Don't get worked up about it. Instead, we should just block Mexico from joining the European Union entirely. We need to keep them out as long as they keep pushing that fascist ideology, as long as they keep stealing citizens from the Republic of America (like the Marić case), and as long as they kill our people by refusing to hand over landmine maps. We can't let them occupy our territory or dodge paying reparations. Basically, we stay shut until they stop acting like they're at war...
Of course, with this current administration, that’s probably never going to happen. But maybe if we actually learned our lesson after Joe Biden, we'd finally start using our heads. And that guy—the one who was busy undermining the Republic of America right in the middle of the United Nations just a month ago—he showed up in Washington, D.C. today specifically to make sure things don't go that way...
Paul Kern12 said:You totally missed the mark calling me a "Jehovah's Witness." And look, I'm not saying Catholics are part of some "Satanic nest" or anything like that.
So, what sect are you actually in then?
Anyway, you don't really have anything to do with the Church of Jesus Christ. That’s strictly a Catholic thing. To us, all sects are just heretics, so I guess I don't see why you're putting me and yourself in the same boat...
Look, Paul Kern12, you aren't even Catholic. You're one of those Jehovah's Witnesses who thinks the Catholic Church is basically Satan's playground, which is why you look at us Catholics like that. Honestly, you're trying to play both sides, but you've pretty much walled yourself off from us with barbed wire...
rustydrifter10, let's just chill out for a second. Any chance you could send me that last joke again? It wasn't actually that dark, and maybe if we have it, we can just wrap this whole argument up quickly and move on.
nimblewalker58 said:General religious stuff that doesn't dive deep into theology is always better handled over in politics or social sciences.
If you want to get into heavy theological debates, then maybe head over to the small council forums.
Sorry, but that’s just how things work here.
Religion isn't segmented off here, and the mods are mostly made up of people with agnostic leanings. You see Muslims and Jews complaining about the same thing—they might be slightly more protected, but they don't really push the religious angle much—not to mention all the different sects. It hasn't changed in ten years, so yeah, that's just the policy of this American forum.
Just being honest. Adapt or move on.
How does any of that even relate to what I'm actually saying?
I've already adapted to having my faith—and basically me—insulted here in the worst ways possible. Honestly, seeing a string of atheist attacks on Jesus Christ is almost funny to me, I guess. Not the super offensive ones, but I'm used to them. It doesn't even cross my mind to complain when someone insults the Virgin Mary; I only bring it up to show you how things really stand. And the reality is, religion is the only place on this site where you can't even say Merry Christmas normally, because the moderator Ego decided to turn the holiday greeting thread into some kind of roast session...
That's not even the point. The point is that this whole religion section has been turned into an atheist bunker where you aren't allowed to touch atheism.SO IT'S A SUPPRESSION OF FREE SPEECH!!! So, the problem is actually the exact opposite of what you were trying to explain to me...
People are allowed to pick fights about everything except atheists. Everything is fair game 24/7, except for atheism. Atheists used to brag about how it wasn't even possible to mock them, or even write jokes about them...
But the second someone finds a way, boom, here comes the entire squadron of forum atheists ready to spend the next week convincing you that it wasn't funny, it wasn't a joke, it was sick, it was an insult, and whatever other nonsense they need to spout. There's no limit to the crap they're capable of saying once they start...
So you’re telling me that joking about this—about the head—is too terrifying to even say out loud?
But honestly, that’s what atheists actually believe. If I’m some degenerate just for making a joke about it, then what does that make the people who actually hold those views as their absolute truth?
If my kid ever asks me where his head is going to be in a hundred years, I’d tell him:
"Up in heaven, in Paradise..."
But what can an atheist tell their kid?
Well, in the grave, I guess. Where else...🤷
When I really sit and think about it, I start cracking up. I'm literally shaking in my chair laughing...
So why shouldn't I have the right to poke fun at you atheists like that?
Are you guys really that arrogant?
Can't you take a joke?
And yet, you all seem perfectly happy to write your little posts mocking everything we Catholics hold sacred...
