eating food rations that expired back in 2015, didn't even have gear for night fighting, and so on...
If Putin were actually the grandmaster strategist everyone claims he is, he wouldn't have messed with Crimea. He would have just slapped sanctions on Ukraine right after Viktor Yanukovych fled.

The people would have turned on the government during the first economic crisis, and then boom—they'd end up with another Russian puppet in Kyiv.

Bottom line: the guy isn't some genius.

He’s got a bunch of yes-men in his inner circle telling him Russia is still a superpower. He invaded Ukraine hoping to crush them in three days while assuming the West wouldn't do anything about it. That's the whole story.

We're talking about an army that ran out of fuel in the first few weeks, was eating food rations that expired back in 2015, didn't even have gear for night fighting, and so on...
What a freaking genius. Where did I even say that? Look, I’ve always said—and I still stand by it—that Russians are massive complex-driven types with an insane inferiority complex regarding the West. When I say they prepared, all I mean is they had a contingency plan for Western sanctions ready to go, and they actually pulled it off. If they hadn't, their economy would have imploded by now. That level of prep didn't just happen overnight when the invasion started.

Plus, those missiles are packed with Western tech—how exactly did they manage to pull that off if they wanted to be able to fire stuff like Iskanders? They knew damn well they’d be cut off from those components immediately, which means they must have stockpiled a massive supply back before February ended. And another thing—this whole attempt to build a payment system isn't some last-minute scramble. Why would they kick the entire process into gear if everything was running smoothly before the invasion?

The answer is dead simple—the Russians didn't just suddenly decide to invade back in February. That whole idea had been simmering in their heads for a long, long time.

For crying out loud, you only need basic common sense here, not a PhD in nuclear physics...

The way Russia fights is a whole different beast. They thought they could just pull off some Blitzkrieg move and sweep through Ukraine—kind of like how the US does things—but they don't have anywhere near the readiness or the coordination within their military branches to actually pull off massive operations like that. It’s not even a question: they got absolutely wrecked right out of the gate.

It’s honestly pointless to sit here debating what Russia could have pulled off back in 2014. They just don't have the chops to push through color revolutions when they're staring down the barrel of the West. Sure, the Soviet Union had that whole ideological framework thing working for them once, but that's ancient history.

I'm not even talking about all that—I’m talking about the facts that are sitting right there like an elephant in a glass house.

Russia’s been prepping this invasion for a long time. If they hadn't spent all that time getting ready, there's no way they could actually handle this much economic pressure.

The European Union is completely unprepared for this mess. Honestly, by pushing all these sanctions on Russia, they’re basically setting themselves up to fail. It doesn't even matter if the Russians win or the Ukrainians win—the EU is going to end up getting screwed regardless. And frankly, they barely deserve better when the entire Brussels bureaucracy is just a bunch of idiots clinging to their cushy, taxpayer-funded seats.


And that’s exactly the point—everyone’s just obsessing over whether Russia is going to crush them, if they're playing some insane game of 6D chess, if they'll eventually get shut down, or if Ukraine is actually going to pull off a win. It's all just noise.

Regarding that last bolded point—what’s actually new here? Honestly, the Russians have been playing this same blunt, "brute force" game throughout history. It’s always just mass moving against mass; they haven't figured out any other way to operate. They won't be ready for another 20 years, let alone be able to pivot and start following NATO standards overnight. If you want to look at where they *have* actually made progress, it’s their grip on the financial system, food production (aiming for total self-sufficiency), and energy control. All of that required serious groundwork, much of which involved strategic diplomatic maneuvering and securing energy guarantees long before the war even started.

What a total mess. It’s like I’m trying to write in Japanese or something—absolute nonsense. Screw this 6D chess bullshit, Vladimir Putin, and whoever thinks they have a better doctrine than everyone else...☕
Jacob Price95 Jacob Price95 Active Member
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#2053 ·
Amy Rogers6, from A to Z 👍
Bryan Booth82 Bryan Booth82 Regular
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#2054 ·
Amy Rogers6 said:If Putin were actually the grandmaster strategist everyone claims he is, he wouldn't have messed with Crimea. He would have just slapped sanctions on Ukraine right after Viktor Yanukovych fled.

The people would have turned on the government during the first economic crisis, and then boom—they'd end up with another Russian puppet in Kyiv.

Bottom line: the guy isn't some genius.

He’s got a bunch of yes-men in his inner circle telling him Russia is still a superpower. He invaded Ukraine hoping to crush them in three days while assuming the West wouldn't do anything about it. That's the whole story.

We're talking about an army that ran out of fuel in the first few weeks, was eating food rations that expired back in 2015, didn't even have gear for night fighting, and so on...

