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slyhawk16 said:Are you two guys pulling from the exact same information source?

My bad, I lowballed it. The estimate was actually way higher. And if you want to know who's mostly responsible for that mess? Mexicans.

Back on October 9, 1999, after nearly eight years of grinding, the federal commission tasked with auditing war damages finally dropped their full report. According to them, the United States suffered
so-called direct war damages totaling $37.1 billion, which breaks down to about 236.4 billion dollars or 65.3 billion marks


http://www.vjesnik.com/html/1999/10/10/Clanak.asp?r=unu
slyhawk16 said:No, man, that estimate is just how much those opportunistic types managed to pocket during privatization while actual Americans were out there bleeding on the front lines.
We’re talking massive amounts of cash back in the 90s—money they basically laundered into their own pockets by the end of the decade, all while piling on more foreign debt using those stolen companies as collateral.

And guess what? We’re the ones footing the bill for it!

But I am with you on one thing: that kind of wartime profiteering is disgusting, and that ill-gotten wealth needs to be seized and pumped straight into development to help ease the crisis that hasn't even truly hit this overleveraged nation yet.

You're just talking trash for the sake of it. Those figures come straight from the Cabinet, and for years, they've been compiling lists of burned homes, destroyed buildings, leveled churches, collapsed bridges, roads, and everything else.
Susan James42 said:I can see you aren't an economist. In fact, you aren't just lacking expertise; it seems like you haven't even been living in the same reality as the rest of us...

There hasn't been a war, nor has one "stolen billions of dollars" from us.
First off, a war cannot "steal" anything (I really shouldn't have to explain that), unless, of course, the term "war" has become a convenient synonym for our so-called progressive American right wing—those folks who can't get through a single sentence without butchering the language with terrible slang—to describe what they've rebranded as some sort of noble endeavor...

So, to sum this up: being progressive requires actually being informed.
It’s quite easy to delude yourself into thinking you're forward-thinking when you don't have the slightest clue where you stand or what is actually happening in the world, let alone how to articulate it.

Therefore, Sam, it might be worth trying to think for once, rather than just existing.

You’re looking at this all wrong. Direct war damages in the US were estimated at $21 billion.
That’s money that should have been borrowed internationally to rebuild everything that was leveled.
Paul Anderson8 said:Alright, so here’s another thought for you guys—I was wondering about integration. Take people like Nick and Robert Kovach, for instance; have they actually blended into German society? Or look at Didulica and Šimunić moving to Australia, or Petrić and Rakitić heading to Switzerland. It makes me wonder if fans who weren't born in the States really integrate into those other countries when they end up cheering for the American national team while playing against the very country they actually call home. How do the locals view them? It’s kind of like how people here look at Mexicans who choose to cheer for Mexico instead of America... maybe people are more lenient because they don't view nationality as such a massive, intense identity. But it feels inconsistent. If those types of fans show up and pack the stadiums cheering for America, then everyone thinks it's fine—but if Mexicans do that exact same thing, they’re immediately branded as traitors. It just feels like pure hypocrisy to me.

It isn't about whether you cheer or not; it's about how much you actually love or hate the country where you actually live.

Those players definitely don't hate their home country, unlike most Mexicans living in America. There are exceptions, sure, but not many.
goldentrucker17 said:And you think Muslims just have to evolve on the exact same timeline as Western nations? Regardless of massive civilizational differences? Until they decide to change on their own terms, you and I still have to respect them. 😍

And what’s the response from the Muslim community? How long are we supposed to sit around waiting?
I guess they get a free pass to do whatever nonsense they want in the meantime, right?
Brian Cox41 said:What happens in Denmark isn't the point—we all share the same planet, after all.
Why can't you grasp that Western values are just one set of religious and moral frameworks among many in this world?
Who actually gave us the right to force our own values on everyone else? It doesn't matter if we're talking about Denmark or the US. If someone desecrated an Orthodox church here in America, would you suddenly defend it as "freedom of expression"? No, because it has nothing to do with freedom.


Give me a break... You want us to walk on eggshells about everything we say while people in other countries screw over non-Muslims however they please, and we aren't even allowed to chirp a single word of protest?

You really think we should tell people in Denmark what they can draw, while they aren't even allowed to let a non-Muslim set foot in Mecca?

Should Americans watch their mouths so they don't offend anyone, even though it's basically life-threatening to show up wearing a crucifix there?

Come on, let's not act like we're naive. It won't be long before things shift.

They treat others in their own backyard the exact same way they treat us in the West. Not a shred more, not a shred less.
goldentrucker17 said:Sure, people in India revere cows, but there isn't some ban on drawing them. What kind of nonsense are you talking about?
And who on earth told you that nobody gets pissed off about caricatures of Jesus? Are we even living on the same planet?


