Gnu, you’re accusing me of being offensive? Give me a break. Where exactly? You were the first one to come at me out of nowhere, claiming I was some kind of clone—which, by the way, I explicitly addressed in my signature. Then, when I actually tried to report other users for harassment, you and your little guru labeled my reports as "persecution." You even went as far as congratulating the very people I was reporting, while I was sitting there thinking there was still some sense of order here, just watching how successfully you all mock me. Now your latest joke is calling me Kremenko. And let's not forget those blatant insults you hurled at us—was that just a calculated move to provoke us so you could delete them later? You guys even tried to track my movements when I was simply trying to explain how standard medical treatments actually saved three of my family members from cancer..
Look, I offered you an out a long time ago. Just offer a sincere apology, drop these ridiculous accusations about me being a clone, and we can move past this like adults.
For some reason, Ethan Barrett22 keeps pushing this fabricated story about some outing he took with someone named "Kremenko," all just so he and a couple of others can mock the poor guy.
When I pointed out how illogical that whole story was, Ethan Barrett22 and stormyrider28 tried to claim that *I* was actually "Kremenko." Now I’m starting to wonder—given that they both insist Ethan Brooks59 and I are clones (which is pretty obvious from my signature anyway), and looking at what Ethan Brooks59 just posted, is "Kremenko" just a fake nickname they made up? I noticed how active Ethan Brooks59 is on all those mineral threads, after all.
And if you need proof that Ethan Barrett22 has a habit of targeting forum members, just look at the leaked PP data or his blatant ad hominem attacks where he digs up people's info from various PDFs and other online forums.
Has nobody else picked up on the sheer irony here? We’ve got this self-proclaimed guru constantly citing a user who he supposedly has on his ignore list. 😁
I’m right there with stormyrider28 on this one. I personally order a ton of stuff from those wellness gurus—mostly just so I don't have to deal with the hassle of manually supplementing things like Vitamin C myself.👍
Ethan Brooks59 said:Hahaha, you totally missed the point. He separated our couple in his signature with a dash, basically making us "one entity," and then he just lists everyone else after the colon with commas. Good grief, imagine if his signature wasn't capped at three lines. 😁😁
🤣I didn't actually serve!
But seriously... where's that "local" EXO clone thing again? 🤔
Ethan Barrett22 said:You can see for yourself that a handful of the exact same users (just take a look at my ignore list) write every single post on Alternative solely to insult people, use ad hominem attacks, and harass anyone with a different opinion. Not one of their posts is an exception.
Oh, look at that—actual progress. Before this, they were dragging out theories that it was just one person operating under multiple handles. 😁
By the way, even though I’ve been subjected to some seriously nasty insults—stuff those pseudo-alternative types actually had the nerve to defend, even when they were just accusing me of cloning accounts—I don't recall ever directing an insult at anyone, do I?
Mods, thanks a lot. Even though I was practically begging for moderation on that PDF, I think I'm better off without you. Everything finds its level in the end. 👍
Isn't that exactly what you're doing? Just take a look at my controversial post here:
And then observe how you immediately twisted my words and fabricated an entirely different meaning:
From there, it’s just a continuous cycle. You persist in playing the victim, whether intentionally or by accident, because you refuse to grasp the actual point I've made—a point I have already clarified several times. You simply don't care. Instead, you play the martyr to try and turn everyone against me. Let me be clear: I haven't insulted her family. Again, I am sorry for the tragedy, and I am certainly not gloating over it, but she is blaming me simply because I dared to ask a question. My grievance is that she is weaponizing her personal tragedy to defame me.
So, here is the reality for the moderators: this user is relentlessly trying to manipulate the direction of this discussion through pure emotion, and it's frankly disgusting. That is exactly why I called her out, and I only did so after being subjected to a barrage of insults. Unfortunately, I see this kind of emotional parasitism all too often in public, and occasionally in my private life as well.
She seems to be expecting the "Diana effect"—where everyone just shuts their brains off and folds—but that isn't going to work on me.
If she apologizes for the malicious things she's attributed to me, I'll be willing to concede that she was just acting out of pure emotion. Until then, I will assume she is doubling down on these accusations on purpose.
Unless the moderators require further clarification from me, I'm done here.
Please, stop taking our conversation out of context by selectively cherry-picking my posts and rearranging them out of order.
