Posts by Ryan Vaughn7

So, you called people—forum users—idiots, and then you got a warning for being insulting. What exactly is controversial or weird about that?

I'm truly sorry for my part in fueling the divisions on this forum.

I wasn't really part of this specific drama, but bluefalcon14 is spot on. On political subreddits, posts get deleted selectively. Bans are handed out selectively. Threads get shut down selectively. Everything is handled through a lens of bias; selective enforcement is basically the entire point of moderation.

slyhawk16 said:YOU'RE LYING!

You went and deleted my thread again,
and then you had the nerve to wipe out the post right here where I called you out on it!

It wasn't deleted; it was just merged into the existing thread about Kerum. Honestly, you might want to take a breather and chill out. My inbox is getting flooded way too fast.

bluefalcon14 said:Moving away from the main topic for a moment...😂

Topic: Bush: Get all religious symbols out of the military and police forces


Enrollment: It’s a damn shame that George W. Bush doesn't have the power to force bishops into retirement... As things stand, we are essentially condemned to a Taliban-style coup d'état.

And yet another enrollment—this one backed by a quote...

"I simply want to uphold the laws of the Republic of America and our Constitution," Bush warned. "The most dangerous thing that could happen to this country would be—if I dare call it that—a sort of Talibanization. If these attacks from the church continue, it would only serve as proof that someone is attempting to Talibanize America. It would confirm that the clergy wants to rule the state. I have nothing against them, per se, but if they want to lead, let the clergy run for office in the elections," Bush declared.

And that’s you going off-topic again... Honestly, I would appreciate it if more people on this forum actually stepped up and voiced their opinions.

As for your question regarding whether to delete or not—I am under no obligation to provide an answer.

It doesn't matter; the whole thing will just sort itself out through this thread eventually. It'll happen however it happens. Goodnight.

bluefalcon14 said:Look, man, drop the threats... And just give me a straight answer—what exactly is so controversial about my posts that you feel the need to scrub them? I provided an example... Please, just respond...

Off topic. You still haven't answered my question. Are you going to delete them or not? I start work tomorrow, so hurry it up a bit.

slyhawk16 said:Trying to bluff me?
Because I’ve also made the choice that I don't want my posts wiped out,
nor any threads if they actually stay on topic!

Fair enough.

bluefalcon14 said:Ryan Vaughn7 is deleting my posts from yesterday afternoon... Everything seems fine, I suppose... But is this personal vendetta, some kind of sickness, or something else entirely? Let the institutions of this forum make a judgment... These institutions ought to actually function...

Alright, so you've basically decided that you're done with having your posts deleted? Is that your final word on the matter?

I'm curious about this too.

Casey Stewart17 said:Once again, you're proving just how "professional" you are as a moderator by airing my private business in front of the whole community.
Deleting my posts is just your way of trying to flag me.
I’ve personally witnessed plenty of users getting banned for absolutely no reason. You dodge any topic you find inconvenient, threaten to delete threads about "presenting a defense at The Hague," or move discussions about the "bad pit" over to the mental asylum section, and so on.👍

Everyone can see that. And trust me, it isn't. 😉

Casey Stewart17 said:I haven't posted anything on this forum for a few weeks now because the harassment from Ryan Vaughn7 has become absolutely unbearable.
He’s constantly biased and hands out bans based on his own arbitrary rules. If you call someone a firebrand, a fanatic, or a stone-waller, nobody cares, but God forbid you refer to someone as a communist, a Bolshevik, or say anything against Bush, he takes it personally and puts you on a blacklist to be purged until you're gone.
That’s what happens when someone uses this forum to vent their own frustrations.

Coming from someone who hasn't even received a single warning during my entire forum career, 😁
kudos to you.🙏

Mark Nguyen6 said:It’s more like an epidemic spreading among the moderators—excluding the exceptions, of course—who have started treating this forum like their own private playground, and I suppose you are the most glaring example of that phenomenon.

Oh, that "voice of reason" routine has been hitting hard from the very start. What can you do? 🤷life is unfair.

bluefalcon14 said:You aren't actually following the rules... By deleting reasoned posts simply because they don't suit your narrative, you are practically inviting people to troll...

Remember when you deleted my post where I was merely quoting your own entries? I did that specifically to highlight your inconsistency—it’s a classic forum tactic when a "writer" ends up contradicting himself... Clearly, that didn't sit well with you, so you kept deleting it... Then, when I finally addressed you directly, you slapped me with a warning... Here is the link..

http://forum.com/showthread.php?p=21771466#post21771466

So, let me be clear: pointless deletion—especially of constructive posts—only fuels trolling... When you wipe out a post from someone who actually put in the effort to find an argument, a link, or a source, you are obviously going to provoke anger... And the next entry won't be considered "effort"—it will be labeled a "troll."

