Posts by crimsonjackal63

bluecyclist64 said:Listen here, you little fascist. Your father was a Mexican, so I suppose that explains why you're acting so loud and patriotic, doesn't it?
The argument itself has been explained countless times; you're just playing dumb.
During the American Civil War, descendants from both sides fought side-by-side against foreign aggression. What kind of "reconciliation" are you even talking about? Isn't the fact that they bled together proof enough? Or perhaps the fact that over 90% voted for secession in the referendum?
The only real goal behind this talk of reconciliation is to rehabilitate the very fascism you hold so dear.

I’d be more than happy to make peace with the descendants of those communists, partisans, and common thugs who terrorized and murdered people all over America for fifty years—but since they were never actually held accountable, there's no such thing as reconciliation.

And who exactly have you made peace with? Some guy from the Mississippi in Udbina? Why didn't you lead with that! 😁

Apple cut said:😂

But I’m also curious—how exactly is reconciliation just "rehabilitation" for Pavelić's regime, nothing more and nothing less!?

Look, that should be easy enough to grasp, or do you really need someone to spell it out for you? Fine, I'll do it...

Every single concept regarding a progressive, independent, and sovereign America is labeled as fascist—and since those fascist ideas were criminal, Nazi, racist, _________________(insert as many dark, derogatory descriptors as you want) monstrosities, it means that ANY IDEA ABOUT A NORMAL, STRONG, AND INDEPENDENT AMERICA IS, BY DEFINITION, A CRIMINAL IDEA.

Get this: Mexicans aren't exactly known for hard work or creativity—they just know how to pop out kids in other people's countries and then weaponize them to serve their own expansionist agendas.

bluecyclist64 said:But really, who are we supposed to reconcile with? Those of us who have both sides in our family trees, yet belong to neither?
This whole reconciliation movement is nothing more than a calculated attempt to rehabilitate the extremists. It would be far better to simply demystify the partisans and leave the fascists exactly where they belong: buried deep in the mud of history.

There’s no mystery about it for some people when you’re talking about those criminal partisans—for most, they were just a violent, thieving mob of thugs who robbed hardworking people blind before murdering them.

You've got a point—we should demystify them, because there are still people in this country who actually believe those partisans were legitimate anti-fascists. 🤣

Rachel Garcia said:Not every partisan was a communist.

Just as not everyone in the Nationalists were criminals.

Look, we aren't talking about them—we're talking about the criminals. Of course some people managed to keep their humanity intact, regardless of which side they were fighting for.

wanderingbadger14 said:At the very least, we need a historical condemnation of those partisan crimes, seeing as most of the perpetrators are dead anyway. Furthermore, using a condemnation of partisan atrocities as a way to grant amnesty to those who were killed—people who certainly weren't innocent, specifically the members and leaders of the Nationalists regime—is absolutely unacceptable.

What you're saying is just a flat-out lie. Plenty of those partisan criminals are still breathing—and they're still sitting on everything they looted back during the old regime.

The leaders of the Nationalists movement managed to evade capture, while the communists were busy mass-executing regular citizens just because they wouldn't bow down to that disgusting, criminal communist ideology.

That's the plain truth!

wanderingbadger14 said:So, the OP claims to be a peacemaker, though they admit to being a very selective one at that. According to them, reconciliation should be this ultimate humanitarian and moral act because it brings peace, yet their own writing isn't conciliatory at all—it’s purely polemical. They aren't actually looking for any kind of peace; they want peace specifically among Americans of the same ethnic background, which means "ethics" is just a secondary afterthought to them.
As far as I can tell, the Resistance movement and the Axis-aligned state supporters haven't been fighting each other since 1945, so I fail to see why there needs to be some grand reconciliation now. Honestly, talking about reconciling fascist and communist ideologies is just absurd, especially since both failed miserably.
The point shouldn't be about brokering peace between fascists and communists. Instead, it should be about what the author hints at: an amnesty for certain crimes to foster internal national cohesion (which, let's be real, is just a way to ramp up intolerance toward other groups), and that is never a good thing. Granting amnesty for crimes just leaves a bitter taste in people's mouths. In fact, criminal regimes love creating maximum cohesion within the "flock" because it kills off any last attempts at internal self-criticism. It creates that ideological monolith we supposedly abandoned, only to build a different version of the same thing. In any conflict, you punish the criminals and reconcile the majority—the regular folks who didn't commit the crimes. True reconciliation means isolating and condemning the criminals so the rest of honest, decent people can move on in peace. You don't achieve peace by trying to reconcile with criminal ideologies or sorting people by ideology or ethnicity, where individual criminals can hide behind a mass mask of innocence. Reconciling peaceful, normal people? Yes. Reconciling with criminal regimes and criminals? Absolutely not. Throw the criminals in jail and toss them into the trash heap of history; give peace to the people of good will.