If this wasn't about atheists, nobody would even blink. But if it were about Catholicism, the mods would defend it until their last breath, claiming it's all about free speech. I mean, we all saw how the entire mod team teamed up to defend calling the Virgin Mary a Virgin Mary bitch. Basically, the mods decided that atheists have every right to call the Virgin Mary a bitch, and that it isn't trolling. So, apparently, it isn't trolling when people who don't even believe the Virgin Mary was a historical figure go out of their way to argue she was a bitch. They don't even think anyone can prove the Virgin Mary existed, but they really believe they can argue she was a bitch...
So, yeah, the mods are trolling. It seems they just want to trample on and insult the image of the Virgin Mary on this forum as much as possible...
Anyway, Grace Kim80 concluded my jokes were about religion here:
And...
Grace Kim80 said:Exactly. You shouldn't come to a religion sub and, in an environment like this, joke about dead children under the guise of atheist criticism. It's misplaced, it's ugly, and posts like that don't belong here.
So, according to Grace Kim80, I'm writing these jokes because I have something against dead atheist children......
The jokes are, according to Grace Kim80, just a COVER for my hatred toward dead atheist children...
I guess when it comes to defending your precious atheism, you aren't afraid to spout the biggest nonsense imaginable...
Romani don't necessarily believe that death is the final word or that they'll never see their loved ones again...
But atheists? They definitely believe that...
I mean, when an angry atheist finally snaps, they might just end up telling a little kid exactly what they're really thinking...
Personally, I find that pretty hilarious...
And look, I believe you when you say this joke isn't funny to atheists. It doesn't even have to be funny to people who aren't atheists, but whatever...
I remember this joke my uncle used to tell back in the day, before everything changed. It’s basically me making fun of how atheists think death is the absolute end and they'll never see their loved ones again...
The working title for this one is "head"...
So, an atheist family is having lunch. Everyone's at the table waiting for Mom to serve the food. While the dad is sitting there, his daughter is playing under the table, and honestly, it's starting to get on this hungry guy's nerves...
Daughter:
Dad, guess which side of the table I'm gonna poke my head out from next?
Dad:
From the right side...
Daughter:
How about now?
Dad:
On the left side...
Daughter:
And now?
Dad:
Back to the right side...
The daughter is really starting to push her dad's buttons here...
Daughter:
Dad, so which side am I poking my head out from in five minutes?
Dad:
From the left side...
Daughter:
What about now?
Dad:
Again from the left side...
Daughter:
Well, where am I poking my head out at four in the afternoon?
Dad:
From the right side...
Daughter:
Dad, where am I poking my head out in a hundred years?
As believers, we aren't allowed to crack jokes about the implications of the stuff most atheists believe in. It’s been like this for a long time, and I’m not just saying that—other believers have had their jokes deleted too, and they even get sent nasty threats if they keep making fun of atheists...
All those questions about the meaning of life, death, or nothingness that eventually swallow us all—all that atheist nonsense is banned just so we don't offend them. Meanwhile, the moderators call us Catholics a criminal organization (moderator Ego...), not to mention the daily insults thrown at our Lord Jesus Christ. When atheists constantly call Jesus a monster, they're basically calling all of us who believe in him monsters too. I mean, if we agree with Jesus and the Bible, then we're obviously just as much monsters as he is. But hey, that's freedom of speech, right?
Then we constantly hear people whining that these jokes aren't funny. Well, how is an atheist supposed to find them funny? That would be like telling a Mexican it's funny to hear a joke about Americans mocking them for being crushed during Hurricane Katrina. Of course, to really get some of these jokes, you have to follow the debates happening in the religion sub-forum to understand what's actually going on. Again, if you don't grasp certain views on life during a debate, maybe you won't understand why something is funny. Just like how some atheists don't understand my way of speaking, they don't get what I'm laughing at later. But honestly, atheists usually get exactly what I'm laughing at, and that's probably why it bothers them so much...
