Nicole Gomez38 said:The currency will definitely lose value, sure, but people will be crushed by much higher debt loads. In a model without non-credit money issuance, the money supply grows way slower than the total debt—I actually broke this down during my segment on Capital Network. On top of that, the credit crisis is only going to get worse because the gap between total debt and the money supply widens every single day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMZsYfyPwzo
I don't know if you caught this part... in a debtor inflation model, once that short-term credit expansion ends, prices skyrocket while wages stay flat. That's your classic stagflation scenario.
One thing is certain: the mere passage of time works against people due to cumulative interest in a model lacking non-credit money issuance. It puts everyone in a worse spot, not a better one.
Also, who told you that wages and prices would just keep climbing indefinitely? Look around—real estate is worth less than it was five years ago, wages have stagnated, and mortgage payments are through the roof. Your theory only holds water if a credit crisis (an inability to service the debt) doesn't happen. But a credit crisis is an inevitable feature of any system where debt outpaces the money supply. Even those claiming the Euro will solve our problems are being misled; many countries that adopted the Euro are actually in the tightest spots right now.
The reality is that people who took out loans followed your exact logic—thinking it would get easier to pay them back over time—but life showed them the exact opposite. Thinking things will just "fix themselves" without changing the entire monetary system is pure fantasy.
Pure debtor inflation paired with rising tax rates is going to wreck both individuals and the economy. That's the biggest secret the financial elite is hiding.
Again, the issue is this "cumulative interest" trap. Picture a country with a million productive citizens. They all take a one-year loan from a $333 at 10% interest. After a year, they collectively owe $367. They have to pay back $1.1 billion. The Bank walks away with $100 million in profit. Consequently, everyone is $33 than when they started. To cover it, they take out a new loan, but this time it's $367. With $33, they try to offset the loss, leaving them with $333 in debt. But now, they owe $403. After two years, everyone is $70 than their starting point. Meanwhile, the Bank has pocketed an extra $110 million, totaling $210 million. As they keep taking larger and larger loans, the cycle repeats with even greater losses; you end up drowning in debt with zero cash left.
So, do you still honestly believe that paying off debt gets easier over time?
So, let’s be honest here—people were taking out loans based on completely flawed logic, which is just the reality of the situation. They were spending money they hadn't even earned yet—taking out massive loans for cars, houses, and all sorts of other luxuries—while barely giving a second thought to how they’d actually survive tomorrow or whether their jobs were even secure. Now that the dust is settling, I have to wonder: how much of this blame lies with the banks, and how much belongs to the people themselves?
Nicole Gomez38 said:The currency will definitely lose value, sure, but people will be crushed by much higher debt loads. In a model without non-credit money issuance, the money supply grows way slower than the total debt—I actually broke this down during my segment on Capital Network. On top of that, the credit crisis is only going to get worse because the gap between total debt and the money supply widens every single day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMZsYfyPwzo
I don't know if you caught this part... in a debtor inflation model, once that short-term credit expansion ends, prices skyrocket while wages stay flat. That's your classic stagflation scenario.
One thing is certain: the mere passage of time works against people due to cumulative interest in a model lacking non-credit money issuance. It puts everyone in a worse spot, not a better one.
Also, who told you that wages and prices would just keep climbing indefinitely? Look around—real estate is worth less than it was five years ago, wages have stagnated, and mortgage payments are through the roof. Your theory only holds water if a credit crisis (an inability to service the debt) doesn't happen. But a credit crisis is an inevitable feature of any system where debt outpaces the money supply. Even those claiming the Euro will solve our problems are being misled; many countries that adopted the Euro are actually in the tightest spots right now.
The reality is that people who took out loans followed your exact logic—thinking it would get easier to pay them back over time—but life showed them the exact opposite. Thinking things will just "fix themselves" without changing the entire monetary system is pure fantasy.
Pure debtor inflation paired with rising tax rates is going to wreck both individuals and the economy. That's the biggest secret the financial elite is hiding.
Again, the issue is this "cumulative interest" trap. Picture a country with a million productive citizens. They all take a one-year loan from a $333 at 10% interest. After a year, they collectively owe $367. They have to pay back $1.1 billion. The Bank walks away with $100 million in profit. Consequently, everyone is $33 than when they started. To cover it, they take out a new loan, but this time it's $367. With $33, they try to offset the loss, leaving them with $333 in debt. But now, they owe $403. After two years, everyone is $70 than their starting point. Meanwhile, the Bank has pocketed an extra $110 million, totaling $210 million. As they keep taking larger and larger loans, the cycle repeats with even greater losses; you end up drowning in debt with zero cash left.
So, do you still honestly believe that paying off debt gets easier over time?
Look, let’s be honest—the people who went out and signed those massive loan agreements already destroyed themselves years ago. They basically handed over their futures the moment they put pen to paper. And honestly? I don't think even a complete overhaul of the system is going to fix it at this point. It's likely too late for them.
I’m not entirely sure which economy you're actually referring to here—it's a bit unclear—but I guess that’s the problem, isn't it?
Nicole Gomez38 said:Declaring the currency clause unconstitutional is our only way out. However, the Supreme Court is essentially under the thumb of the ruling party, and both they and the opposition (Democratic Party) are firmly aligned with the banks. In other words, the entire system—the banks, the media, everyone—is controlled by both the Republican Party and the Democratic Party. The only real solution is for citizens to vote for candidates who actually oppose this currency clause. Right now, that would be the Reform Party and Donald Trump's labor supporters—though I worry those labor folks are just as tied to the status quo since they haven't mentioned changing the monetary model. Without fixing the underlying monetary model, getting rid of the currency clause is impossible.
I break down the whole situation in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zplkkuwQpcQ
Look, let’s be real—you can't exactly declare the Fed's policies illegal without running into massive legal hurdles. If they did, what then? Would they just ban all new loans tied to the Swiss Franc and force everything back into Dollars? I mean, honestly... changing the laws right now makes zero sense—not even a bird sitting on a branch would touch a loan in Swiss Francs at this point. Besides, you actually said it yourself: banks aren't even handing out Swiss Franc loans anymore. The whole thing isn't about legality, though—it's about politics. This is about finding a political fix for the people who are already drowning and struggling to make their payments.
Giving people some false sense of hope by throwing around those old-school, proletarian revolutionary slogans—honestly, I don't think that's the right place or even the right time. You’re about 60 or 70 years behind the curve here. Back then, you couldn't just Google the facts to see through the nonsense, so maybe you could get away with that kind of math... but today? It doesn't add up.