Posts by stormybadger8

Michael Lee4 said:Still enjoying hitting the same wall over and over? 🤦

Well, why not? 🤷

We've been hitting the same wall since this forum even existed. 🤣

Jason Campbell70 said:I know whining isn't exactly a crowd-pleaser, but I don't think anyone can really argue with this one:

"Those who don't respect the rules are others, while I am the ninth."

Because that's exactly how it played out.

And I wouldn't exactly agree.

Hamilton passed the SC—though honestly, was that before or after he hit the track? Not sure. But Alonso definitely, 100%, passed the SC on track once it was out there.

So, by that logic, Alonso is the one breaking the rules.😳

How? Why? Does it even matter?

There have been races where it’s literally like this:
Driver A crashes, limps onto the grass in a totaled car, and tries to make it to the pits.
A few drivers blast past him under yellow flags and dodge a penalty.😳

It's completely nonsensical. The guy driving a wreck through the grass is the problem anyway—he’s got zero chance of finishing, and there's debris everywhere. Plus, the SC has to be on track.

Same deal here. Hamilton is "guilty" because he slowed down and then eventually passed the SC.
But Alonso is also guilty because he passed the SC. And does it matter if he did it at low speed or high speed? What was his lap time? Does any of that actually count?
Not to me, because he passed the SC on the track.

Sorry, but in my book, Alonso is undeniably in the wrong. As for Hamilton, I'm not even 100% sure myself—I honestly don't know what the rulebook says about passing when the SC enters the track in a situation like this.🤷

Alonso and Massa are overtaking the silver Mercedes on track. Check out the footage at 0.24-0.42 😳

Anyway, I just watched the whole clip and reached a conclusion: they need at least a 25-second penalty 🤣

I’m calling for a 25-second penalty for Massa and a disqualification for Alonso because I've never seen anyone overtake the medical car under yellow flags before 🤣 🤣 😂

You can clearly see both of them overtaking the other silver Mercedes 😳

Sure, the first guy doesn't pass, but the second one is right behind him, which makes them both guilty 😬

Maria Nelson2 said:Oh, absolutely... Charlie Whiting and the gang wouldn't have even noticed if Mark Webber had smashed into a wall unless a piece of the chassis flew right through their window 🙄 😁 , honestly, it's like Alonso has been acting as their talent agent since 2007, though we only found out during the last race.😂

Of course they'd notice. The real question is whether they'd hand out a penalty right then or wait until the end of the race like they did for everyone else. ☕

Why hasn't their entire squad of 7 or 8 drivers been penalized mid-race? They get hit after the race, but the actual infraction happened at the exact same time as Hamilton's 😉

It probably would've been the same story with Hamilton if Alonso wasn't such a 🙂

hollowgull5 said:Hold on a second...
I mean, how on earth did he not pull that off... seriously...
So, Hamilton got penalized, right? But honestly, he ended up back exactly where he started in the standings anyway... so what's even the point? It’s like the refs or whoever else was involved didn't actually change a damn thing...

Nope, he didn't get lucky there.🤣
If he and the crew had just kept their mouths shut, Hamilton probably would have finished maybe 2 or 3 seconds behind Vettel. But after the race, the whole team would've been slapped with at least a 25-second penalty—you can't go lower than that, obviously. That puts him in 5th or 6th, if they don't just strip him of all his points entirely. Boom. Case closed.
Hamilton's totally in the red here, while Alonso is grinning like a kid on Christmas.
All this did was do him a favor,
because the penalty is set in stone now. There's no point whining about it anymore.🤣

Jonathan Booth5 said:1. Let's talk about the points then. F. Alonso: USA, bad start, everything goes wrong (everyone's fault); China, jump start, mental lapse; Monaco—3rd FP, let's put it in words, third free practice, hit the barrier, wrecked the car. Mapet could have been leading if not for his own mental lapses.