Leave it to the moderators to do their jobs; they need to read this entire thread carefully. They should see how you completely lost it just because I was skeptical about how you could possibly be qualified to make diagnoses as a child—which led to you pushing dangerous theories about medical treatments—and how you’ve since pivoted to spreading insane rumors about me and hurling insults.
Like I said before, I feel for your mother, but I am not going to let you smear my name and insult me while using her as a shield.
All I’m asking is for everyone to actually read this entire thread from start to finish. Personally, I’m not out here calling for any kind of ban on this user. Even though she’s thrown the most vile insults my way and dumped a massive wall of nonsense on me—clearly because she struggles with basic reading comprehension—it would be hypocritical of me to demand discipline when this sub is already overflowing with unmoderated trash.
As you can see, I repeatedly gave her the chance to take accountability and clear up the confusion. If it’s still not clicking for you all, I’m happy to explain it right here, though I feel like the situation is pretty obvious. I had zero intention of being malicious, and I certainly had no desire to mock anyone's personal tragedy.
Brenda Gonzalez12, I think you're overreacting a bit here. Look, I’ll be the first one to lose my cool if people start tagging each other in some weird, self-destructive cycle, but that's just not what's happening right now. 😁
Of course I did; I explained everything. Either you haven't been following my posts in this thread, or you’re intentionally playing dumb—which, honestly, seems to be your go-to tactic in other discussions too. Suit yourself.
It’s pretty interesting, though, how you completely dodge any specific accountability regarding how you organized that mob against a user you claimed was using the Exotericon nickname. There’s never an admission like, "Oops, I overstepped," or anything similar. You just gloss right over it like nothing ever happened.
To be honest, I couldn't care less about what you two discuss in your private messages. But don't forget: you openly bragged about reporting users via PP just because they disagreed with you. A message even leaked showing you supporting the idea that we're all just idiots or mercenaries, not to mention how you tried to spin the theory that people are reading your private messages without being admins.
You were also incredibly malicious in your last post, trying to discredit my stance on Exotericon and whether I’ve stayed consistent regarding Rorion. As the links clearly showed, I have; you haven't. To you, that was just "persecuting users," but this isn't. Naturally, you won't address your double standards, and now you're suddenly demanding links to things that have already been posted—it's almost as if you have no memory of what you actually wrote.
You keep insisting on moving this to private communication, so fine. Reach out to me there. Stop replying to me here.
The bottom line is this: some self-proclaimed guru started this whole crusade by hitting people up in private messages before finally taking his grievances public against someone who simply didn't agree with him. He went out of his way to claim he actually created the very username this entire thread is dedicated to. And of course, at least one of his little followers was more than happy to jump on the bandwagon and pile on. Has there been any admission of error here? Any actual apology? I certainly haven't seen one from the guru or his disciples. So, yeah, I have no intention of letting people like that hold moderator positions.
As for Exotericon, it looks like my "clone" (a little nod to my skyscraper 😉 jumper) was right—the subforum has quieted down for the moment. The real question is, how long will that last?
Elizabeth Jackson, I’m done sending you links. I’ve already laid everything out right here on this thread, and frankly, I couldn't care less about people who choose to ignore half the conversation. Everything else has been made crystal clear, and I have no intention of repeating myself.
To address the most critical point—even though my stance hasn't changed in ages—yes, I expect immediate and consistent disciplinary action ever since that user told a female member to go screw the moderators.
To expand on that slightly, I also expect penalties for every off-topic tangent where someone starts the whole "who are you a clone of" routine; there should be a warning first, followed by a ban. The same goes for those playing the "I'm just acting stupid" card.
On another note, it’s obvious my expectations are unrealistic. It’s just as unrealistic to think some guy here is going to fulfill a promise and jump off a skyscraper just because of me.
Llena, you're overthinking this. It makes it look like Nica is standing against every single person on this Reddit, even though they definitely don't share her views.
