Hannah Davis18 said:there’s really no need to smile at me.
I don't know the exact percentages; but you didn't ask.
Yeah, you're right, I see you've realized it isn't even important... 🙂 (sorry about those emojis)
What I was actually trying to point out is the simple fact that nowadays we can't be entirely sure what we're actually putting into our bodies; sure, we have choices—eating fish versus pork, grabbing fast food or a salad twice, white bread or whole grain—we can make plenty of decisions ourselves, but no matter how hard we try, there's no way for us to know exactly how much of everything is in our food to meet our daily requirements for vitamins, minerals, fiber, and so on... it's become an entire field of science involving years upon years of research, and if everyone here puts their faith in doctors and pharmaceuticals, I personally prefer nutritionists and their products... though ultimately, what swayed me were the actual results I've seen firsthand in people over the last year and a half. 🙂
"mistybear4, could you tell us what your educational background is, please?"
After I finished medical school, I basically packed up my tools and moved into construction....... 😁 😁 😁 Joking aside, my degree is in civil engineering, but that doesn't have anything to do with what I'm doing now.. 🙂
"Now, why don't you read those values off the label of your turbo-super-mega supplement for us? Do you honestly think none of us have dealt with snake oil salesmen before?"
Despite having high degrees and being a highly educated person, I see you haven't quite grasped the point of the question I was asking Hannah Davis18 (who, credit where it's due, understood perfectly), and all your credentials don't impress me enough to change how I perceive you, regardless of you bringing them up.. 🙂 I truly respect anyone who thinks for themselves, and in this day and age, all you really need to learn something is a bit of goodwill, an open mind (and heart), a genuine hunger for knowledge rather than just titles, a little logic, and a low ego... which you seem to be working on... 🙂 I'm not sure who here is selling smoke—the person dealing in facts, or the one peddling "opinions"? 🙂
It’s all relative, really. I have friends who thought they were eating "perfectly," yet they struggled with iron deficiencies or random allergies, and once they finally switched to cellular nutrition, those issues just vanished... it's just a fact. Tell me, do you actually have oversight over your food from the very beginning—from production and shipping right down to when it hits your plate? If you don't, then you realize how hard it is to be certain about what we're consuming or even how much of a specific nutrient is actually inside it, you know? That's the real issue here. 🙂
"You're talking to someone with a degree in Food Biotechnology and a PhD in Biology. I don't fall for marketing gimmicks. Besides, I'm a woman."
My apologies for the gender assumption, 😁. Honestly, degrees don't impress me—not even my own. If you'd like, I can introduce you to plenty of highly educated people with PhDs who thought they knew everything until they discovered cellular nutrition and had to change their minds after facing the actual facts. 🙂 This isn't about marketing, but if there's something seeing constant growth based solely on word-of-mouth and results, that says enough about the marketing side of things, wouldn't you agree?
Betty Rivera14, if someone witnesses something that truly works and helps people, then I am a "witness" too. But I'm not interested in mere opinions without substance; I care about the truth and arguments that can be verified and scientifically explained. Those explanations should come from the people who have lived through the results and proven them in practice, not from those who haven't. 🙂 😁
"Alright, Mac, you're already tearing him apart..."
I’m not a huge fan of being told I'm "tearing someone apart," though I suppose there might be some truth to it 😁 . .. 😠
"Psoriasis is a genetically conditioned disease"
Sure, genetic predispositions exist, but they aren't an absolute rule for developing the condition; chronic issues tend to surface due to a specific chain of events: - diet and nutritional choices - how one manages stress - lack of physical activity - genetic heritage
Essentially, if those first three factors are managed, those genetic predispositions often stay dormant. It's just easier for people today to shrug and say, "it's stress" or "it's in my genes," because they don't actually grasp the deeper connection between nutrition and stress response 😁
"IT CANNOT BE TREATED"
I categorically reject your claims; I simply don't agree, and there isn't a way to convince me of something I know isn't true, especially since I've seen the opposite with my own eyes ... 😎
"That is why it is possible to alleviate symptoms, or even eliminate them entirely, by changing your lifestyle."