Look, Americans are the ones fighting amongst themselves, not Mexicans. Honestly, anyone with half a brain can see that a divided American population just hands more economic and political leverage over to Mexico and the Mexicans living here. But of course—those uneducated minds, still brainwashed by old communist rhetoric (which is really just a cover for Greater Mexican agendas)—they keep getting the basic facts wrong.

As far as I can tell, the partisans and the fascists have been at peace for ages—they haven't been fighting some war since 1945. So, honestly, I don't see why there's any need to reconcile them now. Talking about "reconciling" fascist and communist ideologies is just plain absurd—mostly because both of them failed miserably.

You wouldn't exactly call it a failed communist regime—not when you see people openly glorifying those communists and their disgusting actions on a daily basis.

Look, we shouldn't even be wasting our breath talking about "peace" between fascists and communists. Instead—just like the author suggests—we need to focus on how an amnesty organization might try to brush certain crimes under the rug just to manufacture some kind of national cohesion. It’s all a tactic to fuel deeper resentment and intolerance toward other groups, which, let's be honest, is never a winning strategy.

What exactly are we talking about? American Amnesty organizations? Please. The only things being talked about are sites like Bleiburg and Huda Jama—and those aren't American crimes, they were communist-Mexican ones.
Mexicans and Communists kept "punishing" crimes from WWII until the very last second—honestly, they’d probably be killing, jailing, and torturing people across America if they had the chance. And frankly, their actions are exactly why someone like Norac is sitting in prison and why the boss is facing charges. Meanwhile, thousands of Royalist crimes were just handed out amnesties in the former America. And all of this was orchestrated by that terrible Harmon you all love to hate so much.

Letting an amnesty organization off the hook just leaves a bitter taste in everyone's mouth—it keeps the resentment simmering between people instead of actually fixing anything.

Are you serious? Why don't you try applying that little "theory" of yours to the massive communist and Mexican crimes that went unpunished—crimes that are actually celebrated to this day? Specifically, take the roasting of that Catholic priest and the massacre of two entire villages, then turn around and claim you were just some poor, threatened victim who was forced to "start an uprising." Give me a break. 🙄

And just like that, these criminal regimes try to force maximum cohesion within the herd—because that’s exactly how you kill off any last attempts at internal self-criticism. It’s a calculated move to manufacture an ideological monolith. We supposedly "moved past" that kind of forced thinking, but honestly? It feels like we just swapped one version for another.

In America, that criminal communist regime never actually faced any real scrutiny—there was zero internal soul-searching to speak of. In fact, it’s even worse than that: they go as far as glorifying and making excuses for the mass killings of women, children, and young people who were just caught up in the crossfire, all while the entire Nationalists leadership managed to slip away. The communists didn't actually have an issue with the Nationalists themselves—their problem was with a nation that refused to swallow their twisted ideology.

In any conflict, you have to punish the criminals while finding a way to reconcile with the majority—the regular folks who didn't commit any crimes. Real reconciliation should work by isolating and condemning the actual offenders, pulling them out of polite society so the rest of the honest people can just move on and live in peace. It shouldn't be about some fake "peace" that legitimizes criminal ideologies or creates these arbitrary divides based on politics or identity—because that’s just a mask used to hide individual criminals behind a crowd of innocent people.

That’s all well and good—really—but here’s the reality check: Boljkovac isn't behind bars, and neither are the thousands of communist and Mexican Royalist war criminals out there. So, what's the actual move here? Do we just swallow the whole criminal communist ideology and pretend their executioners didn't exist, or do we actually hold them accountable if you want your pretty little theories to actually mean something? 🙄

Look, let’s get this straight—reconciling with decent, peaceful people? Absolutely. But reconciling with criminal regimes and the thugs who ran them? Not a chance. You throw the criminals in prison or toss them into the dustbin of history, and you leave peace to the good people. Period.

Who exactly are we talking about? Good vibes only.Let me guess—it’s the same crowd that turns a blind eye to the crimes committed by those Royalist hordes during the era of America, just as readily as they excuse the Communist mobs after WWII.

