Richard Perez3 said:Nah, actually, it's the exact opposite. That’s the only thing that actually pays off in the long run. Take the Benigan's example.
Back when I used to wait tables, the absolute worst part wasn't even the bad tips or the crazy customers—it was those people who’d just stand there at the bar and absolutely wreck the ashtrays. They'd leave ash everywhere, all over the counter, just because they had one right in front of them, one on the left, and one on the right. Just total lack of respect for the space. Truly unbelievable. I'm done. I am officially through with working shifts at bars. Never again. I’ve done my time, and honestly? I'm over it. I mean, whatever. They're already over there anyway, and they'll have to clean up the mess regardless. I honestly hadn't even given it a second thought. But that's when I really lost it.
Same goes for everything else. Knowing how things work in our local city councils, I’ve realized that people don't just refuse to clean up their own messes—they won't even let anyone else touch them. Honestly, they should just let them spend one day a week cleaning up all the crap. Their own mess and everyone else's too, while they're down there under the sea. You aren't gonna do a damn thing until you feel the burn yourself. It's easy to talk big when it's not your neck on the line, right? You don't care because it doesn't hurt you. Until it hits home, you're just blowing smoke. It’s yours. It smells like you, and honestly? It doesn't bother me one bit. It took me a long time to finally get it—that you actually have to clean up after yourself. Like, it’s not just some chore someone else does; it’s something you gotta feel like is your own responsibility. It’s gotta be a necessity, you know? Not something you drag your feet on, but just part of being an adult. I honestly think this is a way better way to learn than just leaving it sitting there like it’s some thing they can just... I don't even know, ignore? It's just common sense. Whatever. Look, let's talk about adoption. It’s a heavy topic, but we need to get into it. People always have an opinion on how families should be built, but honestly? It’s complicated. There’s no one-size-fits-all manual for this kind of stuff.
See, that's exactly why this whole setup works for everyone involved—no exceptions. There aren't any innocent bystanders or clueless idiots left hanging around to mess things up.
So wait, we're going to reward the people who already clean up their own mess by making them clean up everyone else's too? Your cafe story isn't really a fair comparison since you took that job and were getting paid for it—you had every right to just say, "Screw you guys, clean your own ash," and walk out the door.
And let's be real, a system where there aren't people taking advantage of others or acting like fools just doesn't exist. All it takes is one person playing favorites and one person being the favorite, and all those big ideas about a "perfect system" go straight out the window.
So, let me get this straight: if my kid cleans up someone else's mess, is the kid who actually made the mess suddenly going to have some epiphany and realize that wasn't okay?
And honestly, I never agreed with making the innocent party clean up after others—not even back when I was in school. All that taught me was that the people caught in the crossfire usually get screwed over, while the ones constantly causing trouble are experts at acting sweet and innocent just to trick everyone else into being their errand runners.
Richard Perez3 said:If I can jump in here for a sec. Honestly, I think the best thing we could actually do for our kids and their future is teach them how to clean up their own crap. And they gotta be the ones doing it. If people want to reduce the amount of cleaning needed, they should probably just start by reducing the amount of—well, crap. Both figuratively and literally. Dead serious.
When some random group of people handles all your messes, you never actually learn what you're doing. Instead, you've got a whole bunch of parents cleaning up after their kids forever, and then we act shocked when young adults turn out the way they do. The Japanese have a solid concept down. Even if it comes with a lot of pressure. I’d much rather aim for excellence than just washing my hands of responsibility and duty.
Not sure if I’m making sense, but everything I said applies both ways—literally and metaphorically.
Basically, you're just expanding on my point: there's zero use in teaching someone they're obligated to clean up someone else's garbage; everyone needs to learn how to sweep up their own. 🤷
shadowhawk31 said:It’s not some stupid take. You literally wrote about this yourself.
So, what exactly are you using as your benchmark for how much public opinion on tablets has shifted among Americans?
Do you actually have anything more substantial to point to than Sprajcov’s Facebook page as a relevant metric?
By the way, I'm a woman. My handle and my avatar pretty much give that away. Since basic logic seems to be a struggle for you, I’m just gonna call it quits here. Honestly, I don't think it's possible to have a real conversation with someone who thinks a single Facebook page is a perfect representation of how the whole country feels.
Not to mention the lack of literacy, the bluntness, and just general saltiness... But hey, feel free to keep rambling about how some obscure tool is going to be the magic fix for the nation's prosperity.
There are at least a dozen people hanging around there every single day, obsessing over school stuff.
And honestly, hundreds of people are just wasting their lives scrolling through tablets.
I even saw an article about some guy's social media update after he moved to Sweden.
In his post, he was claiming that in Sweden, the government buys every kid a tablet and they’ve got taxi drivers chauffeuring everyone to and from class.
Man, if you could see the absolute meltdown people had in the comments over that.
Wait—so what, you're actually advocating for everything to be digital from now on? Like, no more notebooks, ever?
What happens to handwriting? What about developing actual fine motor skills and all that?
