go back and take a look at my very first response in this thread
As for everything else, look, you’ve got every right to be frustrated, I get it, but honestly, it feels like way more people than just you are fed up with the fact that having a decent, rational conversation has become basically impossible here The whole situation is becoming totally unsustainable, and frankly, those who can't figure out how to hold a civilized discussion are eventually going to have to find themselves a new corner of the internet to hang out in
hollowmason64, the whole sub is shifting gears because the admins basically gave the mods a direct order the plan is to pivot toward actually letting people who have something worthwhile to say participate all that mindless insulting, trolling, and general nonsense is finally going to die out here on Lješ
A bit of lighthearted banter is always going to be welcome over at LJES, provided you aren't just being a complete jerk . It really just comes down to knowing where to draw the line
You all might want to clean yourselves up and start praying that we don't see any more cartoonish nonsense coming our way, because if things go south, capital is going to be flying out the window fast. Look, you’re all seasoned veterans on this site, so honestly, you really have no excuse for acting this immature.
Well, if you ask me, there’s a massive difference here, and I’m not seeing how anyone could argue otherwise. One guy is gone, nothing left but a fading memory and some old stories, while the other is still very much alive, walking free, and fully capable of standing up for himself or filing a lawsuit if he feels like it...
ironmarlin1 said:hollowtrucker77, honestly, that little "objection" you’re raising applies to about 90% of the discussions we have over on the PZ forums anyway. Besides, the moderator didn't even cite that as the reason for the decision. I really don't see why you're standing up for such an absurdly foolish way to shut down a thread, especially when it's just going to end up migrating right back here as some even more chaotic off-topic mess. 🤷
I'm not defending anyone the mods can look out for themselves I'm just trying to clear things up in the meantime, acting as an outsider looking in it's not like I have to be right, and I'm certainly not insisting on it I'm just attempting to lay out how the situation looks from a somewhat neutral perspective
Joseph Watson3 said:Actually, we’re talking about the conservation of momentum here, not energy—because a body can come to a halt or speed up while its total energy stays exactly the same. The law of conservation of momentum is really just a consequence of the homogeneity of space, which... So, we’re back to Emmy Noether’s theorem.
So, momentum is conserved because the laws of physics don't change depending on where you are in space—basically, thanks to spatial homogeneity. That theorem is one of the heavy hitters in classical physics, so no, the answer isn't exactly trivijalan.
So, if that’s the case, then what exactly qualifies as a trivial answer? So, are we actually going to sit here and debate whether an apple tossed into the air is always going to be dragged back down by gravity, or are we just going to pretend that physics is optional today? You could probably spin the exact same story eighteen different ways if you felt like wasting the breath, but at the end of the day, it’s still the same damn thing—well-known, measured, documented, and theorized to death.
The core issue hasn't changed one bit An object gets set in motion—energy is put into the system—and unless some other force steps in to dump more energy or drain it away, that object is just going to keep on moving
For heaven's sake, what exactly is left to debate here??
1. It’s because things just start suffocating if you let absolutely every single topic and every random question wander in without any boundaries. 2. A question can actually be quite advanced, but if the thread is opened poorly and it basically screams "elementary school level," then honestly, you should probably just go ask your teacher instead. 3. The way people are communicating here isn't appropriate at all, though I suppose we have to remember the mods are just human beings too.
4. Until the moderators weigh in, I’ll just keep giving general, broad answers, and look, I’m perfectly aware that I might occasionally drop something that isn't quite right. My bad, everyone, I'm just trying to clarify things and be helpful.
Look, I just gave you my take on how things look from where I’m sitting Whatever the deal is, I assume the PZ mods will weigh in with the specifics if they feel the need to I’m just trying to explain this from a high-level, bird's-eye view rather than acting like I’ve got my hands dirty in the middle of it all Anyway, what would your answer be here? If an object is already in motion and no external force acts upon it, it’s going to keep moving in that same direction at that same speed, plain and simple We can sit here and debate whether we want to call that inertia or energy conservation—since, you know, changing states requires energy—but that doesn't change the fact that the way the question was phrased is just fundamentally flawed
Given how this whole topic was framed, the answer is honestly pretty trivial: it’s just the energy conservation law. If you actually want a deep dive or some serious analysis, you really need to put forward a specific thesis and give us enough substance to actually debate.
You have to realize that you're the only one who actually knows what you're thinking; everyone else is just reading what's on the screen. So, if you want this thread to head in a productive direction—and avoid ending up like what Joseph Watson3 wrote, where everything just devolves into aimless philosophy—you need to set some actual parameters. As for whether a thread stays up or gets tossed out, that's entirely up to the subforum moderators.
this thread is being shut down because it’s just plain stupid and boring, honestly sitting at about a sixth-grader's level of comprehension yeah, threads can be closed without any formal explanation, especially when the reason is staring you right in the face, though in this specific instance, the thread was actually closed with an explanation provided