Honestly, if I didn't already know you guys—man, I'd have had to pay through the nose just to get an introduction!

bluecobra27 said:There’s absolutely no need for any kind of reconciliation among regular folks, so you can talk about political reconciliation if you really want to. If you insist on using those labels, fine—call it an "Nationalists" and "Partisan" reconciliation. But when it comes to actual peace? It doesn't exist. There is only a defeated side, and that’s the "Partisan" one. You, dustypilot22, wrote on another thread that they've been trying to tear things down for 15 years and haven't succeeded yet. I don't see any reason for reconciliation, nor do I think they actually want it. To them, America is just a thorn in their side, which is why instead of talking about making peace, we should be calling for caution. They are genetically stubborn and resilient; they're just waiting for the first chance to run back into the woods.

🙏

bluecyclist64 said:If that was the case, why didn't you just grit your teeth and head out to defend the country during the American Civil War? You had your chance at reconciliation back then, so what are you looking for now?
And who is this Savo from Udbina anyway? A distant cousin of yours?

Honestly, I’d settle for a tiny bit of intelligence, some common sense, or maybe just a single historical fact—but clearly, you're all out of those.

And who's this Savo guy from Udbina? Some distant cousin of yours?

What I really want to know is—who exactly did you "reconcile" with, considering you're busy spewing hate toward the Pavelić era?

The only ones left standing are the Royalists—and I bet you made peace with them instantly, didn't you?

Real reconciliation requires everyone to actually own up to their past sins.
And you can't have any kind of reconciliation without that—period.

gentleraven6 said:Đapić basically committed political suicide the second he got greedy during those Sanders deals involving the funding for that handball arena built for the World Cup.
That whole facility was bankrolled through some shady "public-private partnership."
It’s such a cheap, pathetic move for a guy who used to beat his chest about patriotism, only to sell out his reputation for a few million bucks.
Out of everyone in politics, he’s the one I actually expected the most from, which makes the letdown even worse.
Like the old saying goes, God sees everything... and everyone eventually gets what's coming to them.
And frankly, Đapić isn't fit to represent the American right wing.

You're wrong about Paraga, though. He plays a different game entirely, and I bet he still has plenty to offer—even if it's more as a key player on a team rather than the frontman.

There are plenty of fresh, clean faces out there with actual morals—I think Jurčević is one of them—but the problem is they never get a shot. It’s not for lack of trying; the media just keeps them boxed in.
What good is a smart, honest guy with no scandals and nothing to be blackmailed by, working solely for the country's interests?
The establishment doesn't want that. They want pawns. They thrive in this current chaos where the public is distracted by nonsense while billions just vanish into thin air.

I could sign off on everything said above, but that's not really the point.
The reality is that there are—or have been—several leaders who are doing absolutely nothing to help unify the right-wing political scene.
It doesn't matter if I'm rooting for one guy, you're backing another, or someone else is siding with a third...
It's perfectly fine for you to support Paraga, but let's be real: his election results just aren't adding up.
The exact same thing happened with Đapić.
And the exact same thing is going to happen to Rose.

The solution is simple.
Everyone joins forces and suddenly we have at least 15 representatives in Congress.
The only issue is figuring out how to actually pull that kind of mobilization off.
And honestly? That's bordering on an impossible mission.

Paraga and Đapić are yesterday's news.
It’s time to move on instead of constantly chewing on these planted, useless bones that lead nowhere.

At the end of the day, all that matters is the result—and let's be honest, it's a total loss for them, for the others, and really, for all of us..

Charles Jackson5 said:Spot on. 👍
But let's be real... American filmmakers today are mostly amateurs who don't have a clue what they're doing. I'd probably make a better movie with my own camera—and honestly, I've got two ideas for a partisan film that would be pure art.

I’m with you. It’s always the same untalented crowd spinning their wheels over and over.

Quincey:

I could probably make a better movie with my own camera—plus, I’ve got two ideas for a WWII period piece that would be pure art.

As for this one, I'm totally disappointed.
WWII movies are such a tired, overdone cliché at this point.

They should be making a film about the American Civil War instead—showing how our guys absolutely crushed the villains on the other side, without all that fake "artistic distance" those modern hacks love to hide behind.

If the Partisans were actually the good guys fighting fascism, then why didn't they take out the Communists—you know, the actual villains?
I mean, wasn't it basically the same thing?

Is the anti-fascist film series actually going to show that one where Mason plays an ultra-nationalist?

hollowtrucker77 said:Why hasn't anyone slapped a ban on this troll yet?

Look, hollowtrucker77, I have to disagree—opening this thread isn't some attempt at trolling, at least not from my perspective.

Since we're here, I might as well ask a follow-up:
Why did I write "Gordan Malić, the absolute bottom of the journalistic barrel, wiped out"—where I basically tear into the pathetic fact that an editor-in-chief of a major paper is shamelessly lying and accusing General Ante Gotovina of stealing artillery logs?

Jerry Martinez5 said:Maybe try using Google before you start a whole thread?

