Posts by stormybadger8

Amanda Kelly said:One race is way too little to claim who has the best engine or anything else.
Looking at today's race, the red cars held their own for a while. Then everything went downhill once Massin made those tire changes.

BTW, the way these tires were picked—specifically their characteristics—just gives more reason to focus on tactics. It’s going to matter more who pits when rather than who has the better driver or car. It's stupid.

I don't know about that. Massa could barely keep up with Sebastian Vettel, and KERS didn't even help much at the start—it was more like a desperate launch from Rubens. Plus, Robert Kubica definitely had the pace, so things aren't looking great for Ferrari. On top of that, Massa was the first one in the pits despite qualifying 7th.☕

Morgan Murphy7 said:As for Renault, they seem fast only when compared to Force India, though if 😁

The only small comfort is that the gaps aren't massive yet, and I suspect we'll hear the same old arguments about how the season is "just getting started" once things start moving along, much like what we saw last year.

doesn't have to be😉 clearly the best engines are Toyota and Mercedes. Now, the question is whether it's really Aerodynamics or the new Renault engine that makes Red Bull so dominant 🤷 because if Renault were truly that bad, then STR would actually be better than Red Bull, wouldn't they?🤷

Amanda Kelly said:The scenarios you're describing? Pure science fiction this season. Just forget about it.

And Ferrari? 😱 Give them a break.

Look🤷 ,the truth is Toyota didn't get penalized. If they had started from their earned qualifying spots, they would've cruised to a 1-2 finish for sure. Red Bull Racing would've been 3rd or 4th, Sebastian Vettel 5th if he hadn't crashed, Robert Kubica 6th, Nico Rosberg 7th, and both Nick Heidfeld and Mark Webber were caught up in that opening lap wreck, so just do the math.☕

Morgan Murphy7 said:mistybear87, are you feeling a bit let down by how Williams Racing performed, especially after they looked so promising during the practice sessions?

Not sure why I would be. They had a total meltdown during the race, just like Red Bull Racing, and even Toyota struggled big time. Realistically, right now the power rankings look like this:

unknown and Toyota, somewhere in that bracket
Red Bull Racing and Williams Racing, somewhere there
Ferrari
unknown
everyone else☕

Assuming the FIA doesn't hand out penalties and everyone actually finishes the race—even Ferrari isn't looking at points, let alone the rest of the field.☕

mistybear87 said:Yeah, that was certainly an interesting sight.
I'd venture to guess the cables just snapped. I mean, seeing Sebastian Vettel dragging that tire such a long distance before Nick Heidfeld ended up pinning it against the wall... it really looked like the tethers gave way.🤷

Vettel's wheel stayed on the car the whole damn time.😉

Robert Kubica's wheels went flying all over the track.☕

Gary Palmer8 said:🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

but you could say he learned a tough lesson after hitting Webber under the safety car—it was a total mess! Still, he’s young—he'll learn 😉

Please. He hasn't a clue. Massa and Kimi are way better—they smash into barriers, rip out fuel lines, and run over mechanics. Hamilton is a total genius; he drives straight into parked cars in the pits or parks in the gravel right at the pit entry. But oh, Vettel is just "clumsy" because he's actually defending a position during a race. ☕

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Gary Palmer8 said:still better than Renault... plus they don't even have their own tire supplier 👍

🤣 Where do you even live? Still stuck in the Michelin era or something? 😕

Everyone uses Bridgestone tires now. 😉

🙏I don't know why I even bother. Clearly, you don't follow Formula 1. 😬

Maria Nelson2 said:If you don't remember, he's the guy with the short hair and glasses... worked his way through Ferrari... then Honda... and now the whole outfit is basically named after him.😬

You forgot Benetton.😉 😁

Amanda Kelly said:Honestly, I can barely remember Brawn even existed last year. 🤷

How can you "not remember" a car with zero sponsors on it? 😬

fadedpanther4 said:It seems objectivity just goes out the window the moment your favorite driver takes a podium😉. 😁

🤣 Look, objectively speaking, that was pure insanity. But then again, the FIA has tolerated this kind of nonsense throughout history. I guess nobody’s allowed to pass him under the SC, right? 😕

Besides, I don't really see why this is being singled out as "dangerous." This kind of driving behind the SC—or even Kimi flying down the track with an Exhaust bouncing around at full speed—doesn't get penalized. So, please, explain to me objectively why *this* deserves a penalty when those didn't.

