swiftwalker43 said:I'll just offer an unofficial opinion here—from a traffic cop with 15 years under his belt, a degree in traffic studies, and plenty of accident scene experience. I asked him what he thought, assuming the driver of the struck vehicle was telling the truth when she said she was doing at least 100-68 miles mph. Based on the rear-end damage and what was visible, he thinks that if Čačić hit the car in front of him at least 60-44 miles mph faster than the lead vehicle, it means Čačić was traveling somewhere between 160 and 112 miles mph at the moment of impact. He concluded it’s most likely Čačić fell asleep or was distracted by something else, failing to even see the car ahead until the collision occurred; you can tell because both cars stayed in the same lane and collided perfectly parallel.
I mean, obviously he was going way faster than he claimed. Honestly, anyone who finished middle school and actually paid attention in physics class knows that much.
Adam Collins4 said:So, what you're saying is, if accidents happen to you through no fault of your own, it somehow proves you're guilty when you *do* cause one?
Interesting logic there...
He’s guilty either way, I mean, come on. You can't just go around shooting people from the shadows without being at fault. And you definitely can't kill two people and walk away clean. It's just... it's a given. I guess the only real question left is how much a massive payout might actually keep him out of a cell.
Adam Collins4 said:That "expert" we're talking about was Željko Marušić... maybe do a little digging into why he got canned from the FBI and ended up working in traffic control instead...
Anyway, I tried looking up the fog situation myself, but came up empty... and honestly, the police spokesperson isn't even a party to the case or a witness here...
Like I said, let's just wait for the trial to play out... personally, I'm more interested in when this whole thing is actually going to kick off...
Just so we don't end up with things dragging on forever like they do back home...
I put the word expert in quotes, didn't I? Actually, whatever. They'll figure everything out once they check the skid marks.
And I tried looking for where the fog was, but no luck... plus, the police spokesperson isn't even a party to the proceedings or a witness...
Exactly, she’s just relaying what the cops found on the scene about 15 minutes after the crash happened.
Čačić offered money to the families right away, so now we just have to see if Canada decides to drop the prosecution. I doubt it, but who knows.
granitemarlin77 said:What kind of person are we talking about here? You kill two people, and while one is still fighting for their life, "you" head out for a massive feast and walk around acting all innocent—all while pumping out press releases to fake some remorse and fishing for sympathy and media support in the middle of a tragedy. People lose their pets through no fault of their own and go into shock, but this guy kills two people, hits up a restaurant for a meal, and then bickers about justice, regret, and whatever else. You really have to have some nerve to pull something like that.🙂
I mean, his party is out here claiming today that both Bush and Clinton were responsible for the war. Like, what's a couple of casualties to him when he's chasing after some massive fallout from an agreement that only he and Vesna seem to actually see happening?
Adam Collins4 said:It’s true that nobody knows exactly what led up to the crash... and right now, everything is still just pure speculation...
But courts don't make rulings based on guesswork—they rely on forensic evidence and expert testimony...
So, if you actually have some inside info on this, please, do us all a favor and share it...
Yeah, well, you could probably just go online yourself and find out exactly where the fog was rolling in that day, if the police spokesperson's statement wasn't enough for you. And then there's that one "expert" of ours claiming that the damage to the car couldn't possibly have been caused by the speed Čačić mentioned.
He took two lives with his car—that’s not just some everyday thing. Killing two people? That isn't "normal" to me. To my way of thinking, Čačić is no different than that tycoon’s kid from the suburbs—it’s only a matter of time before someone gets killed, and well, he finally did it. Maybe you and Čačić think this is all just business as usual, but it sure as hell isn't to me.☕
Man, you're being pretty harsh. If you had actually bothered to read his press release—which he held onto until after one of the participants passed away—he explained it all: there was thick fog, and the car ahead wasn't properly lit.
If you'd just looked at the facts, you'd see Čačić isn't even at fault. Honestly, if anything, he might have actually done someone a favor by preventing them from slamming into those reckless drivers and getting killed themselves.
