Sex and grammar?!? Seriously?
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I don't get this thread!
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Edward Gonzalez said:drunk, "dangerous" teenagers!
Are you actually suggesting he wasn't intoxicated?
Do you even have children?
If that kid had struck him first...
Would you be making excuses for this kind of behavior then? Or would you be out there attacking the police for failing to react properly?
I mean, look at Naples, Italy—they have peaceful protests where people see God in those teenagers, yet they don't deal with armed robberies like we do here. I read about "long guns" being pulled on the streets in Washington, D.C. every single day...
If your police force didn't resort to such heavy-handed tactics, maybe these problems wouldn't exist. Otherwise, things are just going to keep getting worse and worse...
Edward Gonzalez said:Quincy:The strike always goes for the chin because that’s what immediately incapacitates someone. You learn that during your very first self-defense training session in the police academy. Having worked with the LAPD, I know how it works.
Of course I’d defend her, but it’s not like I’d be swinging my fists or elbows wildly. There are much more effective ways to handle things. Besides, given that I outweigh him by about 60 pounds and have a good four inches on these "attackers," it wouldn't take much effort to de-escalate the situation properly.
Quincy:Care to explain exactly how you reached that conclusion?
Look, man, I’m just going to say it: you are being an absolute idiot.
Quincy:Based on what I know and what’s been reported, he’s a highway patrol officer. He pulled over a vehicle that was doing 100 mph on a slick road, and the driver was drunk... it's a textbook scenario.
I don't think I am, actually. I come from similar professional circles where we understand there are various ways to resolve a conflict without anyone getting hurt. And honestly, I find it hard to believe that some guy who's 5'9" and maybe 150 pounds—especially while intoxicated—could pose any real threat to my girlfriend, let alone a trained officer standing 6'3" and weighing over 220 pounds.
Sarah Wilson75 said:How would you even react if someone just blindsided you with a punch? You can't exactly control that surge of pure rage. It doesn't matter if they were actually a threat or not; you just can't have people attacking or disrespecting a police officer.
Look, I'm not taking sides here.
I'm just firmly on the side of heavy fines.
Edward Gonzalez said:Quincy:The kid died. He made the right call in how he assessed the scene. What was he supposed to do, just stand there and take a beating? He didn't have any other options; he evaluated the threat. The rule is to use the minimum amount of force necessary, but you can't exactly defend yourself more easily by refusing to use your own strength. He can't use a baton, and he can't reach for handcuffs if he's actively being attacked... Honestly, at this rate, it feels like they'd rather just shoot him so everyone can stop worrying. I think you've got it wrong.
I think the kid is dead.
Look, there are plenty of ways an officer can defend themselves without resorting to physical strikes, but it seems like some American officers just don't have those de-escalation tactics down. That officer should have read the room and assessed the situation differently, but clearly, his judgment was flawed, and we're all seeing the tragic result of that mistake right now.
Edward Gonzalez said:Personally, after I finished my time at the seminary, I spent some time out in the Netherlands and ended up filing a report with their local police. They don't mess around. People there are actually intimidated by the cops. I honestly don't get why that officer would go through all that trouble if he hasn't actually done anything wrong.
Edward Gonzalez said:I was recently watching some footage of a police officer striking a young man—and since I’m not currently in the States, I don't have all the granular details. The kid falls, hits his head on the concrete, and dies, leaving everyone pointing fingers at the officer for overstepping his bounds. Now, I’m not looking to assign blame here; I’m just curious about the narrative being spun. Is it just me, or is nobody mentioning that the kid was intoxicated? Or that he was reportedly speeding down an icy road at 100 mph? No one seems to bring up the fact that he was being verbally abusive, aggressive, and actually initiated the physical confrontation. It makes sense that the officer defended himself. My guess is he went for the jaw—that's where you typically strike to neutralize a threat quickly. He wasn't going to play games; he had to incapacitate him. And let's be honest: the cause of death was the impact with the pavement, not the strike itself.
Look at what happens during those massive protests in cities like Chicago or New York, where special units might get aggressive with protesters. You see kids getting hit with batons or knees to the ribs, yet the headlines immediately scream "police brutality" and "excess of power." If one of those kids ends up on the ground after a pursuit, suddenly the fault lies entirely with the officers for failing to stop them sooner. It seems to be a pattern. At the end of the day, I respect our law enforcement and believe they are doing their jobs under incredibly difficult circumstances.
Edward Gonzalez said:I was recently watching some footage of a police officer striking a young man—and since I’m not currently in the States, I don't have all the granular details. The kid falls, hits his head on the concrete, and dies, leaving everyone pointing fingers at the officer for overstepping his bounds. Now, I’m not looking to assign blame here; I’m just curious about the narrative being spun. Is it just me, or is nobody mentioning that the kid was intoxicated? Or that he was reportedly speeding down an icy road at 100 mph? No one seems to bring up the fact that he was being verbally abusive, aggressive, and actually initiated the physical confrontation. It makes sense that the officer defended himself. My guess is he went for the jaw—that's where you typically strike to neutralize a threat quickly. He wasn't going to play games; he had to incapacitate him. And let's be honest: the cause of death was the impact with the pavement, not the strike itself.
Look at what happens during those massive protests in cities like Chicago or New York, where special units might get aggressive with protesters. You see kids getting hit with batons or knees to the ribs, yet the headlines immediately scream "police brutality" and "excess of power." If one of those kids ends up on the ground after a pursuit, suddenly the fault lies entirely with the officers for failing to stop them sooner. It seems to be a pattern. At the end of the day, I respect our law enforcement and believe they are doing their jobs under incredibly difficult circumstances.
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