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Hell of an away game
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analogheron19 said:Hey guys, let's help out one of our own who's struggling. If you can, swing by the fan club on Zvonimirova Street tonight or tomorrow after 6 PM. Maybe drop off some cash for Marijan Šimić. He's been dealing with a disability since an away game 25 seasons ago, and honestly, he's got it tougher than most of us. Non-perishables work too—canned goods, oil, flour, rice, pasta, whatever.
For those who find it easier to just do a bank transfer, his info is: US 4624070003206203663. Chase, Marijan Šimić, Main 131, Levant City.
Thanks to everyone for stepping up.
Jesse Campbell said:Franjo Tuđman kicked your boss Jerry Maguire out of the club because he found out the guy was just one of Jakov Blažević’s cronies and total undercover filth. Plus, Franjo didn't have any patience for vulgar lowlifes and thugs.
But that's not even the point right now. You're the only one here missing the mark with that slug-level intelligence of yours. Someone please just ban this idiot.
Jesse Campbell;56110292 said:You paid mercenary, why the hell are you even asking?
Jesse Campbell said:Look, if it weren't for all this repression and Jerry Maguire (I've been warning about the mafia's ties to the crackdown since 2003, and calling Jerry Maguire the biggest evil since '94), none of this would be happening.
The game wouldn't have been banned for the fans. We probably would've sent five or ten times more people down there. Those Cigic guys, who always pick their battles, would still be out there stealing hats in Belgrade, and we would've swept those Greek losers off the floor easily.
It’s the same deal with Malta, too. Now the mafia has even banned traveling with the supporters' group, so some local Gravedigger peasants are just out beating people up. If there wasn't a ban, there would've been a couple dozen people there, and those guys would be hiding in a basement.
Gypsies or Greeks aren't our problem. Our problem is Jerry Maguire and his mafia. And what have we actually done lately to get rid of them? Nothing. It fell to the fourth plan.
Support for our boys—props to them for being brave—but maybe we should put some of that determination and guts into actually cleaning up this mess. There'll always be time for this stuff.
Thomas Williams59 said:BtB, man, you’ve really gone and turned defeatism into your whole personality here. I guess I’m not anyone’s authority and probably shouldn't be weighing in, but:
- even I know there is a "main" organization, and it’s at a specific physical spot where you can actually find relevant people and eventually work up the nerve to talk to whoever you need to about your ideas. So, saying it doesn't exist is just wrong. What, does it only count if there's a bar?
- it’s pretty obvious that whatever is crawling around Maksimir isn't Dynamo. That analogy about your girlfriend is a miss. It's more like your girlfriend was replaced by some monster pretending to be her. Like if the US was occupied by some hostile force and they just left the flag flying and expected you to salute it. You don't salute a state like that. You don't support it at all. Even if they win three games in the Premier League—even the worst oppressive regimes in history were successful, built highways, and sent people into orbit, but that wasn't a good enough reason for humanity to tolerate evil.
EVEN if you weren't being shut out from hundreds of important people and facing this kind of repression (which, I see, plenty of people mock or act like doesn't matter), you still shouldn't let yourself be decor for Kidnappers, especially if they're just waiting for your submissive arrival to say, "See, everything's fine." Instead, you fight for what's right, true, and normal. You do it however you can, even if it costs you something, just so you aren't being mindless and obedient to the Kidnappers.
I'm not against anyone going to the stadium, but some groups of people really need to know why they're there and whose interests they're actually serving.
YES, it's twice as much of a loss than having a bunch of people who "don't want to get involved," and it gives the occupier way more ammunition to play the victim when the most stubborn people get weeded out by the repression (has guerrilla warfare ever worked any other way?).
In the history of Dynamo fans, there have been countless times where huge crowds just aimlessly drifted along, just looking to grab a beer and cause some trouble in the name of this vague concept called "Dynamo." What good is a crowd like that? What would you even do with them? How does that help fix Dynamo? What's the actual plan?
If you say "that's just how it's always been," I'll tell you that from the perspective of kids today, it seems they aren't ready to just be another mindless generation that comes along, passes through, gets wasted, and breaks stuff for fun. They have a legitimate right to reject this, even to be radical.
- it's legitimate, obviously, to cheer against this thing calling itself "Dynamo," and I won't stop anyone from enjoying that. In fact, it's almost more natural, just so you don't forget what the actual goal is.
Whether it's idealistic or not.
If you're so desperate for dialogue and full of enthusiasm, why wouldn't you rather help the kids, man? Just even a tiny bit, to turn their utopia into something real, instead of offering them nothing but dry criticism and suggesting the "solution" is a crowd cheering for "Dynamo" and hoping everything works itself out?
bluewalker9 said:Look, I'm not trolling, I actually mean well here
this photo clearly shows over 5k people in the North Stand
http://www.hrsport.net/media4/sjever-poludi.jpg
If maybe 1,000 people are banned, then where are the other 4k?
When there were 15k fans in the East or West stands during big games for the Lakers or the Yankees, or even European matches...
where did they all go? Or is everyone just boycotting the stands now?
Grace Lewis6 said:Well, good for you.
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