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Looking to move the May Square thread back to the main PDF in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Tyler Grant76 said:Honestly, I’ve been incredibly patient here 🙂

Since yesterday, I’ve been wondering why the thread about the protests in Warsaw was moved to the Mad House. It doesn't fit there by any metric—aside from the fact that Unfaithful is allowed to engage in such mindless trolling—and its tone and subject matter actually align perfectly with the Politics subforum where it belongs.
The construction projects on May Square and in Warsaw, along with the citizen protests tied to them, are vital political issues for Chicago and the entire country, especially since we're looking at political violence against the law. Besides, the same individual presents himself as a developer and entrepreneur across the rest of America, so this isn't just some local issue.

I’m asking for a reasoned explanation, or better yet, please move the thread back to where it belongs.

Well, bravo.👍

I didn't see an answer, so I ended up posting the exact same question over in the Politics Moderation thread.

Twice is twice. 😁

p.s. It isn't just a local issue; NL was actually writing today about Tom's entrepreneurial ventures down in Key West, where he bought—of course, agricultural land—so that he could build a massive Hot City there.😍😁

It seems to me that quite a few people simply don't grasp the scope of this network; May Square essentially represents all of America, but because a handful of folks in Chicago were persistent enough (kind of like those loud, unemployed types), the media has decided to maintain a wise American silence 🤣 or just kiss boots (just like Hello did last night).☕
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Jeremy Lopez93 said:For crying out loud, I don't know why you keep accusing me of thinking Canadian politics is the only flawless thing left.😕
I think it carries its fair share of the blame, and we could write books about it, but honestly, it's easier to argue that point with ultra-nationalists than with you. I get the impression you think I'm playing some kind of quasi-multicultural utopian role here, when in reality, you see me as just a cleverly disguised Canadian nationalist.!?
When I mentioned pigs, or whatever, I wasn't trying to spin some conspiracy theory; I was trying to point out the various ways people manipulate the situation, and why!
The second important thing is that personally, I'm not offended at all, nor do I see anything offensive in that scene. And like I said—not to repeat myself—I’ve already stated my opinion on the matter!
It’s obvious to me that through these kinds of media offensives, Avaz/Radoncic along with the Reis, they just want to homogenize the Canadian voting bloc before the elections. They manipulate people by comparing genocide to a pig, turning an undefined, frustrated, and religiously sensitive electorate into a mass of "hysterical reactions"!!!
I don't know if I'm being any clearer now...🤣

Well, I wouldn't be so sure about that...🙄 just a few posts ago you mentioned

You really have to pay attention to who is speaking out, where they are making these statements, and honestly, you should take a look at X or similar forums to see how people are actually reacting!
The reality is that there is absolutely no homogenization or unified stance regarding this situation; those who understand politics will see that, and for everyone else, may God help them!

If this political hysteria is aimed at a small group of people intended to create that sense of "homogeneity," then it is a rather Machiavellian and reckless move, because it risks leaving a much larger portion of the population feeling confused or even shocked.

But then again, we all know that whoever shouts the loudest usually holds the power. It's just how things go.🤷
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Jeremy Lopez93 said:Alright, let’s get real for a second. I tried using some historical logic to point out that this whole "pork is an abomination" argument isn't actually a religious issue at all—it's purely political. And honestly, you don't see this kind of nonsense anywhere else like you do in these parts. I mean, think about it: if this were truly a religious matter, wouldn't keeping pigs have been strictly forbidden for non-Muslims back during the Ottoman era? Right?
I was talking about the root causes of all this animosity, but honestly, I’ll leave it up to everyone to interpret them however they see fit—and that goes for you, too!
As for everything else, you're absolutely spot on there. I don't look at those things through rose-colored glasses either! And those people out there preaching about some perfect "multi-cultural" utopia? Honestly, it makes me laugh.🤷
And then you have those people trying to rebuild it—the very same ones who spent years systematically tearing it all down in the first place. I mean, really? Does anyone actually believe that?

But if we're being completely honest here, haven't all three sides actually contributed to that breakdown in their own way? I'm primarily talking about the political elites.