2. Why was Teflon only penalized with a DT in China six laps later, while the whole world watched thanks to that same Charlie as the guy zoomed past the Red Bulls? Look, there are specific procedures for deciding penalties, but Hamilton's infraction only became a priority for race control after Teflon's outburst and once they were absolutely certain a violation occurred (Charlie had to request the GPS data for car number 2, the SC, and the medical car, then checked the delta times, and to be certain, even requested footage from the FIA's helicopter, all of which had to be handed over to the stewards).

3. I didn't realize that battling for position and clipping wheels in the first corner was considered "dirty." Hamilton was in a position to attack Vettel, miscalculated, and broke his wing. Is that not enough of a penalty? And since we're discussing dirty play, at least he didn't wreck Vettel's car, which is a far cry from Teflon's mess in Australia, where his stunt nearly took out half of Michael Schumacher's car.

4. Teflon is quite simply a Ferrari failure. After nine races, this guy has made more mistakes and messes than Massa did in his entire career. Naturally, the spoiled brat starts blaming everyone except himself—it's in his nature (as it is with most prima donnas)—because at the end of the year, he has to justify a thirty-plus million dollar salary for a double world champion.

5. I never thought I'd admit this, but I truly feel bad that Michael Schumacher's engine blew in Suzuki 2006. Compared to this absolute clown, he's a real man and a friend, and I know exactly what kind of person Schumacher actually is.

Signed, fully agreeing including point 3.👍

The only thing that bugs me is Hamilton whining "Vettel hit me."🙄
Just as much of a crybaby as Alonso. I wonder if he wants McLaren to file a complaint against Charlie too.🤣

redheron12 said:Fine, if we're going to be pedantic, wasn't everyone screwed because the SC missed Vettel? If we're looking at the full scope of things, it should be obvious to everyone that the primary blame lies with the organizers and the FIA.

And honestly, the most frustrating part of this whole saga is how Alonso is fixating on settling scores with Hamilton—all that whining regarding Hamilton's penalty. If Alonso actually cared about justice as much as he pretends to, his first target would be the FIA and their botched deployment of the SC, rather than taking aim at Hamilton.

this is facts 🙏 damn, seriously though, Christian Horner and Vettel obviously botched the tactics again, probably due to all the drama surrounding Mark Webber, but Vettel went into the pits way too late. Everyone else had already pitted. For some stupid reason, the same thing happened to Hamilton, Fernando Alonso, and Felipe Massa. It was like the rest of the field was running a completely different race. I honestly thought Vettel and Hamilton were like 20 spots back by the time they exited the pits.🤣

When I saw Alonso after that, I couldn't believe it. I'm sitting here thinking, who even is this 35 guy?😂

Honestly, I don't even know what to say, but the TV director is just a total idiot. It's like they intentionally left out the most important and interesting details of the entire race from our view. And somehow, we actually missed them. Did the guy filming just decide everything except the actual crucial parts was worth watching?👎

I don't even get how Vettel ended up in first place.😕
Did the SC overtake him on track, or did Vettel just blast past everyone else? I have no clue. Is it even normal procedure for the SC to overtake drivers on the track?😕

They should hit the SC with a DT penalty at the next race.🤣
SC in the pits, everyone in the pits.😂

Call Charlie.🙂

wiredtiger8 said:Give me a break!
What are you doing awake this early in the morning? Are you hanging out at the beach or something?
If I have to, I'll grab a crate of Heineken and a few pounds of meat for the grill and head over there just to shut you up! 👍

P.S.
Sadly, I won't be heading out to Philip Jacob for another two weeks...

I might just go out and catch a shark myself today😁
it'll be one hell of a BBQ🙏

And as for beer, if we're doing this, bring some Becks instead of that Sprite-style soda water they call beer.🤣

redheron12 said:If they had actually penalized Lewis—meaning he would have finished behind Alonso—there is no way things would have stayed this way until the end. It feels like the officials basically bailed Alonso out of yet another embarrassment. I mean, he spent more than half the race driving like a retiree right behind Sebastien Buemi, barely even attempting a move.