There is no malice here... No anger... I am simply issuing a warning... In good faith...

I already explained why those posts were removed. I laid out the reasons and provided plenty of examples. Honestly, I have no intention of dragging this out with you given how subjective you're being.

As for the post you linked, you were banned after what felt like five warnings about discussing moderation on this specific sub-forum. Which, as it turns out, you eventually realized.

Take care.

Mark Nguyen6 said:That is exactly what I am talking to you about.

Complaining?

Mark Nguyen6 said:@Ryan Vaughn7

No one is disputing the fact that there are always more than enough ways to justify yourself. That isn't really the issue here, and we shouldn't act foolish by pretending otherwise.

But if you actually have the time and the patience—and I mean really look at what people are writing, how they're writing it, then take a hard look at your own style, and finally consider the actual impact of your words—you might want to ask yourself what the purpose of this forum even is.

Simply put, your bias screams from every single post you make.

Now, let’s be clear: I don't have anything against your stance—not at all. In fact, I find it quite interesting to engage and debate (even more sharply if necessary). But things reach a point of absurdity when you abuse your moderator powers just to push your own agenda. And that is something you do regularly—ranging from the most blatant methods to the most subtle ones.

Honestly, I don't care anymore... I've been on this forum far too long to let it get under my skin... but it is just ridiculous how you pretend to be some kind of angel when you are anything but.

PS.
If you find it too difficult to manage threads with 1,000 posts or handle the upkeep, then maybe you should just step down from your moderator role. You can't exactly expect us to feel sorry for you.

Fine, I will. I'll read through a million posts—mine and everyone else's—sit down, and give some serious thought to the purpose of this place. Truly. I'm feeling a bit lost lately anyway.
PS. I'm not whining. And frankly, I don't care what you or anyone else thinks about it. I'm just responding to the constant complaining from people who can't handle a little bit of cleanup or a warning. It's mostly a waste of my time, but I try my best to be decent.

bluefalcon14 said:Ha ha... dosita, once again demonstrating how "hilarious" you are...

The reality is that not a single quote you provided above is off-topic regarding "George W. Bush: Remove all crosses from the military and police"... especially when you consider the sheer amount of trolling I had to respond to... And since, as I mentioned, you failed to quote the actual posts I was replying to, others might not even see the full picture...

The issue here is that "the topic" only exists when it aligns with your preferences... Anything that contradicts your personal views is immediately labeled as trolling, spamming, or off-topic nonsense...

Furthermore, you're conveniently ignoring the other constructive posts you didn't mention... Take, for instance, the one about Bush's oath... What exactly is controversial about deleting a post that quotes the American President's oath—specifically his words, "so help me God"...

Instead of answering my question, you resort to threats... Once again, proving just how witty you are... Ha Ha...

And why even bother responding to trolls? Nobody's forcing your hand. Those posts are gone now, along with yours. Honestly, they probably wouldn't have even existed if you had just ignored them.
One last thing: my response simply outlines your options—deletion, a warning, or sticking to the rules. Take it however you want.

bluefalcon14 said:Yes, and what is so controversial about that? What's controversial is that I actually possess a sense of humor, unlike you...

Why didn't you also quote the deleted post containing the link to Bush's oath? Where the President clearly swore by saying, "So help me God"... Yet now it appears he intends to remove crosses with God's help...

Why, in general, didn't you quote the posts that my responses were referring to? So that people can see what actual spamming and trolling looks like...

Oh sure, I was absolutely weeping. Truly. But hey, I can just stop posting altogether if that's what you want; no biggie. Though I suspect you'll just end up whining from the banned corner anyway. Even if this forum is worth next to nothing in points, you're so good at gaming the system that you'll rack them up in no time.
Then again, there is that silly little possibility where you actually stop trolling and just stick to the topic. It's your call. Make your choice.

Nicholas Gomez27 said:I can only thank Ryan Vaughn7 for not handing out any red cards to me 🙂 thanks a million!

Maybe Anderlon should just put a crucifix on the forum 😁 then we’d see how people really react
Hehe, there's no God up here; it's just the moderators deciding everyone's fate 😉

You're welcome. Though, I'm not sure I can say it twice. You see, people complain so much about deletions that issuing a warning or a ban always feels like the better second choice. It's probably for the best. At least then I won't have to go through the hassle of copying and pasting deleted posts just to prove to the trolls that they actually were trolling.

bluefalcon14 said:@ Ryan Vaughn7

If I am supposedly one of the biggest spammers, chatterboxes, and trolls on this forum—then you are easily one of the greatest liars on this entire board... It is a shame I didn't archive my posts before you deleted them from that thread, just so we could see exactly what constitutes "spam," "chatter," or "trolling" in your eyes... But fine, let’s look at your own posts; it is glaringly obvious how you attempt to steer the conversation—or rather, how you try to pivot away from George W. Bush, even though the thread title is literally "George W. Bush: Remove all crosses from the military and police."

