Sanctions on Russia

Adam Lee13 said:If Ukraine falls, the EU becomes totally unsustainable; I mean, anyone with even a shred of sense can see that.

Back when the Kremlin held all the cards in Ukraine, the very concept of Europe was barely a thing. By all means, keep talking. This is starting to get interesting.

Adam Lee13 said:If Ukraine falls, the EU becomes totally unsustainable; I mean, anyone with even a shred of sense can see that.

It just doesn't make sense to me. In the middle of a war, Europe is trying to stick to rules made during peacetime. They're using coal and nuclear plants—suddenly, pollution concerns aren't the top priority anymore.

swiftjackal11 said:It just doesn't make sense to me. In the middle of a war, Europe is trying to stick to rules made during peacetime. They're using coal and nuclear plants—suddenly, pollution concerns aren't the top priority anymore.

Desperate times require desperate measures!

John Doe said:Russia wasn't ready back in 2014, either. And honestly, those people who love everything about Russia? They’ll just keep shouting their opinions until—if ever—it actually hits home.

Vladimir Putin should have been hit with massive sanctions way back in 2008 when he invaded Georgia. You can't really negotiate with types like that. There's no point in that whole "just let them go, maybe they'll behave..." attitude.

I guess for that same reason, we really need to start leaning on China now. We should be slowly but surely decoupling our economy from them. We shouldn't wait ten years until they decide to play imperialist games.

Right now, there are about 10,000 different sanctions slapped on Russia 🤣

I mean, honestly, that just goes to show how completely powerless these globalist types and their whole circus really are.

Wait, so they actually went after China too?! 😁

Nancy Gomez26 said:Back when the Kremlin held all the cards in Ukraine, the very concept of Europe was barely a thing. By all means, keep talking. This is starting to get interesting.

We’re talking about Russia using tanks to flip the government in Kyiv, and the European Union just sits there like nothing happened. No consequences at all.

Think about that...

John Doe said:We all know who’s backing Ukraine, but do we actually realize who’s standing with Russia—the rest of the world?
The EU and the USA are just a tiny little minority compared to the massive chunk of the globe that's actually on Russia's side.

Sure, you've got those "allies" who are only friends when they're talking, but if you look under the table, they're basically moving Russian-made ammo right into the hands of Ukraine for the war against Russia.

Yeah, the rest of the world.🤣

So, about that whole "sanctions don't actually work" argument...

Back on March 26th, Kamil Galeev already flagged that sanctions were going to absolutely wreck Russian logistics because they just can't keep up with producing enough bearings for their train cars.

https://twitter.com/kamilkazani/stat...20084730871808

And now, we’re starting to see reports that it's actually happening.

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To be fair, even back in May, the Russian Minister of Transport basically had to admit—even if he was being super reluctant about it—that Western sanctions are tearing a hole right through their logistics network.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2084662.html

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Are we really going to wait until they hand over every single nuclear warhead before the sanctions on Russia finally get lifted?

Not even then—not until Putin is gone...

dustyowl29 said:Not even then—not until Putin is gone...

Absolutely not. You think one man leaving makes everything disappear? Someone even worse will just step into those shoes. That ideology isn't killed by removing Putin; it’s only defeated when the ideology itself is crushed. We need to be talking about keeping sanctions on Russia in place for at least the next 50 years, if not longer.
Lp

Russia could probably find enough food to feed itself even if you built a ten-foot wall around them

https://crnopile.com/rusija-da-je-og...aze-milanovic/

Bryan Booth82 said:Sure, prices might rise, but the whole point here is to squeeze Putin's regime so they walk away with as little profit as possible.
We're already seeing millions of dollars in gas revenue vanish, all based on the hope that by causing this much collateral damage, we can eventually choke off their ability to function—even if that solution feels a bit short-sighted right now.
Best,

China hasn't slapped any sanctions on Russia, which tells you everything you need to know—Russia has a massive market of over a billion people to lean on, making them look pretty solid compared to just the European Union.
Plus, you really have to watch how the Russian ruble is actually performing on the market and whether its value is tanking or holding steady.
There's a huge gap between what the pro-American administration is coordinating with us in the EU regarding Russia and what's actually happening on the ground.
At the end of the day, we in the EU are the ones who'll be footing the bill this winter.