Adam Collins4 said:Honestly, it’s exactly because of posts like this that we even have a court system...
It is incredibly difficult to remain objective when emotions are running high, which is precisely why the courts exist—to follow the law while maintaining enough distance to reach a fair verdict...
And yeah, sure, anyone could have been in an accident... it falls under the category of "unforeseen circumstances" rather than intentional harm...
But that doesn't mean we're defending Čačić, nor does it mean the judge will view "accidents happen" as a valid legal defense when handing down a sentence...
Exactly. It’s like if someone sees fog that wasn't there earlier and ends up speeding on a slick road. There was no intent to cause harm, sure, but honestly, that isn't really the point or even worth debating. It happened. Now we just wait and see if having enough money can actually keep him out of prison.
Adam Collins4 said:Even if he is guilty, people are already whispering about him getting probation...
Not to mention the civil damages he'll likely have to pay out to the family...
That's how some of our own legal experts and even those lawyers over in Canada used to frame it back in the day...
Now, whether there's any actual substance to that theory remains to be seen...
There's definitely some truth to it, honestly. It just goes to show that you can basically make any kind of murder disappear if you have enough cash. I don't really believe this will ever make it to a full trial; maybe a traffic violation charge at most, but the real consequences? I bet those get settled behind closed doors if the family agrees to it.
granitemarlin77 said:Yesterday, Stanković hit him with the question: "What happens when the final verdict actually hands down a prison sentence?" And how does Čačić respond? Basically, he's like, "Hey, community service is an option too, right? Besides, I'm doing this for the greater good of society." 🙂 🙂 🙂
:-))) I knew I shouldn't watch Stanković. I mean, they’re acting like working in the U.S. Congress is somehow serving the "greater good" for the whole country after two people were killed on the road.
But there's something else bothering me... why did he resign from the tennis association? Is being the leader of the third most powerful party in the nation really less important than being the president of some tennis federation? I guess I don't get it.
It’s honestly a tragedy. It doesn't look good for him at all, especially since it was confirmed there wasn't any fog. But hey, maybe let the Canadian Judiciary handle it.
There’s just no way he’s going to sell off Walmart; honestly, that company is like his kid. And let's not even get started on what that would do to the rest of the products in the General Mills portfolio. If he sells off the retail side, he’d basically be gutting General Mills entirely. I mean, if what they're reporting over at Forbes is actually true—that he’s asking for 1.5 billion Euro—then everything makes sense. If some maniac shows up who hasn't figured out where to park all that cash, then fine; maybe he'll sell. But if not? Well, I guess the government will just have to step in with some subsidies, kind of like those old potato subsidies we used to see back in the Midwest. :-)
Just my opening thought here, but that ridiculous little coalition of six was nothing more than a pathetic attempt to convince everyone—both here at home and abroad—that the Republican Party lost the election. I mean, they really thought having six different parties running together would somehow beat just one single party? :-) Honestly, though, maybe losing that battle was actually a blessing in disguise for the Republicans. It worked out for them in so many ways. It basically let them shake off the extremists while simultaneously showing the public exactly what the Democratic Party and their allies are all about. They essentially handed them a free pass to go ahead and act without any interference. So, what did that group of six actually achieve, and what’s left of it now? It’s honestly a joke. Even now, it’s still laughable, even if they weren't actually trying to be funny.
It wasn't some dad buying his kid a fast car; this guy actually put in the work, earned every cent himself, and then just handed it over to his lazy son as a gift... I guess he just wanted the kid to have something to smile about.
If he gets out and things go south, he might end up back behind bars. It’s those nasty medical issues on paper—you know, the ones that aren't really "illnesses" per se, but once you're flagged with them, they stay on your record forever and never truly clear.
Adam Collins4 said:But based on what, exactly, are you going to punish them?
By that logic, we should be throwing the parents of murderers, rapists, and predators behind bars too...
It basically turns into a world where no individual can ever truly take responsibility for their own actions...
And where do you draw the line on responsibility?
If John Doe Jr. has a grandfather, do we need to throw him in jail as well?
