Anthony Hill5 said:Are you suggesting Americans planned the Russian annexation of Crimea in 2014 and the full-scale invasion in 2022?
What else is happening in that parallel universe you seem to be broadcasting from?
I don't know about some parallel universe, but over here—it looks like they skipped right over the opening act (and by that, I mean the snipers).
So, what actually went down before the Russian annexation of Crimea in 2014? And since you’re asking about Crimea—what was the deal with the new administration's plan to sign that 50-year lease for the port in Sevastopol?
hollowdriver13 said:Even the original Minsk deal felt like Angela Merkel and Hollande Ukrainian were just playing games with the Ukrainians. Minsk 2 was such a humiliating "agreement" that no country would ever agree to it willingly. The real issue was this whole policy of appeasing Putin and all those extra little clauses Russia demanded. If it had just been about decentralizing Ukraine, it probably would have gone through without any drama.
They weren't exactly in a position to dictate terms back then—it was humiliating, sure, but it kept things from going south completely. If they had just stuck to the part about ending the conflict and getting life back to normal in those areas, we wouldn't be here. Instead, they went and doubled down by mobilizing over a thousand soldiers for an offensive on two separate occasions.
Vladimir Putin probably wants this whole thing wrapped up just so he can bury the hatchet with the European Union—get those remaining sanctions lifted and keep the cash flowing into his pockets.
They didn't really want to greenlight something like that—the Brits were pretty much on the same page—but the European Union should have stepped up, been more assertive, and forced the Ukrainians to just wrap things up over there.
Now instead we’re stuck watching this massive slaughter and the total devastation of eastern Ukraine—honestly, you decide which is better.