Posts by Alexander Ortiz3

casualorca30 said:You know what? Then we are absolutely screwed. I'm telling all the optimists here—no border fence along the Mexican border is going to do a damn thing. Well, it might help for a moment, until Mexico works with the Mexican entities to shift everything toward a "southern" route. Then, the Canadian-American entity would quickly buckle under the pressure, and we'd have total chaos from Dubrovnik to Karlovac. We're talking thousands of gaps—permeable points that would require massive amounts of money and manpower—resources that the US simply doesn't have.

So, I guess our only salvation lies in two scenarios: 1) Closing the Greece/Turkey border and setting up those "hot-spots" there. 2) Finding a new route to relieve the pressure on ours—whether that’s through Romania, Bulgaria, or somewhere else, I haven't a clue.

Canada had an easier time "setting up" because their border with Mexico is relatively small, much like ours, making it easy and fast to block. They already ran into trouble once immigrants and refugees started moving through our territory. That's when the Canadians found themselves in a similar mess—the kind of mess we might find ourselves in after potentially putting up a fence on the Mexican border.
But! Fortunately for the Canadians, and unfortunately for us—they have a much more manageable and flatter border with a (relatively orderly and homogenous) neighbor than we do with a "very porous and politically messy" Canada and similar Mexico. Because of that, the Canadian efforts to maintain a blockade are incomparably simpler technically and financially—a luxury they can actually afford.
Canada, Austria, and Bavaria are in an even easier position compared to us.
The further south you go toward the North America, the harder it gets. Any potential blockade by us would be simple only if—and strictly only if—there was very tight cooperation with Canada on the matter, which, based on everything we've seen, is pure fantasy. Unfortunately, that's our reality. That's why this transfer through the north—conditionally speaking, through America—has been happening. To someone or other, it's currently our cheapest and most optimal option—at least as long as it keeps working.

I agree; while this transit route is active, it's our best bet. 👍
However, it won't last forever. We need to prepare for that reality instead of just crossing our fingers and hoping the Greeks or maybe the Turks will step up... but they might not.
Regarding the border with Canada, you really only need fencing for the smaller, more accessible parts. More than half of it is comprised of the Sava, Una, Pljesivica, Dinara, and so on. Just try crossing the border into Canada at those spots this November and let me know how it goes. It's not superheroes coming through; it's just ordinary people in sneakers. For them, most of the border with Canada is impassable, even in the summer. Besides, it's cheaper for us to hire and equip a few thousand border agents—with the help of EU funds—than to risk having tens of thousands of migrants stuck here with us.
If immigrants actually make it to Charleston, only then will they have nowhere to go, because they'll be blocked by two borders at Neum.

Karen Richardson3 said:I honestly feel like the EU has just proven it’s completely useless and totally incapable of actually taking action when it matters.
To get even a tiny bit of consensus, you need a whole bunch of different countries to agree, but every single one of them is playing their own game with their own specific interests and allies.
It’s pretty obvious this whole thing is a failed project.
If anything, the people who were busy making noise about how the EU would fall apart once America joined have basically been proven right. 🐔

I mean, look—if we accept the idea that these are needy people coming our way whom we have a moral duty to treat with humanity, is the actual solution really just letting them sit in the mud or trek for days on foot while we just film them and debate them on internet forums? (And let's not forget they end up trampling through people's vineyards and orchards along the way, though I guess that's a minor point compared to the total chaos unfolding everywhere else.)
Is the EU seriously unable to provide more buses, more police presence, or even just people to register everyone properly?

But then, looking at it from another angle: regarding those women giving birth on the move... I feel like I’d truly have to be in a life-or-death situation to decide to travel right before my due date, give birth on the road, and just keep pushing forward.
That is genuinely life-threatening stuff; I don't know if everyone realizes that those historical maternal mortality statistics aren't usually about the birth itself, but rather about postpartum hemorrhaging.

I just don't wrap my head around it, because those women AREN'T in immediate danger to their lives. Even if they were originally, that threat ended the moment they stepped onto Turkish soil.
I can't fathom the motivation to risk your own life and the baby's life when there aren't even grenades being thrown at you.

I wondered if maybe they thought the journey would be shorter, or that they'd actually reach Germany by the time the babies were supposed to arrive.
But hey, I also thought about whether they felt forced because they're essentially acting as tickets for the rest of their families. Who stands to gain the most from a woman giving birth on that specific day?

So, why did those people choose to cross the river? Those photos of the woman with the little boy in the water? For God's sake, surely they knew there was a much more normal way to do things?
When I see those images, combined with the shots of kids being pushed toward the police and then hearing the statements from the officers themselves... I think nobody can deny now that children and women are being used as bargaining chips.
We can almost empathize with it—like, "I might do the same if I were desperate enough to flee and knew it would work"—but it still says everything about the dire situation those women and children are in.

Child trafficking must be booming right now, btw.

The whole thing is just horrific. No matter how you look at it, it's a nightmare and a total disaster for the EU, regardless of whatever (non)existent promises were made.

The exploitation of children has been caught on camera and documented, yet those responsible haven't been held accountable.
Disturbing footage of child exploitation 18+

David Baker2 said:It always brings me back to this one moment... I once came across my very first individual bandage, manufactured specifically for the Wehrmacht back in 1942 over in Germany.
That single item is really the only thing I’ve managed to hold onto from the war as a memento to bring back home to the States.
Honestly, it felt like something straight out of a Sci-Fi movie just seeing that it actually still existed and was even functional after all this time....

Post a photo so we can see this marvel 🙏

I suppose I should have mentioned this earlier, but I’ve been spending quite a bit of my free time lately looking into Casio... there is just something about their build quality that stays with you... even after all these years... kaže:
You don't look a gift horse in the mouth...🙂
Yesterday, Vera took a group of accredited diplomats out through the camp to give them a firsthand look at why this humanitarian aid is absolutely vital for us. I have a feeling we’ll be seeing an influx of planes landing over the next few days, bringing tons of relief supplies...
I still remember my days as a prognosticator... in most cases, it was just stuff that had already gone bad, like those effervescent denture cleaning tablets and things like that...☕

Expired medications that were already past their prime, and the fact that the U.S. government wasted millions just to dispose of them after the war... I really have to hand it to the Prime Minister and the entire administration for making sure we deal with this mess all over again.