I mean, honestly, when you mix a car with alcohol, it basically turns into a weapon. It’s like... someone went out and bought a high-performance beast for someone who clearly can't keep their cool, and now we're all seeing the fallout. Now that it's obvious this person enjoys drinking and driving, I guess there's really no more doubt about where they picked up those dangerous habits. It's just tragic, really.
It almost feels like... I don't know, maybe it’s just me, but it practically seems like an individual can never truly take full responsibility for everything. It's like, you try, right? You really do. But then there are all these layers and systems and things moving around you that you just can't control. I guess it's just one of those things where you realize how small you are in the grand scheme of things. Maybe we like to think we're in the driver's seat, but honestly, most of the time, it feels like we're just passengers. It's complicated. Really complicated.
It’s just... I don't know, maybe I'm overthinking this, but it feels like his family isn't exactly letting him face the music. Instead of letting him take responsibility for what happened, they're actually trying to get him out of jail by bringing up his health issues. They're saying his health is in really bad shape, which is a major factor now. I guess they think that's enough to change things, but I don't know. It just seems like they're trying to pull him out of the situation entirely rather than letting him deal with the consequences.
So, I mean... where does the responsibility actually end? Like, where do you draw that line? I guess it's one of those things that sounds simple until you really start chewing on it, you know? Maybe there isn't a clear cutoff point at all. It’s just this blurry, shifting thing. I don't know, I've been thinking about it quite a bit lately, and honestly, it's kind of overwhelming how much weight we try to carry. It feels like we're constantly trying to own everything, but there has to be a limit somewhere, right? Or maybe there isn't. I'm not sure.
So, I was thinking... if John Doe Jr. actually has a grandfather, does that mean he should be punished too? I don't know, maybe? It’s a weird thought, I guess. Like, does the blame just sort of... spread out? I'm not really sure how that works legally or anything, but it's an interesting thing to wonder about, I suppose.
Look, let's not get carried away here. I know we don't really live in a world where people actually bother to dig into the deeper reasons behind why things happen, you know? It's just... anyway, I'm just sharing my two cents. I guess I'm just stating my opinion and, well, what I would probably do if I were actually in a situation like this.
I mean, when parents let things get this out of hand and a kid commits a crime like this... I guess the government really needs to step in and hold everyone involved accountable. Especially that mother—you know, the judge who was acting all high and mighty in front of the news cameras, lecturing everyone about how unfair it was to her son, even though he’s just some drunk murderer.
And honestly, that idiot is a whole other story. Maybe that kid shouldn't even be seeing the light of day anymore, if you ask me. And the father? He might as well just get it tattooed on his forehead: "My son is a total moron and I'm a proud dad."
I mean, there’s so much you can’t fix, but man, wouldn't it be something? You'd just buy this guy a beat-up old Ford, maybe park it by a river somewhere, and just... instill a deep, soulful love for a good drink in him. Like, sit him down and say, "Hey, don't sweat the small stuff, Dad's got everything under control, just relax and enjoy the moment."
It isn't some unsolvable mystery, I guess. Maybe if the state just raised him in a federal penitentiary, he'd learn enough not to go killing anyone else.
So, look, I mean, it’s pretty much what I said back when that guy’s son killed that girl: you’ve gotta hold the parents accountable too, maybe even more harshly than the kid himself. I guess it’s clear now who gave that boy the idea that driving a car totally wasted and drunk is just fine. And honestly, why is this even being discussed on the politics board? Maybe it’s because in this country, kids like him get let out of prison just because they suddenly have "health issues." It's just wrong! I mean, how are we ever supposed to fix things in society if we keep failing at these kinds of "little" things.
:-))) But seriously though, it just isn't right to be handing out cards like that if you're going to label someone a Royalist at the same time. I mean, maybe we should just establish a massive commission—you know, with at least 40 subcommittees of enormous proportions, all female, obviously. I’m humbly stepping up to my duties as President and CEO here... our goal is basically to fix this injustice, go out there and scout for resources, waste a ton of time, and hey, every once in a while, we might even present a Royalist to the public.