Can psychology actually help fix relationship issues?
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lonegardener said:What would you actually do if your child became a sympathizer of a Nazi regime, for example? Don't get me wrong—I'm not trying to compare Jehovah's Witnesses to Nazis here. It's strictly about your own feelings and your stance. Could you truly love a son who was obsessed with Hitler? To make things even more interesting, let's say he isn't doing anything terrible. He isn't out there fighting people, stealing, or bullying anyone (and certainly nothing worse). He just hangs pictures of Hitler on his wall and talks about how he was a fantastic man with perfectly righteous views. 😬
How would you react?
I refuse to ever take that kind of stance—that "us versus them" mentality where one group is "elite" and the other is "scum." Honestly, that's probably because of the Nationalist Party. For me, it's not enough to just be part of an elite; I want the elite to be beneath me. 🤣
Can that also be applied to something like a Love Parade or massive pop/rock concerts? Like Woodstock, for example? Since we're discussing the psychology of large crowds and losing inhibitions...
I don't know a single person whose behavior is truly consistent. To be honest, I can't even say the same for myself. My own actions are incredibly inconsistent, and there are times when I feel completely irrational.
When it comes to intelligence and the inherent differences between people, you’re making a mistake if you think that observation is strictly objective. It’s an undeniable fact that some individuals are more intellectually advanced than others. But why dwell on that gap? Even if you consider yourself intellectually superior to your most primitive neighbor, the distance between you and him is still microscopic compared to the massive divide between him and the next smartest animal on Earth. So, why focus on our differences when we should be looking at our similarities?
Aren't you making the Same Type of mistake made by those who hate, despise, or look down on someone based solely on their nationality, religion, or skin color? You might argue that intelligence is far more significant than any of those factors—and you might even be right—but the logical analogy remains just as valid. To him, it matters more that one person lives on the left side of the Mississippi while the other lives on the right, rather than the simple fact that they are both human beings. To you, it matters more that one is an intellectual and the other is a bumpkin. 😬It’s not about that, really—it’s simply because they are both human beings.
"Quote:"
What kind of nonsense are you talking about? Here, take a look at this Wikipedia entry:
Narcissistic personality disorder is a complex issue that often gets misunderstood in casual conversation. While people frequently throw the term around to describe anyone acting selfishly, true NPD is a deep-seated psychological pattern involving a pervasive need for admiration and a profound lack of empathy. It’s more than just being "full of yourself"; it's a fundamental struggle with identity and how one relates to the world. Understanding the distinction between simple ego and a clinical disorder is crucial for anyone trying to navigate these difficult dynamics.
He carries himself with a massive sense of self-importance.
The second sign is often lost in a dream world, constantly chasing visions of limitless success, absolute power, or some kind of flawless, idealized love.
They truly believe they’re one of a kind—some sort of rare breed that only their own "special" circle could ever hope to understand.
4. demands far too much praise.
5. A deep sense of entitlement.
6. They'll step over anyone just to get what they want.
7. A total lack of empathy.
Number eight on the list is that tendency to live in a state of constant envy—or, just as frequently, the assumption that everyone else is looking at you with envy. It’s a bit of a cycle, isn't it? Whether they're coveting what someone else has or convinced that their own success has made them a target for jealousy, it creates this restless, defensive mindset.
9. Arrogance.
Antisocial personality disorder is a complex diagnosis that often gets misunderstood in casual conversation. It isn't just about being "rebellious" or having a bit of an attitude; it’s a deep-seated pattern of disregarding the rights of others and failing to conform to social norms. When we talk about this, we have to look past the Hollywood stereotypes and focus on the clinical reality of how these individuals interact with the world around them.
It’s basically when someone just refuses to play by the rules. They repeatedly engage in behavior that's clearly against the law, essentially showing a total disregard for social norms through actions that would get anyone else arrested on the spot.
Deceitfulness—whether it’s through constant lying, hiding behind fake identities, or running scams just to line your pockets or satisfy an ego—is a serious issue. It’s more than just being dishonest; it's about intentional manipulation for personal gain.