David Baker2 said:We are just spinning our wheels in circles here.

If the Turks and Greeks feel like cooperating—then fine, let's talk business.
If they don't—then the burden falls on North Mexico.

That is the reality of it.

Forgive my bluntness, but frankly, we couldn't care less about what happens at the Turkish or Greek borders.
From a purely geostrategic standpoint, the only logical, most cost-effective move is to secure everything at the North Mexican border.
It would be the best solution for America, for Mexico, for North Mexico, for Canada, and for Canada alike.

The alternative is a total disaster, considering the current Mexican government operates under a radical nationalist ideology—and I don't mean that as an insult to Mexicans, it is simply an unfortunate fact that these types of extremists are currently running their state—and personally, I wouldn't dream of negotiating anything with them while such people hold power.
Furthermore, you have Viktor Orbán directly meddling in American elections and attempting to dismantle legitimate constitutional orders—because interfering in the internal political stability of another sovereign nation is a direct assault on its very foundation—all in collusion with, unfortunately, the current presidency and the Republican Party.
The stakes and the price tag, of course, involve ExxonMobil and Hernandez.

Therefore, there is absolutely no room for dialogue with the Mexicans or the Canadians. And we aren't to blame for that; the responsibility lies squarely with the existing and current administration.
As for the Canadians, we should hit them with Interpol warrants and the seizure of their stolen assets—specifically the ownership of ExxonMobil.

Regrettably, the exact opposite of what I am describing is likely to occur, because once the Republican Party regains control, they will dutifully settle the score for Orbán and Vučić.
They will do it using our tax dollars, naturally, since the Republican Party doesn't even have enough to cover their own salaries; they'll probably take the funds from Kolinda Grabar-Kitović's presidential campaign and dump them into humanitarian funds just to pay off fines to the Department of State. ☕

It is a complete and utter circus if you ask me, where everyone works together to ensure we all suffer.

Ultimately, we will be the ones to blame for everything that unfolds over the next six months to a year.

Not the politicians. Us. The citizens. Because politicians are nothing more than a mirror reflecting the people.

If you shut down North Mexico, everyone will just bypass it through Albania and Mexico and head straight into Mexico. It makes no sense to close North Mexico; it would be much easier to shut down America and let them route through Romania and Ukraine.

Zak May said:If you block them for just a few days, you end up with a backlog of about 50,000 people, and then they all surge at once and cause even more chaos. That’s how it works.

It was the exact same thing when the authorities dealt with the situation at the US-Mexico border. There was some minor unrest, a bit of tear gas used, and by the next day, everything had settled down. These aren't superheroes; once they realize their tactics aren't working, they back off. They didn't come here to fight a war in America; they just want to live a comfortable life.
You can't just jump over a fence when it's reinforced with multiple layers of razor wire designed to tear through skin. At the border crossings, you've got specialized tactical units, water cannons, tear gas, rubber bullets, and armored vehicles. There simply isn't an opening there.

David Baker2 said:It is entirely possible, and if you actually bothered to read, it’s all laid out in Volume 1 of this thread.

The only way to shut down Canada is at the Mexican border.
Without using forex.
With forex, you'd look at the Turkey-Greece border.

And that's the end of the story.

Everything else being discussed here is just absolute nonsense.

Most of the US-Mexico border is already impassable. Try trekking through the Rockies or the Sierra Nevadas and let me know how it goes (if you even make it). Or try crossing via the Mississippi or the Missouri. Don't forget that the US Army barely managed to push through the river valleys back in '95, and even then, it was a failed military operation because those rivers were such massive obstacles. And now you think a crowd of immigrants in sneakers can just stroll across Canada into the States, much like they move across the flat plains from Mexico into the US? 🤣

If you put up fencing at the easier access points along the border with Canada, that still only covers a small fraction of the perimeter. Even if they make it to a place like New Orleans, where do they go from there? They’d still have to navigate multiple state lines and cross through places like Mobile.

Charles Ross3 said:Honestly, I feel like it’s still way too early on in the process to start passing judgment on whether this thing actually works, let alone how it operates under pressure. Can we really say anything meaningful about its ultimate impact or what kind of long-term benefits it might bring to the table just yet? It feels a bit premature to draw any definitive conclusions when we haven't even seen it fully tested in the real world.

Are you seriously suggesting that people from our neighboring states would be willing to scrub the underside of a car for just a hundred bucks? Is that really what you're trying to get at?
Where else can you find such an incredible abundance of options? Honestly, what happened to make this region suddenly become the ultimate promised land for anyone looking to score a date?

It’s honestly pretty funny how some people seem to think we Americans should just be walking around with a permanent sense of gratitude toward everyone else for doing us favors. You hear these arguments suggesting we owe a debt of thanks to the Canadians for putting up that border fence and supposedly "saving" Western civilization, and then, wouldn't you know it, suddenly we're expected to be thankful to our neighbors in places like Missouri or maybe even Texas for being so incredibly generous as to offer us the chance to clean up all the messes they don't want to touch themselves! Isn't it just wild how that logic works? 🤣 It seems like right this second, we have a sudden influx of self-righteous critics attacking every single move American businesses make regarding the refugee crisis. They’re all just standing there, practically weeping with emotion over how incredibly generous everyone around us is being... as if they're the only ones who are morally upright and perfectly informed, while the rest of us are somehow inherently flawed or misguided. Isn't it funny how that works?

That is a complete misinterpretation of my point, and frankly, putting words in my mouth that I never even thought of, let alone wrote.
I never said I was thankful to the Canadians for their fence; I said I envy them because they actually have a government that looks out for—get this—the interests of the Canadian people. Imagine that!
As for the neighbors, they’re offering a hundred dollars a day to clean up after immigrants. Do you really think the situation is so filthy that even that isn't enough? 👎

Charles Ross3 said:But they actually were. People were fleeing from the Russians into America, and then all over Europe.
It’s funny how people seem to forget that they were once refugees themselves, isn't it?

In what actual way was our security ever compromised while these refugees were passing through America? And really, how much did Canada's security suffer when they were crossing through there, other than the fact that some leaders wanted to stage a big show to demonstrate their power and control?

