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Sam Garcia10 Sam Garcia10 MemberOP
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#1 ·
Here is the reality—leftist parties just can't seem to win in major urban hubs like San Francisco, Charleston, San Diego, Indianapolis, Columbus, or Pittsburgh... those areas are essentially strongholds for the American right. Meanwhile, cities like Seattle and Washington, D.C. remain firmly under Democratic control.

One of the most prominent leftist politicians in America is also arguably the biggest populist in the country—and he frequently leans into chauvinism—Damir Kajin. Populism is defined by building a cult around "the people" while hunting for enemies to blame, which is exactly how Kajin operates. Between his rhetoric regarding "New York City" and his comments about how certain regions aren't quite like California, Sinji, or Canada—it borders on chauvinism.

And this is how the Democrats search for enemies too—by targeting "corrupt Republican strongholds," their "200 families," or their "fake defenders." Here is an excellent example of populist rhetoric. Their arguments against political rivals usually boil down to phrases like "200 families," "gerrymandered districts," "a stolen nation," "orchestrated wars," or "international isolation"—all empty slogans. They conveniently—whether by design or accident—ignore the corruption within the leftist parties themselves. Why is that?
Matthew Evans17 Matthew Evans17 Newcomer
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#2 ·
I believe you have completely missed the mark here. Previously, I would have argued that more progressive or highly educated individuals tend to lean toward the center-left (though certainly not the rigid far-left). If we are going to discuss Damir Kajin and chauvinism, then we absolutely have to bring up names like Djapic, Hebrang, Ante Kovacevica, and Vice Vukojevica—the list of such characters is endless. That said, I get the impression you only brought this topic up to be provocative, though perhaps I am mistaken..?
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Sam Garcia10 said:Here is the reality—leftist parties just can't seem to win in major urban hubs like San Francisco, Charleston, San Diego, Indianapolis, Columbus, or Pittsburgh... those areas are essentially strongholds for the American right. Meanwhile, cities like Seattle and Washington, D.C. remain firmly under Democratic control.

One of the most prominent leftist politicians in America is also arguably the biggest populist in the country—and he frequently leans into chauvinism—Damir Kajin. Populism is defined by building a cult around "the people" while hunting for enemies to blame, which is exactly how Kajin operates. Between his rhetoric regarding "New York City" and his comments about how certain regions aren't quite like California, Sinji, or Canada—it borders on chauvinism.

And this is how the Democrats search for enemies too—by targeting "corrupt Republican strongholds," their "200 families," or their "fake defenders." Here is an excellent example of populist rhetoric. Their arguments against political rivals usually boil down to phrases like "200 families," "gerrymandered districts," "a stolen nation," "orchestrated wars," or "international isolation"—all empty slogans. They conveniently—whether by design or accident—ignore the corruption within the leftist parties themselves. Why is that?

What those cities are primarily lacking, though, is a true sense of urban sophistication...
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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#4 ·
Sam Garcia10 said:Here is the reality—leftist parties just can't seem to win in major urban hubs like San Francisco, Charleston, San Diego, Indianapolis, Columbus, or Pittsburgh... those areas are essentially strongholds for the American right. Meanwhile, cities like Seattle and Washington, D.C. remain firmly under Democratic control.

One of the most prominent leftist politicians in America is also arguably the biggest populist in the country—and he frequently leans into chauvinism—Damir Kajin. Populism is defined by building a cult around "the people" while hunting for enemies to blame, which is exactly how Kajin operates. Between his rhetoric regarding "New York City" and his comments about how certain regions aren't quite like California, Sinji, or Canada—it borders on chauvinism.

And this is how the Democrats search for enemies too—by targeting "corrupt Republican strongholds," their "200 families," or their "fake defenders." Here is an excellent example of populist rhetoric. Their arguments against political rivals usually boil down to phrases like "200 families," "gerrymandered districts," "a stolen nation," "orchestrated wars," or "international isolation"—all empty slogans. They conveniently—whether by design or accident—ignore the corruption within the leftist parties themselves. Why is that?

And yet, Washington, D.C. is the largest city in the Republic of America, packed with the most experts and professionals...

Given that Washington, D.C. is the capital of such a centralized state, it stands to reason that the city is naturally more dominant...

And the Democrats won there... which doesn't exactly square with your theory, does it?

Out of the cities you mentioned, compared to Seattle and Washington, D.C., the only actual major city is St. Louis... maybe San Diego if you're stretching it...

Columbus and Pittsburgh definitely don't count as major metropolitan spheres...