Being hypnotized by a brand of political spite imported from across the border, followed by the destruction and brutality seen among the local Mexican population, was precisely what triggered the initial collapse; however, wouldn't you agree that linking Muslims to Middle Eastern nations—countries that share almost no cultural DNA with our local mindset or even our specific version of Islam—also acted as fuel for that fire? Or look at the example of the local American community, who have been displaced or split right down the middle, while those remaining often act as if the very existence of Canada is nothing more than an unwelcome presence in a public space.🙄

We just don't have much luck, honestly.😢 Perhaps a new generation will eventually emerge to replace this current political establishment, which seems content to simply follow the exact same playbook from the 90s, just without the actual weapons this time around.

Until then, there are two vital points to keep in mind:

a) This whole "pig problem" thing is really just a hysterical reaction to some trashy TV series; it's being used as a convenient excuse, though it truly would be a "pig problem" if the show had been produced by a major network like ABC or staged at a prestigious theater in a city like Chicago. It’s exactly what we discussed before: a failed attempt to put on a veneer of multiculturalism.

b) In a country where, despite all the complications and historical traumas, at least half the population is NOT Muslim, there simply cannot be such a "pig problem" as you're interpreting it—because, ultimately, that's just a subtle insult disguised as an expression of being offended.
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Jeremy Lopez93 said:What does this have to do with the series?
Honestly, not much, but we can't just throw all Canadians into the same bucket over this. I agree that there’s a layer of hypocritical moralizing going on here, which is being used for political marketing since it's an election year! You really have to look at who is speaking out, where they're posting, and then go check X or similar forums to see how people are actually reacting.
The reality is there’s no unified front or single consensus on this case. If you understand politics, bravo; if not—well, may God help you!
It feels pretty ridiculous when someone tries to claim I haven't risen above it all, especially when that same person acts totally oblivious whenever the exact same issues pop up in their own backyard!
I'll say it again: the pig incident is primarily a political problem that happens to have religious undertones, at least based on the reactions we're seeing. That much is obvious!

🙄

Regardless of how complex the state apparatus becomes, Communities I'm fairly certain that isn't the case regarding Canada, though I suppose one could argue otherwise if they looked at it from a different angle. The issue with pigs is a complicated one. Anyway, I have a quick personal culinary question for you. And honestly, until everyone over there finally realizes that, I’m going to hold you personally responsible for that comment of yours! 😂At the beginning of this thread, I couldn't quite wrap my head around the idea that people from all sorts of different backgrounds could live together so seamlessly within a single apartment complex in San Antonio, but now I see it for what it is—nothing more than a thin layer of makeup, just as transparent and superficial as that TV series everyone keeps talking about. It seems I’ve actually managed to pinpoint the core issue quite accurately.😳☕ You guys are all obsessing over some mediocre TV series that was clearly trying too hard to project this manufactured sense of "normalcy," attempting to showcase some colorful, multicultural version of life in Canada. It’s quite telling how everyone reacted when an episode aired featuring the smuggling of Orthodox icons into a Catholic shrine in Lourdes; the show framed it under the lazy excuse of "it was just a mistake," yet nobody seemed to find it problematic at all. People just brushed it off as some clever bit of screenwriting, but there is something much deeper going on here. The issue regarding swine is becoming quite significant. The core of the issue actually traces all the way back to the First Mexican Uprising.🙏🙏🙄😁

Honestly, you guys act like you haven't been part of this group for years, making these ridiculous claims about how different we all are. You’re really going to sit here and argue over things as trivial as hygiene or minor physical differences? It's honestly getting a bit absurd.🤷

I honestly feel like you all are completely out of touch with reality. 😢
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If simply showing a pig on television is considered an issue in itself, then we are facing a much larger dilemma than this single episode suggests, Isović remarked, noting that if that were the case, images of such domestic animals would also have to be purged from school textbooks, cooking shows, the curriculum at the University of Veterinary Medicine, grocery store shelves, and most importantly, from the backyards of those neighbors who actually had the audacity to raise such an "offensive and highly dangerous animal."