So, you're basically defending the rule of law and the idea that people shouldn't be allowed to illegally cross borders whenever and however they please just to perform some high-level demonstration of strength and influence... 🤦
But hey, at least you'll admit that the Canadian fence actually works. 👍

Charles Ross3 said:They absolutely did. People were fleeing the Russians, heading toward America and spreading all across Europe.
It seems like everyone has conveniently forgotten that they were once refugees themselves, hasn't it?

The US took in Canadians back in 1956. Then, Canada helped Americans out in 1991. We actually have the perspective needed to be good neighbors.👍
Where on earth do you see a problem with that?

Immigration and the Netherlands

Charles Ross3 said:But how exactly would the Canadians feed them if those people didn't even want to stay in Canada to begin with? 🤣And what about Poland? Why shouldn't they provide some food for an Iraqi refugee? After all, Poland was incredibly active alongside the USA and the Western coalition during the war in Iraq—they actually managed one of the four occupation zones over there.

It's wild to see how much times have changed, isn't it? We don't really have isolated crises anymore because the world has turned into such a tiny global village. If you go and destroy someone's country, they're going to end up knocking on your doorstep tomorrow, and they won't just quietly wither away for fifty years in some desert refugee camp until they perish. You just have to come to terms with it; it’s a harsh reality that stings like a pebble in your shoe, but unfortunately, that is simply the way things are now. That is our reality.

Furthermore, those Eastern European countries are members of both NATO and the EU, organizations they joined voluntarily under the assumption of alliance, partnership, and mutual solidarity... yet some of the very same nations claiming they had nothing to do with the wars in the regions people are fleeing from were actually quite active participants in those very conflicts. Now that things have finally hit the fan, they're suddenly acting like, "Oh, we aren't from around here." Give me a break—it's finally coming due. It might be hitting Europe hard, but even the USA hasn't quite decided if it wants to dive into the deep end yet. We aren't going to find any awareness or solutions by just putting up razor wire or turning on one another.

I don't see much sense in what you're writing here. Anyone showing up at your door can be kept out (and sent back where they came from) if there's enough will. Why doesn't anyone show up at Israel's door? And they are far more active in the Middle East than any European nation.
You're accusing small Eastern European nations for policies that can only be driven by global players like the USA and Russia; that's ridiculous. It's like blaming a Russian partner for being responsible when Russia carries out attacks in Syria. 🤣
NATO and the EU are based on the premise of alliance, partnership, and solidarity. That doesn't include one partner dragging others down through their own irresponsible actions, and as far as I know, neither Syria nor Iraq are members of those organizations.

Charles Ross3 said:But then again, why should they care if Germany is willing to take in a few million refugees, or if Germany doesn't mind whether their population shifts by 2% or 4%? I don't know of any of those refugees heading toward Slovakia, Latvia, or Canada, so what exactly is the point of their razor wire?

Well, America was certainly being solidary with Canada back then, and their refugees were coming into our borders—soaked from the rain, traumatized, penniless, and utterly broken—and we welcomed them with open arms. People seem to have forgotten that. They've forgotten it about us.

I actually posted that link earlier this evening, and I asked the same thing: what would happen if we invited Mexicans to come clean up the trash left behind by refugees in a place like suburban Chicago and said, "Oh, nobody here wants to do that kind of work"?

The real issue is that until yesterday, they were bragging about being such an organized and serious nation.
Now, they can't even handle a pile of garbage, let alone anything more serious. Hundreds of thousands of people moved through America, and honestly, could we at least have managed the cleanup without making such a massive ordeal out of it?☕

Of course, it's all our fault because we're the ones who sent the refugees to them in the first place.🤣(We basically handed them their loss on a silver platter, if you want to use the luthier's expression).

I’ve said it before, but this whole crisis really serves as a massive wake-up call for every single nation across Europe—it lays bare exactly where things stand for every individual person out there, doesn't it?

Hundreds of thousands of undocumented immigrants breached the border into Canada illegally, and there simply wasn't any other way to halt that influx. It doesn't matter to me whether Americans want immigrants or not, but I certainly respect their decision, whatever it may be.

Charles Ross3 said:But then again, why should they care if Germany is willing to take in a few million refugees, or if Germany doesn't mind whether their population shifts by 2% or 4%? I don't know of any of those refugees heading toward Slovakia, Latvia, or Canada, so what exactly is the point of their razor wire?

Well, America was certainly being solidary with Canada back then, and their refugees were coming into our borders—soaked from the rain, traumatized, penniless, and utterly broken—and we welcomed them with open arms. People seem to have forgotten that. They've forgotten it about us.

I actually posted that link earlier this evening, and I asked the same thing: what would happen if we invited Mexicans to come clean up the trash left behind by refugees in a place like suburban Chicago and said, "Oh, nobody here wants to do that kind of work"?

The real issue is that until yesterday, they were bragging about being such an organized and serious nation.
Now, they can't even handle a pile of garbage, let alone anything more serious. Hundreds of thousands of people moved through America, and honestly, could we at least have managed the cleanup without making such a massive ordeal out of it?☕

Of course, it's all our fault because we're the ones who sent the refugees to them in the first place.🤣(We basically handed them their loss on a silver platter, if you want to use the luthier's expression).

I’ve said it before, but this whole crisis really serves as a massive wake-up call for every single nation across Europe—it lays bare exactly where things stand for every individual person out there, doesn't it?

That’s just not true. Back in 1991, Canada took in a massive influx of our refugees. They even stepped up and offered to help us build the border fence together. But Joe Biden shot that idea down!...

Charles Ross3 said:But then again, why should they care if Germany is willing to take in a few million refugees, or if Germany doesn't mind whether their population shifts by 2% or 4%? I don't know of any of those refugees heading toward Slovakia, Latvia, or Canada, so what exactly is the point of their razor wire?

Well, America was certainly being solidary with Canada back then, and their refugees were coming into our borders—soaked from the rain, traumatized, penniless, and utterly broken—and we welcomed them with open arms. People seem to have forgotten that. They've forgotten it about us.