Plus, the Republican Party youth wing recently showed some serious progress in Columbus...

So, what exactly are you basing this entire argument on?
Sam Garcia10 Sam Garcia10 MemberOP
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Matthew Evans17 Asks:
I think you've completely missed the mark here—though, if I'm being honest, I might have even said they were... It seems—and I say this with a certain degree of hesitation—that there is a noticeable trend where more highly educated individuals tend to align themselves with the left-leaning political spectrum. It’s an observation I've made quite often lately—though, of course, one shouldn't overgeneralize. ...not exactly a rigid left wing, right?

I laid out the cities, provided the link, and even gave a detailed breakdown of that one politician—so, what exactly are you using to back up your claims?
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Matthew Evans17 said:I believe you have completely missed the mark here. Previously, I would have argued that more progressive or highly educated individuals tend to lean toward the center-left (though certainly not the rigid far-left). If we are going to discuss Damir Kajin and chauvinism, then we absolutely have to bring up names like Djapic, Hebrang, Ante Kovacevica, and Vice Vukojevica—the list of such characters is endless. That said, I get the impression you only brought this topic up to be provocative, though perhaps I am mistaken..?

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So, where did everyone go? It’s funny—while Damir Kajin is serving as a representative, these people act like he's some kind of president—even though they’re really just on the fringes. And what exactly was the chauvinistic comment Hebrang made?
Matthew Evans17 said:I believe you have completely missed the mark here. Previously, I would have argued that more progressive or highly educated individuals tend to lean toward the center-left (though certainly not the rigid far-left). If we are going to discuss Damir Kajin and chauvinism, then we absolutely have to bring up names like Djapic, Hebrang, Ante Kovacevica, and Vice Vukojevica—the list of such characters is endless. That said, I get the impression you only brought this topic up to be provocative, though perhaps I am mistaken..?

The title is definitely provocative—I’ve noticed quite a few people making those kinds of claims.It seems that highly educated individuals tend to gravitate toward the left—a trend we see quite often in the US. And so on—honestly, I just didn't see the logic in any of it—which is exactly why I decided to start this thread.
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Sam Garcia10 said:
Matthew Evans17 Asks:
I think you've completely missed the mark here—though, if I'm being honest, I might have even said they were... It seems—and I say this with a certain degree of hesitation—that there is a noticeable trend where more highly educated individuals tend to align themselves with the left-leaning political spectrum. It’s an observation I've made quite often lately—though, of course, one shouldn't overgeneralize. ...not exactly a rigid left wing, right?

I laid out the cities, provided the link, and even gave a detailed breakdown of that one politician—so, what exactly are you using to back up your claims?
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So, where did everyone go? It’s funny—while Damir Kajin is serving as a representative, these people act like he's some kind of president—even though they’re really just on the fringes. And what exactly was the chauvinistic comment Hebrang made?

The title is definitely provocative—I’ve noticed quite a few people making those kinds of claims.It seems that highly educated individuals tend to gravitate toward the left—a trend we see quite often in the US. And so on—honestly, I just didn't see the logic in any of it—which is exactly why I decided to start this thread.

Because half those cities you mentioned wouldn't even hold a candle to San Francisco, let alone Washington, D.C....
Sam Garcia10 Sam Garcia10 MemberOP
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Adam Collins4 said:And yet, Washington, D.C. is the largest city in the Republic of America, packed with the most experts and professionals...

Given that Washington, D.C. is the capital of such a centralized state, it stands to reason that the city is naturally more dominant...

And the Democrats won there... which doesn't exactly square with your theory, does it?

Out of the cities you mentioned, compared to Seattle and Washington, D.C., the only actual major city is St. Louis... maybe San Diego if you're stretching it...

Columbus and Pittsburgh definitely don't count as major metropolitan spheres...

Plus, the Republican Party youth wing recently showed some serious progress in Columbus...

So, what exactly are you basing this entire argument on?

We might not know exactly how the experts are leaning, but we certainly know who's running the show in Washington, D.C.


Adam Collins4 said:And yet, Washington, D.C. is the largest city in the Republic of America, packed with the most experts and professionals...

Given that Washington, D.C. is the capital of such a centralized state, it stands to reason that the city is naturally more dominant...

And the Democrats won there... which doesn't exactly square with your theory, does it?

Out of the cities you mentioned, compared to Seattle and Washington, D.C., the only actual major city is St. Louis... maybe San Diego if you're stretching it...