3. Impulsivity, or simply failing to look before you leap.
4. Irritability and aggression, specifically when it manifests through frequent physical altercations or assaults.
5. Reckless disregard for the safety of oneself or others.
It really comes down to a pattern of consistent irresponsibility—the kind that shows up when someone repeatedly fails to maintain a steady work ethic or simply refuses to honor their financial commitments.
7. A total lack of remorse. This shows up when someone is completely indifferent to the pain they've caused, or worse, they start making excuses for why hurting, mistreating, or stealing from someone else was actually justified.
Do you feel like none of this actually describes you? Personally, I can only see myself in maybe two or three points of the first one, and maybe three or four of the second. 🤷
"Quote:"
What exactly are they doing? And do you actually know how? Is this based on actual field research, or are you just taking someone else's word for it? Honestly, if you could point to specific sources to back up what you claim to know, that would be one thing. But I suspect you can’t quite do that—feel free to correct me if I'm wrong—you just "know," without being able to explain how. Here is my take: if I can't pinpoint exactly where a piece of information comes from, I don't consider it knowledge. Period. I need to know precisely what I am leaning on at any given moment. Who am I implicitly trusting just to keep this supposed "knowledge" standing? It matters, because in this day and age, it is incredibly easy to mistake a lie for the truth.
Furthermore, what kind of authority does the church actually hold? Personally, I don't see any at all. You claim that such authority doesn't belong to them, and honestly, I’d agree—if you could just tell me who that authority *does* belong to. Is it politicians? Psychiatrists? Wealthy merchants? Judges? Lawyers? Most of those people are capable of exerting a far more direct influence on my life than any religious institution ever could. Can you give me one practical example of what would actually be different in your life if this unearned clerical authority didn't exist?
"Quote:"Let’s be honest: a lot of "evil" has been done under the wing of religion. I put "evil" in quotes because, frankly, I’m not even sure what defines it anymore. One thing that really bugs me about organized religion is how easily people label things as "evil," as if they're just discussing onions and water. If we throw that word around so carelessly, what’s even the point of using it? That part isn't up for debate. But look at the reality today—even in highly religious nations, you see things happening that most of the West moved past centuries ago.
Angela Rogers2 Asks:
You take an average, mindless follower and plant a seed of opinion in their head. From there, they just run with it, fueled by that typical small-town, barroom logic. Before you know it, they’re raising their own kids under a heavy blanket of passive-aggression, disguised as God, karma, angels, or demons. To be honest, it disturbs me—at least to the extent that I still have to participate in this society. I won't even get started on the damage done by creationists, cults, or radical religious movements. Religion, quite frankly, does a massive amount of evil in this world.
If I were living in Baghdad, maybe all this would bother me. But since religion has zero impact on my day-to-day life, I honestly couldn't care less about the topic. What actually concerns me are situations like yours and Tanya's. It’s wild when someone gets so obsessed with religious debates that they fail to see how those institutions lost their grip on American society ages ago, leaving other structures to take the lead.
See, I’m not quite that much of an optimist. Based on certain things I've seen, I feel like if today's religious structures were to disappear, new mechanisms would simply emerge to keep the masses in line. Take popular Hollywood teen dramas, for example. If you watch all the trending shows, you quickly learn what you can and cannot say or even think; you learn which behaviors are acceptable and which will push you to the fringes of society. It's a very effective way of socializing people.
Anyway, sorry for the long-winded tangent. We totally veered off track. Let me try to get back to the point: no, I don't believe psychology can do all that much to help with men-and-women relationships. 😁 Then again, since I haven't tested that theory personally, who knows? I might be wrong.
I’d probably ask him why he’s acting out, what I did wrong while raising him, and what's actually bothering him.