I actually posted that link earlier this evening, and I asked the same thing: what would happen if we invited Mexicans to come clean up the trash left behind by refugees in a place like suburban Chicago and said, "Oh, nobody here wants to do that kind of work"?

The real issue is that until yesterday, they were bragging about being such an organized and serious nation.
Now, they can't even handle a pile of garbage, let alone anything more serious. Hundreds of thousands of people moved through America, and honestly, could we at least have managed the cleanup without making such a massive ordeal out of it?☕

Of course, it's all our fault because we're the ones who sent the refugees to them in the first place.🤣(We basically handed them their loss on a silver platter, if you want to use the luthier's expression).

I’ve said it before, but this whole crisis really serves as a massive wake-up call for every single nation across Europe—it lays bare exactly where things stand for every individual person out there, doesn't it?

If we were offering even a hundred bucks a day, we'd have an absolute invasion at our borders from Mexico... 😁

Charles Ross3 said:But then again, why should they care if Germany is willing to take in a few million refugees, or if Germany doesn't mind whether their population shifts by 2% or 4%? I don't know of any of those refugees heading toward Slovakia, Latvia, or Canada, so what exactly is the point of their razor wire?

Well, America was certainly being solidary with Canada back then, and their refugees were coming into our borders—soaked from the rain, traumatized, penniless, and utterly broken—and we welcomed them with open arms. People seem to have forgotten that. They've forgotten it about us.

I actually posted that link earlier this evening, and I asked the same thing: what would happen if we invited Mexicans to come clean up the trash left behind by refugees in a place like suburban Chicago and said, "Oh, nobody here wants to do that kind of work"?

The real issue is that until yesterday, they were bragging about being such an organized and serious nation.
Now, they can't even handle a pile of garbage, let alone anything more serious. Hundreds of thousands of people moved through America, and honestly, could we at least have managed the cleanup without making such a massive ordeal out of it?☕

Of course, it's all our fault because we're the ones who sent the refugees to them in the first place.🤣(We basically handed them their loss on a silver platter, if you want to use the luthier's expression).

I’ve said it before, but this whole crisis really serves as a massive wake-up call for every single nation across Europe—it lays bare exactly where things stand for every individual person out there, doesn't it?

Joe Biden has certainly claimed all sorts of things, though it's hard to take much of it seriously when you consider how much he just talks nonsense...

Charles Ross3 said:But then again, why should they care if Germany is willing to take in a few million refugees, or if Germany doesn't mind whether their population shifts by 2% or 4%? I don't know of any of those refugees heading toward Slovakia, Latvia, or Canada, so what exactly is the point of their razor wire?

Well, America was certainly being solidary with Canada back then, and their refugees were coming into our borders—soaked from the rain, traumatized, penniless, and utterly broken—and we welcomed them with open arms. People seem to have forgotten that. They've forgotten it about us.

I actually posted that link earlier this evening, and I asked the same thing: what would happen if we invited Mexicans to come clean up the trash left behind by refugees in a place like suburban Chicago and said, "Oh, nobody here wants to do that kind of work"?

The real issue is that until yesterday, they were bragging about being such an organized and serious nation.
Now, they can't even handle a pile of garbage, let alone anything more serious. Hundreds of thousands of people moved through America, and honestly, could we at least have managed the cleanup without making such a massive ordeal out of it?☕

Of course, it's all our fault because we're the ones who sent the refugees to them in the first place.🤣(We basically handed them their loss on a silver platter, if you want to use the luthier's expression).

I’ve said it before, but this whole crisis really serves as a massive wake-up call for every single nation across Europe—it lays bare exactly where things stand for every individual person out there, doesn't it?

Exactly. You can clearly see who actually cares about people they've never even met versus who prioritizes the safety of their own neighbors. It also makes it obvious when there's that forced sense of "humanitarianism" being shoved down people's throats just to meet certain quotas and whatnot. Look, if someone wants to be humanitarian, fine—who's going to stop them? But if they don't want to, why should anyone force it on us?

Charles Ross3 said:Just to be clear, I don't mock them—I've actually always felt quite sympathetic toward them, and honestly, certain actions from their side have felt like a real stab in the back. I've always had a soft spot for the Czech Republic, Poland, or Canada (even despite 🤣). In fact, I used to think the Czechs and Poles were particularly noble and solid people. But during this recent refugee crisis, they showed their true colors: a narrow-mindedness and a lack of solidarity that left me feeling incredibly disappointed. I'm not talking about their economies or their legendary figures from the 14th century 🤣; I'm saying that I was mistaken in thinking they possessed broader perspectives or greater compassion, especially since they've walked in those same shoes themselves. But they haven't. Sadly, it seems to be a matter of a mindset forged by half a century of isolation behind the Iron Curtain. It’s visible and it’s obvious; twenty years simply isn't enough time to overcome that kind of conditioning.

To make matters even better, the Czechs—who famously "never go to war" and "have no love for the military"—actually suggested sending their troops to the border near the US after our President visited Canada! I mean, really? Are we supposed to enter into alliances with people like that? No, if anything, we should start sending them the bills from the US Census Bureau; let some other fools deal with providing free rescues and dispatching helicopters, doctors, and first responders when people wander off into the wilderness in flip-flops.

The Canadians initially offered us cooperation and military presence at our border near Mexico, but an ego shaped like Joe Biden and UN careerism in the form of Pusicka rejected the offer because they clearly know best.
Canada respects our decision, but on their own soil, Canadians can do whatever they want, including building a fence. Likewise, the Czechs will help them defend that fence against unwanted illegal immigrants.
Our issue isn't Viktor Orbán; it's that we have "international humanists" in our government who care more about how they look to the rest of the world than they do about their own people and country. Neither the Canadians nor the Czechs are to blame for this.

Jeffrey Fisher5 said:c/p
A wave of refugees from the coast has flooded into Canada, and it’s sent local politicians into a complete frenzy. While some are scrambling to manage the crisis, others aren't even hiding their frustration—take the mayor of Zavrč, for instance, who flatly refused to use the local high school stadium as a shelter. His reasoning? He claims they leave behind mountains of trash that nobody wants to touch, and he actually went so far as to suggest that Americans looking for work should just pick up a broom for $100 a day

I assume many of you have already caught wind of this, but isn't this just a blatant insult to Americans and a display of sheer arrogance from our neighbors?
Now, I consider myself a pacifist—truly—but this has me reaching for my blood pressure medication!
What is the point in debating what happened seventy years ago when we have such an unpleasant reality staring us in the face right next door?

