Ronald Rogers27 said:I think your second and third paragraphs are a bit too idealistic. No matter how much things change, society is always going to project its own conflicts onto the people around it. Society evolves, and honestly, I feel like it moves way faster than any one individual can. For a single person to outpace the rest of society, they’d need this incredibly sharp vision of the future based on their own predictions.
Maybe someone like that could actually break free from the friction society forces on them. But you have to admit, you could probably count those kinds of people in any given country on just two hands, right?
Ronald Rogers27
To say that "society evolves faster than the individual" is really comparing apples to oranges... societal evolution is an incredibly sluggish mechanism that stretches across generations of people, whereas an individual—in this context—is merely a flash in the pan of history (though an individual does "evolve" through their internal struggle with themselves, their own demons, desires, limitations, and so on). Yet, these "flashes" are the sole engine of societal progress; without them, there would be no movement at all. Just look at the concept of being "ahead of one's time," or being "misunderstood" by the community you live in—only for society, much later, to recognize and utilize that person's contribution through others—it just goes to show how different the "tempo" of society truly is.
An individual doesn't actually need some grand "vision of the future" to achieve personal "evolution faster than society"—truth be told, what drives a person most is often just sheer dissatisfaction with the present, with restrictive circumstances, the nature of their culture, or the very conflicts society has forced upon them. It is pain, essentially, that pushes us forward.
What an individual possesses that society lacks—and what society can only "acquire" through the individual—is creativity, ideas, gifts, and raw talent; that spark of novelty an individual brings to the table. Society renews itself only through the creativity of individuals, and that is how it evolves. The individual, however, draws from the collective pool—a massive reservoir of information—which then serves as the foundation for those creative ideas.
atko said:You're talking about variations, not the universal meaning of morality. Who sets the norms?
It is precisely because norms are established that there is no universal meaning to morality; it evolves alongside the process of establishment—namely, with the shifting "interest groups." Universally speaking, there is only something akin to a personal, basic, intuitive ethical code (something even animals possess) that exists prior to all the learned norms brought by culture and society, but we weren't really discussing that.