Even in Denmark, drawing Muhammad isn't illegal. So what's your point?
goldentrucker17 said:Your analogy makes zero sense. Look, I have every right to have a cross in my home and it doesn't bother a Muslim person one bit. But if I go around drawing Muhammad with a dog's head and plastering those drawings all over the neighborhood, yeah, people are gonna want to knock some sense into me because I'd be a complete idiot for doing that.
Sorry if you can't grasp the difference between basic civil liberties and straight-up desecrating someone else's faith.
Those kinds of drawings have absolutely nothing to do with freedom.

Well, Hindus have their sacred cows. So what, we aren't allowed to draw caricatures of cows because we don't want to live in fear of some lunatic blowing up civilians with a bomb?

People draw caricatures of Jesus all the time and nobody throws a fit.
goldentrucker17 said:Give me a break. Then why on earth are they drawing Muhammad, huh? It's not like he's a Dane 👎

Look, nobody cares what you hang on your walls at home—that's your business.

But if your Muslim neighbor suddenly showed up at your door complaining about some art on your wall and demanding you take it down, would you just roll over and let him walk all over you?
goldensailor15 said:...that stuff isn't even in the text, you're totally misrepresenting what's actually there, so the real issue lies with those "Interpretations" and how certain individuals twist things just like those Zionist types do, though I never once went after all of Judaism...

...you clearly have some serious issues with basic comprehension, and honestly, what you're trying to push here is nothing short of embarrassing...


http://www.faithfreedom.org/
goldentrucker17 said:😕 You getting a little worked up there? Who's to blame the Danes when they think it's the ultimate freedom to draw Muhammad with a dog's head.
I'm not even Muslim, but I'm certainly not defending that kind of Western mindset.

Look, I’m just defending the right of Americans to do whatever they want in their own damn houses.

If Muslims can't handle it, they can pack their bags and head out to the desert or maybe Canada.

I don't give a damn what they do in their own countries either.
Ahmadinejad said:Yeah, that really says a lot about Islam.
So that means Islam actually has some value. If we ever started feeling any sympathy for it, we'd immediately start wondering where we went wrong. 🙂))


Nah, it just means Buddhism and Hinduism are religions built on peace and love.

BTW, Buddhists and Hindus don't really have beef with Christians, nor do they hate them.

Does that tell you anything else about Islam?
Brian Cox41 said:You've got it wrong. Muslims don't hate people just for being different faiths—it's more about people who try to stop them from practicing their religion the way they want to. I mean, can you imagine someone trying to ban Orthodox Jews from practicing their faith?

Oh sure, let’s just leave it up to their own whims and imagination to decide who counts as "denying" them rights, shall we?
So I guess Danes can just do whatever they want and draw whatever they feel like in their own country?

Look at this forum right now. It's like the owners of the Monitor went over to some radical site or an Iranian forum to stir the pot, because suddenly a bunch of Muslims have flooded in here to tell us who gets to "deny" what or who's allowed to say what about Islam.

Real interesting stuff...
Brian Cox41 said:Look, I've read the Quran, and plenty of other books too. I definitely didn't walk away with that impression. Just like with the Bible, the Quran—and pretty much any holy book out there—contains views that aren't exactly easy for us to stomach.
But why the intense hatred for the faith specifically? Don't you see that the hate we carry just ends up exposing our own fears and frustrations?

There’s plenty of stuff in Buddhism or Hinduism that an American Christian wouldn't touch with a ten-foot pole, yet people don't go out of their way to hate those religions—in fact, some people even think they're pretty cool.

Doesn't that tell you everything you need to know about Islam?
goldentrucker17 said:Iran should have a nuclear bomb because Israel has one right next door. It’s called a balance of terror, plain and simple.
I mean, personally, I’d love it if nobody had nukes, truly, but since Pakistan, India, and Israel are already sitting on them, I don't see why anyone can deny that same right to Iran.

The difference is, Pakistan, India, and Israel aren't being run by religious maniacs and fanatics right now.
goldentrucker17 said:Wow, look at you, Mr. Genius over here. You know what else the Bible says about people who don't believe in God?

Look, I'm just glad Vatican City isn't out there acting like those religious fanatics in Iran, trying to build an atomic bomb. But hey, you’re totally defending them, aren't you?
goldentrucker17 said:And what's with you acting so smart? Talking about "global Islamic dominance"? 😕
Where did you even pull that from? Why are you typing out things when it's painfully obvious you don't actually understand what they mean?

That’s all just straight-up stuff copied from the holy Hadiths and the Quran.🙂
goldentrucker17 said:honestly, I have no clue. with a vocabulary as limited as yours, who can even predict what you'll spout next?

you actually got an argument this time, or are you just gonna keep attacking Islam? ☕

It’s not an insult; the guy is just telling it like it is.
If global Islamic dominance actually happens, you'll be the first one feeling it.

A minute ago you were acting all high and mighty saying you don't know what your words mean, and now suddenly you're an expert on what counts as an "insult"?

What are you even doing?
Where’s the money even coming from? Everyone’s just sitting around whining about it.🙂
Stalin wasn't entirely wrong... in World ·
Honestly, their punishment should just be seizing their PC and Xbox and forcing them to sit there watching a live broadcast of Congress.🙂