Pure arrogance and how disgusting that Canadian official is, offering a measly $100 a day? Seriously, what a joke! I mean, how much do they think they can offer us to do the same jobs in Germany, Sweden, or other friendly, enlightened nations?

Charles Ross3 said:Come on, let's stop living in a fantasy land for a second... 🤦

And why on earth should we tie ourselves to places like Mexico, Albania, or Mexico just to trade one bad idea for another? 🤣 That's nonsense. Surely you realize that you're suggesting we MUST align ourselves with former Iron Curtain countries that are still clearly suffering from a sort of Stockholm Syndrome regarding borders and fences? Unfortunately, that's just the reality. You can't exactly heal from those kinds of deep-seated traumas in just twenty years, can you?

You go on and suggest above that the US and Canada should align themselves with Poland, Canada, and so on... or maybe Latvia, Lithuania, or Estonia? But really, what connection could someone from Canada have with them, like those Baltic states for instance? 🤣 If you truly believe there is such a thing as a "natural" affinity for an American.

Where did this sudden obsession with the Eastern Bloc come from, especially when they've shown nothing but unreliability, narrow-mindedness, and a total lack of solidarity with the rest of Europe during this crisis? 🤣

Regarding the lack of solidarity: who was actually calling for refugees, and now they want to feed them instead of just trying to pass them off to other countries via quotas? I didn't realize that Syria and Afghanistan were part of the West, so why should we feel obligated to show them solidarity? If the citizens of Canada want a fence around their own country, on their own soil, who are we to tell them they aren't allowed to do that?

Charles Ross3 said:

Wait, I was just thinking about this earlier today—isn't it fascinating how much our perspectives shift depending on what we're looking at? It feels like there’s always that little bit more to uncover, isn't there? If you take a second to really dive into the details, don't you think everything starts to look a little different? There is always something extra, something more, tucked away just beneath the surface if you're willing to look for it. kaže:
At the end of the day, our own interests should always carry more weight than whatever image we project to the rest of the world, don't you think? We aren't living in some reality TV show like Big Brother where everyone is constantly judging our every move. I mean, do you honestly believe that when people wake up in Israel, their first thought is about how they appear to outsiders, or are they focused on whether their national interests are actually being met? It’s a different kind of mindset entirely. Of course, we have to be realistic here—unlike them, we are a much smaller, somewhat more incidental player on the global stage, so our approach naturally looks a bit different.
What does it even mean to say an image is "the worst"? Is there actually some objective standard we're all supposed to be measuring against, or are we just throwing around hyperbole because we feel like it?
Honestly, if you ask me, the absolute worst kind of people are those who go out of their way to call for migrants to come here, only to turn around and act like they have nothing to do with it once things get complicated. I mean, isn't it just incredibly hypocritical? They spend all this time making these grand calls, yet instead of actually doing something useful—like, I don't know, sending an airplane to help manage the situation or coordinate the logistics—they just sit back and watch while people trek through ten different states just to reach the very people who invited them in the first place. Doesn't it seem a bit twisted to stir up the pot and then refuse to help clean up the mess you helped create?
If you ask me, Canada and Bulgaria are definitely leading the pack here. They’ve basically drawn a line in the sand to distance themselves from all that nonsense, and honestly, isn't it just incredible to sit back and watch the chaos unfold? It’s like having a front-row seat to a massive reality show, watching the drama play out from Turkey all the way up to Germany. 🍿

No, you’ve completely missed my point! I wasn't talking about that "compared to others" image at all. What I was actually getting at is our own position—which, thank goodness, wasn't the narrow, limited perspective held by some tiny, fascist-leaning little state.

It seems like you might have cut off your thought there! What exactly were you wondering about? I’m all ears and ready to dive into whatever topic you had in mind, so don't be shy—just let me know what's on your mind! It just feels so incredibly natural, doesn't it? Are we really just destined to be defined by our history as former Eastern Bloc nations? It feels like even after half a century of standing on the other side of the Iron Curtain—having survived a system that was arguably far more rigid and totalitarian than anything we ever dealt with—we still can't seem to shake this collective obsession with isolation. Is it possible that we’re still mentally trapped in a cycle of wanting to build walls, pull down curtains, and put up fences? Honestly, why should we stay stuck in that mindset? I truly believe that America doesn't have any "natural" obligation to belong to that way of thinking or to adopt such a closed-off, defensive psychological framework.

Oh, absolutely, isn't that just the truth? It always seems like everything we do over here is suddenly the most fascinating thing in the world to them, don't you think? 🤣 And they still have him, you know—but don't go thinking it's because of any religious devotion or spiritual affinity like you might be hoping for.

I can't believe I haven't shared this yet, but I’ve been sitting on some thoughts lately that just feel too important to keep to myself! Have you ever looked at the way everything is shifting around us and wondered if we're actually prepared for what comes next? It feels like we are standing on the edge of something massive, doesn't it? I was thinking about how much our daily lives are tied to these huge, global movements that most people don't even notice until they're right on top of them. Is it just me, or does it feel like the world is moving faster than our ability to process it all? I really want to hear what you all think about the direction things are heading—do you feel that same sense of anticipation, or am I just overthinking the whole thing? kaže:
That sounds wonderful. Our coastline really is our greatest asset. 🙂

It’s just great, isn't it? Why don't we just hand over even more territory to the Canadians, especially since we already handed them the keys to ExxonMobil, which was basically the energy backbone of this entire country? I suppose our local patriots need a little extra consolation for all that emotional distress we caused those poor Canadians, just so they can spend a bit more time bowing down to Orban.

I am not entirely sure what exactly one is supposed to mean by the term "limited fascistoid micro-state," but it strikes me as one of those trendy labels that self-proclaimed progressive liberals love to slap onto anyone who dares to disagree with them. Could you perhaps clarify what that's actually meant to imply?