Where on earth did you get that idea? Honestly, though, thanks for providing such a perfect example of why we need to double down on teaching kids actual literacy and reading comprehension. ☕
As for Sprajc, I really can't wrap my head around using blog comments (thousands? millions? 🤦 ) as some kind of benchmark for anything.
Where on earth are you getting this nonsense about tablets from? I mean, honestly, what’s the actual issue here? If they help improve how kids learn and stop them from lugging around massive stacks of paperwork every single day, I don't see the problem.
Back at my kid's school, we actually had a vote on what should be bought for the district. We were choosing between individual lockers for every student, new tables for the cafeteria, or those tablets everyone is talking about. Tablets actually got the fewest votes, but somehow, despite that, the administration decided to go with the tablets anyway. So, if the community didn't even ask for it, whose decision was it really?
shadowhawk31 said:Look, school isn't just about textbooks; it's an institution meant to help shape character, too.
The school system has a responsibility to help raise these kids, regardless of whether the parents are stepping up at home or completely dropping the ball on basic life lessons.
A school's job is to teach reading, writing, and math. It shouldn't matter if the parents have already covered those basics at home or not.
And quite frankly, the school board shouldn't have the authority to force students into cleaning up after other people—period.
Is society actually going to get any better if we prioritize teaching kids that it's okay to clean up after others for free, instead of actually educating them in civics, culture, or their actual school subjects?
Honestly, you have to wonder about parents who can't even teach their own kids how to scrub a toilet. I really think schools should focus on teaching actual subjects, not basic life skills like that. And no, there is absolutely no way I’d let my kid be cleaning up after anyone else. Every time I hear stories about how some kids act in class, I just want to tell their parents they should be the ones doing the scrubbing for their little angels instead.
I'm not quite sure what you mean by "eL2." Could you clarify that for me? I want to make sure I'm following along correctly before I respond. [Username] says: I’ve been sitting here thinking about this lately, and honestly, it feels like we need to have a serious conversation about how we view the universe. It’s easy to get caught up in our own little bubbles—our jobs, our errands, our daily stresses—but when you step back, there's this overwhelming sense that we might be looking at everything through a very narrow lens. There’s this idea floating around that people tend to view the cosmos as if it were built specifically for us. We look at the stars and see patterns, or we look at the vastness of space and try to find ourselves in it. It’s almost as if we assume God the egoist designed the entire mechanics of existence just to serve as a backdrop for the human drama. It’s a bit much, isn't it? To think that all this complexity—the physics, the expanding galaxies, the sheer scale of it—is somehow centered on our tiny corner of the map. I know I’m probably being a bit too deep for a random thought, and I can already hear myself sounding like a philosopher in a coffee shop, but I truly believe we need more humility. Science keeps showing us how small we actually are. Every time we peel back a layer of understanding, the universe gets bigger and we get smaller. Instead of acting like the protagonists of a cosmic epic, maybe we should just accept that we’re observers in a much larger, much more indifferent system. It’s not about being cynical; it’s about being realistic. There’s a certain kind of peace in realizing that the world doesn't revolve around us. It takes the pressure off, in a way. We don't have to carry the weight of the universe on our shoulders because, frankly, we aren't even close to holding it.
I think some people turn to atheism simply because they enjoy the feeling of being their own moral compass. There’s a certain ego in wanting to play God—deciding for yourself what counts as right and wrong without having to answer to any higher authority. Anyone who thinks their own ego is the center of the universe is just God the egoist..
Let’s be honest: egoists can be pretty unpleasant to deal with. We’ve all been there, stuck in a room with someone who thinks they're the center of the universe. To me, it almost feels like egoists are naturally atheists. It just makes sense—their worldview is so narrow that there simply isn't any room in it for anyone greater, smarter, more beautiful, or even more deserving of respect than themselves.It’s actually a Quote taken straight from a religious studies textbook, and it's been blowing up on social media lately, sparking a ton of heated debates.
Is God the egoist? I’ve been sitting here thinking about it lately. When you look at the scale of everything, there isn't anyone above Him. He stands entirely alone—the singular, greatest, most beautiful, and smartest being in existence. It makes you wonder if that level of absolute supremacy carries a certain kind of divine selfishness.
Who does God believe in?
Is God an atheist?
So, let's talk about religious education in our public elementary schools.
I grew up learning that God created humans in His own image, but also that we’re inherently sinful by nature. Luckily, those lessons happened in Sunday school rather than in my actual classroom—I would have hated having to worry about my GPA over theology. 😬
This excerpt really highlights how much damage the Church can do to families and the community at large. When you have kids being forced to learn and repeat these doctrines at home or among their friends, it’s no surprise that most of them end up becoming atheists.
We all know how kids act. The first chance they get, they’ll look their dad or mom right in the eye and tell them they're just some unpleasant, selfish jerk—simply because that’s what their religious studies textbook told them. Then the physical stuff starts, someone gets slapped, they start calling the Blue Phone, and before you know it, the authorities and various agencies are getting involved. 🤦
I might be overreacting here, but I see this kind of propaganda as a massive threat to how we relate to one another. Categorizing people based on whether they belong to a specific faith or not is just beneath any civilized society.
