Gold: Past, Present, and Future
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I guess Morov's website was having some kind of meltdown this morning and just wouldn't load 😍
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Anthony Evans78 said:The dollar really did sell its soul just to stay relevant, didn't it?🤣
analogharbor44 said:That's all just hearsay. If that were actually happening, gold prices would have skyrocketed instantly. Just a few days ago, you mentioned silver jumped 5% in a single day because some big player was supposedly buying it up for their clients.
Anthony Evans78 said:It started bubbling up last decade, but this year? It’s about to blow wide open.
Have you heard the rumors about Indians buying oil from Iranians using gold?☕
Andrew Barrett4 said:it's probably no surprise ☕
the USA rating is just weirder
/or maybe it’s just what someone else pointed out earlier: the fact that the European Union is in much worse shape overall./
Bradley Hayes6 said:Moody's decided to slash the credit rating for Irish bonds down to junk status yesterday.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...reaking54.html
Who exactly are you calling "long-winded"?
I suppose anyone who finds a way to profit from someone else's tragedy or misery—regardless of what nationality they claim—is just fundamentally broken. It doesn't really matter where they're from, I guess.
I don't think Gotovina necessarily needs to be held accountable, unless he was actually responsible for creating the conditions that allowed those crimes to happen in the first place. I mean, looking at it through the lens of the chain of command, if he gave the orders or enabled the people who carried them out, then that's a different story. But without that direct link? I guess it's complicated.
Jerry Williams41 said:So, I was talking to that lady over at Chase, and she told me straight up that the fees are on the payer. $3.25Then again, you're still going to need an American tax ID if you're looking to set up a foreign entity.
I have a feeling we’ll be joining the EU long before we actually get that account opened.
Zachary Sanders said:$500 He holds them right now because they’re sitting in his account. However, that $1,500 now belongs to the creditor, who acted in good faith believing the funds were his actual property. In reality, he was just holding them.
It’s actually quite simple to prove that he just holds the assets without owning them. A single bank statement from JPMorgan Chase settles it. 😁
I just finished reviewing my new account agreement from JPMorgan Chase. There’s a clause in there that gives the bank the right to correct entries. It was buried in the fine print, but it’s definitely there.😁
I get where this guy is coming from; I wouldn't want to be in his shoes either. Generally speaking, bank contracts are written to favor the institution rather than the customer. Any legal battle he pursues would likely end up working against him. On the other hand, launching an action against both the bank and the employee could work in his favor, but that’s really just a question of how much time and money he wants to burn. Honestly, the easiest way out is to just sit down and reach a settlement with the bank and the representative.
If JPMorgan Chase tries to wash their hands of this while the teller keeps insisting on payment, I’m filing a lawsuit. A bank has every right to fix an entry if it doesn't hurt the client, but since this correction caused me actual problems, I believe it needs to be handled differently.
BringitbackI'm guessing you might be short on cash for a lawyer or legal counsel, so I’d suggest checking out this legal PDF or sticking to this forum. I can't access that specific link right now. If you have the text from the forum you want me to rewrite, just paste it here and I'll get to work on it. You'll definitely find the best answer right here.
Zachary Sanders said:They can't lose the case.😁 Basically, if someone holds property that doesn't belong to them, they have to return it. It isn't about who messed up; it's about who has the funds. Legally, the money has to be returned. Of course, Chase has protected itself here, leaving the staff and the recovery team to sort out the mess.
In short, if they won't return the money voluntarily, they don't have to. A court will force them, but I think the damages would just outweigh the recovery.
On the flip side, the individual could actually sue the employee for things like emotional distress caused by her mistake and the resulting financial hardship. These are two separate issues. He would win in that scenario too. However, in both instances, the legal costs far exceed the $1000, making any gain negligible. It’s best to settle this quietly.
Joseph Watson3 said:I’m even more of a piece of work.
Honestly, I’d love to just hand that money back to that arrogant teller—but instead, I think I’ll take a different route. I’m planning on sending a series of detailed formal complaints to her manager, his boss, the Bank of America internal audit team, the Federal Reserve, and whatever government agencies oversee banking regulations in this country. I’ll make sure to include a thorough breakdown of her behavior, the breach of contract, and every single regulation or federal law she managed to violate along the way. Why settle for a simple refund when you can document the incompetence?