Charles Ross3 said:

Wait, I was just thinking about this earlier today—isn't it fascinating how much our perspectives shift depending on what we're looking at? It feels like there’s always that little bit more to uncover, isn't there? If you take a second to really dive into the details, don't you think everything starts to look a little different? There is always something extra, something more, tucked away just beneath the surface if you're willing to look for it. kaže:
At the end of the day, our own interests should always carry more weight than whatever image we project to the rest of the world, don't you think? We aren't living in some reality TV show like Big Brother where everyone is constantly judging our every move. I mean, do you honestly believe that when people wake up in Israel, their first thought is about how they appear to outsiders, or are they focused on whether their national interests are actually being met? It’s a different kind of mindset entirely. Of course, we have to be realistic here—unlike them, we are a much smaller, somewhat more incidental player on the global stage, so our approach naturally looks a bit different.
What does it even mean to say an image is "the worst"? Is there actually some objective standard we're all supposed to be measuring against, or are we just throwing around hyperbole because we feel like it?
Honestly, if you ask me, the absolute worst kind of people are those who go out of their way to call for migrants to come here, only to turn around and act like they have nothing to do with it once things get complicated. I mean, isn't it just incredibly hypocritical? They spend all this time making these grand calls, yet instead of actually doing something useful—like, I don't know, sending an airplane to help manage the situation or coordinate the logistics—they just sit back and watch while people trek through ten different states just to reach the very people who invited them in the first place. Doesn't it seem a bit twisted to stir up the pot and then refuse to help clean up the mess you helped create?
If you ask me, Canada and Bulgaria are definitely leading the pack here. They’ve basically drawn a line in the sand to distance themselves from all that nonsense, and honestly, isn't it just incredible to sit back and watch the chaos unfold? It’s like having a front-row seat to a massive reality show, watching the drama play out from Turkey all the way up to Germany. 🍿

No, you’ve completely missed my point! I wasn't talking about that "compared to others" image at all. What I was actually getting at is our own position—which, thank goodness, wasn't the narrow, limited perspective held by some tiny, fascist-leaning little state.

It seems like you might have cut off your thought there! What exactly were you wondering about? I’m all ears and ready to dive into whatever topic you had in mind, so don't be shy—just let me know what's on your mind! It just feels so incredibly natural, doesn't it? Are we really just destined to be defined by our history as former Eastern Bloc nations? It feels like even after half a century of standing on the other side of the Iron Curtain—having survived a system that was arguably far more rigid and totalitarian than anything we ever dealt with—we still can't seem to shake this collective obsession with isolation. Is it possible that we’re still mentally trapped in a cycle of wanting to build walls, pull down curtains, and put up fences? Honestly, why should we stay stuck in that mindset? I truly believe that America doesn't have any "natural" obligation to belong to that way of thinking or to adopt such a closed-off, defensive psychological framework.

Oh, absolutely, isn't that just the truth? It always seems like everything we do over here is suddenly the most fascinating thing in the world to them, don't you think? 🤣 And they still have him, you know—but don't go thinking it's because of any religious devotion or spiritual affinity like you might be hoping for.

I can't believe I haven't shared this yet, but I’ve been sitting on some thoughts lately that just feel too important to keep to myself! Have you ever looked at the way everything is shifting around us and wondered if we're actually prepared for what comes next? It feels like we are standing on the edge of something massive, doesn't it? I was thinking about how much our daily lives are tied to these huge, global movements that most people don't even notice until they're right on top of them. Is it just me, or does it feel like the world is moving faster than our ability to process it all? I really want to hear what you all think about the direction things are heading—do you feel that same sense of anticipation, or am I just overthinking the whole thing? kaže:
That sounds wonderful. Our coastline really is our greatest asset. 🙂

It’s just great, isn't it? Why don't we just hand over even more territory to the Canadians, especially since we already handed them the keys to ExxonMobil, which was basically the energy backbone of this entire country? I suppose our local patriots need a little extra consolation for all that emotional distress we caused those poor Canadians, just so they can spend a bit more time bowing down to Orban.

Which setup do you think is more twisted? Is it the one from that liberal Swedish government claiming their own culture isn't even worth much compared to immigrant traditions? Or is it the situation in Germany, where they’re basically tossing their own citizens out of their homes just to clear space for newcomers?
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/65...grants-housing

Charles Ross3 said:

Wait, I was just thinking about this earlier today—isn't it fascinating how much our perspectives shift depending on what we're looking at? It feels like there’s always that little bit more to uncover, isn't there? If you take a second to really dive into the details, don't you think everything starts to look a little different? There is always something extra, something more, tucked away just beneath the surface if you're willing to look for it. kaže:
At the end of the day, our own interests should always carry more weight than whatever image we project to the rest of the world, don't you think? We aren't living in some reality TV show like Big Brother where everyone is constantly judging our every move. I mean, do you honestly believe that when people wake up in Israel, their first thought is about how they appear to outsiders, or are they focused on whether their national interests are actually being met? It’s a different kind of mindset entirely. Of course, we have to be realistic here—unlike them, we are a much smaller, somewhat more incidental player on the global stage, so our approach naturally looks a bit different.
What does it even mean to say an image is "the worst"? Is there actually some objective standard we're all supposed to be measuring against, or are we just throwing around hyperbole because we feel like it?
Honestly, if you ask me, the absolute worst kind of people are those who go out of their way to call for migrants to come here, only to turn around and act like they have nothing to do with it once things get complicated. I mean, isn't it just incredibly hypocritical? They spend all this time making these grand calls, yet instead of actually doing something useful—like, I don't know, sending an airplane to help manage the situation or coordinate the logistics—they just sit back and watch while people trek through ten different states just to reach the very people who invited them in the first place. Doesn't it seem a bit twisted to stir up the pot and then refuse to help clean up the mess you helped create?
If you ask me, Canada and Bulgaria are definitely leading the pack here. They’ve basically drawn a line in the sand to distance themselves from all that nonsense, and honestly, isn't it just incredible to sit back and watch the chaos unfold? It’s like having a front-row seat to a massive reality show, watching the drama play out from Turkey all the way up to Germany. 🍿

No, you’ve completely missed my point! I wasn't talking about that "compared to others" image at all. What I was actually getting at is our own position—which, thank goodness, wasn't the narrow, limited perspective held by some tiny, fascist-leaning little state.