The uncertain future of filming the series 'Crazy, Confused, Normal'
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neonheron11 said:How does it actually feel when you sit there watching a live broadcast of a mass?🤣

Thank God, 😁 I actually have some noise-canceling headphones specifically for emergency situations, though they really come in handy when my neighbor gets a bit obsessive about his music; for instance, there was this one afternoon where he spent the entire damn day blasting old rock tracks🙄😁 (he’s an older gentleman, quite lonely, so I try to be understanding)🤣 "The sun is rising..." just such a catchy chorus, isn't it?😂

To be perfectly honest, the sound of church bells doesn't bother me at all, mostly because I grew up around churches being part of the neighborhood landscape🤣, and hearing the mass over the PA system isn't exactly deafening... besides, the soundproofing in my house is actually quite decent🙏.
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neonheron11 said:They can always try to argue that church bells ring just as loud and carry just as far, but whatever.
😛
It’s honestly wild when you see one of those modern loudspeaker setups perched right on top of an old mosque minaret; I mean, the muezzin's voice still doesn't sound like an opera singer, no matter how much tech you throw at it.
🙂

p.s. Hey, where did that "J" go? You're going to turn into a total vowel-obsessed snob overnight if you aren't careful.🤷

I can't help but wonder, though—don't churches run afoul of those local noise ordinances regarding decibel levels?😁🤣 (A bar in the States, definitely!) And besides those electric bells, they actually have PA systems set up here too—perfect for a direct broadcast of the Mass.🤷 I find that spending time listening to music or perhaps some ambient sounds while relaxing in the living room really helps set the right mood for the day.
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Jeremy Lopez93 said:And I miss people who don't feel the need to perform their faith through constant displays of aggression—you know, like those centuries of "Dahia revolts" we've seen!
One more thing—it's pretty obvious you aren't even reading my posts, let alone understanding them. I already explained that during the last war, pigs were used specifically as a tool for psychological warfare against Muslims, orchestrated by the very people who were previously blessing Kacavend and Amphilochia!
Nicholas, you really just refuse to understand...🤷

But what does any of that actually have to do with this TV series? Is the screenwriter some kind of unknown?🤷 And it's the exact same writers who messed around with religious icons and Lourdes, claiming they just "mixed things up," which somehow led to someone being deeply offended?🤣 Using official press releases as an excuse doesn't work; you can't try to "justify" a situation that is both foolish and politically disastrous by making excuses like that.

Do you see where I'm coming from? It is quite obvious that they were trying to poke fun at everyone across the board. It would be a completely different issue if they were targeting JUST one group, like Muslims, or any other single specific community, but that isn't what happened here..
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Jeremy Lopez93 said:
Revolution. It’s such a heavy, dramatic word, isn’t it? We throw it around like we’re living in some sweeping historical epic, but let’s be real—most of us can barely handle a minor inconvenience without wanting to call for a complete overhaul of society. Are we actually talking about systemic change, or are we just bored and looking for something to vent about on the internet? Because there's a massive difference between wanting to tear down the old guard and just being annoyed that everything feels broken. Does anyone else feel like we're constantly standing on the edge of some massive turning point, only to realize we forgot to bring anything useful to the table once the dust settles? Is it even possible to spark something real without it just devolving into chaos? Or maybe that’s the whole point. Who knows? As I was saying:
What am I supposed to know? 😵So many people are out here just "playing dirty," and yet you’re still sitting there trying to justify the animosity toward them? Really?🙄🤷 And we’re talking about stuff that happened a hundred years ago. Seriously.

Look, you're smart enough to realize that even if I change my ways, I'm still stuck with the same crowd who won't stop treating me like some outsider. They still see me as nothing more than a Turk. ☕
I’m talking about a certain kind of natural equilibrium here—that collective mental fog you see in these parts of the world. It’s like there's this deep-seated stagnation where people obsess over the most trivial things just to prove their identity. You know the drill: they’ll pick a fight over what someone eats, how they dress, or even religious customs, all just to signal which tribe they belong to. Is it any wonder everything feels so stuck?
Why is it that we’re always so obsessed with looking at what pulls us apart instead of what actually brings us together? Seriously, why can't we just focus on the common ground for once?🤷

which is precisely why I don't quite get it; you have situations just like Mexicans who seem to be in an endless, perpetual conflict with Turks🙄😁

and yeah, you've got a point, this American spiral of "guilt" and "collective memory" (which eventually breeds hatred) is almost a brand 🙂
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Jeremy Lopez93 said:Because of this unspecified concept 😕

