Posts by frozenowl3

I have hard evidence against one of the moderators, yet you people keep trying to silence me. But I’m not going anywhere.

You won't let anyone else weigh in, and you're always far too quick to hit that "closed" button.

As for our argument—don't think for a second that it was settled just because you decided it was. Nothing was actually resolved; you simply clicked "closed," effectively cutting off my ability to respond.

If two mods were recently removed, then perhaps you all might finally realize who is actually in the wrong here.

Unless you fear the truth, you will let the rest of the forum users comment.

You can try to silence me, but I’ve got the receipts.

It’s frankly baffling how someone with such a pathetic post count even holds a moderator position, yet here they are, posting this: http://d.pr/i/QaoK—an outright insult directed at the Pride parade and everyone who stands with them.

We always tell the mods they should probably step away from the keyboard when they're feeling heated, lest they lash out and end up facing a ban or a strike themselves.

In another thread, we actually reached a consensus that this particular individual was simply acting out of pure frustration, fueled by anger, and lashed out online because they couldn't control themselves.

Have some integrity and let the rest of the community weigh in on this.

Thanks.

Karen Rodriguez3 said:What does this thread and its posts have to do with the deletions over on that other thread about the Pentagon? You’re trolling, and you're doing it on a massive scale. Not to mention, I don't believe anything was actually deleted.
It isn't what you consider an insult that matters; it's what society deems offensive, and the moderators or admins decide that's where the line is drawn.
Having a dissenting opinion or being provocative isn't the same thing as being insulting.

I am literally begging for someone else to step in because this moderator clearly doesn't grasp the issue...

Let me try explaining this one more time:

This specific thread is a perfect mirror of what happened to me on the thread I started regarding the Pentagon. Essentially, I was dealing with several fans of the FBI who were relentlessly harassing me. After the first insult, I left that thread and linked the post here. Then, another moderator repeated the tired old cliché that "there's nobody here now" and wiped my comments (whether it was him or someone else, I can't say).

This is what worries me—if there's no accountability within NATO, how is anyone supposed to get a reaction? I reported the posts, but absolutely nothing happens.

When someone hits you with a casual, dismissive remark like:
"You're just that annoying person from the NATO thread," while they know damn well I'm consistently fighting for gay rights on a forum that is constantly suppressed by the FBI, that's an insult to me. It's also a blatant invitation to fight—it's a textbook insult that warrants a ban. Maybe I am being annoying to you because I keep complaining and you don't get it, but an insult is an insult, and there's nothing more I can do.

If you think trolling is just "fighting for rights," then fine, I'm a troll. It's always easiest for you moderators to just label someone a troll so you can wash your hands of the whole mess.

Aside from the fact that I don't think anything was deleted.

You think, but I know 😉

Having a dissenting opinion or being provocative isn't the same thing as being insulting.

In this instance, we aren't talking about a difference of opinion; it's obvious you haven't looked at the core of the matter.
Provocation isn't an insult? Oh, Google, that's a nasty way to look at it.

You've just opened Pandora's box here; you already have a thread about this.

Example:
User A: "You're such a little man, you clearly lack any intelligence..."
(User B reacts to that)
User B: "Whatever, you're just stupid..."
B gets banned because NOBODY likes being humiliated, and everyone wants to hit back...

Example 2:
User A: "Wow, looking at your posts (addressing the mod), it's clear you don't possess much intellect..."
Moderator: (bans user)

You people are a protected species on this forum. ☕ And frankly, it's an eyesore to the rest of us.

I’ve been insulted right here on this board, yet you wiped my posts instead. What part of this is too difficult to grasp?

You’re attempting to censor things that shouldn't be subject to censorship in the first place.
From here on out, I intend to be incredibly sharp with users on certain Adobe files; I’ll insult them, but I'll do it in a way that allows for plausible deniability:

it isn't an insult if you simply choose to perceive it as one.

And by your twisted logic, this forum will become a much more pleasant place. Bravo.

To be perfectly clear, I was specifically linking posts directed at me that were outright insults—deliberate provocations designed to bait a response so I’d get banned. I didn't start anything, but the insult remains right there on the screen.

Just because you don't like an opinion doesn't mean it's an insult.

HahaHAHHAHAHAHAH, what kind of twisted logic is that?
So, if someone calls you a complete idiot and tells you to go to hell,

that's just an "opinion" you happen to dislike? You people are absolutely brilliant. Truly. Sending my love!

You guys deleted my posts (please, I’m begging you)

I clearly directed you toward this specific thread yet despite what Karen Rodriguez3 wrote at the end, there hasn't been a single disciplinary action taken. I was forced to deal with several individuals who were relentlessly insulting me. When are the sanctions actually going to happen?

Oh, naturally, that’s how it looks—you'll all just cross your arms and go right back to surfing the web like nothing happened...

frozenowl3 said:You deleted my post. Bravo. Truly impressive work.