1. I’ve reported Exotericon myself more than once; if nobody else is reacting, that’s not on me. And yes, I called him out specifically because of what you call "charlatanism": http://www.reddit.com/r/forum/1125447 ☕
2. I also said he isn't funny. I’m not part of your little cult where I have to speak on behalf of everyone who thinks he *is* entertaining. Let him explain himself. ☕
3. To be honest, I didn't think much of you before. I've been active on this sub-forum for a while, but back when I reported Rorion—when even the previous moderator tried to give him a "friendly warning" first because they were baffled by his behavior—there you were, defending him against "persecution." Even though his vocabulary was almost identical to Exotericon's (which actually made me think they were the same person for a few days). Back then, you didn't seem to mind his crude language about shoving things down throats, his antisemitism, and so on, or how he would just jump into a thread out of nowhere without any constructive input, just to say stuff like "you're stupid," or "look in the mirror, moron." Yeah, that's when I remembered you as someone who plays dumb just to aggressively defend your buddy. I already provided the link to that thread. ☕
4. Furthermore, I saw your hypocrisy firsthand when you defended another user who was provoking and insulting people by calling them clones. This was a user who had actually been punished for that exact violation. You didn't see an issue with it—not as an insult, not as trolling, nor as a breach of the standard practice on other subreddits where moderators would promptly shut down a "who is whose clone" debate and hand out penalties. No, to you, it wasn't a problem. And here you are, defending that kind of behavior. ☕
5. This habit of labeling people as clones is just a thing a few of you do, which is exactly why I consider you a cult. Among those who disagree with you, I’ve noticed maybe one or two users who went after Bonecrusher over proven cloning. I don't need to provide links; it's all right there in this thread too. You even go out of your way to call me a clone without provocation, even though I was just making a harmless point about an unverified statement being attributed to someone and questioning its relevance to the topic. And you actually consider that an attack, 🤦 so that tells you everything you need to know about your authority to judge who is being "attacked." Link: http://www.reddit.com/r/forum/1125447
6. You admit yourself that other users have to notify you when they are debunking people you're ignoring (your cult's terminology is that they are "attacking" you). If you don't care about those users, why don't you just shut it down? Why do you let these messengers keep reporting those users' activities to you if you're so "cool"? It's a cult. ☕
7. On top of that, you messed up when you called Exotericon a clone of another dissenter. And you admitted—publicly, mind you—that you started a campaign against that other dissenter via private messages. Since then, one of your followers has been relentlessly pushing that same narrative. Cult. ☕
8. Looking at everything said, it's obvious that you initiated certain attacks, yet you try to distance yourself from them or simply stay silent about the mess you cooked up. Cult. ☕
9. And now you want to "settle this privately"? You could have just sent me a DM from the start. 😁
What’s the deal with labeling someone a "snowflake" on an American Reddit thread, especially when most of the people throwing that word around clearly live in the States and use terms like that every single day?
What can you even say when you haven't even bothered to click all the links, yet you're standing there acting like you hold the absolute truth? I actually went through them, and I can tell you one thing: you're dead wrong. 🍿
What kind of treatment are you looking for when you and your little cult—what else should I call people who reflexively jump in to defend your character and work at the slightest hint of criticism, as if they were personally attacked? Like some kind of brainwashed political youth wing? You spend thread after thread insulting anyone who disagrees with you, calling them nothing but clones. Look at your recent post about vaccinations; you couldn't even handle a perfectly reasonable question without labeling it a personal attack and accusing me of fraud. Honestly, being repeatedly accused of "unethical practices" is an insult to me, especially since it's clearly just a cheap ad hominem whenever you run out of actual arguments. .. 😛
No, I’m not saying Exotericon shouldn't be held accountable. I'm just reminding you of a very similar situation where you dismissed those kinds of reports as nothing more than harassment of users.
Are we really going to sit here and talk about your insults? Not just here, but across this entire sub where you constantly harass me by claiming I'm some kind of clone? You love throwing that accusation at everyone else, too—but since I don't know them and can't speak for them, I'll leave it to you to consider the possibility that almost everyone you encounter might actually be a clone. 😛
Please, do better. He actually threatened to jump off a skyscraper if I didn't produce a clone. 😁
On a serious note, this thread is getting absolutely spammed. The vocabulary here—and I’m not just talking about Exotericon—has devolved into nothing but insults. Between the constant trolling and the blatant accusations that everyone is just a bot or a clone (which is painfully obvious in this very thread), it’s becoming genuinely unpleasant to read. And you know how this works: once one person gets away with insulting others without consequence, it quickly turns into a shared language among a group of people. This has been going on for over a month now. Honestly, just cracking down on the insults would be a massive relief for everyone.