Posts by wiredmarlin20

Kyle Nelson2 said:Plastic—specifically PVC—isn't biodegradable. It takes about 500 years to break down in nature. But let's say the water actually speeds that process up and it only takes 50 years. An average bottle weighs about 50 grams.
That would be roughly 1 gram per year. So, if you store it for a month, you're looking at 0.1 grams per 2 liters, which works out to about 0.005 grams per deciliter...

If I had to try and estimate how much volume that is (since I don't know the exact density of PVC per cubic centimeter), let's just assume it's similar to the weight of water. So, 10 cc³ is about 1 liter or 1000 grams.
10 cc³/20 = 0.5 cc³ = 500 mm³ (which is the volume of the bottle).
If the bottle breaks down over 50 years, that means about 0.2% of the bottle dissolves every month.
500 * 0.2% = 1 mm³ for the whole 2-liter bottle, or about 0.05 mm³ per deciliter of water.

So, in a worst-case scenario, we’re talking 0.05 mm³ of dissolved PVC per deciliter if the water sits for a month and the bottle decays in 50 years (instead of 500). Honestly, I think it’d be closer to 0.03 mm³ max.
Just for context, a grain of cornmeal or wheat grits is usually around 0.15–0.3 mm³.

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Everything you said is technically true, but it's also true that if you leave water in a plastic jug for a certain amount of days, it picks up a plastic taste (not a smell). Your math suggests there’s nothing to fear regarding ingesting dissolved (decomposed) plastic, but when it comes to the flavor... do the experiment yourself!

I know this because whenever I head out to the mountains in the Midwest, I fill up four 10-15 liter jugs of water that I know is top-tier, but I have to pour some into glass bottles just so it doesn't end up tasting like plastic.

Kyle Nelson2 said:If PVC or whatever polymer they use actually messed with the taste, then every single bottle of flashy water out there would taste bland as hell.

Look, if you leave water in a 10-liter plastic jug, it’s going to taste like plastic.
We’ve been over this—run an experiment if you don't believe me!

It's the same deal with standard plastic bottles, it just takes longer. Like, water sitting in a big jug for a week? It starts getting that slight plastic hit...

Kyle Nelson2 said:Okay... so was that actually an argument for being afraid of bad water, or against it?
(I mean, great, if it's being tested on the EPA level)

As for the corrosion thing...
I'll ask around tomorrow to see what those pipes are actually made of, but don't you think that if they were just basic iron, they'd start rusting way faster in a municipal system? I guess the combination of dissolved oxygen and chlorine would pretty much speed that process right up.

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They listed everything under the sun!

Regarding corrosion...
I'll ask the crew tomorrow what the pipes are actually made of, but don't you think standard water main pipes would rust way too fast if they were just plain iron? That mix of dissolved oxygen and chlorine would speed things up big time.

The plumbing inside buildings is iron, but the stuff underground isn't—it's some kind of plastic. I saw them installing it (black and blue color), and I know my water tasted like plastic or rubber for about six months straight...🤮

No clue what the old pipes were before these new ones went in!

Kyle Nelson2 said:Metal isn't even soluble in water by default.

And what is lead if not a metal? It’s in the water. It didn't get there because we're out here tossing fishing weights into the lake; it comes from standard pollutants leaching into the groundwater.
Iron is soluble—corrosion happens!

Let me rephrase: we're talking about heavy chemical elements that are definitely not meant to be part of the human body!

Since December 8, 2003, the Environmental Protection Agency's Water Testing Department has been accredited under ISO/IEC 17025 standards to test the following indicators in drinking, groundwater, and surface water using these specific methods:

* determination of dissolved anions (fluoride, chloride, nitrate, nitrite, bromide, phosphate, orthophosphate, and sulfate) via ion chromatography (ISO 10304-1:1998)
* determination of dissolved cations (ammonium, sodium, potassium, calcium, magnesium, lithium) via ion chromatography (ISO 14911:2001)
* determination of metals and metalloids:
o total chromium (ISO 1233)
o copper (ISO 8288)
o iron (DIN 38406-32)
o lead (ISO 5961)
o cadmium (ISO 5961)
o manganese (DIN 38406-33)
o arsenic (ISO 11969)
o mercury (ISO 1483:1998)
* determination of anionic surfactants via methylene blue index:
o anionic detergents (ISO 7875/1:1998)
* determination of lipophilic substances and hydrocarbons:
o total oils (DIN 38409:1971 H18)
o mineral oils (DIN 38409:1981 H18)
* determination of triazine herbicides:
o atrazine (ISO 11369 n 1997 (E))
o desethyl atrazine (ISO 11369 n 1997 (E))
o simazine (ISO 11369 n 1997 (E))
o prometon (ISO 11369 n 1997 (E))
o propazine (ISO 11369 n 1997 (E))
o terbutryn (ISO 11369 n 1997 (E))
* determination of aromatic hydrocarbons:
o BTEX (ISO 1123-2:1997)
o benzene (ISO 1123-2:1997)
o toluene (ISO 1123-2:1997)
o ethylbenzene (ISO 1123-2:1997)
o xylene (ISO 1123-2:1997)
o styrene (ISO 1123-2:1997)