Columbus and Pittsburgh definitely don't count as major metropolitan spheres...

Plus, the Republican Party youth wing recently showed some serious progress in Columbus...

So, what exactly are you basing this entire argument on?

Why skip over St. Louis? If San Diego is being considered for that list—which, fair enough—then why isn't Pittsburgh included? San Diego might be fifth, but Pittsburgh is the sixth largest city in America.

Adam Collins4 said:And yet, Washington, D.C. is the largest city in the Republic of America, packed with the most experts and professionals...

Given that Washington, D.C. is the capital of such a centralized state, it stands to reason that the city is naturally more dominant...

And the Democrats won there... which doesn't exactly square with your theory, does it?

Out of the cities you mentioned, compared to Seattle and Washington, D.C., the only actual major city is St. Louis... maybe San Diego if you're stretching it...

Columbus and Pittsburgh definitely don't count as major metropolitan spheres...

Plus, the Republican Party youth wing recently showed some serious progress in Columbus...

So, what exactly are you basing this entire argument on?

They’ve basically hit rock bottom—right where the Democrats were on election night. 😁
Sam Garcia10 Sam Garcia10 MemberOP
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#8 ·
Adam Collins4 said:Because half those cities you mentioned wouldn't even hold a candle to San Francisco, let alone Washington, D.C....

What makes Cleveland so special, though?
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#9 ·
Sam Garcia10 said:We might not know exactly how the experts are leaning, but we certainly know who's running the show in Washington, D.C.

Why skip over St. Louis? If San Diego is being considered for that list—which, fair enough—then why isn't Pittsburgh included? San Diego might be fifth, but Pittsburgh is the sixth largest city in America.

They’ve basically hit rock bottom—right where the Democrats were on election night. 😁

Because even San Diego is a tiny town compared to Washington, D.C....

And what’s so special about Rhode Island... the industry, the local vibe... plenty of people would tell you that Rhode Island is the most well-rounded city in the whole US...

No, they didn't just "lower themselves" to anyone's level—they dropped straight into the basement. And since when did someone else's stupidity become a valid excuse for your own?

When you're drunk, shouting extremist slogans, insulting people's fathers, and then running from the cops—where was your old man then?—and then you have the nerve to grill innocent patrons at a bar about where they were during the Revolution... well, that’s even stupider than some mindless singing from the Mississippi River all the way up to Mount Denali...

Especially when it's coming from a twenty-four-year-old with nothing more than a high school diploma, yet somehow manages to hold nearly ten different political positions...
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Sam Garcia10 said:Here is the reality—leftist parties just can't seem to win in major urban hubs like San Francisco, Charleston, San Diego, Indianapolis, Columbus, or Pittsburgh... those areas are essentially strongholds for the American right. Meanwhile, cities like Seattle and Washington, D.C. remain firmly under Democratic control.

One of the most prominent leftist politicians in America is also arguably the biggest populist in the country—and he frequently leans into chauvinism—Damir Kajin. Populism is defined by building a cult around "the people" while hunting for enemies to blame, which is exactly how Kajin operates. Between his rhetoric regarding "New York City" and his comments about how certain regions aren't quite like California, Sinji, or Canada—it borders on chauvinism.

And this is how the Democrats search for enemies too—by targeting "corrupt Republican strongholds," their "200 families," or their "fake defenders." Here is an excellent example of populist rhetoric. Their arguments against political rivals usually boil down to phrases like "200 families," "gerrymandered districts," "a stolen nation," "orchestrated wars," or "international isolation"—all empty slogans. They conveniently—whether by design or accident—ignore the corruption within the leftist parties themselves. Why is that?

What exactly are you basing that on?
Here are some examples of those "right-wing strongholds" you mentioned:

Philadelphia: Democrats 11,778, Republicans 13,439

Syracuse: Democrats 9,928, Republicans 9,412

Pittsburgh: Democrats 10,398, Republicans 11,279

St. Louis: Democrats 17,078, Republicans 13,689

San Francisco: Democrats 35,102, Republicans 39,187

Venice: Democrats 7,071, Republicans 8,039

San Diego: Democrats 12,023, Republicans 16,028

In some places the Republicans won, and in others the Democrats did, but since the margins are so slim, isn't it true that the massive turnout in Washington, D.C. (89:62) more than makes up for it?

P.S.
My apologies, I completely slipped my mind! According to your specific definition, aren't Washington, D.C., Seattle, Miami, and Cleveland just not considered urban centers?
Sam Garcia10 Sam Garcia10 MemberOP
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#11 ·
Adam Collins4 said:

Because even San Diego is a tiny town compared to Washington, D.C....