I really hope those atheists who are planning to enroll their kids in religious education just so they don't have to sit out in the hallway take a moment to actually think about what they're doing.
Keith Miller30 said:Actually, I think it should just be treated like any other subject and scheduled for first, second, or third period. But honestly, it doesn't really matter; I have no desire to get into a heated debate over this, especially since nobody seems to care what anyone thinks—religious studies will remain part of the school curriculum regardless.
I was simply noting that what was mentioned above strikes me as somewhat psychologically unsound, and I say that with complete sincerity and absolutely no intention of being offensive.
Doesn't it seem a little unhinged, though? Or at least totally messed up? Like, teaching kids that women were made from a man's rib? Don't even get me started on the rest of that stuff...
Larry Walker24 said:Parents at John F. Kennedy High School in Chicago just got their paperwork to pick electives for the upcoming school year. Specifically, this is hitting parents of seventh graders.
One parent from the Central Park area took to Facebook to vent about the notice they received, saying: "So this is how the religious reform actually works in our local schools. Computer science or Spanish? Who cares; you can drop those in a heartbeat—no signature required. But Religion? Yeah, that's a whole different ballgame..." To opt out of religion classes, both parents have to sign a formal waiver, whereas for electives like computer science or Spanish, you just leave the box unchecked. It's hard to say why tech and languages suddenly seem less important than religion in this setup.
It leaves you wondering—what happens if a kid doesn't want to take religion, but only has one parent's support? Or what if they're in a single-parent household?
Ever heard that old saying about "signing a contract with the devil"? It basically means there's no way out once you're in. I think it comes from Catholic traditions... 😀
James Hall68 said:Well... obviously, we aren't teaching children to be malicious or corrupt. Any potential illusions are usually boiled away the moment they develop a sense of critical thinking.
Nah, it's more like they just want to feel superior to "everyone else"—you know, the folks going to hell because they don't follow the right faith, love the wrong gender, or worship a different God...
James Hall68 said:Is it really appropriate to compare religious studies and its curriculum to the psychological adventures experienced by the heroine in a novel by Margaret Atwood? 😁
Of course not. I mean, Erica doesn't even write fiction. A much better comparison would be R. R. Martin. 😀
Writing a book report for school takes way more than just a quick summary where some third party decides what actually matters from the story. Plus, I really don't think it’s a great idea to tell kids, "Hey, here's a shortcut, just wing it because anything is better than nothing."
In my class, only 6 out of 28 kids actually showed up. We definitely took a massive hit at the end there, though maybe things are looking a bit better in places like NYC or Chicago.
If the government really feels like they have to slap a tax on something, they could always just balance things out with tax credits or some other kind of incentive program. It’s not rocket science.
It honestly feels like we’re absolute pros at finding loopholes whenever there’s a way to squeeze some extra cash out of something shady. But the second someone mentions "charity" or "helping people," suddenly everyone is an expert at finding a million excuses to bypass the rules.
Tyler Ruiz502 said:Look, you have to realize that in just a year or two, this kid is going to have a smartphone, a computer, and basically the entire internet at their fingertips. They’re going to be forced to learn how to think critically—there's no avoiding it. As for religion? Even in all its twisted forms, traditions, and interpretations, it's really just a drop in the ocean compared to the sheer amount of nonsense out there... The battle between blind belief and actual logic is much more prevalent than most people care to admit. It's like a Placebo effect in a storybook.
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My kids watch pretty much whatever is on TV. But I can tell you right now, none of those cartoons or shows they love are trying to teach them that thinking differently means they'll end up in hell or facing eternal torment.
So, I heard this crazy story a few days ago about a teacher at my school. He’s a pretty young guy, graduated just a couple of years back, but he has this weird habit of grilling students with super personal questions. Like, seriously invasive stuff. For example, there’s this one girl who lost her dad in a car accident, and he actually asked her how she was feeling now that he’s gone—basically digging into her grief right there in class. And it doesn't stop there. He goes after kids from divorced families too, asking them how they feel about the split or what they think about their parents' new partners. All of this happens during a regular lesson, right in front of everyone else. If a student tries to shut him down and refuses to answer? Well, he makes sure they know they messed up. They end up getting sidelined, like being forced to sit by themselves in a desk or something.
The parents are totally aware of what's going on. But honestly? They don't say a word because they don't want to cause trouble. It’s like that survival instinct—staying part of the pack matters more to them than anything else. The kids will figure it out eventually. 😜
rowdypanther12 said:Not even you, if she decides one day to become a Wiccan, a Buddhist, or a Catholic.😁
Totally! I’m always down for a solid, well-reasoned debate—as long as nobody starts throwing insults or flying objects at each other. Honestly, this little kid already has quite the vocabulary. 😛To those of us being called names:
And since you brought up Wicca—I actually think they're pretty cool. I don't have anything against Buddhists either.