I can't believe we're still debating this. It’s almost comical how much energy people pour into such a fundamentally flawed premise. Honestly, I’ve seen more logical reasoning in a late-night infomercial than in some of these arguments. Look, I remember sitting in a lecture hall back in college, listening to a professor drone on about economic theory, and even then, the sheer lack of practical application was glaring. We're doing the same thing here. You can dress up the data all you want, but if the underlying foundation is cracked, the whole structure is going to collapse eventually. It’s just basic math at this point. rustydrifter10 seems to think there’s some hidden nuance being missed, but let’s be real: there isn't. It’s a straightforward issue that everyone is overcomplicating to feel important. We need to stop dancing around the obvious and actually address the core problem instead of chasing these endless, superficial tangents.

rustydrifter10, sort this yellow card situation out right now. I’ve already got the email drafted and sitting there; all I need is for you to give me the green light so I can finally hit send.

By the way, I have officially reported the insults directed at me in this thread, and I fully expect the necessary disciplinary actions to be taken against the offender.

I suspect nobody will actually have the bandwidth to sit down and review the entire thing today. If this isn't fully sorted out by midnight, I’m sending out an email.

My post was deleted. Bravo. Real class act.

Come on, rustydrifter10, deal with this yellow card right now. I've already got my email drafted and sitting there; all I have to do is hit send.

Aaron Harris2 said:Look,
I check this thread periodically, mostly as a preventative measure rather than out of a deep fascination with the subject matter itself. I’ve noticed certain things over the last few weeks since it went live, though I haven't caught everything. Why? Because I don't read every single post. It isn't my job to sift through every PDF I moderate, and frankly, I don't have the bandwidth for it. My involvement—whether it's archiving or using other administrative tools—typically happens after a report is filed, which is exactly what I'm suggesting to all the well-meaning users here.
Once reports come in, we generally clear out the garbage, the insults, and the nonsense. In fact, several posts were scrubbed or archived within the last 24 hours. One user actually racked up 1,000 points just by making two posts that triggered those penalties.
I honestly wish you had just waited until morning—say, after 8:00 AM instead of filing reports at 3:00 AM and then immediately rushing here to start a new thread one minute later. You could have also just sent me or another moderator a private message.

I’ve been waiting over a week for any kind of reaction to this thread. I spotted the issue on the forum immediately, so the suggestion that I should have waited "a few more hours" doesn't hold water; I waited for many, many hours and absolutely nothing happened.

My intention was to open this thread specifically to get the controversial one locked down because it violates US federal laws, and given the nature of the title, it's the kind of thing that could bring the FBI right to our doorstep. Advocacy groups report this kind of stuff all the time. While reading through, I ran into some incredibly disrespectful posts, so I reported them. Regardless, I assumed no one would be penalized anyway, seeing as one guy who actually had the nerve to say this shouldn't be planned was already slapped with a red card.

It's baffling to me that you even allow something like this to remain active on the forum. The whole point is that you saw the thread. If you were acting as a competent moderator, you should have realized it violated the law, locked the thread, issued a red card to the author, and moved on.

You’re an absolute disgrace, and a perfect example of just how rotten American society has become.

I couldn't find another thread where I could vent this... My eyes are absolutely streaming with tears right now.

I can't help but wonder if there was actually a valid reason for shutting this thread down.

• Violations of US law (specifically regarding hate speech or discrimination, justifying or glorifying criminal acts, copyright infringement, pedophilia, animal cruelty, etc.)

The very first person to complain about this thread was slapped with a ban.

Is it even necessary to point out that these kinds of antics usually end with the police getting involved?

While the opening post outlines the legal boundaries, if you follow how the thread is progressing, you'll see blatant calls for physical violence, for instance:

technotronic said:Grab some ice from LED, freeze some water, and just coat the whole damn path in ice, so everyone can go ahead and break their legs.

The thread should be OFF, but one female user was clearly losing her mind over the topic and received this response: Honestly, how disgusting. What kind of conversation is that?

This entire discussion is saturated with extreme discrimination.
Now, I suppose you'll argue that punishing a child for being MK is somehow "above" the rules of the Forum?

What you’re actually witnessing isn't aggression; it’s pure, unadulterated disillusionment with the system.

You heterosexual types are the truly aggressive ones, constantly hammering on about how we need "healing" or labeling us as some kind of pathology—it feels incredibly violent and intrusive to me. And besides, since when did you all develop telepathy? How exactly do you claim to know the exact "tone" I'm using when I speak?

You’re honestly laughable. As far as this forum moderation goes, I give it a zero out of ten.

P.S. On another note, aside from the first few pages, I've had trolls trying to lecture me on whether homosexuality is curable in threads that have absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand. And you people just let them stay? You call yourselves moderators?