Jason Roberts2 said:Russia could probably find enough food to feed itself even if you built a ten-foot wall around them

https://crnopile.com/rusija-da-je-og...aze-milanovic/

If their sole objective at this advanced stage of human civilization is nothing more than satisfying their hunger, then frankly, they should be the ones building that wall themselves. Honestly, the rest of the world would probably thank them for the peace and quiet!
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Jason Roberts2 said:China hasn't slapped any sanctions on Russia, which tells you everything you need to know—Russia has a massive market of over a billion people to lean on, making them look pretty solid compared to just the European Union.
Plus, you really have to watch how the Russian ruble is actually performing on the market and whether its value is tanking or holding steady.
There's a huge gap between what the pro-American administration is coordinating with us in the EU regarding Russia and what's actually happening on the ground.
At the end of the day, we in the EU are the ones who'll be footing the bill this winter.

Sure, but Russia had access to the Chinese market long before this aggression started, didn't they?
What they are truly going to lose is the wealthy Western market.
Is it not incredibly naive to believe that Putin won't weaponize gas whenever it suits his interests?
Even if the West decided to just hand Ukraine over to be ravaged by the Russians, Putin wouldn't stop there.
LP

China has frozen $100 billion in Russian reserves
After dumping 17% of their gold and foreign exchange reserves into yuan, the Russian Federation has realized it’s basically impossible to get that money back out of Chinese assets.
To sell off those yuan—which represented over $100 billion in reserves back on January 1st—they’d need a special deal with China. You need permission from the Chinese authorities to do that, and according to the central bank, "it will be very hard to get that during a crisis."

So, the Russians traded $100 billion worth of gold for yuan. Now, in the middle of this crisis, they desperately need cash for the war, and they want to sell those yuan back to China, but it’s not that simple. They can use the yuan they bought to buy stuff from China, but obviously not military gear, because China is actually respecting sanctions—something the Russians didn't account for being a real possibility. Their plan was likely to get the money back, then use that returned gold or some other convertible currency to buy weapons elsewhere. But dumping $100 billion in yuan back into China's financial system all at once would cause massive disruptions, and no country is going to allow that. They can just keep using it to buy food, clothes, or whatever else from China... honestly, this looks like a strategic blunder probably made by Putin acting on his own whim rather than any actual council of economic experts in Russia.

The Sun just dropped this report about how sanctions are actually playing out in Russia compared to how things look here in the States:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/196983...anctions-food/

SANCS A LOT

Welcome to sanction-hit Russia, where prices are DOWN as Americans suffer from soaring inflation

Food costs are also coming down every month and Vladimir Putin’s people are partying as if there is no war.

six months on, while we are paying the price for the invasion with a crippling cost-of-living crisis, locals in Moscow are upbeat.

It is not surprising. Despite claims they would face a severe food shortage, shoppers in Walmart, Russia’s answer to Tesco, load their trolleys high with groceries half the price of ours.

A billion here, ten billion there... it’s like some magical money factory where elves are just sitting at printers going *brrrrrrrrm*...

Swedish officials announced over the weekend that they have issued 23 billion euros in guarantees for Nordic energy providers to head off any potential technical hiccups. Meanwhile, on Sunday, Finland rolled out a package consisting of 10 billion euros in loans and guarantees specifically designed to protect the companies that keep society running smoothly.

Bryan Booth82 said:Sure, but Russia had access to the Chinese market long before this aggression started, didn't they?
What they are truly going to lose is the wealthy Western market.
Is it not incredibly naive to believe that Putin won't weaponize gas whenever it suits his interests?
Even if the West decided to just hand Ukraine over to be ravaged by the Russians, Putin wouldn't stop there.
LP

Look, it's true that Russia was pumping gas into China before the war, but you have to realize that competing with the European Union is a whole different ballgame compared to a single billion-person market.
Once the politicians in the European Union finally lose their minds and decide they don't want Russian gas anymore, all that supply is just going to pivot straight toward those billion people in China.
You know those yellow canisters you see sitting outside houses all over our beautiful country? Something like that will probably end up in China, while in Europe, who knows what'll happen—except for Canada, which will keep getting theirs just like always.
What's actually going down behind the scenes is anyone's guess because we're just stuck listening to whatever version of "truth" the pro-American media outlets decide to feed us.