Because if my kid is so messed up that, despite all the obvious facts that Hitler was a monster, he thinks the guy was a genius... then damn, there's a serious underlying issue there.
lonegardener said:What would you actually do if your child became a sympathizer of a Nazi regime, for example? Don't get me wrong—I'm not trying to compare Jehovah's Witnesses to Nazis here. It's strictly about your own feelings and your stance. Could you truly love a son who was obsessed with Hitler? To make things even more interesting, let's say he isn't doing anything terrible. He isn't out there fighting people, stealing, or bullying anyone (and certainly nothing worse). He just hangs pictures of Hitler on his wall and talks about how he was a fantastic man with perfectly righteous views. 😬
How would you react?
I refuse to ever take that kind of stance—that "us versus them" mentality where one group is "elite" and the other is "scum." Honestly, that's probably because of the Nationalist Party. For me, it's not enough to just be part of an elite; I want the elite to be beneath me. 🤣
Can that also be applied to something like a Love Parade or massive pop/rock concerts? Like Woodstock, for example? Since we're discussing the psychology of large crowds and losing inhibitions...
I don't know a single person whose behavior is truly consistent. To be honest, I can't even say the same for myself. My own actions are incredibly inconsistent, and there are times when I feel completely irrational.
When it comes to intelligence and the inherent differences between people, you’re making a mistake if you think that observation is strictly objective. It’s an undeniable fact that some individuals are more intellectually advanced than others. But why dwell on that gap? Even if you consider yourself intellectually superior to your most primitive neighbor, the distance between you and him is still microscopic compared to the massive divide between him and the next smartest animal on Earth. So, why focus on our differences when we should be looking at our similarities?
Aren't you making the Same Type of mistake made by those who hate, despise, or look down on someone based solely on their nationality, religion, or skin color? You might argue that intelligence is far more significant than any of those factors—and you might even be right—but the logical analogy remains just as valid. To him, it matters more that one person lives on the left side of the Mississippi while the other lives on the right, rather than the simple fact that they are both human beings. To you, it matters more that one is an intellectual and the other is a bumpkin. 😬It’s not about that, really—it’s simply because they are both human beings.
"Quote:"
What kind of nonsense are you talking about? Here, take a look at this Wikipedia entry:
Narcissistic personality disorder is a complex issue that often gets misunderstood in casual conversation. While people frequently throw the term around to describe anyone acting selfishly, true NPD is a deep-seated psychological pattern involving a pervasive need for admiration and a profound lack of empathy. It’s more than just being "full of yourself"; it's a fundamental struggle with identity and how one relates to the world. Understanding the distinction between simple ego and a clinical disorder is crucial for anyone trying to navigate these difficult dynamics.
He carries himself with a massive sense of self-importance.
The second sign is often lost in a dream world, constantly chasing visions of limitless success, absolute power, or some kind of flawless, idealized love.
They truly believe they’re one of a kind—some sort of rare breed that only their own "special" circle could ever hope to understand.
4. demands far too much praise.
5. A deep sense of entitlement.
6. They'll step over anyone just to get what they want.
7. A total lack of empathy.
Number eight on the list is that tendency to live in a state of constant envy—or, just as frequently, the assumption that everyone else is looking at you with envy. It’s a bit of a cycle, isn't it? Whether they're coveting what someone else has or convinced that their own success has made them a target for jealousy, it creates this restless, defensive mindset.
9. Arrogance.
Antisocial personality disorder is a complex diagnosis that often gets misunderstood in casual conversation. It isn't just about being "rebellious" or having a bit of an attitude; it’s a deep-seated pattern of disregarding the rights of others and failing to conform to social norms. When we talk about this, we have to look past the Hollywood stereotypes and focus on the clinical reality of how these individuals interact with the world around them.
It’s basically when someone just refuses to play by the rules. They repeatedly engage in behavior that's clearly against the law, essentially showing a total disregard for social norms through actions that would get anyone else arrested on the spot.
Deceitfulness—whether it’s through constant lying, hiding behind fake identities, or running scams just to line your pockets or satisfy an ego—is a serious issue. It’s more than just being dishonest; it's about intentional manipulation for personal gain.
3. Impulsivity, or simply failing to look before you leap.
4. Irritability and aggression, specifically when it manifests through frequent physical altercations or assaults.
5. Reckless disregard for the safety of oneself or others.
It really comes down to a pattern of consistent irresponsibility—the kind that shows up when someone repeatedly fails to maintain a steady work ethic or simply refuses to honor their financial commitments.