What a freaking genius. Where did I even say that? Look, I’ve always said—and I still stand by it—that Russians are massive complex-driven types with an insane inferiority complex regarding the West. When I say they prepared, all I mean is they had a contingency plan for Western sanctions ready to go, and they actually pulled it off. If they hadn't, their economy would have imploded by now. That level of prep didn't just happen overnight when the invasion started.

Plus, those missiles are packed with Western tech—how exactly did they manage to pull that off if they wanted to be able to fire stuff like Iskanders? They knew damn well they’d be cut off from those components immediately, which means they must have stockpiled a massive supply back before February ended. And another thing—this whole attempt to build a payment system isn't some last-minute scramble. Why would they kick the entire process into gear if everything was running smoothly before the invasion?

The answer is dead simple—the Russians didn't just suddenly decide to invade back in February. That whole idea had been simmering in their heads for a long, long time.

For crying out loud, you only need basic common sense here, not a PhD in nuclear physics...

The way Russia fights is a whole different beast. They thought they could just pull off some Blitzkrieg move and sweep through Ukraine—kind of like how the US does things—but they don't have anywhere near the readiness or the coordination within their military branches to actually pull off massive operations like that. It’s not even a question: they got absolutely wrecked right out of the gate.

It’s honestly pointless to sit here debating what Russia could have pulled off back in 2014. They just don't have the chops to push through color revolutions when they're staring down the barrel of the West. Sure, the Soviet Union had that whole ideological framework thing working for them once, but that's ancient history.

I'm not even talking about all that—I’m talking about the facts that are sitting right there like an elephant in a glass house.

Russia’s been prepping this invasion for a long time. If they hadn't spent all that time getting ready, there's no way they could actually handle this much economic pressure.

The European Union is completely unprepared for this mess. Honestly, by pushing all these sanctions on Russia, they’re basically setting themselves up to fail. It doesn't even matter if the Russians win or the Ukrainians win—the EU is going to end up getting screwed regardless. And frankly, they barely deserve better when the entire Brussels bureaucracy is just a bunch of idiots clinging to their cushy, taxpayer-funded seats.


And that’s exactly the point—everyone’s just obsessing over whether Russia is going to crush them, if they're playing some insane game of 6D chess, if they'll eventually get shut down, or if Ukraine is actually going to pull off a win. It's all just noise.

Regarding that last bolded point—what’s actually new here? Honestly, the Russians have been playing this same blunt, "brute force" game throughout history. It’s always just mass moving against mass; they haven't figured out any other way to operate. They won't be ready for another 20 years, let alone be able to pivot and start following NATO standards overnight. If you want to look at where they *have* actually made progress, it’s their grip on the financial system, food production (aiming for total self-sufficiency), and energy control. All of that required serious groundwork, much of which involved strategic diplomatic maneuvering and securing energy guarantees long before the war even started.

What a total mess. It’s like I’m trying to write in Japanese or something—absolute nonsense. Screw this 6D chess bullshit, Vladimir Putin, and whoever thinks they have a better doctrine than everyone else...☕
In short, the Russians have screwed themselves in the long run, because it looks like all the West needs is patience and persistence, and Putler doesn't stand a chance.
Best regards
Gregory Ramos3 Gregory Ramos3 Active Member
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#2055 ·
Amy Rogers6 said:If Putin were actually the grandmaster strategist everyone claims he is, he wouldn't have messed with Crimea. He would have just slapped sanctions on Ukraine right after Viktor Yanukovych fled.

The people would have turned on the government during the first economic crisis, and then boom—they'd end up with another Russian puppet in Kyiv.

Bottom line: the guy isn't some genius.

He’s got a bunch of yes-men in his inner circle telling him Russia is still a superpower. He invaded Ukraine hoping to crush them in three days while assuming the West wouldn't do anything about it. That's the whole story.

We're talking about an army that ran out of fuel in the first few weeks, was eating food rations that expired back in 2015, didn't even have gear for night fighting, and so on...

What a freaking genius. Where did I even say that? Look, I’ve always said—and I still stand by it—that Russians are massive complex-driven types with an insane inferiority complex regarding the West. When I say they prepared, all I mean is they had a contingency plan for Western sanctions ready to go, and they actually pulled it off. If they hadn't, their economy would have imploded by now. That level of prep didn't just happen overnight when the invasion started.

Plus, those missiles are packed with Western tech—how exactly did they manage to pull that off if they wanted to be able to fire stuff like Iskanders? They knew damn well they’d be cut off from those components immediately, which means they must have stockpiled a massive supply back before February ended. And another thing—this whole attempt to build a payment system isn't some last-minute scramble. Why would they kick the entire process into gear if everything was running smoothly before the invasion?