I’ve been quietly reading through the posts that actually offer some substance, though I haven't felt the need to reply to every single one. I was simply gathering more information.

I know exactly what the issue is here: you think I'm just some troll and you're trying to push me out because you find it impossible to wrap your heads around the fact that a lesbian would actually want to attend church in America!

Even within this specific thread, I am being met with nothing but pure intolerance. It's shameful, and frankly, it makes me sick to live in a society like this.

Why don't you just create a dedicated "gay and lesbian" corner? We can take our discussions over there, and if anyone decides to barge in preaching about "cures" or illnesses, you can ban them for good. Then you won't have to deal with these kinds of headaches anymore.

Brenda Cook4, if you truly believe that not a single person here deserves a warning, then you have no business being a moderator.

Goodbye.

- Insulting behavior; this is how flame wars start.
quoting: "homosexuality is a disorder, but it can be cured"

- Claiming I am Satan or the devil... basically implying that being gay is synonymous with being evil.

- Moving into off-topic territory by drawing a parallel between being gay and pedophilia, which is an outright insult.
- Off-topic

- They clearly haven't even read the thread. Now they're claiming being a lesbian is just popular because of The L Word. They're sniffing out a flame war; if my answer isn't sufficient, they'll just jump to stupid conclusions and provocation.
- Off-topic
- Off-topic
(People are actually debating The L Word on a religion thread...)
- Off-topic

- Going off-topic regarding the subject
- Off-topic

- I find terms like "faggot" and "derp" insulting.

- Just a massive amount of quoting without substance; a complete derailment.

- Off-topic

- Great, more talk about pedophilia.

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This is offensive to me; it has nothing to do with the topic and it's off-topic.

- Pedophilia again.

- This individual needs to be sent to a psychiatrist—forgive me for speaking my mind.
And here we go again with the pedophilia talk.

- More pedophilia... what was that title again? I can't recall.

- Pedophilia? Yes.

I could list every single post here since they are all off-topic. It's a massive derailment because people keep bringing up pedophilia instead of staying on the topic, which isn't even as mild as The L Word! You can look at the posts above yourselves, but I've already given you the most biting summary. That's that.

- More intense homophobia, back to the "healing" nonsense again. Disgusting.

- That "healer" doctor is at it again—they’re even bringing up Mengele now. Chilling.

They're claiming I'm Satan, or rather, that there's some kind of Satanic chain around me and that I'm not "normal."

The "healer" strikes again.

There's even more on the previous page...
So, they've officially pivoted to attacking GAYS AND PARENTING. ☕

Calling me mentally unstable and preaching about "cures" once more.
And right here, too.

They've even veered off into talking about Texas Hold'em poker on this page.

Ad hominem?

THIS ON THE FORUM: when we discuss homosexuality as a disorder, we have to understand it doesn't fall into the category of serious mental illnesses—actual diseases like schizophrenia, which in its various forms is a truly grave issue and, in certain cases, essentially incurable...

He called me unintelligent and stupid right here.
And I gave him a taste of his own medicine over here.
Since the moderator explicitly told me to mention that, fine—enjoy it, revel in it if you want. If anyone actually cares about justice, isn't 99% of this thread a red card offense for off-topic rambling, or am I going to have to quote the rulebook?

I've covered maybe 30% of this thread because most of it is just pure spam after the first few pages. If you think you're dealing with an idiot, you're mistaken—this isn't okay. People get banned for much more benign things, yet this is allowed to slide? Am I expected to endure this level of garbage and harassment both on the streets and here? Ha!

Are you seriously asking me to report fifty different posts? If I go through with that, are you actually going to step up and do something about it?

rustydrifter10 said:The conversation has drifted pretty far from the original topic, but I don't see any reason to shut the whole thread down.

However, there is definitely a reason to sanction the offensive posts.

The community guidelines clearly state that insults aren't allowed.

Brenda Cook4 said:To be honest, I’m starting to wonder if this entire thread is just you trolling; I'm not entirely convinced it isn't. If it isn't, look, you actually have some decent answers and questions on the last page now, so let's try to get back on track with what you originally asked. Try to say something more about God, or attempt to explain your faith—since you mentioned you've "never read the Bible"—and take a theological approach to the question, assuming it was actually posed sincerely on the Religion subforum.

I would have phrased it more gracefully: the self-appointed moral police showed up and started throwing insults. Personally, this thread has become too depressing to read, so I don't even bother opening it anymore. There were a couple of insults where I actually stooped to their level and fired back, so feel free to hand out a warning to me as well as them—I won't complain.

And by the way, I've tried reading the Bible a few times, but I found it incredibly boring. What am I supposed to do about that? Not everything is found in the Bible.

If you count me, there are three women here whose posts don't even belong in this thread. You really ought to think before you post.