7. A total lack of remorse. This shows up when someone is completely indifferent to the pain they've caused, or worse, they start making excuses for why hurting, mistreating, or stealing from someone else was actually justified.
Do you feel like none of this actually describes you? Personally, I can only see myself in maybe two or three points of the first one, and maybe three or four of the second. 🤷
"Quote:"
What exactly are they doing? And do you actually know how? Is this based on actual field research, or are you just taking someone else's word for it? Honestly, if you could point to specific sources to back up what you claim to know, that would be one thing. But I suspect you can’t quite do that—feel free to correct me if I'm wrong—you just "know," without being able to explain how. Here is my take: if I can't pinpoint exactly where a piece of information comes from, I don't consider it knowledge. Period. I need to know precisely what I am leaning on at any given moment. Who am I implicitly trusting just to keep this supposed "knowledge" standing? It matters, because in this day and age, it is incredibly easy to mistake a lie for the truth.
Furthermore, what kind of authority does the church actually hold? Personally, I don't see any at all. You claim that such authority doesn't belong to them, and honestly, I’d agree—if you could just tell me who that authority *does* belong to. Is it politicians? Psychiatrists? Wealthy merchants? Judges? Lawyers? Most of those people are capable of exerting a far more direct influence on my life than any religious institution ever could. Can you give me one practical example of what would actually be different in your life if this unearned clerical authority didn't exist?
"Quote:"Let’s be honest: a lot of "evil" has been done under the wing of religion. I put "evil" in quotes because, frankly, I’m not even sure what defines it anymore. One thing that really bugs me about organized religion is how easily people label things as "evil," as if they're just discussing onions and water. If we throw that word around so carelessly, what’s even the point of using it? That part isn't up for debate. But look at the reality today—even in highly religious nations, you see things happening that most of the West moved past centuries ago.
Angela Rogers2 Asks:
You take an average, mindless follower and plant a seed of opinion in their head. From there, they just run with it, fueled by that typical small-town, barroom logic. Before you know it, they’re raising their own kids under a heavy blanket of passive-aggression, disguised as God, karma, angels, or demons. To be honest, it disturbs me—at least to the extent that I still have to participate in this society. I won't even get started on the damage done by creationists, cults, or radical religious movements. Religion, quite frankly, does a massive amount of evil in this world.
If I were living in Baghdad, maybe all this would bother me. But since religion has zero impact on my day-to-day life, I honestly couldn't care less about the topic. What actually concerns me are situations like yours and Tanya's. It’s wild when someone gets so obsessed with religious debates that they fail to see how those institutions lost their grip on American society ages ago, leaving other structures to take the lead.
See, I’m not quite that much of an optimist. Based on certain things I've seen, I feel like if today's religious structures were to disappear, new mechanisms would simply emerge to keep the masses in line. Take popular Hollywood teen dramas, for example. If you watch all the trending shows, you quickly learn what you can and cannot say or even think; you learn which behaviors are acceptable and which will push you to the fringes of society. It's a very effective way of socializing people.
Anyway, sorry for the long-winded tangent. We totally veered off track. Let me try to get back to the point: no, I don't believe psychology can do all that much to help with men-and-women relationships. 😁 Then again, since I haven't tested that theory personally, who knows? I might be wrong.
😁😁😁 I used to believe in brotherhood, unity, equality, and being on equal footing. And I got burned by a little kid for it. Experience is a nasty thing.🤷 🙂
lonegardener said:What would you actually do if your child became a sympathizer of a Nazi regime, for example? Don't get me wrong—I'm not trying to compare Jehovah's Witnesses to Nazis here. It's strictly about your own feelings and your stance. Could you truly love a son who was obsessed with Hitler? To make things even more interesting, let's say he isn't doing anything terrible. He isn't out there fighting people, stealing, or bullying anyone (and certainly nothing worse). He just hangs pictures of Hitler on his wall and talks about how he was a fantastic man with perfectly righteous views. 😬
How would you react?