The answer is dead simple—the Russians didn't just suddenly decide to invade back in February. That whole idea had been simmering in their heads for a long, long time.

For crying out loud, you only need basic common sense here, not a PhD in nuclear physics...

The way Russia fights is a whole different beast. They thought they could just pull off some Blitzkrieg move and sweep through Ukraine—kind of like how the US does things—but they don't have anywhere near the readiness or the coordination within their military branches to actually pull off massive operations like that. It’s not even a question: they got absolutely wrecked right out of the gate.

It’s honestly pointless to sit here debating what Russia could have pulled off back in 2014. They just don't have the chops to push through color revolutions when they're staring down the barrel of the West. Sure, the Soviet Union had that whole ideological framework thing working for them once, but that's ancient history.

I'm not even talking about all that—I’m talking about the facts that are sitting right there like an elephant in a glass house.

Russia’s been prepping this invasion for a long time. If they hadn't spent all that time getting ready, there's no way they could actually handle this much economic pressure.

The European Union is completely unprepared for this mess. Honestly, by pushing all these sanctions on Russia, they’re basically setting themselves up to fail. It doesn't even matter if the Russians win or the Ukrainians win—the EU is going to end up getting screwed regardless. And frankly, they barely deserve better when the entire Brussels bureaucracy is just a bunch of idiots clinging to their cushy, taxpayer-funded seats.


And that’s exactly the point—everyone’s just obsessing over whether Russia is going to crush them, if they're playing some insane game of 6D chess, if they'll eventually get shut down, or if Ukraine is actually going to pull off a win. It's all just noise.

Regarding that last bolded point—what’s actually new here? Honestly, the Russians have been playing this same blunt, "brute force" game throughout history. It’s always just mass moving against mass; they haven't figured out any other way to operate. They won't be ready for another 20 years, let alone be able to pivot and start following NATO standards overnight. If you want to look at where they *have* actually made progress, it’s their grip on the financial system, food production (aiming for total self-sufficiency), and energy control. All of that required serious groundwork, much of which involved strategic diplomatic maneuvering and securing energy guarantees long before the war even started.

What a total mess. It’s like I’m trying to write in Japanese or something—absolute nonsense. Screw this 6D chess bullshit, Vladimir Putin, and whoever thinks they have a better doctrine than everyone else...☕
Prika,

I totally see where you're coming from, but...

1. No matter how much they prepped, they clearly didn't account for how hard the West and the Ukrainians would actually push back. I mean, if they were seriously ready for this kind of reaction, they wouldn't have spent every single day screaming about sanctions, nuclear threats, and shifting objectives.

2. Even though the EU is totally unprepared, I still think they have enough financial muscle to eventually come out of this looking a lot better than Russia does. Like someone once said, getting off Heroin is a brutal process, but it's doable. 🙂
Thomas Nelson25 Thomas Nelson25 Regular
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joined Jan 2021
#2056 ·
Word on the street lately is that Putin's hordes are taking quite a beating... mostly from long-range strikes.
Like it even matters to us—not even a blip on the radar.
Jacob Kern2 Jacob Kern2 Active Member
100 messages
joined Jun 2024
#2057 ·
I would sign off on Hilderik’s proposal, provided there was a single 🙂

The real question we have to grapple with is whether the Russians are actually managing to bypass these sanctions effectively, or if we are mostly just dealing with highly polished propaganda. Even if they are successfully circumventing them, one has to wonder how much longer that can realistically be sustained before the pressure becomes too great.

Europe is headed for a disaster; there is simply no other way to look at it. It will be quite telling this coming autumn to see whether any semblance of European unity remains, or if more nations decide to follow the path set by Canada.
Christian Torres3 Christian Torres3 Regular
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#2058 ·
Amy Rogers6 said:If Putin were actually the grandmaster strategist everyone claims he is, he wouldn't have messed with Crimea. He would have just slapped sanctions on Ukraine right after Viktor Yanukovych fled.

The people would have turned on the government during the first economic crisis, and then boom—they'd end up with another Russian puppet in Kyiv.

Bottom line: the guy isn't some genius.

He’s got a bunch of yes-men in his inner circle telling him Russia is still a superpower. He invaded Ukraine hoping to crush them in three days while assuming the West wouldn't do anything about it. That's the whole story.

We're talking about an army that ran out of fuel in the first few weeks, was eating food rations that expired back in 2015, didn't even have gear for night fighting, and so on...

What a freaking genius. Where did I even say that? Look, I’ve always said—and I still stand by it—that Russians are massive complex-driven types with an insane inferiority complex regarding the West. When I say they prepared, all I mean is they had a contingency plan for Western sanctions ready to go, and they actually pulled it off. If they hadn't, their economy would have imploded by now. That level of prep didn't just happen overnight when the invasion started.