And what’s so special about Rhode Island... the industry, the local vibe... plenty of people would tell you that Rhode Island is the most well-rounded city in the whole US...

No, they didn't just "lower themselves" to anyone's level—they dropped straight into the basement. And since when did someone else's stupidity become a valid excuse for your own?

When you're drunk, shouting extremist slogans, insulting people's fathers, and then running from the cops—where was your old man then?—and then you have the nerve to grill innocent patrons at a bar about where they were during the Revolution... well, that’s even stupider than some mindless singing from the Mississippi River all the way up to Mount Denali...

Especially when it's coming from a twenty-four-year-old with nothing more than a high school diploma, yet somehow manages to hold nearly ten different political positions...
Because even San Diego is a tiny town compared to Washington, D.C....

And what’s so special about Rhode Island... the industry, the local vibe... plenty of people would tell you that Rhode Island is the most well-rounded city in the whole US...

No, they didn't just "lower themselves" to anyone's level—they dropped straight into the basement. And since when did someone else's stupidity become a valid excuse for your own?

When you're drunk, shouting extremist slogans, insulting people's fathers, and then running from the cops—where was your old man then?—and then you have the nerve to grill innocent patrons at a bar about where they were during the Revolution... well, that’s even stupider than some mindless singing from the Mississippi River all the way up to Mount Denali...

Especially when it's coming from a twenty-four-year-old with nothing more than a high school diploma, yet somehow manages to hold nearly ten different political positions...
A lot of people have told me Miami is the most complete city in America. But where does that "mindset" actually start and end? Is the vibe in Bakersfield or Newport really the same as it is in Cleveland, or is that a different story entirely? What defines this mentality—what are the actual examples of it? How exactly do people in Cleveland behave differently than folks elsewhere?

Adam Collins4 said:

Because even San Diego is a tiny town compared to Washington, D.C....

And what’s so special about Rhode Island... the industry, the local vibe... plenty of people would tell you that Rhode Island is the most well-rounded city in the whole US...

No, they didn't just "lower themselves" to anyone's level—they dropped straight into the basement. And since when did someone else's stupidity become a valid excuse for your own?

When you're drunk, shouting extremist slogans, insulting people's fathers, and then running from the cops—where was your old man then?—and then you have the nerve to grill innocent patrons at a bar about where they were during the Revolution... well, that’s even stupider than some mindless singing from the Mississippi River all the way up to Mount Denali...

Especially when it's coming from a twenty-four-year-old with nothing more than a high school diploma, yet somehow manages to hold nearly ten different political positions...
Because even San Diego is a tiny town compared to Washington, D.C....

And what’s so special about Rhode Island... the industry, the local vibe... plenty of people would tell you that Rhode Island is the most well-rounded city in the whole US...

No, they didn't just "lower themselves" to anyone's level—they dropped straight into the basement. And since when did someone else's stupidity become a valid excuse for your own?

When you're drunk, shouting extremist slogans, insulting people's fathers, and then running from the cops—where was your old man then?—and then you have the nerve to grill innocent patrons at a bar about where they were during the Revolution... well, that’s even stupider than some mindless singing from the Mississippi River all the way up to Mount Denali...

Especially when it's coming from a twenty-four-year-old with nothing more than a high school diploma, yet somehow manages to hold nearly ten different political positions...
To me, stupidity is just stupidity. You can hold ten different offices—it doesn't change the fact that I've only ever seen one level of intelligence here.
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Sam Garcia10 said:

Because even San Diego is a tiny town compared to Washington, D.C....

And what’s so special about Rhode Island... the industry, the local vibe... plenty of people would tell you that Rhode Island is the most well-rounded city in the whole US...

No, they didn't just "lower themselves" to anyone's level—they dropped straight into the basement. And since when did someone else's stupidity become a valid excuse for your own?

When you're drunk, shouting extremist slogans, insulting people's fathers, and then running from the cops—where was your old man then?—and then you have the nerve to grill innocent patrons at a bar about where they were during the Revolution... well, that’s even stupider than some mindless singing from the Mississippi River all the way up to Mount Denali...

Especially when it's coming from a twenty-four-year-old with nothing more than a high school diploma, yet somehow manages to hold nearly ten different political positions...
A lot of people have told me Miami is the most complete city in America. But where does that "mindset" actually start and end? Is the vibe in Bakersfield or Newport really the same as it is in Cleveland, or is that a different story entirely? What defines this mentality—what are the actual examples of it? How exactly do people in Cleveland behave differently than folks elsewhere?

