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Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

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Nancy Gomez26 Nancy Gomez26 Regular
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#3541 ·
Jessica Peterson2 said:It seems like alcoholism is becoming a massive headache for high-ranking Russian officials. Just last night, the "Acting President"—or should I say, the "little guy"?—decided to take to Facebook to announce the restoration of the USSR. This all comes immediately following the annexation of Small Russia into Great Russia, along with the forced incorporation of the Union of Georgia (which he claims "never existed") and the "artistic invention" known as Kazakhstan.

Once he supposedly sobered up, the post was scrubbed from the timeline, leaving everyone to blame some vague group of ammonium "hackers."

Are we talking about 'Dimon in new sneakers'?
Nancy Gomez26 Nancy Gomez26 Regular
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#3542 ·
Andrew Booth29 said:It's just like that one Russian official put it: they're guilty, and the court is simply there to decide what the specific charge should be.

Even Beria used to say: 'Just show me the man, and I'll find the crime.'
darkcyclist92 darkcyclist92 Active Member
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#3543 ·
Does anyone happen to know where Pelosi is? 😲

P.S. I realize this is off-topic, but it looks like we have a major situation brewing: China is deploying intercontinental missiles. As far as I can tell, nobody moves assets like that without having very clear intentions.
Andrew Booth29 Andrew Booth29 Regular
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#3544 ·
darkcyclist92 said:Does anyone happen to know where Pelosi is? 😲

P.S. I realize this is off-topic, but it looks like we have a major situation brewing: China is deploying intercontinental missiles. As far as I can tell, nobody moves assets like that without having very clear intentions.

Except they aren't heading for Taiwan. The Chinese are in such a hysterical frenzy right now that they’re actually using tanks to clear their own citizens off the beaches... honestly, if that's what passes for "normal" over there, God help us.
Andrew Booth29 Andrew Booth29 Regular
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#3545 ·
Nancy Gomez26 said:Even Beria used to say: 'Just show me the man, and I'll find the crime.'

Honestly, this is just an old tradition playing out. After the revolution, you had judges who, by sheer inertia, actually stuck to the law—which meant they occasionally let innocent people walk free. But then the Party stepped in and gave those judges a bit of "guidance": don't bother looking at whether the person is actually guilty; just look at which class they belong to.🧐

It made the whole judicial system much more efficient, I suppose. And frankly, looking at things today, it seems like we're operating on those exact same principles.
Nancy Gomez26 Nancy Gomez26 Regular
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#3546 ·
Andrew Booth29 said:Honestly, this is just an old tradition playing out. After the revolution, you had judges who, by sheer inertia, actually stuck to the law—which meant they occasionally let innocent people walk free. But then the Party stepped in and gave those judges a bit of "guidance": don't bother looking at whether the person is actually guilty; just look at which class they belong to.🧐

It made the whole judicial system much more efficient, I suppose. And frankly, looking at things today, it seems like we're operating on those exact same principles.

I once watched an excellent documentary about the Stalin era. It featured archival documents that made things crystal clear: Moscow would demand a specific quota of "enemies of the people" from regional and city committees. They had to find a precise number within a set timeframe, specifically allocated to certain districts. And of course, they met those quotas. If they failed to show "productivity" in hunting down enemies, they were the ones who ended up facing the consequences.
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 Regular
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#3547 ·
Russians have uncovered some warm water:

Russia announced today that the United States—the world’s preeminent military superpower—is directly embroiled in the conflict in Ukraine because American intelligence assets have been greenlighting and coordinating Ukrainian missile strikes against Russian forces.

The Russian invasion of Ukraine has triggered the most intense standoff between Russia and the West since the Cuban Missile Crisis back in '62, a time when everyone was genuinely terrified we were staring down the barrel of nuclear war.

The Russian Ministry of Defense, led by those close allies of Vladimir Putin, released a statement claiming that Vaditi Skibicki, a deputy head within the Ukrainian military intelligence apparatus, admitted to the Telegraph that Washington is indeed coordinating these HIMARS missile strikes.

"This is undeniable proof"
"All of this provides irrefutable evidence that Washington, contrary to the official lines coming out of the White House and the Pentagon, is directly involved in the fighting in Ukraine," the Ministry of Defense stated.
driftingtinker driftingtinker Regular
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joined Jan 2019
#3548 ·
darkcyclist92 said:Does anyone happen to know where Pelosi is? 😲

P.S. I realize this is off-topic, but it looks like we have a major situation brewing: China is deploying intercontinental missiles. As far as I can tell, nobody moves assets like that without having very clear intentions.

US-China conflict in the Indo-Pacific?
Sean Ruiz33 Sean Ruiz33 Member
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#3549 ·
Benjamin Taylor6 said:Russians have uncovered some warm water:

Russia announced today that the United States—the world’s preeminent military superpower—is directly embroiled in the conflict in Ukraine because American intelligence assets have been greenlighting and coordinating Ukrainian missile strikes against Russian forces.

The Russian invasion of Ukraine has triggered the most intense standoff between Russia and the West since the Cuban Missile Crisis back in '62, a time when everyone was genuinely terrified we were staring down the barrel of nuclear war.

The Russian Ministry of Defense, led by those close allies of Vladimir Putin, released a statement claiming that Vaditi Skibicki, a deputy head within the Ukrainian military intelligence apparatus, admitted to the Telegraph that Washington is indeed coordinating these HIMARS missile strikes.

"This is undeniable proof"
"All of this provides irrefutable evidence that Washington, contrary to the official lines coming out of the White House and the Pentagon, is directly involved in the fighting in Ukraine," the Ministry of Defense stated.