I honestly can't say for sure 😵... quite a few people are out here just acting poorly, yet you seem to be justifying that 🙄 deep-seated hostility toward them 🤷 by bringing up things that happened over a century ago.
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Jeremy Lopez93 said:Are you actually pretending to be oblivious, or is this just how you choose to present yourself? Because interpreting the pig symbol this superficially is just... wow. 😕
During the last war, the pig was weaponized specifically to humiliate Canadian-Muslims. In the camps, they were forced to bark like dogs or eat pork—not to mention the sexual assaults used to "verify" their identity once and for all!
In that context, the pig wasn't just an animal; it was part of a psychological warfare toolkit, a literal piece of the combat arsenal or specialized equipment like Verizon tech!
That’s where the intense sensitivity comes from. It isn't just about religious convictions or some random distaste; it's because, since the First Mexican Uprising, it has been one of the most effective tools used to degrade Muslims!
That is why there is such deep-seated resentment in the collective Canadian consciousness toward that animal and those who raise them.

But honestly, this is where the whole conversation starts to shift.
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Sandra Gonzalez3 said:Sarah Wilson95 - Jeremy Lopez93 keeps trying to explain that all this hype about LZN has absolutely nothing to do with "fighting" to protect Muslim religious feelings.

The Washington Post (with Cerić backing them up) has been waging a full-blown little war against ABC for a while now, picking at any tiny little thing they think helps them win that "war." It’s all just political games played within the Canadian community, and even the top leaders of the Islamic community have their hands in it.

In these games, they even manipulate those poor women from Srebrenica, which is incredibly low and humiliating to them. Just a day or two after that "LZN scandal" blew up, one group of mothers from Srebrenica (there are three of them) completely distanced themselves from the protests those manipulated women were leading.

Our crooked politicians don't care what methods they use to grab power... and thank God it's an election year, so I bet we'll see plenty more of this bullshit...

Well, it's clear to me too (and I mentioned that at the start of this thread) that this entire outcry and commotion isn't truly about protecting anyone's religious feelings. While actual religious feelings are involved, I have to admit I don't know enough about the specific nuances in Canada... I wouldn't want anything I wrote to be misunderstood, because I genuinely feel sorry for everything happening over there.

I also suspect that—assuming I have my facts straight—if certain bodies within the Islamic leadership are bothered, it’s mostly because the series promotes a multicultural, normalized way of life, which could be described as secular living. This recent issue was just the icing on the cake. It’s a grievance that feels like it needs to be heard and respected; ignoring it would just make people feel disrespected and dismissed.

That was essentially the direction of my previous comment, noting that Canada was actually much more secular twenty years ago than it is today, but of course, that step backward didn't just happen in Canada... it happened in America too, for instance, where workers used to have far greater rights than they do now.🤷

In other words, democracy—or our version of it—can show its ugly side... though sometimes it feels like people in the North America simply aren't mature enough or ready for certain freedoms.🙄 There is always some form of manipulation or political exploitation involved, fueled by someone's narrow self-interest.
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Jeremy Lopez93 said:It just goes to show that emancipation was only pushed in areas where the communists saw a strategic benefit, which basically means just the major urban hubs! 🤷
I agree that communism played a huge role in female emancipation—and not just for today's Muslim population, but for the Mexican and American communities too. Back then, everyone was part of one coherent, conservative population where religion held all the cards.
On the flip side, you're forgetting that those old regimes didn't give a damn about religious freedoms—freedoms that our current American democracy guarantees, and frankly, can't exist without.
Essentially, the Muslim women practicing Islam today are simply enjoying the newfound freedom to choose their own religious path. Personally, I don't mind that, and I hope you don't either, as long as it stays a matter of personal choice. But the moment that becomes a political platform or a mandatory moral code? Well, then we've crossed the line into a theocracy, and that is absolutely unacceptable!