Because even San Diego is a tiny town compared to Washington, D.C....

And what’s so special about Rhode Island... the industry, the local vibe... plenty of people would tell you that Rhode Island is the most well-rounded city in the whole US...

No, they didn't just "lower themselves" to anyone's level—they dropped straight into the basement. And since when did someone else's stupidity become a valid excuse for your own?

When you're drunk, shouting extremist slogans, insulting people's fathers, and then running from the cops—where was your old man then?—and then you have the nerve to grill innocent patrons at a bar about where they were during the Revolution... well, that’s even stupider than some mindless singing from the Mississippi River all the way up to Mount Denali...

Especially when it's coming from a twenty-four-year-old with nothing more than a high school diploma, yet somehow manages to hold nearly ten different political positions...
To me, stupidity is just stupidity. You can hold ten different offices—it doesn't change the fact that I've only ever seen one level of intelligence here.
Chairman of the County Youth Organization of the Republican Party... even if he isn't anymore... but he was

Chairman of the County Youth Organization of the Republican Party...

Member of the Republican Party of America presidency...

Councilman for the city of KLC

Councilman for the Schwarz district...

Member of the KLC City Sports Association

Member of the Administration at the IGK City Library...

Member of the County Youth Council...

So, you're saying you've only ever heard of one?🤣

On top of all that, he's the president of a TKD Club and the head of technical operations for a municipal company...

And honestly, trying to pinpoint exactly where one "mentality" begins and ends is just a clever little way to dodge the actual topic...

Let me ask you this—where were you when you were 24?

And stupidity isn't just stupidity...especially when you're throwing shade at where people were during the era of the Great Depression, while simultaneously attacking a veteran suffering from PTSD...that moves past mere stupidity... it's a whole new category entirely...
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Dana Robinson4 said:What exactly are you basing that on?
Here are some examples of those "right-wing strongholds" you mentioned:

Philadelphia: Democrats 11,778, Republicans 13,439

Syracuse: Democrats 9,928, Republicans 9,412

Pittsburgh: Democrats 10,398, Republicans 11,279

St. Louis: Democrats 17,078, Republicans 13,689

San Francisco: Democrats 35,102, Republicans 39,187

Venice: Democrats 7,071, Republicans 8,039

San Diego: Democrats 12,023, Republicans 16,028

In some places the Republicans won, and in others the Democrats did, but since the margins are so slim, isn't it true that the massive turnout in Washington, D.C. (89:62) more than makes up for it?

P.S.
My apologies, I completely slipped my mind! According to your specific definition, aren't Washington, D.C., Seattle, Miami, and Cleveland just not considered urban centers?

I was actually worried you were going to label me some kind of reactionary extremist, a radical, or maybe even an American...

Quincy:
here are your right-wing strongholds
Look, you don't live in the States—there's more than just two parties in America.

Portland, Oregon: Democrats 17,078, Republicans 13,689 Libertarians 10,581, Constitution Party 7,698
Syracuse: Democrats 9,928, Republicans 9,412 (followed by rural voters and the Constitution Party, then the retirees)

Stockton: Democrats 10,398, Republicans 11,279 Constitution Party 3,028, Libertarians 1,459 (the Greens are decent there with 2,273 votes, but the right still holds more sway)

Dana Robinson4 said:What exactly are you basing that on?
Here are some examples of those "right-wing strongholds" you mentioned:

Philadelphia: Democrats 11,778, Republicans 13,439

Syracuse: Democrats 9,928, Republicans 9,412

Pittsburgh: Democrats 10,398, Republicans 11,279

St. Louis: Democrats 17,078, Republicans 13,689

San Francisco: Democrats 35,102, Republicans 39,187

Venice: Democrats 7,071, Republicans 8,039

San Diego: Democrats 12,023, Republicans 16,028

In some places the Republicans won, and in others the Democrats did, but since the margins are so slim, isn't it true that the massive turnout in Washington, D.C. (89:62) more than makes up for it?

P.S.
My apologies, I completely slipped my mind! According to your specific definition, aren't Washington, D.C., Seattle, Miami, and Cleveland just not considered urban centers?

Whose side are you even on?

