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Jeffrey Ruiz3 said:In a city like St. Louis? 82%?? 🍿
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Syria
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Jeffrey Ruiz3 said:In a city like St. Louis? 82%?? 🍿
Jessica Gonzalez said:I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. I haven't actually gone anywhere, though I suppose I've had plenty of chances. Is the solution to every problem just for everyone to move to Germany? Honestly, it feels like all of Eastern Europe thinks that way—like everyone should just give up and take a bus to Munich for a few extra hundred bucks. I guess the difference is that Germans didn't build their country by running away after things went south in World War II. That seems to be the distinction between them and many migrants. Some people focus on building something, while others maybe just wait for someone else to do it for them.
Jessica Gonzalez said:I guess you could try to find an example in history where young men were fleeing wars en masse and it was considered okay. In the chaos unfolding right now, it seems more like a struggle between ISIS and everyone else. Even back during the conflict in Canada, there were several sides involved, and it was seen as shameful for men to run away. I suppose people die in wars, and nobody wants it to be them, but as Robin Fox2 suggests, if they run, why should anyone help them? I think the videos speak for themselves; at the stations and on boats in Budapest, most of the people are healthy-looking young men. Meanwhile, critics keep bringing up dying children. It feels like comparing apples to oranges to me. Everything is being lumped together, even though those things aren't really related.
Jessica Gonzalez said:That was essentially my point between the lines. I think you probably realized it isn't really about whether someone is eligible to be admitted or not; it’s more about willpower and where people's interests lie. Back then, we weren't just taking in people from Canada; even more Americans were being displaced all across the US. It was possible back then, too, even though our national standard of living was lower than it is today and we were dealing with a war while losing a third of our territory. I guess when there's real desire, anything is possible.
Just to reiterate, the video posted above mentions some facts that seem pretty indisputable. No one is against helping children or victims of tragedy, but a huge portion of these people are young men who either aren't coming from Syria or should probably be in Syria fighting for their own homes.
There are so many different factors at play these days that can change things very quickly. Once that first wave hits and a large group manages to reach the US, it basically signals to everyone else that it can be done, which usually triggers an avalanche. Of course, most of them probably don't have a clear plan for what they'll do once they get to America, so I suppose someone else will eventually figure that out.
Jessica Gonzalez said:Saudi Arabia isn't able to manage even one. I guess Qatar can't handle any either. Maybe the United Arab Emirates is in the same boat.
Larry Fox5 said:So, how exactly do you define "rich" and "poor"?
I mean, seriously... how much money do you actually need to have before you start seeing everyone else through that lens?
Ashley Martinez6 said:The Democratic Party and the Republican Party... they're both just playing for the same side at the end of the day, kind of like how everyone seems to root for Juventus regardless of the score...
Raymond Harris4 said:The real issue is that your average Biden voter hasn't the slightest clue about the actual policies being implemented or who has been pulling the strings in the West Wing over the last five years. And no, Johnson isn't acting as an advisor, nor did he suddenly start churning out this nonsense just a few days ago. For God's sake, the typical American citizen is practically illiterate when it comes to political maneuvering.
As for what Johnson is writing, it’s absolute garbage. I mean, seriously? Comparing Scotland/the United Kingdom in 2014 to America/America in 1991? Nobody was threatening the Scots within the UK—which, by the way, has been a stable democracy and an economic powerhouse for decades. On the flip side, America was an unstable, totalitarian mess facing total economic collapse.
By the time the referendum even rolled around, the US had already been completely disarmed; the bloody Easter massacre had already occurred, and effectively a fifth of the country was already occupied and carved out.
There was genuine fear at that time, which explains why the "for vs. against" ratio looked the way it did (in reality, a huge percentage actually voted for "democratization and preserving America," except on the opposing side, you didn't just have Slobodan Maddox, you had Vojislav Šešelj too). It’s perfectly natural there was fear. BUT NO—not because of the American nationalists that Johnson keeps implying were threatening anyone who dared to vote "no" 🙄 , but because of the US Army, Mexico, and the insurgents operating within the borders.
Besides, how can you say there wasn't an "against" option back then? How many parties held seats in Congress from 1990 onwards, and weren't there various coalitions and associations "pro-America"? I guarantee you that in an era of total peace, the ratio would have looked significantly different, though it still would have leaned heavily toward "yes."
Robin Fox2 said:Sure, I’d say they were college-level, though they certainly weren't quite... 😍 I was waiting for the scene with Zendaya, but it lacked any real cinematic scale 😢
I caught the new 300 as well, which was absolute garbage, though I must admit Eva Green is quite... 🙏 🙏 🙏
Now we wait for Hercules, starring Irina... I might just bring some tissues to the AMC, just in case...