In this instance, justice was fully served; the superior drivers in the faster cars ended up in the better positions.

this is hands down the most objective post on this entire F1 forum ever 🙏 🙏🙏

mistybear87 needs to start a "Legendary Forum Posts" thread immediately

this one definitely earns a special spot 😬 🤣

EDIT: and just so we're clear, I actually respect a McLaren driver publicly admitting that Vettel is a better driver than both of their guys 😍

Amanda Kelly said:Man, thank God this turned into a complete disaster instead of something worse.
Before I give up on the Miami Grand Prix, just tell me one thing:
When some idiot in front of you flies through a red light into a massive intersection (preferably at 2 AM), do you floor it to follow them, or do you hit the brakes?

Whenever I see someone driving like a maniac, I just go grab a beer or a coffee—maybe even an ice cream depending on the vibe. Basically, I’m more like Kimi than anything else. 🤣
I wouldn't have a clue what to do if I were acting like Fernando Alonso. 😁

Look, I'm not saying it's okay. Obviously, it isn't. And let's be real, Formula 1 isn't exactly a "fair" sport. Every penalty feels misplaced and never quite hits the mark; that's nothing new.😳

The joke now is just watching big-shot Fernando Alonso complain about it. Look at a few examples:

Current football:
The Americans don't recognize a perfectly good goal— 🙄Sepp Blatter apologizes 🙂 and everyone starts arguing about camera angles and who knows what. Where were all these geniuses when someone else got screwed over? When a "small" team takes the hit? Is this really the first oversight in history that forces Blatter to apologize? How many times has he had to say sorry to piles of wronged teams before?🙄

Formula 1:
Someone intentionally holds back another driver who's lapping the field—the penalty is a joke, the victim gets totally shafted, and the offender goes from 23rd to 24th instead of being punished properly.🙄

Someone makes a crazy move and knocks a driver out of the race—the penalty? Well, forget about those points. They might have had a career-defining drive in some random race that could've landed them a seat at a top-tier team, but instead, they get a measly five-place grid penalty.🙄

Someone overtakes the Stake F1 Team or leaves the pits under red lights, gaining an advantage, and instead of getting penalized, they actually profit by two or three spots—while everyone else just sits there losing time.

What kind of penalty is actually fair? What actually compensates the people who lost out because of someone else's dirty tactics? In Formula 1, almost none.☕
P.S. There have been a few, but they're incredibly rare and usually involve post-race penalties or stripping titles/points. Even then, those situations are so rare, and even if they happen, it's almost never the case that the victim actually ends up better off after the penalty is applied.

Amanda Kelly can say whatever she wants about Alonso, but he’s the one who screwed himself here.😉
What stopped him from just staying with Hamilton and overtaking the Stake F1 Team? Just watch the replay. He almost got rear-ended by Felipe Massa. He braked because he was probably thinking, "I'll just complain now, Hamilton will take the hit, I'm in a Ferrari, and Ferrari pulls the strings." Well, it didn't work. Can't blame anyone but him.☕

It's not like this hasn't happened before; Hamilton isn't the first or the last guy to pull something like this. But the thing is, Alonso and Massa were right there—literally three meters away—and it's a massive waste that they didn't capitalize. It was the perfect Ferrari strategy:
Alonso overtakes the Stake F1 Team and stays out until the very end of the race.
Massa stays behind the Stake F1 Team and pits.

They could have both won, or at least one of them. Instead, they both walked away empty-handed.

I agree, Hamilton is a complete jerk. Between blaming Sebastian Vettel and whining about how "Vettel hit me,"🙂"🙄", it's exhausting. But the whole situation with the Stake F1 Team is just basic situational awareness. It's not like we're waiting for the FIA's decision; these calls happen all the time even after the race (just look at the rest of the teams). His move actually makes sense, plus he has a decent excuse since Vettel was ahead of the Stake F1 Team.