With a little bit of luck, she’d probably wish that mistake had only cost her this much. $1000. 😁
Zachary Sanders said:Yeah, that’s how things should be handled to get this sorted out. So, $500 Return the funds to the account immediately, then settle the remaining balance as agreed with the representative.
No, by law, that money has to be returned. The only way this ends well is if the clerk covers the mistake out of her own pocket to avoid suing our hero. 😁
Chris Doyle4 said:To put it in layman's terms—in my estimation, they just want all the cash immediately because... well, looking at how things are playing out, it’s obvious they can't actually get anything from me. I feel like I'm being squeezed, and while I'm not saying I'm actively trying to dodge paying—which, let's be real, is still an option on the table—we'll just see how the situation evolves.
And why hasn't Chase notified me in writing like one of the guys on this forum suggested? Instead, they’re calling my house, acting all high and mighty, basically ordering me to get down to the branch ASAP. I mean, wtf? I have a life and responsibilities too.
Second thing—regarding that whole stolen card scenario you mentioned—just put yourself in those shoes. How would you even react if that happened to you?
Does any actual oversight exist at the bank to guarantee funds are pulled the same day? Or is there some kind of internal control system? Look, we're talking about people's money here. Whoever took this job should have known the gravity of the business they were entering and stayed focused. I'm not saying these mistakes are impossible—hey, we're only human—but seriously.
The way my wife was giving me these vague, half-baked updates that day—like, just a few hours before the deposit from the same bank actually hit the account—it makes me cringe just thinking about it.
She honestly acted like some total prima donna—and look, I'm usually a fan of divas, totally unrelated to the topic—but did I really have to show up dressed to the nines just so she'd treat me with basic decency? I'm a reliable payer and a loyal customer who always tries to keep his balances in check regardless of how much cash is in my pocket. What happened... it hit me hard. When I think back on it, the woman who was being so rude to me that day is the exact same person who messed up the transaction. (Again, this is just me assuming I'm not being played for a fool here)—"The bottom line is this: do I pay this woman back, or do I let the wheels fall off?"—that's the context.
If the employee in question isn't capable of doing her job conscientiously and professionally, then that's on her—not just in my case, but for anyone else who's bound to run into this after me. It baffles me that the bank doesn't have a system to pull funds instantly, instead relying on incompetent, ego-driven staff who clearly don't know what they're doing. (Shoutout to the rare exceptions, obviously).
Speaking of legal stuff, there was this one single garnishment—not one I caused, but I lost the lawsuit over, and the funds were covered by a settlement from the bank. 😁
I think I'll spend the next few days weighing my options and deciding what the "moral" move would be.
Even though I've got two paths, only one is the right one.
From what I gather, the bank can't sue me, and if what I heard is true, they can't touch the account because it's protected under privacy laws. So, it all comes down to me and that teller, and whatever decision I make.
Joseph Watson3 said:Do you actually grasp the fact that someone undergoing foreclosure still has legal rights? A third party can't just settle someone else's debt and then immediately demand repayment under duress. That's essentially debt buying and aggressive collection tactics—which, in many states, borders on criminal behavior.
God, if our banks are really this disconnected from reality... It honestly makes me want to close every single one of my American accounts and just walk away.
Lawrence Cruz said:I think it’s pretty obvious to everyone that he's dancing on the edge.
The guy is broke—it’s pretty obvious he's dancing on the edge here. An eviction or a bank levy isn't going to happen overnight, though. Honestly? My favorite kind of collections are those aggressive cell phone service garnishments. 🙄 That brings us to 1,500. 😲 Was he the one talking about that money—or was it someone else?
He’s been sitting on that debt for ages—way too long, honestly—but he hasn't lifted a finger to settle it. It's certainly a responsible way to handle things, if you consider that being honest. 😕
If that bank teller was really acting the way she’s being described—I honestly don't get why he didn't demand to speak with the branch manager right then and there. He could have easily signed off on recovering half the amount immediately (since the garnishment ate up the other half) and then just worked out a structured payment plan for the rest over a few months. Simple enough.
Lawrence Cruz said:But he is legally obligated to return funds he didn't actually earn. It hit his checking account.
Quoting again:
When assets from one person pass to another without a legal basis—like a contract, a court order, or specific statutory authority—the recipient is required to return them. If they can't be returned directly, they must compensate for the value received.