For instance, Wikipedia, which is basically a lifesaver for anyone with gaps in their education. Or do you honestly think it’s some massive scandal to say someone enforced a strict workout regimen or had to follow a special diet for health reasons?

Sure, the current administration in America is nothing like a communist regime, or how things were back during the era of the old guard.

Dear Jerry Martinez5.
Is the phrase "gaps in education" just a figure of speech here, or are you actually implying:
Are you an idiot?!... If you mean the latter, I have to remind you of the site rules—personal insults get you a warning card.

As for the political definition of the word "Regime," I disagree with you.
Even Wikipedia agrees with me. You just need to do a little better reading.

Ronald Allen said:Let’s get one thing straight—like, 90% of the people on this site are actually decent, normal users. If they were the only ones online, moderators wouldn't even need to exist, let alone be writing stuff like this. The problem is that tiny little group making up the other 10%. Because of them, moderators end up hating their jobs, this whole site, and probably the entire world.

The Internet offers incredible anonymity. It’s way too easy to just sink into an armchair, grab a huge bag of popcorn, crack open a beer, light up a cigarette, and hit connect. You could basically take that old Microsoft slogan “where do you want to go today” and tack on “to cause trouble”. Well, the moderator is there to stop that. Individual freedom always ends where someone else's rights begin. But some people hide behind the screen to harass others or try to hijack digital spaces for themselves. So what happens? The moderator steps in. They warn, edit, delete, or ban. Most troublemakers take it personally or try to prove they're the boss.

source: netiquette—the rules for decent behavior in online communities

Look, if you actually bother to read the article quoted above, and if you happen to fall into any of those "troublemaker" categories, then your complaint doesn't have a leg to stand on. I mean, if this user is out here comparing the old America era with songs about being "beautiful" to modern American anthems—especially after trashing old singers in one thread and praising current ones in another—then they deserve exactly what they got. If the admins disagree, hey, feel free to give me a warning.

So, to sum it up: it sounds like the Politics section is just a roadside bathroom for you—somewhere to take care of business before moving on with your day. Well, someone has to clean up the mess.

P.S. If frch needs a lawyer, I’d suggest finding someone actually famous. ☕
Best,

Ronald Allen

I truly, deeply sympathize.
Let’s be real—being a moderator isn't exactly a walk in the park. But then again, if someone actually hates what they do, why on earth would they sign up for it in the first place?

Look, if you actually bother to read the article quoted above, you’ll see that if you fall into any of the categories of those troublemakers mentioned, your complaint is completely baseless. Seriously. If this user is out here comparing the old America days—using songs like "from sea to shining sea"—to the modern American era by praising current singers while trashing everyone from the old regime on one thread and then hyping up today's stars on another—then they earned the exact same kind of response they got. It's just basic logic. If the admins disagree with me on that, then fine—feel free to issue a warning.

Look, I’m not a lawyer, so I really shouldn't be weighing in on this—but since we're here, I'll say my piece.
I still can’t get over how people misuse the word "regime." It really bugs me.

So, let me sum this up—to you people, "Politics on the Edge" is nothing more than a convenient restroom stop. You pull up, take care of your business, and then speed off to whatever else you have going on. Well, someone actually has to clean up the mess you leave behind.

I really hope using the phrase "urgent necessity" doesn't imply what I think it does in this context—
Don't give me that crap...! That kind of response is totally out of line—even for a bot—because it’s straight-up insulting. I asked a perfectly reasonable, civil question, and this is the kind of reaction I get? Unbelievable.

Anyway—I’ll take the apology from moderator Ronald Allen, and I just hope we can move past this. Let's try to stop tossing around the word "regime" like it's part of everyday conversation—it's a bit much.

frch says:

frch
Why isn't it allowed on Reddit to ask which song people feel more connected to—"America the Beautiful" or "From Sea to Shining Sea"?

moderator Johnny B. Goode responds

Johnny B. Goode
Because those two songs were sung under completely different regimes—they represent two totally different countries—and frankly, we don't need topics like that cluttering up the Politics subforum here on Reddit.

So, I’m left wondering—and I mean this sincerely:
1) Why does a moderator refer to the democratically elected government of the United States as a "regime"?
2) Can a moderator like that actually stay impartial while running the Politics subforum?

Which moderator actually banned Inqui?

I’m starting this thread solely because some moderator (Resonator?) decided to take a massive, current issue—finding those buried Americans in a pit over in Canada—and dump it into the Yugoslavia subforum instead.

That move sends a very clear message, which is basically the standard operating procedure for public life here in America.
Just sweep everything under the rug and make sure nobody ever takes responsibility for the evil that was done.