Dana Robinson4 said:What exactly are you basing that on?
Here are some examples of those "right-wing strongholds" you mentioned:

Philadelphia: Democrats 11,778, Republicans 13,439

Syracuse: Democrats 9,928, Republicans 9,412

Pittsburgh: Democrats 10,398, Republicans 11,279

St. Louis: Democrats 17,078, Republicans 13,689

San Francisco: Democrats 35,102, Republicans 39,187

Venice: Democrats 7,071, Republicans 8,039

San Diego: Democrats 12,023, Republicans 16,028

In some places the Republicans won, and in others the Democrats did, but since the margins are so slim, isn't it true that the massive turnout in Washington, D.C. (89:62) more than makes up for it?

P.S.
My apologies, I completely slipped my mind! According to your specific definition, aren't Washington, D.C., Seattle, Miami, and Cleveland just not considered urban centers?

Maybe try reading the post you're replying to before getting this worked up.
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Adam Collins4 said:Chairman of the County Youth Organization of the Republican Party... even if he isn't anymore... but he was

Chairman of the County Youth Organization of the Republican Party...

Member of the Republican Party of America presidency...

Councilman for the city of KLC

Councilman for the Schwarz district...

Member of the KLC City Sports Association

Member of the Administration at the IGK City Library...

Member of the County Youth Council...

So, you're saying you've only ever heard of one?🤣

On top of all that, he's the president of a TKD Club and the head of technical operations for a municipal company...

And honestly, trying to pinpoint exactly where one "mentality" begins and ends is just a clever little way to dodge the actual topic...

Let me ask you this—where were you when you were 24?

And stupidity isn't just stupidity...especially when you're throwing shade at where people were during the era of the Great Depression, while simultaneously attacking a veteran suffering from PTSD...that moves past mere stupidity... it's a whole new category entirely...

It wasn't my intention to derail the conversation—I actually find the idea quite fascinating. If someone claims there's a distinct mindset at play, surely there's a way to briefly describe how it manifests? You were the one who brought up the specific local mindset—the kind you associate with the strength of the liberal factions in a city like Seattle.
Frank Ramirez3 Frank Ramirez3 Member
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#15 ·
What’s actually the difference between the Republican Party and the Democratic Party? Honestly, none. It’s all a bit of a wash. Neither the Democrats are truly left-wing, and you can forget about calling the Republicans the right wing either. They’re both just centrist parties playing a game; the Democrats are maybe a tiny bit more on the left side of the aisle, but that’s about it.
Edward Young50 Edward Young50 Newcomer
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#16 ·
Well... I have to admit my heart's with the right side most of the time... though sometimes the left comes in handy when things get messy 🙂
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Tarzan;17045701 said:I listed the cities, provided the link, and even singled out a specific politician... so how exactly are you backing up your claims?
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And where are those people now? They’re just fringe outliers while Kajin holds office, yet his supporters act like he’s some kind of president... As for what Hebrang said regarding chauvinism...

Hebrang claimed that if the professor's daughter hadn't landed a job in Sanders's office, she would have been discriminated against. Honestly, he's easily the most pathetic politician since Pašalić...
Robert Booth38 Robert Booth38 Member
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#18 ·
Edward Young50 said:Well... I have to admit my heart's with the right side most of the time... though sometimes the left comes in handy when things get messy 🙂

Honestly, you’re better off mixing it up—left, right, whatever. Or just lie on one side until it goes completely numb; once you lose all feeling, it doesn't even matter who's slapping you... at the end of the day, you're still getting hammered regardless of which side it comes from.
mistycyclist5 mistycyclist5 Active Member
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#19 ·
It’s actually quite the opposite... the left holds power in pretty much every major American city.

It's the exact same deal; you just have to adapt to the circumstances so the crisis doesn't hit you where it hurts. ☕
Steven Garcia3 Steven Garcia3 Newcomer
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#20 ·
It’s an objective reality that in our most powerhouse, top-tier US cities—places that operate on a completely different level than everywhere else—the liberals hold the reins. And if you look at the actual progress made, most of the heavy lifting happens under their watch. People keep voting them in, too. I mean, it’s probably not because they’re doing a bad job.
The fact is, the most prosperous regions in America are consistently led by liberals, and voters keep picking them. It’s not like they're failing.
Look at the global stage: the most advanced nations are increasingly leaning toward left-leaning leadership.

On the flip side, the conservatives tend to run the show in the poorest, most struggling parts of the country, where you see much lower percentages of middle-class and college-educated residents.
Basically, the areas in America with the lowest standards of living are the ones constantly voting for the right.
The pattern holds: conservative parties usually hold power in countries facing major struggles and those with low levels of higher education.

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