And hey, he's not the first German to try racing on three wheels. 😬

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74072

Total disaster. They also slapped Trulia with a penalty for absolutely no reason (unless 🤷 is lying), but this whole thing is just ridiculous. I mean, what’s even the point of an SC with only two laps left?🙄 Stopping the race and deciding the podium based on the current standings☕ is pointless. Nothing was going to change in those two laps anyway, unless they wanted to pull stunts like this one.🙄

And of course, we get another guy celebrating on the podium only to end up with zero points at the next race.🙄

The FIA claims they want overtaking and excitement, yet they penalize drivers for actual racing incidents.😵 What's next? Penalizing anyone who happens to be significantly faster than the rest during qualifying? It's awful. I honestly have a feeling that in seven days, they'll be handing out penalties to BGP or whoever manages to land on the podium. This situation with Toyota makes zero sense anymore; they might as well sell the whole team for a dollar just to stop dealing with this nonsense.😢

Donna Nelson23 said:I honestly think they penalized him because he didn't pit—instead, he just kept chasing the safety car, clearly hoping he could hang onto his position if the race ended under those conditions.
If they had just shown him this, we wouldn't have been left in the dark like that...

He got an order from the pit wall for that, and that's not why he was penalized—just read the link above. 😉Otherwise, why would he get flagged? Rubens drove half a race with a broken wing, and last year Kimi dealt with a loose exhaust flapping in the wind. Same goes for when Kimi had those totally shredded tires and a car bouncing off the track because of them. Even Vettel spent time behind the SC and realistically could have finished P2, no matter how stupid it looked.

It’s hardly a shock that Nick Heidfeld was struggling😢



He had his own fair share of issues right at the start

And since it wasn't Fernando Alonso on the side, Blažičko was busy bringing up Nelson Piquet on the grass😕

Man, Brawn GP is built like a tank😲



A totally clean situation. They would've been handing out penalties for this stuff last year

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns21313.html

🙄The FIA claims they stepped in because Sebastian Vettel basically confessed he was struggling but was hell-bent on keeping his spot.🙄

It’s pathetic. They're actually punishing drivers just for what they say. 😵 Forget the racing, let's all head to the Betting shops—Kimi was clearly the real champ in 2009. 😬 There's zero competition. ☕

And here's the proof I was talking about:

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...29134226.shtml

So the FIA penalized a driver over a standard racing incident, all because of something Sebastian Vettel said over the Team radio.🙄

Morgan Murphy7 said:Honestly, I’m ready to put some money down right now that they won't manage to pick up another 18 points before the season wraps up.🙏

Not likely.☕

Given this driver lineup, it’s hardly a shock. Today was pure luck. The car is incredible, but these two drivers have zero clue. I hate myself for even saying this, but if Michael Schumacher had been in this cockpit today, he would've lapped the guy behind him by a lap or two, regardless of the SC. This Rubens guy is a total disaster. And honestly, I can't remember the last time I saw such a pathetic second-place finish. Then you've got Button, who looks terrified of his own car—it's like he was driving at half throttle.🤷 Plus, he got lucky with those new SC rules; if things were like last year, he'd be sitting around 7th or 8th.☕

I still don't get that nonsense where everyone had to wait for Button just because he was technically the leader of the lap when the SC came out. He wasn't even on track; he was in the pits. But according to the stats, he was number one since Sebastian Vettel hadn't crossed the start-finish line yet. If it were Button, he probably would've ended up in 7th or 8th after exiting the pits, at least that's how it looks to me.🤷