But what does "eliminating symptoms entirely" actually mean? Have we solved the underlying issue, or just masked it? ... 😎 And what does "changing your lifestyle" actually entail? Does it mean eating balanced meals and having a salad twice a day, or does it mean moving from the mountains down to the coast? .. 😁
"Anything else regarding magic cures is total nonsense "
Everyone is entitled to believe whatever they want; personally, I believe in what I can see and what holds up in practice, using theory and logic merely to make sense of what I've already witnessed .. 😁
Question: have you had psoriasis since birth, or did it show up later in life? .. 😎
"If you can't see clearly from where you are standing, change your location or climb a hill." 🙂
"It doesn't really matter who I am right now, but rather who I might actually become."...
I’d also throw in the question of whether I even have the slightest desire to change, to learn anything new, to listen to anyone else, or if I’ll just end up listening to myself anyway? .. 😕
darkbison81 said:I found it (see the edit above): Eating Disorders are primarily psychological at their core, yet they manifest through physical symptoms, which means we could just as easily classify them as psychosomatic illnesses. Eating Disorders are essentially the result of various social, familial, emotional, physical, and genetic factors colliding to shape the personality of a young person during those volatile years of development. It’s a heavy burden, especially for girls who grow up believing their physical appearance is the ultimate gatekeeper to success and happiness in life.
Isn't it just an obvious fact that looking good can basically slide you through life without any real friction? It seems like everyone nowadays is just hunting for the path of least resistance. Attractive women find jobs more easily, they land boyfriends without breaking a sweat, and marriage comes much faster—though, if you ask me, men tend to discard those same beautiful women just as quickly once the novelty wears off. 😁 )
There’s really no point in playing dumb or turning a blind eye to reality; looks aren't everything, sure, but they definitely aren't irrelevant, much like intelligence, and honestly, what good is a genius if she’s built like Piggy? I know, I know—it sounds harsh, but a mirror isn't just some tool meant for checking how much weight you've gained or lost; it's more like a place where you finally sit down, look yourself dead in the eyes, and have a quiet, honest conversation with the actual culprit behind most of our problems, which is ourselves. 😢
Parents are ultimately to blame for their own failure to raise decent kids; I mean, how can they possibly instill real life values in their children when they don't even possess them themselves? At the end of the day, children learn by watching what people actually do, not by reading whatever is written in a textbook. 😁
darkbison81 said:mistybear4, you seeing this: - she's a size Small, but she sees herself as an XL. - she's still thinking about that pizza she ate, viewing it like something just rotting inside her...
don't you think that kind of mindset points to a really messed up way of perceiving both herself and food?
Look, I'm no Psychiatrist, but I try to get to the root of things and deal with them head-on...
In her mind, she's an XXL because she’s terrified she won't hit that size if she actually eats what she wants. It's pure fear.
And that pizza thing—she's obsessing over the calories, calculating the 1,200 intake and worrying about how much weight she'll gain if she doesn't purge immediately. 😢
The issue is psychological to the extent that she simply refuses to let go of certain habits, but if she could learn *how* to eat a slice of pizza without fearing the fallout on her body—treating herself like some visual object to be managed—or if she could convince herself there's something better than that pizza, then we've basically solved it, right?
But most people today just don't have those tools, and that's where the real catch lies... 😢 😉 😎
"Eating Disorders are mental illnesses, and those kinds of illnesses are treated by psychiatrists"
Let's look at this logically for a second; if there’s an issue with how someone eats, then you fix the diet to get rid of the disorder—wherever the cause lies, that's where you find the solution. I honestly don't see what role psychiatrists play in this... unless their job is just to convince you that you're hallucinating? 😁
"Environmental influence is merely the trigger for an eating disorder"
External influences only really affect people who haven't figured out their own internal blueprint for regulating their nutrition. At the end of the day, deciding whose advice we actually listen to is entirely up to us, and if we’re self-aware enough to admit when something is wrong, we shouldn't need a psychiatrist because we can reach a rational conclusion based on our own observations. To get a more precise answer, we just need more information—knowledge is the only real way out. 🙂
"I've already mentioned that I'm not sure who handles this in Washington, D.C.; I know some metabolic specialists, but as we discussed, they aren't the answer"
See? We have all this information, yet we still seem to know nothing. People tend to focus on the messenger rather than the message itself—they judge the person delivering the news instead of looking at the substance, and frankly, we're the ones to blame for making such superficial judgments. 🙂
"The most important things are invisible to the eye"😎
This thread is genuinely fascinating, though I find people's lived experiences even more compelling, because at the end of the day, you learn the most from real-world stories and actual 🙂
It seems everyone has suddenly realized that nutritional counseling is a goldmine for profit, and this specific example—or rather, this quote—serves as a perfect illustration:
"Once you see her in person, all those theories about non-fattening diets will make sense—the woman looks like Miss Piggy on the verge of a heart attack."