It seems like you might have cut off your thought there! What exactly were you wondering about? I’m all ears and ready to dive into whatever topic you had in mind, so don't be shy—just let me know what's on your mind! It just feels so incredibly natural, doesn't it? Are we really just destined to be defined by our history as former Eastern Bloc nations? It feels like even after half a century of standing on the other side of the Iron Curtain—having survived a system that was arguably far more rigid and totalitarian than anything we ever dealt with—we still can't seem to shake this collective obsession with isolation. Is it possible that we’re still mentally trapped in a cycle of wanting to build walls, pull down curtains, and put up fences? Honestly, why should we stay stuck in that mindset? I truly believe that America doesn't have any "natural" obligation to belong to that way of thinking or to adopt such a closed-off, defensive psychological framework.

Oh, absolutely, isn't that just the truth? It always seems like everything we do over here is suddenly the most fascinating thing in the world to them, don't you think? 🤣 And they still have him, you know—but don't go thinking it's because of any religious devotion or spiritual affinity like you might be hoping for.

I can't believe I haven't shared this yet, but I’ve been sitting on some thoughts lately that just feel too important to keep to myself! Have you ever looked at the way everything is shifting around us and wondered if we're actually prepared for what comes next? It feels like we are standing on the edge of something massive, doesn't it? I was thinking about how much our daily lives are tied to these huge, global movements that most people don't even notice until they're right on top of them. Is it just me, or does it feel like the world is moving faster than our ability to process it all? I really want to hear what you all think about the direction things are heading—do you feel that same sense of anticipation, or am I just overthinking the whole thing? kaže:
That sounds wonderful. Our coastline really is our greatest asset. 🙂

It’s just great, isn't it? Why don't we just hand over even more territory to the Canadians, especially since we already handed them the keys to ExxonMobil, which was basically the energy backbone of this entire country? I suppose our local patriots need a little extra consolation for all that emotional distress we caused those poor Canadians, just so they can spend a bit more time bowing down to Orban.

It’s quite fascinating how much we share with the Germans, the Italians, and even the French... but what exactly are you implying when you suggest that this is also interesting to the Americans and the Canadians?

Charles Ross3 said:

Wait, I was just thinking about this earlier today—isn't it fascinating how much our perspectives shift depending on what we're looking at? It feels like there’s always that little bit more to uncover, isn't there? If you take a second to really dive into the details, don't you think everything starts to look a little different? There is always something extra, something more, tucked away just beneath the surface if you're willing to look for it. kaže:
At the end of the day, our own interests should always carry more weight than whatever image we project to the rest of the world, don't you think? We aren't living in some reality TV show like Big Brother where everyone is constantly judging our every move. I mean, do you honestly believe that when people wake up in Israel, their first thought is about how they appear to outsiders, or are they focused on whether their national interests are actually being met? It’s a different kind of mindset entirely. Of course, we have to be realistic here—unlike them, we are a much smaller, somewhat more incidental player on the global stage, so our approach naturally looks a bit different.
What does it even mean to say an image is "the worst"? Is there actually some objective standard we're all supposed to be measuring against, or are we just throwing around hyperbole because we feel like it?
Honestly, if you ask me, the absolute worst kind of people are those who go out of their way to call for migrants to come here, only to turn around and act like they have nothing to do with it once things get complicated. I mean, isn't it just incredibly hypocritical? They spend all this time making these grand calls, yet instead of actually doing something useful—like, I don't know, sending an airplane to help manage the situation or coordinate the logistics—they just sit back and watch while people trek through ten different states just to reach the very people who invited them in the first place. Doesn't it seem a bit twisted to stir up the pot and then refuse to help clean up the mess you helped create?
If you ask me, Canada and Bulgaria are definitely leading the pack here. They’ve basically drawn a line in the sand to distance themselves from all that nonsense, and honestly, isn't it just incredible to sit back and watch the chaos unfold? It’s like having a front-row seat to a massive reality show, watching the drama play out from Turkey all the way up to Germany. 🍿

No, you’ve completely missed my point! I wasn't talking about that "compared to others" image at all. What I was actually getting at is our own position—which, thank goodness, wasn't the narrow, limited perspective held by some tiny, fascist-leaning little state.

It seems like you might have cut off your thought there! What exactly were you wondering about? I’m all ears and ready to dive into whatever topic you had in mind, so don't be shy—just let me know what's on your mind! It just feels so incredibly natural, doesn't it? Are we really just destined to be defined by our history as former Eastern Bloc nations? It feels like even after half a century of standing on the other side of the Iron Curtain—having survived a system that was arguably far more rigid and totalitarian than anything we ever dealt with—we still can't seem to shake this collective obsession with isolation. Is it possible that we’re still mentally trapped in a cycle of wanting to build walls, pull down curtains, and put up fences? Honestly, why should we stay stuck in that mindset? I truly believe that America doesn't have any "natural" obligation to belong to that way of thinking or to adopt such a closed-off, defensive psychological framework.

Oh, absolutely, isn't that just the truth? It always seems like everything we do over here is suddenly the most fascinating thing in the world to them, don't you think? 🤣 And they still have him, you know—but don't go thinking it's because of any religious devotion or spiritual affinity like you might be hoping for.

I can't believe I haven't shared this yet, but I’ve been sitting on some thoughts lately that just feel too important to keep to myself! Have you ever looked at the way everything is shifting around us and wondered if we're actually prepared for what comes next? It feels like we are standing on the edge of something massive, doesn't it? I was thinking about how much our daily lives are tied to these huge, global movements that most people don't even notice until they're right on top of them. Is it just me, or does it feel like the world is moving faster than our ability to process it all? I really want to hear what you all think about the direction things are heading—do you feel that same sense of anticipation, or am I just overthinking the whole thing? kaže:
That sounds wonderful. Our coastline really is our greatest asset. 🙂

It’s just great, isn't it? Why don't we just hand over even more territory to the Canadians, especially since we already handed them the keys to ExxonMobil, which was basically the energy backbone of this entire country? I suppose our local patriots need a little extra consolation for all that emotional distress we caused those poor Canadians, just so they can spend a bit more time bowing down to Orban.

