Gold: Past, Present, and Future
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The idea of quantitative easing could dim prices
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analogharbor44 said:And what happens when the grid goes down, you're sitting on a pile of scrap metal, and the local Walmart can't even sell you groceries because their registers are dead?😂
Robert Vaughn10 said:Once cash loses its value, it might actually become interesting because interest rates would have to climb. For instance, if you’re holding ten-year Treasuries yielding 10% while inflation is hovering at 15%, that could look like a massive win if the government manages to slash the deficit and stall inflation in the meantime. It’s a plausible scenario; they won't have the money to spend anyway, so deflationary pressures will linger, keeping cash somewhat valuable. Creating enough capacity for hyperinflation is difficult when most people are broke.
If a new credit cycle were to somehow kickstart itself, the story changes entirely.
On the other hand, it's unlikely that stocks will fall significantly below the value of cash in an inflationary environment. You just need to identify which stocks are undervalued, much like how gold and silver were positioned around 2000.
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Benjamin King2 said:Honestly, just buy out a whole poultry farm and turn all those chickens into solid gold—I promise you nobody is going to be scanning individual birds with a metal detector. 😁
Quote:This move is particularly glaring because, technically, you don't need a permit just to own gold in the States; you only need one if you're actually in the business of selling it. BUT, since every purchase of investment-grade gold is recorded at the point of sale, the Treasury can easily track who owns what. To me, it all looks like they are laying the groundwork for potential confiscation measures—making it a very real possibility.
Back in March, the Jersey-based precious metals dealer “Goldmoney” informed its American clients that they would temporarily stop opening new accounts for U.S. residents. Existing accounts could still carry out transactions. This was due to an upcoming regulatory change by the SEC.
Fast forward six months, and that "temporary" freeze on new accounts has become permanent. Goldmoney is currently locked in a legal battle with the SEC, which argues that a specific license is required to sell gold to American citizens.
In March of this year, Goldmoney, which is based out of Jersey, decided that American citizens could no longer open accounts with them for trading metals. This decision followed the implementation of a controversial rule introduced by the SEC—something similar to the FINRA. Existing accounts seem to be functioning without issue for now.
We are now six months down the line, and Goldmoney has shifted its stance from a "temporary" restriction to a permanent one. They are essentially clashing with the SEC, which maintains that selling or holding gold requires formal authorization for Americans.
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Personally, I don't see much sense in playing along with these absurd rules. [I'm calling it now! 🙂 ]
So, buying through another country or using a different passport isn't some wild exaggeration; it's just reacting to the reality of the situation.
Anthony Evans78 said:Andrew Barrett4, just a couple of quick thoughts from my side 🙂
If you're looking to lose as little as possible over the next decade, nothing beats holding physical precious metals. At the very least, you’ll preserve your purchasing power, and if everything completely falls apart... well, all bets are off 🙂
Secondly, getting your hands on the physical stuff is actually pretty easy nowadays; you just have to do a little digging. It was easy even back when things were uncertain here before we joined the United Nations. And if you have to look outside the country, you don't even need to 😁
dustyheron5 said:Well done—you have the mindset of a serious investor. You might not strike it rich overnight, but your grasp of the fundamentals is solid.🎉 Just stay away from those "finfluencers" who preach putting everything into one single asset; if you follow them, you're asking for trouble.😂
Anthony Evans78 said:If I buy one gram every month, does that mean each individual gram comes with its own certificate and sits in some vault somewhere?
Do I need to schedule an appointment? Why would I need to do that?
Robert Vaughn10 said:Velocity could continue its descent; what actually matters is the scale of that drop relative to inflation. Take the US, for instance—if we used the pre-1980 Federal Reserve methodology, inflation would have been sitting around 6% back in early 2012. That discrepancy alone highlights just how much money was printed, considering prices should have plummeted given the falling velocity and the contraction in the money supply.
dustyheron5 said:http://www.alsosprachanalyst.com/eco...f-control.html
A few telling statements from the mainstream media—all pointing toward a coordinated effort by the world's major central banks to implement massive monetary easing.
Paul Peterson4 said:There’s a pretty interesting angle to this whole Dollar vs Euro debate: it really comes down to who's going to blink first. The US is running this massive trade deficit, whereas the EU is a bit of a mixed bag—you've got Northern Europe exporting everything while Mediterranean countries import most of their stuff. But overall, the EU manages to cover its own demand for goods and materials through domestic production, while the US is basically stuck depending on Chinese people and others to supply them with goods in exchange for those greenbacks.
All the major currencies right now—Dollar, Euro, Pound, Renminbi, you name it—are essentially being "printed." Or, more accurately, we're seeing massive amounts of money being digitally generated without any real backing (well, if you count newly issued government bonds as backing). It feels like we're drifting toward that Nostradamus idea of funding a state budget through primary issuance—except, obviously, there are banks in the middle taking their cut, often state-run ones at that. Unless some miracle happens and the economy just takes off, it's a safe bet that cranking out new money will lead to inflation. I'm not talking about that crazy, hyperinflationary mess you saw in America, but we're looking at maybe 5%, 10%, or even 15% annual inflation—though they'll probably try to hide the true scale using some shady statistical gymnastics early on.
For now, I’m sticking with the Euro since my expenses are in Euros, and honestly, I find it more stable than the Dollar. If the Arabs & CO start selling oil for something other than USD—and hey, the Iranians are already doing it—then the US printing press won't be able to tax the entire world anymore. That would trigger even bigger trade issues because, frankly, the US won't have much left to pay for imports. They'll be forced to bring manufacturing back to the States, which is going to be an expensive, long-term headache. As it stands, the Fed is basically the biggest buyer of T-bills. Once the Chinese stop buying them, pretty much everyone else might follow suit.
The pension fund situation is also worth watching. Traditionally, one of the largest institutional investors stays well away from PM. Lately, though, they've been taking heavy hits on government bonds—which are supposed to be the "safe" bet, assuming you follow the legal mandates on where that capital can go. If they even direct a tiny fraction of their capital toward PM, it could send the price skyrocketing. Right now, they're struggling to find decent places to park money; between playing poker with the Greeks and worrying about the Spanish, they're facing actual negative interest rates from the Germans. At this rate, they'll be handing out starvation pensions.