If Alonso hadn't messed up, Hamilton would have been properly screwed.😉
Hamilton honestly owes him a thank-you note for being such a coward. If Alonso hadn't flinched, the decision wouldn't have been handed down until after the race.🤣
That penalty would have been 25 seconds. I have no clue where Hamilton would have landed in that chaos, but he definitely wouldn't have been second. At best, maybe fifth or sixth.🤣 Besides, who's to say he wouldn't have collided with Vettel again or ended up crashing out with him? Sometimes keeping your mouth shut is the smarter play.😉

They might have even stripped him of his win after the race; God knows what kind of penalty he would've faced, but one thing is certain: he would've gotten punished.
It's not even impossible that he would've finished behind Alonso with zero points if Alonso had just stayed quiet.🤣

Sure, what happened at the end wasn't fair or honest. But then again, it wasn't "fair" when Alonso was at Ferrari while Kimi wasn't even in Formula 1. It wasn't "fair" when Jenson Button won the title with that semi-legal Brawn GP outfit. It wasn't "fair" when Michael Schumacher snatched several titles in a massively privileged Ferrari. It wasn't "fair" that Alonso even got back into Formula 1 after that mess at McLaren and the Nelson Piquet wall incident. Nothing is ever truly fair. That's just life. You can't expect everyone to follow the rules and play nice while others get away with being total bastards.

hollowgull5 said:Hamilton really gave him a taste of his own medicine with that one

"I actually saw a Stake F1 Team car fly past him on the screens trackside," Hamilton taunts. "It’s not exactly common for some Stake F1 Team car to be overtaking him, so he must have been totally checked out in his own little world the whole time. But honestly, I still can't wrap my head around why that messed with his race so much."

Look, it's obvious Alonso has some beef with Hamilton, and it's clearly eating him alive. I get the feeling he doesn't care about Ferrari, the championship, or even winning races anymore. It's all secondary. His only goal seems to be being better than Hamilton and beating him, even if they both end up finishing 7th and 8th in the standings.

A bruised ego is a nasty thing.

Ever since that wild season at McLaren, he just seems lost to me. He's making mistakes that are totally unlike him—weird lapses, zero focus, and sometimes it feels like he's just lost his drive entirely.🤷

In my mind, Alonso was the kind of guy who could hold anyone off, regardless of what he was driving. Now? People are passing him on track and catching him while he sleeps.😕

Something is seriously wrong here.🤷

Amanda Kelly said:I have to disagree with you there regarding Ferrari's season. Not even a little bit.
What exactly did he mess up at the Miami Grand Prix?
God knows what everyone else is saying behind closed doors, but we never hear it. We just don't know. Of course, with a personality like Alonso's, he’s always going to be the center of the storm. Every single word gets magnified, and half the time, it's twisted just to suit the narrative.

Everyone is focusing on the wrong thing here, nitpicking about Lewis. If the SC had come out five or six seconds earlier—which I’m certain they could have and should have done—right in front of Vettel, this entire debate wouldn't even exist.

I'm not sure if you're talking about the results or something else entirely.
Alonso managed to claw his way back into the points twice after starting dead last, even though the car was pretty mediocre. Honestly, I can't find much to complain about—more respect than criticism from me.

Must be nice. 👍

He was crying, and honestly, it made zero sense. I mean, look at how he phrased that sentence... "you" You don't have to do anything else. Just keep the pressure on Charlie.
So that’s the whole game right there. Winning isn't actually the point. Getting a better finishing position? Forget it. The real goal is just screwing over your own teammate. 👎
It’s not even worth debating whether Hamilton is at fault here. But honestly, it’s like Alonso is the only one actually seeing what's happening, and he isn't exactly some saint who needs to hold everyone's hand and explain every single move. We aren't blind, and we aren't stupid.

Regarding the SC, I’m with you 100%. Total idiocy. They should have pulled it out in front of Vettel and everything would've been fine. Massive oversight and a huge screw-up by the organizers.