For wastewater, they are authorized to test these indicators using the mentioned methods:

* determination of chemical oxygen demand (COD) in concentration ranges above 15 mg O2/L (DIN 38409 T41:1996)
* determination of nitrogen by Kjeldahl—mineralization method with selenium (DIN EN 25663:1993)
* metals and metalloids:
o total chromium
o copper (ISO 8288)
o lead (ISO 8288)
o cadmium (ISO 8288)
o mercury (ISO 1483:1998)

SOURCE:
http://www.publichealth-chicago.gov/ma...d=27&Itemid=64

Kyle Nelson2 said:The water changes color during electrolysis because of the chlorine levels in there..
It could also shift color due to limescale buildup, but let's be real, limescale isn't actually harmful

If you're still skeptical, I guess you could try this: just grab 5 liters of water and boil it until it all evaporates... then you can see whatever gunk is left at the bottom... it's the simplest experiment you can do

I don't care about chlorine or limescale. I'm talking heavy metals and how much of them are actually in our drinking water... just the way water travels through old pipes can contaminate it before it even reaches you.

What’s the deal with Nobel and their water testing? Are they just selling snake oil...

They swung by my place the other day. Their rep did some electrolysis thing on my water—it turned pitch black, looked greasy as hell, and smelled pretty nasty too!

Asking because I was actually thinking about installing one of their units!

northernmarlin79 said:So here’s a quick little update for you guys—I decided to try some Guaraná yesterday on a totally full stomach... it actually kicked in after about two hours... and man, I felt absolutely wired and super energized... the only real bummer was that my focus just wasn't quite there—like, I’d be reading stuff but my eyes would just kind of skim right over the pages, so that was definitely a downside... but when it comes to crushing fatigue and that pure rush of energy, it honestly totally delivers.

Guaraná is caffeine-based, so it's easy to see why. Your concentration tanked because you had nothing left in the tank to work with... grab some B-complex from Nature Made, and some Leciton too!

cosmiccanyon15 said:I don't really care much about diet. Every morning at school I just grab a ham and cheese sandwich with ketchup. Lunch is usually fries, beans, peas, spinach, or chicken most days. Dinner is just sandwiches with tea or some spread, whatever. I drink milk, water, and those store-bought multivitamins juices.

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Walter Smith8 said:Sweet, thanks for the links! 👍 🙏

Here’s my current lineup:

soy Leciton
omega 3
guarana

Can I stack all of this at once? 😁

I know—I'm a total mess. 😢

Sure you can, they aren't harmful... but look, supplements alone won't fix you. There's no magic pill for motivation... unfortunately!

Set a daily routine—work, studying, whatever—and force yourself to stick to it strictly for maybe 2-3 weeks. Once your body adjusts to the new rhythm, the focus issues will settle down.

Personally, I get about 6-7 hours of sleep. I occasionally take a multivitamin or B-complex, hit the bike, and lift weights (lol, hey, exercise helps concentration). I don't struggle with focus. When I have to tackle something boring—school, college, work—it really just comes down to motivation and then focus. Either find something interesting in what you're reading or just grit your teeth and power through so you can go out and party without the guilt!

Just try to be disciplined about following the schedule you set for yourself based on your own needs. It gets easier after that...

PS: Discipline only applies to weekdays, obviously. Weekends have never heard of order or discipline....

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@Austin Martinez7

What books have you read about saplings? I'm asking because I've got this massive stretch of land out in Montana—about 370 acres—but I'm clueless about which species can actually handle the climate there. If you've got any book recommendations, let me know...

I'm looking into large timber, like oak or walnut...specifically stuff with detailed planting guides, root structures, and info on the best soil types for growth!

Jeffrey Martinez12 said:Hi,
Could you please tell me where walnut wood is paying $1,000? Does that price refer to raw logs or processed boards? Is this firsthand information or just an assumption?
My grandfather has 15 old walnut trees behind his house, and I am wondering who to sell them to.