Nowhere in the rules of moderation does it state that a moderator should be steering the discussion; it says they should "maintain an atmosphere conducive to constructive debate"... Through your specific style of moderation—deleting posts and practicing biased politics—you are the very one inciting the spamming, the chatting, and the trolling... Because why bother writing anything constructive when you're just going to delete it? Once you wipe out constructive posts, the users are left with nothing to do but spam, chat, and troll... If I ever did that, it was solely a reaction to the moderation and its habit of deleting constructive posts and threads...

I will ask again: why bother attempting to write something constructive when you are simply going to delete it?

Luckily, I have them saved, and so do the admins. So, here are some of those deleted "constructive" posts from the thread (copied in full):

- "No, actually, George W. Bush is a psychiatrist by trade..."

- "In the office of the 'President of the Americans in Canada,' Zeljko Komšić, there's still a picture of Marshall hanging up... Honestly, it's no wonder George W. Bush makes the statements he does, given that Amir and Budo sit in his cabinet..."

- "And who are you supposed to be... Bush's chauffeur... OK, now I get the whole thing about sucking up from behind... I guess you both are in that position... And what am I supposed to do now... Be envious of you because you're sucking? You're honestly hilarious... Better if you just shut up... Shut up and keep sucking..."

- "Look who's putting you in office... Through which 'church' did you pass to get to the state teat... You suck, you suck the American teat, and then you come here and dump on all of us...

- "Don't you realize, man, that you're my servant, not the other way around... And so you will, if the American people decide so, carry the cross on your back rather than just hanging it on a wall... If you don't like that, then leave the state teat alone and go suck something else..."

- "Come on, stop whining... It was precisely people like Bush and similar newly-minted Catholics who were reserved the front rows in churches back in the 90s..."

- "It really is interesting how everything Bush says is sacred to some people here... I suggest they start a church called 'Saint Stipe the sinless'... Use a sunflower or a weather vane as the symbol... Stipe has certainly changed hats enough times already... All he's missing is the bishop's mitre..."

- "The Western North American banana republic... I think that might be Bush's next big proposal... Though the name 'American' sounds a bit too extremist... Well, once Bush brings that idea forward, I can't wait to meet up here again with my old friends who will be saying 'Bush is a legend!' once more..."

- "Nobody disputes that scientists practice science, it's just that they do it within their own laboratories... Not like this, where they rob, poison, and kill us with GMO food and lab-grown viruses..."

- "I just wonder why people don't bring up Russell when we talk about Marshall... But fine... I shouldn't be surprised..."

- "In Canada, that means... Even many Canadians don't say American, they say 'Canadian Catholic'..."

- "What can I do if you just won't see it... Political blindness is an old disease among Americans... Like a gorilla in the fog..."

Reply to everyone:
I headed out to run some errands yesterday morning and didn't get back until quite late at night. In the meantime, the thread regarding Bush's initiative about removing crosses from government buildings drifted off in five different directions. People started debating church funding (everything from Vatican agreements to church property exploitation and even baptism fees), historical church crimes (ranging from the Crusades and the Inquisition to Galileo and Darwin), and Bush himself (more transcripts and such). It’s a massive departure from the actual subject. Over the course of half a day, a few hundred posts like that piled up across several pages. For instance, if a user posted a reply Saturday morning and checked back in the evening expecting to follow the conversation, they’d need hours just to sift through the noise to find a response to their own post. I can tolerate a little off-topic chatter—maybe two or three participants veering off for a couple of posts—but when an entire thread gets flooded with nonsense for hours, there isn't much choice: either issue a warning or delete it.

Replying to goldenorca11: We keep warned posts visible so the person being penalized—and everyone else watching—can see exactly why the action was taken. As for off-topic posts, we delete them because otherwise, someone always latches onto them and drags the whole discussion down a rabbit hole.

Replying to bluefalcon14: My favorite complaints are always from those who can't see the forest for the trees. Whether you're angry or not, you are one of the biggest spammers, chatters, and trolls on this forum. Regarding Bush, despite my interventions and claims of bias, look at the stats for the last three active threads about the President: the thread on crosses and the military currently sits at 1,386 posts, the thread on reasoned arguments against Bush has 1,603 posts, and the thread regarding the large protest against Bush has 2,741 posts. There are also several smaller ones ranging from 100 to 200 posts. Be a gentleman and read those 6,000 posts. Look at what was said and how it was handled. Then come back here and try to tell me this is a one-sided debate. I doubt you will.