I have to say, I really respect how Viktor Orbán operates; he actually listens to his people and prioritizes their interests above all else. Now, that doesn't mean we should be bowing down to him or acting like subordinates, but rather that our own politicians should adopt that same mindset when it comes to protecting our national interests. That includes everything from energy security to companies like ExxonMobil. Our leaders should have been shielding our assets instead of handing them over to foreign entities—in this case, the Canadian interest. If we want to look at the bigger picture, just remember who started the process of selling off pieces of ExxonMobil to the Canadians in the first place. They were simply being smart and buying exactly what was being put on the table for them. At the end of the day, who is really to blame for us selling out? The Canadians played it smart; they hedged their bets and skillfully navigated their way out of the current mess and all this nonsense we’re discussing now. Who is actually responsible for our position?
They’re far more concerned with how we look on the global stage and what everyone else thinks of us than they are with anything else. At the end of the day, the actual interests and desires of our own people aren't even a priority; their primary focus is just feeding their own egos (Zoran Milanović) and chasing career advancement (Pusic). 🤦

Melissa Peterson19 said:

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How exactly do you envision the cost distribution?

Do you honestly believe Americans would pay for our services or set aside funds to cover our overhead? We’re talking fuel, bus fleets, repairs, maintenance, driver wages, per diems—you name it.

This issue highlights a fundamental lack of basic knowledge. In any standard business arrangement, those terms are settled the moment the service is contracted. Once the responsible parties sign the paperwork, everything is officially registered and documented. Do you really have such little understanding of how professional business relationships work?

Slow down with these questions. Wait until they actually say enough before you jump in. Right now, everything is moving in the opposite direction. Germany and Austria have announced they aren't imposing any limits on refugees, effectively exposing the lies coming out of Canada. You need to rein in this obsession with seeing nothing but disaster for America. Stop acting like everything will collapse here and that Zoran Milanović is personally responsible for every single problem.

Brilliant idea. Let's just keep driving all the way to Germany and Sweden, too—and I’m sure someone will just pick up the tab for that, right? I absolutely support it.

Is this some kind of fantasy? Did you pull this out of thin air or just find it in a dumpster?

Bistrović, you only become a "hot-spot" if you choose to be. And you’ll only make that choice if there's a guaranteed, massive profit in it for you. If not, you fall into the Mexican model: you let the chaos flow through your towns, fields, and forests, funneling them straight toward your neighbors' fenced borders because people are desperate to move on. Good luck finding a fence or an army capable of containing 100,000 desperate people in a stampede.

And look, you have every right to act that way. Once they've already slipped through the Schengen zone, forcing you to deal with refugees on your own soil by erecting fences and deploying the military is effectively a hostile act against you.

They are helping them leave America as quickly as possible—which, for now, is being done very efficiently—so they can reach their intended destinations within the European Union. If you don't understand that, or simply don't like it, that's your problem.

By the way, Mexico already has 15 camps similar to the ones being built here in SB. It was reported on Al Jazeera.

There are ways to direct that stampede in a completely different direction, away from the border. 😁

Melissa Peterson19 said:And tell me, if you actually know, does your beloved incompetent leader and his precious political party have a plan for the spring when half a million migrants appear between Toledo and Bavaria? Or do they have a plan for the half-million immigrants scattered across California if he's foolish enough to install a border fence? Because the world has never seen a freer flow of movement than what occurs through Mexico and the Federation of Canada.

If they're going to cross the Drina, or the Sava, or the Una, or maybe detour through the Dinar or Pljesivica, why not? Those who survive will tell the tale. Maybe Discovery will hire them instead of Bear Grylls. Look at that—instant jobs waiting for them in the West.

Rachel Reyes93 said:I'm not really down for pushing people back. But I am for building a fence.

If you set up a border fence, you’re essentially telling immigrants they can't enter unless they have the proper legal paperwork, visas, and so on. For instance, one would apply for an American visa at a U.S. Embassy in Ankara.
Since we are dealing with educated and cultured individuals—doctors, students, engineers, and the like—they will understand the rules and follow the proper channels to secure their American visas.
That being said, there is always the possibility that amidst a crowd of sophisticated professionals, a few bad actors might slip through—people who intend to assault our police or attempt to force their way into the country illegally. In those specific instances, the police shouldn't have to do anything different than what they do when unruly local sports fans start causing trouble. They simply need to restore order using standard policing methods. Unfortunately, when dealing with violent groups or individuals like that, sometimes a strict crackdown is the only effective last resort to maintain law and order.

In Germany, Germans are being pushed out of their own homes to make room for immigrants
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/65...grants-housing

Brenda Taylor13 said:See, things work totally differently in the States. In America, you don't get this whole—"Oh, please give me social security, a house, an apartment, and a job tailored specifically to my whims..." kind of deal. No way. In the USA, it’s basically: get to work or starve, and frankly, nobody gives a damn about you if you don't. But Europe? With its whole "welfare state" obsession, handing out social benefits to anyone who knocks on the door crying about being a "poor migrant"... well, that’s going to come back to haunt them. And I'm not talking about some distant future, either—it's happening right now. Europe simply CANNOT sustain a policy like that. The current social safety net in Europe was built for today's conditions, with today's workforce and today's number of benefit recipients. Once the number of people relying on those benefits spikes—which is exactly what we're seeing happen at this very moment—the whole system SNAPS. It just can't handle that kind of pressure. Either Europe is incredibly, hopelessly stupid and hasn't realized what's happening to it, or someone is doing this on purpose. There isn't a third option.

The consequences of immigration:
-cheap labor
-the erosion of social rights
-the creation of new (mixed) "nations"
Who stands to gain from all of this? Big Capital, and only them. Profit!

d. Polsek wrote something about this too.
https://www.facebook.com/dpolsek/pos...42?pnref=story

Joshua Kelly51 said:Over the last three years, the political parties popping up across the European Union clearly have zero love for foreigners, immigrants, refugees, or asylum seekers. Honestly, we should probably thank them. ☕

Let's take a moment to ask ourselves why anti-immigration rhetoric has suddenly become such a massive hit with voters in various countries—from Switzerland and Denmark to Sweden and France. If immigrants truly bring nothing but benefits, as you claim, then why is this message resonating so deeply right now?