I should probably clarify right off the bat that I don't know the lady in question, nor do I have anything against her personally, but I can't say I'm surprised; I've run into this kind of thing more times than I care to count... 😁
Ultimately, it forces us to ask: "Who actually knows what they're talking about when it comes to nutrition?"
The real experts are the ones who have spent twenty-five years studying the field, people who dedicated their entire lives to researching botanicals—not just synthetic chemistry or pharmaceuticals—and how food impacts the human body; the ones who produce tangible 🙂 in their claims, who deal strictly in facts, hold global prestige at institutions like UCLA, and perhaps even pick up a Nobel Prize along the way. Those are the world's leading nutritionists.
Naturally, we have to wonder who offers the best guidance regarding diet and wellness. Personally, I've sought out the finest teachers—whom I'll be meeting soon here in the USA—and the advice they provide gives me the confidence to recommend things to others, while I try my best to translate those concepts so they're easy to grasp. But honestly, that isn't even the most critical part; the most vital things are people's experiences, the actual 🙂 achieved, and the advice that truly resonates. A picture really is worth a thousand words.
Great, now why don't you give me the full breakdown—calcium, iron, phosphorus, magnesium, zinc, iodine, potassium, copper, selenium, manganese, vitamins A, B, C, E, D, and whatever else is hiding in there—tell me exactly how much is in this food you're making, whether it's percentages or milligrams?
nimbledriver81, I can see you're getting worked up, so let’s just take a breath and try to find some common ground. To understand where I'm coming from, we really need to look back at your statement, "Psoriasis is an incurable disease," which prompted my little "association"—what you took as my interpretation that the whole idea is just plain nonsense. And honestly, I still stand by that...
Everything you’ve laid out makes sense; it isn't news to me. I understand the struggles you're facing, the way you've tried to tackle them, and the results those specific methods have yielded. But that's all part of a much larger picture. You have to realize that your experience is just that—your experience—and it doesn't mean something is inherently uncurable just because you haven't found the fix yet, or perhaps because you haven't stumbled upon the right information to make it happen. 😠
What feels impossible to you right now is perfectly doable for me. The various paths you've explored don't account for the solutions I can offer, which only reinforces my position. Some of the explanations you're relying on strike me as almost laughable. The only thing we truly agree on is that you and your sister haven't resolved this issue, and that you both ultimately want to. Whether you'll ever decide to start looking at things through the lens of hard facts and actual results is something we'll just have to wait and see.
If you want to eliminate a problem, you have to track down its root cause. If you ignore the source, you'll just spend your life exhausted by the symptoms, which is exactly what has already happened in your case. 😢 So, if you prefer listening to people who offer nothing but empty platitudes about how many others suffer from the same condition—just to make you feel less alone in your struggle—then by all means, keep doing that and stay angry. 😠 On the other hand, if you start listening to those who actually solved their problems, if you begin analyzing how and why they succeeded, and if you start grasping where the true cause lies, then there might actually be hope for you to find a resolution. 🙂 (I wonder, would it comfort you more to know that 50% of the population deals with this, or would the desire to not be part of that statistic drive you toward a real solution? Would you rather listen to your own logic and someone who has the answer, or stick with someone who definitely doesn't?)
I wrote a bit about psoriasis on the first page of this thread. It wasn't an exhaustive deep dive, but if you read carefully, the core logic is right there. 🙂
Yesterday, I attended a seminar on cellular nutrition, and I had a few guests join me. I introduced them to a woman who managed to clear her psoriasis through high-quality nutritional protocols, and they were quite impressed by what they saw. Now, they're starting down that same path to resolve their own issues.
"My sister has been suffering from the most severe form for nearly 30 years."