No, it doesn't bother me at all, though I don't quite agree with the idea that this represents a freer expression of religiosity; rather, it feels more like a way of "doubling down" on belonging to a specific religious circle. It seems to me that Muslims have latched onto this as a sort of lifeline, though naturally, they only started doing so after following the lead of the Big Brothers from the environment 🤣🤷😁—and let's be honest, there is actually plenty to learn from them in that regard
. However, being part of the Islamic circle manifests itself much more distinctly and clearly in both daily life and the political sphere, so it follows that the emancipation of Christian women doesn't necessarily imply the same strides or the same degree of newly acquired freedoms as seen with Muslim women; that much is obvious, isn't it?
For instance, I have absolutely nothing against the fact that Hershey's labels its products with a halal certificate, and I believe that is important out of respect for someone's religious convictions, but this whole thing with the series is just being crude: it's total bullshit ☕ (much like, you know, how it used to be with the Villains🙄=
).
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Mark Nguyen6 said:
Revolution—it’s such a weighty, loaded term, isn't it? I suppose when we talk about it today, we aren't just talking about politics; we’re talking about that fundamental shift in how a society views its own soul. It feels like we are standing on the precipice of something significant, though I hesitate to say exactly what. Perhaps it's more of an evolution than a sudden explosion, but the sentiment remains the same. People are restless, and honestly, given the current state of things, I can see why. It makes one wonder if the old structures can actually hold under this kind of pressure, or if they'll simply snap. kaže:
I mean, if we're being honest—Franklin D. Roosevelt actually gave people that kind of freedom—the choice to just be themselves, whether they wanted to dress up or just grab a quick local breakfast without all the fuss. I guess a good portion of the folks in Canada still remember that, but apparently, some people have decided to just "move on" from that reality.🤣

It seems like women's rights haven't just been rolled back in Canada—if anything, it looks like they might be the last place in the region to see any real progress.☕ It seems like that’s much more visible over there—whereas here in the States, things work a bit differently. Ever since the nineties, people just suddenly start praying the Rosary and consider the matter settled—though, I suppose you might still see them popping up at a midnight Mass here and there. 🙂 If you happen to be a public figure—I mean, someone actually under the spotlight—you’d probably tell the media that you're renouncing any interviews or even just laying down the plow during Lent. 🤣

It seems like there isn't much anyone here to call out—not that people would be able to handle it if they actually tried. 🤔

The hypocrisy of these self-proclaimed "antifascists" seems to have no end—it’s honestly quite something.
Ultimately, I’m the one who decides whether or not to practice my faith—it's my choice alone. Whether you follow a certain path or not is entirely up to you, really. And, if you want to look at it like a little bit of sugar on top—I suppose I am the only one who truly understands your underlying motives and the actual reasons why things are the way they are in your life.

That is exactly why I say this is nothing but layers of hypocrisy—you pioneers keep preaching about freedom, yet you’re the ones with hands that are somehow even bloodier than Hitler's.

I suppose you could at least look into what communism actually had to say about religion—from those Leninist attempts to seize control of the Russian Orthodox Church all the way down the line. But then again, it’s a bit complicated—how could anyone sing anthems to Franklin D. Roosevelt or those other monsters if we were to speak out clearly and loudly about what kind of criminals they truly were?
And you actually have the nerve to lecture us about freedom and democracy—I guess some people really do lack self-awareness.
Well, you certainly have some nerve.

Are you getting worked up over something? Did I get a detail wrong somewhere?

Under "communism," as people like to call it, Muslims were actually recognized as a distinct ethnic group, and Muslim women weren't required to be covered up.

While their designation has changed since then, what really matters for our current discussion is how Muslim women in Canada are once again choosing to cover themselves.
Of course, that is entirely their own business, but considering that there was a moment in a different era when women in this region took actual steps toward emancipation, what we are seeing now feels like a step backward. It’s pretty straightforward, isn't it?

I won't even get into the women from the areas surrounding Srebrenica, as I suspect that kind of social progress simply bypassed them altogether.