I refuse to ever take that kind of stance—that "us versus them" mentality where one group is "elite" and the other is "scum." Honestly, that's probably because of the Nationalist Party. For me, it's not enough to just be part of an elite; I want the elite to be beneath me. 🤣
Can that also be applied to something like a Love Parade or massive pop/rock concerts? Like Woodstock, for example? Since we're discussing the psychology of large crowds and losing inhibitions...
I don't know a single person whose behavior is truly consistent. To be honest, I can't even say the same for myself. My own actions are incredibly inconsistent, and there are times when I feel completely irrational.
When it comes to intelligence and the inherent differences between people, you’re making a mistake if you think that observation is strictly objective. It’s an undeniable fact that some individuals are more intellectually advanced than others. But why dwell on that gap? Even if you consider yourself intellectually superior to your most primitive neighbor, the distance between you and him is still microscopic compared to the massive divide between him and the next smartest animal on Earth. So, why focus on our differences when we should be looking at our similarities?
Aren't you making the Same Type of mistake made by those who hate, despise, or look down on someone based solely on their nationality, religion, or skin color? You might argue that intelligence is far more significant than any of those factors—and you might even be right—but the logical analogy remains just as valid. To him, it matters more that one person lives on the left side of the Mississippi while the other lives on the right, rather than the simple fact that they are both human beings. To you, it matters more that one is an intellectual and the other is a bumpkin. 😬It’s not about that, really—it’s simply because they are both human beings.
"Quote:"
What kind of nonsense are you talking about? Here, take a look at this Wikipedia entry:
Narcissistic personality disorder is a complex issue that often gets misunderstood in casual conversation. While people frequently throw the term around to describe anyone acting selfishly, true NPD is a deep-seated psychological pattern involving a pervasive need for admiration and a profound lack of empathy. It’s more than just being "full of yourself"; it's a fundamental struggle with identity and how one relates to the world. Understanding the distinction between simple ego and a clinical disorder is crucial for anyone trying to navigate these difficult dynamics.
He carries himself with a massive sense of self-importance.
The second sign is often lost in a dream world, constantly chasing visions of limitless success, absolute power, or some kind of flawless, idealized love.
They truly believe they’re one of a kind—some sort of rare breed that only their own "special" circle could ever hope to understand.
4. demands far too much praise.
5. A deep sense of entitlement.
6. They'll step over anyone just to get what they want.
7. A total lack of empathy.
Number eight on the list is that tendency to live in a state of constant envy—or, just as frequently, the assumption that everyone else is looking at you with envy. It’s a bit of a cycle, isn't it? Whether they're coveting what someone else has or convinced that their own success has made them a target for jealousy, it creates this restless, defensive mindset.
9. Arrogance.
Antisocial personality disorder is a complex diagnosis that often gets misunderstood in casual conversation. It isn't just about being "rebellious" or having a bit of an attitude; it’s a deep-seated pattern of disregarding the rights of others and failing to conform to social norms. When we talk about this, we have to look past the Hollywood stereotypes and focus on the clinical reality of how these individuals interact with the world around them.
It’s basically when someone just refuses to play by the rules. They repeatedly engage in behavior that's clearly against the law, essentially showing a total disregard for social norms through actions that would get anyone else arrested on the spot.
Deceitfulness—whether it’s through constant lying, hiding behind fake identities, or running scams just to line your pockets or satisfy an ego—is a serious issue. It’s more than just being dishonest; it's about intentional manipulation for personal gain.
3. Impulsivity, or simply failing to look before you leap.
4. Irritability and aggression, specifically when it manifests through frequent physical altercations or assaults.
5. Reckless disregard for the safety of oneself or others.
It really comes down to a pattern of consistent irresponsibility—the kind that shows up when someone repeatedly fails to maintain a steady work ethic or simply refuses to honor their financial commitments.
7. A total lack of remorse. This shows up when someone is completely indifferent to the pain they've caused, or worse, they start making excuses for why hurting, mistreating, or stealing from someone else was actually justified.