Plus, those missiles are packed with Western tech—how exactly did they manage to pull that off if they wanted to be able to fire stuff like Iskanders? They knew damn well they’d be cut off from those components immediately, which means they must have stockpiled a massive supply back before February ended. And another thing—this whole attempt to build a payment system isn't some last-minute scramble. Why would they kick the entire process into gear if everything was running smoothly before the invasion?

The answer is dead simple—the Russians didn't just suddenly decide to invade back in February. That whole idea had been simmering in their heads for a long, long time.

For crying out loud, you only need basic common sense here, not a PhD in nuclear physics...

The way Russia fights is a whole different beast. They thought they could just pull off some Blitzkrieg move and sweep through Ukraine—kind of like how the US does things—but they don't have anywhere near the readiness or the coordination within their military branches to actually pull off massive operations like that. It’s not even a question: they got absolutely wrecked right out of the gate.

It’s honestly pointless to sit here debating what Russia could have pulled off back in 2014. They just don't have the chops to push through color revolutions when they're staring down the barrel of the West. Sure, the Soviet Union had that whole ideological framework thing working for them once, but that's ancient history.

I'm not even talking about all that—I’m talking about the facts that are sitting right there like an elephant in a glass house.

Russia’s been prepping this invasion for a long time. If they hadn't spent all that time getting ready, there's no way they could actually handle this much economic pressure.

The European Union is completely unprepared for this mess. Honestly, by pushing all these sanctions on Russia, they’re basically setting themselves up to fail. It doesn't even matter if the Russians win or the Ukrainians win—the EU is going to end up getting screwed regardless. And frankly, they barely deserve better when the entire Brussels bureaucracy is just a bunch of idiots clinging to their cushy, taxpayer-funded seats.


And that’s exactly the point—everyone’s just obsessing over whether Russia is going to crush them, if they're playing some insane game of 6D chess, if they'll eventually get shut down, or if Ukraine is actually going to pull off a win. It's all just noise.

Regarding that last bolded point—what’s actually new here? Honestly, the Russians have been playing this same blunt, "brute force" game throughout history. It’s always just mass moving against mass; they haven't figured out any other way to operate. They won't be ready for another 20 years, let alone be able to pivot and start following NATO standards overnight. If you want to look at where they *have* actually made progress, it’s their grip on the financial system, food production (aiming for total self-sufficiency), and energy control. All of that required serious groundwork, much of which involved strategic diplomatic maneuvering and securing energy guarantees long before the war even started.

What a total mess. It’s like I’m trying to write in Japanese or something—absolute nonsense. Screw this 6D chess bullshit, Vladimir Putin, and whoever thinks they have a better doctrine than everyone else...☕
You literally have no clue what garbage you're spewing. Russia basically has zero allies in this war—even Belarus could walk away right now if they wanted to—and besides Germany, which needs to kick its Heroin addiction, the entire West is against Russia. That whole web of influence Putin built? Totally wiped out. And don't worry, America will survive just fine.
Christian Torres3 Christian Torres3 Regular
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#2059 ·
Jacob Kern2 said:I would sign off on Hilderik’s proposal, provided there was a single 🙂

The real question we have to grapple with is whether the Russians are actually managing to bypass these sanctions effectively, or if we are mostly just dealing with highly polished propaganda. Even if they are successfully circumventing them, one has to wonder how much longer that can realistically be sustained before the pressure becomes too great.

Europe is headed for a disaster; there is simply no other way to look at it. It will be quite telling this coming autumn to see whether any semblance of European unity remains, or if more nations decide to follow the path set by Canada.

Economics is pretty straightforward stuff—it's obvious Russia can't keep up this kind of defense for the ruble in the long run.
Europe is going to get screwed. There’s zero debate there. It’ll be interesting to see this fall come what may—whether anything is left of European unity or if more countries start following Canada's lead.

Just a rhetorical question here: is a single nation stronger, or a union of states?
rowdytiger13 rowdytiger13 Regular
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joined Oct 2018
#2060 ·
hollowdriver13 said:Kazakhstan is pulling out of the CIS agreement

https://twitter.com/JekyllCapital/st...95792399269891

https://zonakz.net/2022/07/08/kazaxs...tnom-komitete/

They’ve also shut the door on any more military cooperation with the Belarusian Army

https://twitter.com/ukraine_osint/st...37137909960704

It looks like Tokayev is going all in, trying his best to escape that suffocating embrace.

The Kremlin is playing a dirty game.

If everything being said is true, Putin can't even give Tokayev a dirty look.
He absolutely cannot afford to upset China.

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