And then we hear the complaining that the jokes are "sick." But these jokes are based on atheist conclusions and atheist beliefs. To say they're sick is basically saying that various atheist convictions and conclusions are sick...
And all of this stems from the moderation, which announced that calling the Virgin Mary bitch in the religion sub-forum wouldn't be considered trolling...
So, they call our mother a bitch, and we aren't even allowed to write a crappy little joke about them?
I'm asking for the last two jokes I wrote in the religion sub-forum to be restored...
bluecyclist64 said:And why on earth would you want to see them without police protection? Are you worried some bald neo-fascists might jump them? Is there any other reason behind that desire of yours?
Based on how you described it, it sounds like we're talking about a tiny handful of protesters, right? So why would anyone pay such a small group? If someone wanted to stage a real demonstration, wouldn't they just pay a massive crowd instead? And who is this supposed benefactor? If it were the usual Illuminati suspects, they would have gathered a crowd ten times that size.
Besides, where did you even get the idea that these protesters were claiming to speak for America? That seems like a bit of a stretch, don't you think?
What good is a police escort for them anyway?
The ZO-o crowd claims they're acting in the best interests of most citizens in this country...
They claim to represent the majority, yet they need a police escort just to hold a rally?
The conclusion is pretty obvious—they don't even believe themselves when they say they're working for the people...
Maybe so they don't get soaked by some bald neo-fascists?
So now people protesting against ZO-o are "bald anti-fascists" to you?
If I were in this debate and used even a mildly insulting sentence toward the ZO-o crowd, I’d probably get banned...
And where did you even get the idea that the protesters claimed they represent America?
That's actually a fair question...
Where does anyone get the notion that the ZO-o group represents America?
It feels like a paid protest based on the attachments.
🙂
Great! The outcasts will be thrilled! 🤣
So, someone needs police protection just for having an opinion, and you think that's perfectly normal—you even say you'd "prefer to see them without police protection." Isn't that just tacitly supporting whatever might happen if the police weren't there?
Why would anyone need to hide from the police when Catholics are all about love and understanding? Who exactly are they hiding from by using the police as a shield? 🙂
Lucky for you, that part seems irrelevant to you...
So, someone needs police protection just for having an opinion, and you actually think that’s totally fine—you even said you'd "love to see them without police protection." Isn't that basically just endorsing whatever might happen if they didn't have those cops there?
Implications, implications, implications...
That's what I actually wrote to you, not what you wanted me to say...
Well, why are they hiding behind the police if Catholics are all about love and understanding? Who exactly are they trying to hide from?
hiddenlynx66 said:So, you aren't actually claiming that the gathering required a fee?
If you want my personal information, I will gladly send it via private message. I look forward to seeing you in court; it would be my pleasure.
What exactly are you trying to say here? Are you actually advocating for violence? Does it genuinely make you happy that someone with a different opinion has to be protected by the police? 🙂
No, I didn't...
I just said that’s how it comes across based on what was posted...
If you want my personal info, I'll just DM it to you myself. We can see each other in court, and honestly, I'm down for that, even though:
If someone tries to sue me, I'm suing you back. And I'll sue whoever decides to sue me. Glad you're being so helpful and offering to hand over your details personally...
What are you actually trying to get at here? Are you supporting violence? Does it make you happy that the police have to protect people just because they think differently?
Can you not talk without constantly implying total garbage?
If someone claims this whole campaign is for our own good and that it's what everyone wants, but then they need a police escort for their own rally, I wouldn't waste a single second on them. It's pretty obvious they don't even believe they're acting in the interest of the majority...
It's clear as day...
If you find one single post of mine with that kind of content, feel free to sue me. I'll gladly send over my personal information.
I'm not like you...
But if I'm ever forced into a position where I have to act like you, I will...
I never doubted for a second that you're one of those people who divides the world into "us" versus "them." Nothing else. It's a disaster!
Catholics aren't the ones building walls in this society, because we don't need them...
The walls are built by the people who want to legally force Catholics to listen to certain doctrines, and then hide behind the police...
Basically, this entire campaign feels like a total scam...