Amanda Kelly said:I have to disagree with you there regarding Ferrari's season. Not even a little bit.
What exactly did he mess up at the Miami Grand Prix?
God knows what everyone else is saying behind closed doors, but we never hear it. We just don't know. Of course, with a personality like Alonso's, he’s always going to be the center of the storm. Every single word gets magnified, and half the time, it's twisted just to suit the narrative.

Everyone is focusing on the wrong thing here, nitpicking about Lewis. If the SC had come out five or six seconds earlier—which I’m certain they could have and should have done—right in front of Vettel, this entire debate wouldn't even exist.

I'm not sure if you're talking about the results or something else entirely.
Alonso managed to claw his way back into the points twice after starting dead last, even though the car was pretty mediocre. Honestly, I can't find much to complain about—more respect than criticism from me.

Must be nice. 👍

Who’s actually to blame for those back-of-the-pack starts? Besides the fact that Ferrari looked like the clear class of the field in Monaco—you could see it from the very first practice sessions, and it definitely showed during the race itself.

When your team hands you one of the fastest cars on the grid, but then everything falls apart due to a total tactical meltdown or just pure driver error—man, that’s rough. It’s painful to watch, and even harder to admit to yourself. I feel your pain. 🙈 I know that damn well. 😳

redheron12 said:I think you might be losing your mind just a little bit here.

I wasn't talking about any women when it comes to you—that privilege is reserved solely for Pato.

Though, if you wanted to show up with a bottle of Chablis, I might listen.🤷

Fine then, just say the word. I always know where the vibe is, no questions asked.🤣

Make a suggestion.🙂

Christian Williams61 said:it wouldn't even be that shocking—honestly, 😂 🙂 TBFov is basically gonna become our little mascot 😁 if he just lets that hair grow out a bit more 🤣

Why are you guys so obsessed with my chest? 🤣

who's your favorite kid 🤣 🤣 🤣

cosmicridge5 said:Wait, Rain, where did you get such a terrible rating?! 🤣

Almost as bad as Zalonsov. 🤣

It’s got nothing to do with ratings, at least not for me. But screw it, I have zero intention of walking in on anyone unless they actually deserve it. I'm a loyal loser. 😉

Besides, two guys naked isn't exactly a sight I'm looking for—let alone being stuck in the middle of it. 🙄

Even Pato wouldn't be on your radar in that scenario. 😉

redheron12 said:Were you gambling too? 😁

Even if you were a total knockout, it wouldn't happen. With this? Not a chance. 🙂

redheron12 said:You've got to be kidding me—to me, it’s just tragic that someone actually feels the need to suggest a team principal should go complaining to Charlie

Real team leaders complain even when they don't have a leg to stand on, let alone having a driver suggest it to them 🤷

Besides, you don't really have a clue about this anyway—especially since your guys are even more clumsy than these 😁

My guys are so clueless it’s actually adorable and honestly pretty funny to watch. 😁

But I love it. I hate those calculated teams that are constantly whining and tattling on everyone else—basically, Crybaby teams. 😳

But you know what the best part is? What chance do those amateurs have of taking both titles away from these ultra-cool whiners and losers? 😳

Jonathan Booth5 said:You don't really know what I'm talking about, do you? 😍
Anyway, how many fresh engines do you guys actually have left for the rest of the season? 🙏

You clearly don't know what I'm on about. 🤣

You've managed four wins in 19 races and that's basically your peak. 😉

Meanwhile, Red Bull has all the engine power they need. 🙂

Screw Ferrari. My thread about Ferrari falling apart is still totally relevant. 😬

I'd never root for Ferrari. ☕

redheron12 said:The level of chaos within Ferrari was truly evident—nothing captured it better than that moment where Alonso said, "push Charlie."

Can you even imagine a driver telling someone like Ron Dennis, Briatore, or Todt over the radio to "push Charlie"? 🤣🤣

Look, it's obvious Alonso has some tricks up his sleeve—maybe he's got some candid shots of Charlie, Bernie, and Max in action. 🤣

What do you think? How does he always manage to wiggle his way out of every single mess? 😉

That's the code. Send it to Charlie MMS. 🤣