Does anyone actually have the lap times from just before and after the first SC deployment?🤷

I'm still stuck on why they let the SC pass after Vettel had basically driven a whole lap ahead of it, only to make everyone wait for Button to take the lead.😕

If Red Bull Racing doesn't lodge an official protest against this idiotic penalty, they’ve clearly lost their minds.☕

Rebecca Thomas5 said:
Kubica probably should have just waited for one of those two openings to make his move

Look, he could've overtaken him on any straightaway and been three seconds faster per lap☕ anywhere else besides that damn turn☕

Rebecca Thomas5 said:They both completely blew it. Honestly, Robert Kubica should have just held his nerve until he hit that semi-circular straightaway, where he could have slipped right past without all the drama... and as for Sebastian Vettel, he really just needed to ease off the throttle on that stretch before the turn.

It’s easy to play armchair expert after the fact. If you ask me, Robert Kubica is just as much to blame here—maybe even more than Sebastian Vettel. He’s sitting in a way faster car and is forcing risky moves for absolutely no reason. Meanwhile, Vettel is just fighting to hold onto second place with some pretty sketchy driving, but honestly, he doesn't have much choice since his tires are completely shot. What was he supposed to do? Just stay out of everyone's way or pull into the pits and retire immediately?🙄 A real driver always defends his position. He’s not just going to hand it over for free.🙄 Whether they bring back the old 12, 9, 7, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 scoring system or go back to rewarding wins specifically, we’re going to see the true impact at every single race.☕

Honestly, I still prefer him and Robert Kubica. They’re both the kind of drivers who navigate a track like grandmas crossing the street—if someone looks even slightly faster behind them, they just veer off to the side and give up. It's ridiculous. Wouldn't it be nice if they actually tried to grab a single point instead of just throwing it all away? ☕

Honestly, this just makes me hate the FIA even more.👎 That penalty is absolute garbage. Zero common sense involved. It was just a racing incident, plain and simple. And honestly, what’s so dangerous about circling the track behind the Safety Car? Give me a break.🙄 Remember when Kimi was tearing it up on a blown tire? Good times. 186 milesWell, he completely fell apart in the final lap. I mean, let's be real—Rubens spent the entire first half of the race driving around with a smashed front wing and bits of carbon fiber dangling off the car.🙄 It’s not like it’s actually dangerous. 😵 And apparently, Kimi's exhaust was just as dangerous too. Honestly, their consistency when it comes to making decisions and enforcing rules is enough to give you a massive headache.🙄

Rebecca Thomas5 said:did you ever stop to realize that Brawn actually managed to snag more points in just one race—we're talking 18 here—than they hauled in during the entire previous season combined... which was only 14... and Jenson is right there with them too

Honestly, ☕ given how the FIA is acting regarding those controversial diffusers, I wouldn't be shocked if they just disqualify everyone and strip them of their points entirely.😢 FIA 👎👎👎

Sophia Jones61 said:Kimi’s probably just gonna wait until halfway through the season to actually start driving, as per usual. 😁

Vettel is basically the new Kimi. 😍 🎉

I guess so.😢

Gary Palmer8 said:Lol, Kubica isn't even slightly to blame... you're just judging him because you're trying to make excuses for that paid actor Vettel... you'd think he learned his lesson after that messy collision with Webber under the SC, but nope—he's still got more tricks up his sleeve.

Besides... Kubica had to make that pass early if he wanted any chance of catching Button... it wasn't just about getting ahead of Vettel. And what else was he supposed to do? Just sit there for a few more laps waiting for someone else to wreck so he could limp home in 3rd under the SC?

Come on, don't be silly—just admit it when your favorite driver pulls one of the biggest blunders in F1 history.

Haha, that's exactly why Kubica keeps insisting it's all Vettel's fault.🙄

Everyone knows he’s at fault, just like Sebastian Vettel. If he hadn't lashed out, people would be tearing him to shreds right now. Honestly, calling this one of the biggest blunders in F1 history is something only someone who’s actually watched a season or two would say.🙄