Regarding the original topic, I believe it is absolutely more profitable to invest money in land—even an empty field—than to put it into some investment fund that will only double your money after 20 years.
If we are talking about walnut trees intended for nut production, I absolutely support the idea and wish you the best.
Thank you for the response.

I'm thinking processed logs!

Prices fluctuate constantly, but $1,000 +/- $50 is pretty standard per cubic yard globally—though it depends on the variety. American black walnut is cheap because the quality isn't great... high-quality domestic walnut is highly valued...

The main thing for those 15 trees behind your grandad's place is their age. If they're too old, the wood rots from the inside, and you lose a ton of usable volume. Talk to an arborist about the quality and the specific breed!

Watched a movie yesterday. It's basically a carbon copy of LOTR....

The main difference? In LOTR, Frodo knows he's a weakling. In Eragon, the lead is just some metrosexual poser acting like he's Aragorn...

It's an okay watch, I guess, but if you're a fan of Lord of the Rings, prepare to be disappointed... they even ripped off the names...

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What does "adequate staffing" even mean? And how are you supposed to prove it?

What do you think? Doctors...

If they confirm someone's in a coma in both those high-profile cases, then yeah, forced feeding definitely needs to be on the table.

Quincy:

Look, I’m telling you, the defendant absolutely has the (moral) right to refuse food. The real question is just where we draw the line on that right.

They have the right to refuse food right up until they aren't thinking straight anymore—basically, until hunger starts messing with their head...

If medical staff determines the person can't make rational decisions anymore, then the fast has to end and they need to start force-feeding...

Butterfly Night said:Does life start at conception or birth?

From birth... basically once the kid actually arrives. If an ultrasound shows the baby has some terminal condition where they aren't going to survive infancy, then abortion should be advised as the best path forward...

I support abortion. Not because doctors tell me to, just because that's what I believe.

Justin Thomas11 said:I'm allergic to dust mites too. Went to see an allergist at the Mayo Clinic, did skin tests and blood work for total IgE. Turns out I'm positive for both dust mites and grass. My doctor suggested desensitization therapy, though I haven't started it yet.
It works like this: for the first 2 or 3 weeks, you get shots twice a week. Then for the next 2 or 3 weeks, it's once a week. After that, it's twice a month, and eventually just once a month.
Best bet is to see an allergist so they can find the right treatment for you.

Desensitization has about a 70% success rate. You have to stick to it consistently for a long time—at least a year—which is a massive pain. Plus, my doctor warned me about risks like developing arrhythmias or asthma... she told me this after I dealt with ragweed allergies. Not that it's the same as dust mites, since those bastards are around you 365 days a year.

I actually cleared my allergies with Reiki. Don't ask me how or why, but it worked. It's funny because some doctors claim it's just "powerful autosuggestion," but that's nonsense. Autosuggestion has its limits; it can't cure an allergy.

PS: Reiki isn't a 100% guarantee either... but at least it’s cheaper than desensitization... and way less of a hassle!

Later!

Brandon Thomas89 said:Doesn't matter if they were cold. One water was heat-treated and the other wasn't. 👍

True, we gotta rule out thermal processing as the culprit. Let's heat both leads to the same temp using different methods—microwave vs. oven.

Thanks...

Brandon Thomas89 said:Look, the experiment was flawed. One water source was heated to 100°C while the other wasn't. He needs to redo it—heat one in a microwave, the other on a stove, let them both cool down, then water the plants.

Both waters were cold...

I'll redo it!
Setting up three groups of three plants each:

a) Group one - distilled (won't matter much, doesn't kill them, just slows growth)
b) Group two - water from the oven (cooled down from about 100°C)
c) Group three - water from the microwave (same as b)

In 2-3 weeks, I'll see results. Might even prove which water kills the plant and which doesn't... depends on the species, obviously...

placidfalcon said:There are cases where people follow a macrobiotic diet for years and still end up getting it.

Even modern medicine can't pinpoint cancer causes with total certainty... we know there's a genetic predisposition, sure, but that doesn't mean every descendant is doomed to get a tumor!
Take tar, for example—it causes lung cancer. But the percentage of susceptibility is basically the same for smokers and non-smokers. Why? Because non-smokers spend half their lives as passive smokers. You can't isolate smoking as the sole cause of lung cancer, otherwise how would you explain the cases in rural areas of Montana where people have never touched a cigarette?

Microwaves might cause tumors, but only through direct contact with an organ... which is impossible with a microwave. I already said this in my last post!
I don't think microwaving food is good, but I have no clue how much it actually harms humans. I do know it's devastating for plants, though...

I'm running the same experiment right now (see my previous post) using a boxwood plant. It's incredibly hardy and survives drought or pretty much any hardship... so, we'll see!