Thirty years ago, nobody understood the link between diet and health, but the landscape has shifted entirely. Nutritionists are uncovering new data every day; they make breakthroughs that eventually get adopted by mainstream medicine, setting new standards whether the establishment likes it or not. Just look around—everyone is talking about food, wellness, and how what we eat impacts our bodies. It’s deeply ironic, and frankly a bit tragic, that at a major US medical school, you won't find a single course dedicated to this. We are left to rely on the intuition of those rare, rational doctors who actually want to learn more and honor their calling to truly help people. 🙂
You have to accept that pharmaceuticals aren't designed to fix the root cause; they are designed to manage or mask symptoms so that you keep buying the medication indefinitely. Understand that there is no such thing as a drug without side effects. Even something considered relatively "safe," like Advil, comes with about twenty different potential side effects—and that's just when you compare it to the "stronger" stuff.
"On top of all that, she’s been dealing with psoriatic arthritis for a few years now, so even turning her neck is an ordeal. After all those rounds of chemotherapy, her bones are basically as fragile as glass. Her doctor warned her straight up that if she breaks anything, there’s zero chance of it healing properly. That's the kind of reality I'm talking about when I say people ignore the basics."
You know deep down it isn't nonsense, but you have to realize this is just what happens when we neglect how we treat ourselves—our diet, our habits, the whole works. Once we actually start respecting our own bodies as the one place we’re forced to live out our entire lives, maybe we’ll bother to maintain it. It’s like how people meticulously care for their homes, their backyards, or even their cars... and if they don't know how to fix something, they actually go ask someone who does. Usually, that should be the nutritionists and wellness experts, rather than just waiting for a prescription to fix a problem caused by lifestyle. 😕 😁
"Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food" (Hippocrates) "We are what we eat; your strength, your health, and your very life depend on it" (Hippocrates)
"If you have a strong enough WHY, you will always find a WAY" (Jim Rohn)
"...it's the phosphorus that makes kids who drink Diet Coke so hyperactive... though honestly, it's not just the kids! "
Is that why there's this whole crowd of people they call "the Coca-Cola lobbyists"? 😁 😁 😁
"For someone to actually learn something new, they first have to doubt everything they think they already know... until then, you're just wasting your breath trying to explain things to them."
I’ve never been much of a fan of soda in general, and I certainly don't have any love lost on Coca-Cola, whether you're drinking the regular stuff or a Diet Coke... I use the word "opinion" because I can't exactly make definitive scientific claims about Diet Coke here, but my gut tells me there's no way a drink can truly have zero calories like they claim...
driftinggull13, since you brought up McDonald's, you really ought to sit down and watch the movie Super Size Me before you start sharing your conclusions; if you can't find a copy somewhere, I'll just burn a copy for you. 🙂
Frank Alvarez8, it doesn't really matter WHO is talking, it’s about WHAT is actually being said... which is why I find you such a hilarious character, honestly, along with all your little comments... 😁 😁 😁
Frank Alvarez8 said:Herbalife!!! Now all your posts finally make sense!😁 Why don't we all just hold hands and give each other a big round of applause while we're at it? 🙂
The stuff that actually matters isn't something you can just spot with your eyes; you need a little bit of brainpower and heart to see it.. 🙂
Sophia Cruz6 said:Does anyone actually have a real solution for stretch marks? It’s honestly exhausting how much medical science has supposedly advanced, yet nobody seems to have come up with anything that actually works against these permanent "decorations."😢
The link I shared earlier shows some actual proof of how you can deal with skin issues... 🙂
Since our skin is our largest organ, and we know that regenerating cells can basically rebuild everything, it isn't really a mystery why these changes happen in the first place... (the skin has seven layers, and each one cycles out roughly every month) ..
Of course, the catch is that you have to consistently ingest all the specific micronutrients required for high-quality cellular regeneration, which is really only achievable through a system of "cellular nutrition"—essentially, we have to nourish our skin cells from the inside out, because most of these issues stem from nutritional deficiencies caused by a poor diet...😢
You could try topical treatments too, but that only works if you're using completely natural, plant-based creams.. 🙂
nimbledriver81 said:Psoriasis is an incurable condition, plain and simple. I suppose if you happen to be lucky, you get a milder version, but if luck isn't on your side, even the heavy-duty cytostatics won't touch it.
It feels a bit unrefined to just tell someone they're talking nonsense, so I'll refrain from saying that... 😁
