Hell no. My first post was being sarcastic, but I guess some people missed the joke. I actually picked up on that from your post, though. I had no idea the divide started right then. See, that’s just more proof that the movie isn't trying to be descriptive or weighed down by any "outside" context.
What puzzles? What even is a puzzle? 😕 The story just flows—it's smooth, direct, and straightforward... definitely doesn't feel like some twisted noir or a non-linear mess.
And why is everyone acting shocked that a high schooler was seeing a twelve-year-old?! I mean, when I was fourteen, I was already hanging out with a college girl.
The movie has nothing to do with Hollywood. There’s zero generalization or stereotyping going on here. Every single person in the skinhead subculture is an individual; they’re all different, and they’re all at a totally different stage when it comes to racism. A character is only as developed as the writing allows, making them unique from everyone else. There isn't a single trope in sight. And clichés? Forget about it.
What a load of social commentary nonsense! The film is just socially conscious. It doesn't actually describe any socio-political context of the era or location. It’s just a montage of war footage, streets in Chicago, and Thatcher set to the soundtrack of the time. The music is killer and fits perfectly, but it doesn't really drive the plot.
swiftsurfer27 said:For two thousand years, the United States stood tall, but let’s be real—we were also busy grabbing everything we could get our hands on wherever we landed. Now that all that wealth is finally sitting right here at home, people from all those places are showing up to claim what’s rightfully theirs. Isn't that just how the cycle goes?
The movie offers such a cool look at social issues that we're seeing more and more in "developed nations"... and honestly, isn't it just a matter of time before it hits home here in the States?
Who are you trying to lecture about United Kingdom history anyway? 😕
Do we look like some bunch of brainless skinnies to you?
This kind of stuff is already happening right here in the States. Isn't it? Listening to that politician felt just like listening to those old-school Republicans back in the day, including Sanders. Ever had that feeling? And today it's just the far-right party and some minor players. Who else shows up? Even their catchphrases are exactly the same. Copycats, right? Just swap out England for America. Simple enough, right?
It’s just one specific angle—basically looking through the eyes of the characters themselves. Quick little spoiler alert: we're talking about the most extreme guy in the bunch here, and I actually pulled part of the description straight from a candidate's campaign speech. The absolute worst part? They were basically brainwashing a twelve-year-old kid.
Anyway, there’s a tragedy near the end that, despite being awful, actually ends up having a positive impact on the main character.
I kept it vague so I wouldn't spoil it for you, but hopefully, that's enough to get you interested...
It’s a movie about loving your country; a movie about patriotism. A story about various Pakistanis, Black people, and similar groups coming to the US and taking jobs from Americans. For two thousand years, America stood proud, and now it's being threatened by all sorts of early immigrants who don't even follow the Anglican faith. Nowadays, it's a disgrace to be an American in the US. Even saying the word "America" feels forbidden. Everyone says it with fear. All these patriots get labeled as Nazis, when they’re really just fighting for their homeland. The American flag is practically banned in the States.
A film about fearless guys who carry their country in their hearts and minds, ready to lay down their lives for the nation. It's about a boy who sacrificed everything for his country, and how he gets insulted by various non-Americans because of his father's death. A story about a little boy with a huge heart who deeply misses his fallen father, leaving him without guidance. He lives with his mom, but he needs a father figure. So, a brave patriot—a warrior for America just like his dad—takes him under his wing. He shows him the right path and gives him the courage to stand up against the insults from Pakistanis, Jews, and others who are causing the crisis in the US.
lonelynx16 said:Honestly, questions like these give me the creeps. They’re always born from some kind of rushed, half-baked logic and usually end up being nothing more than pure scholasticism—you know, just endless, useless mental gymnastics that don't actually lead anywhere!
Andrew Ramos10 said:I find myself watching things just because I have some downtime on my hands sometimes... To be honest, I used to be glued to the TV constantly, until the realization hit me that it was all essentially the same old formula. It’s always one of two extremes: either there's a happy ending, or there isn't. But at the end of the day, there has to be some kind of narrative driving it all. That's why I've found that documentaries are actually my absolute favorite...
If you define voyeurism that way, then every intellectual pursuit is just voyeurism.
Since people pick up books for the exact same reasons they sit down to watch a movie, and I’m not just talking about fiction here, but even non-fiction, because anyone reading a textbook is essentially "peeping" into an author's mind—their thoughts, their logic, and their conclusions.
By that logic, science itself is pure voyeurism. We want to know how long it takes a car to get from New York to Los Angeles at a certain speed over a specific distance. We study evolutionary biology to track the history of a species, which is basically invading their "privacy." Even botany and zoology spend their time spying on their "subjects" from birth until death. Then there's astronomy, spying on stars and planets and their "private" lives... where they move, what they do, what they are... Meteorologists spy on whether folks in Chicago are going to get soaked by rain or if they'll be freezing on the streets and needing to crank up the heat... And economics? It peeps right into people's wallets—what they buy, what they splurge on, and how much they're willing to pay for stuff... etc., etc.
So, movies aren't anything special; they're just as voyeuristic as everything else mentioned. They aren't more or less than any other art form, and art isn't more or less than science itself...
rapidcobra59 said:Are we all just watching movies because we're closet voyeurs? I mean, isn't that exactly what Tomislav gotovac was getting at in PEEPING TOM... or am I totally off base here?
I watch movies because I'm curious about: other people's takes their life experiences how they interpret things
And by "other people," I mean the characters, the writers, and the directors too.
When I look at all those different views and stories:
It makes me question my own logic. Am I actually being objective? How much am I missing out on in my own life compared to what I see on screen?
If that makes me a voyeur, then yeah, call me one. 😎
wearytinker8 said:Well, look at you go. That might actually be the only movie out there—besides "Guinea pig"—where the entire plot is basically just someone getting tortured. It’s pretty much the same vibe as "Swimming with sharks," where some kid gets bullied so hard by his boss (that unforgettable Spacey performance) that he decides the only solution is to kidnap him and take his revenge.
Never actually seen that one, but the whole setup reminds me of do Koska.
Yeah. Like that movie with Sylvester Stallone and that Black guy? Actually, some part of that film really did come true—cameras are everywhere now, and I even heard there's a small town in Vegas where they have sensors that trip an alarm if you so much as sneeze or something!
Nathan Myers28 said:It’s kind of funny when you look back at the timeline—Predator 2 was actually filmed in 1990, even though the movie itself is set in 1997! It's one of those little cinematic quirks that always makes me smile.
Fair enough, I was actually thinking of a more serious movie.