The Ides of March (2011)
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Kimberly Anderson22 said:Thanks for the info.
It makes sense, I guess, but the reality is that neither Duffy nor anyone else could have really known if Stephen was doing anything behind Paul's back. At the end of the day, maybe it was just the fact that Paul's phone was unreachable that stopped Stephen from letting him know Duffy had reached out for a drink.
It’s just hard for me to wrap my head around why Stephen wouldn't have followed up that conversation with a meeting invite after Paul called him. I mean, seriously? What exactly is he gaining by keeping things under wraps like that? I guess there might be some reason, maybe, but it just seems... off.
If I recall correctly, Stephen's chat with Duffy happened right after that Paul-Thompson meeting, so I guess Stephen wouldn't have had his info ready for him just yet.
This info should be pretty useful for Morris's team once they sit down to talk. They finally figured out exactly what Duffy's offer for Thompson looks like, and honestly, it seems like there's practically no downside at all. I guess it's a clean deal.
Well, look—Duffy was gambling and he won... he didn't know what would happen, when, or if at all, and honestly, Stephen didn't tell his colleagues anything either; he just put money on the table and figured if he won, great, and if not, then nobody gets anything.
Kimberly Anderson22 said:Thanks for the info.
It makes sense, I guess, but the reality is that neither Duffy nor anyone else could have really known if Stephen was doing anything behind Paul's back. At the end of the day, maybe it was just the fact that Paul's phone was unreachable that stopped Stephen from letting him know Duffy had reached out for a drink.
It’s just hard for me to wrap my head around why Stephen wouldn't have followed up that conversation with a meeting invite after Paul called him. I mean, seriously? What exactly is he gaining by keeping things under wraps like that? I guess there might be some reason, maybe, but it just seems... off.
If I recall correctly, Stephen's chat with Duffy happened right after that Paul-Thompson meeting, so I guess Stephen wouldn't have had his info ready for him just yet.
This info should be pretty useful for Morris's team once they sit down to talk. They finally figured out exactly what Duffy's offer for Thompson looks like, and honestly, it seems like there's practically no downside at all. I guess it's a clean deal.
He could have left a message, though. And even after the fact, he had the chance to mention it, so he didn't. At that moment, it wasn't some technicality preventing Stephen from telling Paul everything—it was just his own ego and a bit of bad timing.
Kimberly Anderson22 said:Thanks for the info.
It makes sense, I guess, but the reality is that neither Duffy nor anyone else could have really known if Stephen was doing anything behind Paul's back. At the end of the day, maybe it was just the fact that Paul's phone was unreachable that stopped Stephen from letting him know Duffy had reached out for a drink.
It’s just hard for me to wrap my head around why Stephen wouldn't have followed up that conversation with a meeting invite after Paul called him. I mean, seriously? What exactly is he gaining by keeping things under wraps like that? I guess there might be some reason, maybe, but it just seems... off.
If I recall correctly, Stephen's chat with Duffy happened right after that Paul-Thompson meeting, so I guess Stephen wouldn't have had his info ready for him just yet.
This info should be pretty useful for Morris's team once they sit down to talk. They finally figured out exactly what Duffy's offer for Thompson looks like, and honestly, it seems like there's practically no downside at all. I guess it's a clean deal.
Well, he was intrigued. He saw a young woman and got curious. He wanted to hear what Duffy had to say. Even if common sense told Stephen that showing up to the meeting wasn't exactly the best idea, his curiosity was piqued simply because the head of the opposition was scheduling a meeting in such a high-stakes, gambling sort of way. Duffy struck a chord and kept him interested enough to show up. Then, once he was there, Duffy starts showering him with praise—calling him a "top professional, capable, young, handsome, blah blah blah... and how all the competitors fear him"—and finally offers him a job transfer. It’s enough to make anyone's instincts go numb and drop their guard entirely.
To me, it seems perfectly plausible that a young, self-important little manager gets carried away and bites at the sweet words of an old pro, choosing to stay silent with his own people. We're all flawed creatures, I guess; no one is immune to flattery. Especially when that flattery is packaged nicely... you'll bite just like a fish.
Kimberly Anderson22 said:Thanks for the info.
It makes sense, I guess, but the reality is that neither Duffy nor anyone else could have really known if Stephen was doing anything behind Paul's back. At the end of the day, maybe it was just the fact that Paul's phone was unreachable that stopped Stephen from letting him know Duffy had reached out for a drink.
It’s just hard for me to wrap my head around why Stephen wouldn't have followed up that conversation with a meeting invite after Paul called him. I mean, seriously? What exactly is he gaining by keeping things under wraps like that? I guess there might be some reason, maybe, but it just seems... off.
If I recall correctly, Stephen's chat with Duffy happened right after that Paul-Thompson meeting, so I guess Stephen wouldn't have had his info ready for him just yet.
This info should be pretty useful for Morris's team once they sit down to talk. They finally figured out exactly what Duffy's offer for Thompson looks like, and honestly, it seems like there's practically no downside at all. I guess it's a clean deal.
Well, nothing concrete was actually settled during that initial meeting between Paul and Thompson—aside from the fact that the charade continues and they just kept testing each other. Paul merely had this impression that Thompson would offer his support, but that was just an impression; Thompson hasn't actually promised anything tangible. And Paul went into that follow-up meeting with Thompson at the exact moment Stephen withheld the news about the talk with Duffy—specifically, the info that Duffy's candidate offered Thompson the Secretary of State position. That information would have meant everything to Paul at that specific juncture.
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| Kimberly Anderson22 says: >> This intel is useful for Morris's team following the discussion, since they now know the scale of Duffy's offer to Thompson, and there's practically no downside. |
As for any actual benefit this info brings to Morris's campaign following the Paul-Thompson talk... well, not much. Since Thompson has an offer for Secretary of State from the rival camp, there is a strong possibility he's already lost to Morris—either because Morris can't or won't match such an offer—and now they face the added problem that Thompson knows their entire roadmap while playing for the opposition. I suppose the information would have been far more valuable to them prior to that meeting.