Right...as if the Russians don't have their own fifth columnists and spies operating throughout Ukraine, or those Syrian mercenaries they deploy. That counts for nothing, apparently.
darkwolf20 darkwolf20 Member
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#3550 ·
Benjamin Taylor6 said:Russians have uncovered some warm water:

Russia announced today that the United States—the world’s preeminent military superpower—is directly embroiled in the conflict in Ukraine because American intelligence assets have been greenlighting and coordinating Ukrainian missile strikes against Russian forces.

The Russian invasion of Ukraine has triggered the most intense standoff between Russia and the West since the Cuban Missile Crisis back in '62, a time when everyone was genuinely terrified we were staring down the barrel of nuclear war.

The Russian Ministry of Defense, led by those close allies of Vladimir Putin, released a statement claiming that Vaditi Skibicki, a deputy head within the Ukrainian military intelligence apparatus, admitted to the Telegraph that Washington is indeed coordinating these HIMARS missile strikes.

"This is undeniable proof"
"All of this provides irrefutable evidence that Washington, contrary to the official lines coming out of the White House and the Pentagon, is directly involved in the fighting in Ukraine," the Ministry of Defense stated.

Americans would steamroll them like a shallow creek. It would look less like a battle and more like a routine military exercise; a single squadron of F-35 fighters would be more than enough to flatten those pathetic little parades.
What I find most absurd is the sheer delusion of those attempting to draw any comparison between them and the Americans. 😵
Nathan Thomas12 Nathan Thomas12 Regular
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#3551 ·
Benjamin Taylor6 said:Russians have uncovered some warm water:

Russia announced today that the United States—the world’s preeminent military superpower—is directly embroiled in the conflict in Ukraine because American intelligence assets have been greenlighting and coordinating Ukrainian missile strikes against Russian forces.

The Russian invasion of Ukraine has triggered the most intense standoff between Russia and the West since the Cuban Missile Crisis back in '62, a time when everyone was genuinely terrified we were staring down the barrel of nuclear war.

The Russian Ministry of Defense, led by those close allies of Vladimir Putin, released a statement claiming that Vaditi Skibicki, a deputy head within the Ukrainian military intelligence apparatus, admitted to the Telegraph that Washington is indeed coordinating these HIMARS missile strikes.

"This is undeniable proof"
"All of this provides irrefutable evidence that Washington, contrary to the official lines coming out of the White House and the Pentagon, is directly involved in the fighting in Ukraine," the Ministry of Defense stated.

Even a casual observer can see this is just a proxy war—and it looks like the Americans got caught red-handed.
The real question is how they didn't see this coming, and honestly? They deserve the headache.
Matthew Young35 Matthew Young35 Veteran
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#3552 ·
What kind of "proxy war" are we even talking about here?
Russia attacked a sovereign nation simply because they chose to align with the West instead of them.

It’s like someone beating up their partner just because she decided to go out with someone else.
Nathan Thomas12 Nathan Thomas12 Regular
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joined Apr 2022
#3553 ·
Matthew Young35 said:What kind of "proxy war" are we even talking about here?
Russia attacked a sovereign nation simply because they chose to align with the West instead of them.

It’s like someone beating up their partner just because she decided to go out with someone else.

Sure, the labels fit, but at its core, it’s a proxy war. You beat me up, and someone else steps in to help me fight back...
Kate Cook27 Kate Cook27 Regular
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#3554 ·
In the meantime:
Over on the pro-Russ channels, people are celebrating because they think America is finally ditching Ukraine—which they view as some sort of neo-fascist construct—to focus on Taiwan and Japanese imperialism instead. 😁.

Meanwhile:
After dealing with "ukro-nazis," witchcraft, and finding voodoo dolls everywhere, it looks like the fight against atheists is next on the agenda. Now, every Ukrainian militant is being branded an atheist, and apparently, it’s become a duty for every true believer to fight against this perceived evil—this "Ukrainian satanism." Honestly, it goes without saying that every one of these militants deserves the most painful end possible here, followed by even harsher divine wrath in the afterlife.
analogbear5 analogbear5 Regular
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#3555 ·
dustyowl29 said:Well, there’s still a pipeline route through Mexico...

That would be South Stream—which was never actually finished, so it doesn't exist. It was abandoned back in 2014.
Kate Cook27 Kate Cook27 Regular
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#3556 ·
Forty-seven kids who were deported to Russia have finally been brought back home. We're still searching for thousands more.
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 Regular
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joined Apr 2017
#3557 ·
Matthew Young35 said:What kind of "proxy war" are we even talking about here?
Russia attacked a sovereign nation simply because they chose to align with the West instead of them.

It’s like someone beating up their partner just because she decided to go out with someone else.

proxy war:

https://www.nytimes.com/news/...example-link
Roger Campbell3 Roger Campbell3 Member
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#3558 ·
analogbear5 said:That would be South Stream—which was never actually finished, so it doesn't exist. It was abandoned back in 2014.

Exactly.
Let's look at the pattern: the Germans pressured Mexico to get their approval—which they obviously didn't give—just so they could clear the path to negotiate Nord Stream 2 later on.
Gregory Ramos3 Gregory Ramos3 Active Member
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joined Feb 2022
#3559 ·
People calling this a proxy war are basically saying the United States tricked Ukraine into taking on Russia.

Either that, or they honestly think the Ukrainians would have just thrown in the towel if it weren't for the Americans egging them on to fight, which makes the whole idea of a proxy 🤦
war seem pretty silly to me.
George Cooper2 George Cooper2 Member
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joined Jul 2014
#3560 ·
analogbear5 said:That would be South Stream—which was never actually finished, so it doesn't exist. It was abandoned back in 2014.

Actually, this is TurkStream. It was essentially created as a direct response to the collapse of South Stream. It was completed, and it's being used extensively right now.

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