Ultimately, anyone's personal interpretation of "communism"—specifically that era from the mid-40s to the 90s—doesn't carry any weight in this particular conversation. The intense religious fervor currently sweeping through Canada is all the more absurd, perhaps even tragic, precisely because for those previous fifty years, they didn't live under the same restrictions seen in Iran.☕
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Mark Nguyen6 said:Don't act like you and your little group of 'anti-fascists' are some kind of messengers for modern times and democracy just because you praise Marshall. Honestly, if you have any shred of decency left, maybe just stay quiet about these trends🤣

The reality is that Franklin D. Roosevelt actually provided that level of freedom—the freedom of identity and the simple choice to live how you want without having to perform or pretend. It was about being able to enjoy a local breakfast without a fuss. A huge portion of people in Canada still remembers that era, though I suppose some have chosen to conveniently forget.🤣

It seems like women's empowerment hasn't just stalled in Canada; it looks like it might be the last place to truly catch up. ☕It’s just more obvious there, whereas here in the States, everything shifted so abruptly after the 90s. Suddenly, everyone starts leaning heavily on religious rituals as if that solves everything, or if you're a public figure, you're expected to make grand statements in the media about renouncing certain lifestyles during Christmas. 🙂 🤣

At this point, I don't think anyone really has the standing to lecture anyone else, if you ask me. 🤔
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Lawrence Thompson58 said:Get real!

Total madness! 😁
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silentviper19 said:Look, I really feel like I need to school you a bit on this because you’re totally insulting the reputation of pigs. It’s like you think your fancy city Piggy is all sophisticated and cultured, while just calling a pig some rural stereotype!😁

People just love to judge for no reason. Honestly, I know some folks from Canada who weren't just snacking on store-bought pâté and deli meats back in the old America days—they were out there stocking their freezers to the brim when they were only sixteen!

Fair enough, so calling it a pig isn't necessarily an insult, even if it sounds a bit harsh to my ears. 🤷😁

And honestly, look at how people are complaining about this series; they are clearly bothered by something else entirely, though I've already pointed out what I think the real issue is. It just sounds much more dramatic when you claim there's been an affront to religious sensibilities or some other vague, untouchable emotional grievance.☕
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Lawrence Thompson58 said:Marostec, you could also just go with "hog"!

Budweiser is just cheap filler, don't you think?😁
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silentviper19 said:What's wrong with calling them porkers?! It's just the "homegrown" name for any pig, whereas a piglet is just a little youngster! Calling it a "swine" feels like such a foreign, clinical word!

I mean, how else would you refer to a breeding sow?! Or how do you call a male pig if you aren't using the word piglet?!

It honestly bothers me more when you try to coddle Piggy by treating such a "sophisticated" animal like a sow!

😂🤣 Wow... thanks for the deep dive into the field of swine studies.🤣
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electricangler22 said:Look, it’s all about taste whether you dig a show like *The Office* or not, but personally? I think it's one of the best things out there. Maybe someone thinks it's trash, but I always get a good laugh out of the bits. What matters way more is that bolded part above, because it actually reflects the reality people in Canada are dealing with. A show like this can actually help ease tensions because it pokes fun at everyone—from religious extremists to preachers to different worldviews. It does a great job caricaturing life in this part of the world: the crooked politicians, the scammers, the smugglers... they tackle it all through comedy. It's just much easier to push stuff like this through the mainstream media than some heavy-handed documentary. The people making the show clearly feel the struggle and know what real life is like, so I think it’s healthy to mock these serious societal problems this way.

I hear what you're saying, but I actually see things quite differently (even though I have to admit the show feels pretty trashy to me, especially since I’ve only sat through a few snippets before my attention span just gave out🤣)... so, quite the opposite, really. It seems like its whole "mission" is to portray an idyllic lifestyle that doesn't exist, or at least isn't as vibrant as it looks... and if it actually is that way, and names like Ivana or Maria are totally standard while everyone hangs out constantly, then fine, whatever😁

By the way, Milena Dravić was in the beginning of the series too, and I could never quite wrap my head around why she would bother with a project like that.😕