Do you feel like none of this actually describes you? Personally, I can only see myself in maybe two or three points of the first one, and maybe three or four of the second. 🤷
"Quote:"
What exactly are they doing? And do you actually know how? Is this based on actual field research, or are you just taking someone else's word for it? Honestly, if you could point to specific sources to back up what you claim to know, that would be one thing. But I suspect you can’t quite do that—feel free to correct me if I'm wrong—you just "know," without being able to explain how. Here is my take: if I can't pinpoint exactly where a piece of information comes from, I don't consider it knowledge. Period. I need to know precisely what I am leaning on at any given moment. Who am I implicitly trusting just to keep this supposed "knowledge" standing? It matters, because in this day and age, it is incredibly easy to mistake a lie for the truth.
Furthermore, what kind of authority does the church actually hold? Personally, I don't see any at all. You claim that such authority doesn't belong to them, and honestly, I’d agree—if you could just tell me who that authority *does* belong to. Is it politicians? Psychiatrists? Wealthy merchants? Judges? Lawyers? Most of those people are capable of exerting a far more direct influence on my life than any religious institution ever could. Can you give me one practical example of what would actually be different in your life if this unearned clerical authority didn't exist?
"Quote:"Let’s be honest: a lot of "evil" has been done under the wing of religion. I put "evil" in quotes because, frankly, I’m not even sure what defines it anymore. One thing that really bugs me about organized religion is how easily people label things as "evil," as if they're just discussing onions and water. If we throw that word around so carelessly, what’s even the point of using it? That part isn't up for debate. But look at the reality today—even in highly religious nations, you see things happening that most of the West moved past centuries ago.
Angela Rogers2 Asks:
You take an average, mindless follower and plant a seed of opinion in their head. From there, they just run with it, fueled by that typical small-town, barroom logic. Before you know it, they’re raising their own kids under a heavy blanket of passive-aggression, disguised as God, karma, angels, or demons. To be honest, it disturbs me—at least to the extent that I still have to participate in this society. I won't even get started on the damage done by creationists, cults, or radical religious movements. Religion, quite frankly, does a massive amount of evil in this world.
If I were living in Baghdad, maybe all this would bother me. But since religion has zero impact on my day-to-day life, I honestly couldn't care less about the topic. What actually concerns me are situations like yours and Tanya's. It’s wild when someone gets so obsessed with religious debates that they fail to see how those institutions lost their grip on American society ages ago, leaving other structures to take the lead.
See, I’m not quite that much of an optimist. Based on certain things I've seen, I feel like if today's religious structures were to disappear, new mechanisms would simply emerge to keep the masses in line. Take popular Hollywood teen dramas, for example. If you watch all the trending shows, you quickly learn what you can and cannot say or even think; you learn which behaviors are acceptable and which will push you to the fringes of society. It's a very effective way of socializing people.
Anyway, sorry for the long-winded tangent. We totally veered off track. Let me try to get back to the point: no, I don't believe psychology can do all that much to help with men-and-women relationships. 😁 Then again, since I haven't tested that theory personally, who knows? I might be wrong.
Of course; I mentioned before that I don't want it to seem like I'm completely blacklisting entire groups. They all follow the same psychological laws, but the stimuli they receive vary based on the source and the original idea, so the resulting behavior will obviously differ.
lonegardener said:What would you actually do if your child became a sympathizer of a Nazi regime, for example? Don't get me wrong—I'm not trying to compare Jehovah's Witnesses to Nazis here. It's strictly about your own feelings and your stance. Could you truly love a son who was obsessed with Hitler? To make things even more interesting, let's say he isn't doing anything terrible. He isn't out there fighting people, stealing, or bullying anyone (and certainly nothing worse). He just hangs pictures of Hitler on his wall and talks about how he was a fantastic man with perfectly righteous views. 😬
How would you react?
I refuse to ever take that kind of stance—that "us versus them" mentality where one group is "elite" and the other is "scum." Honestly, that's probably because of the Nationalist Party. For me, it's not enough to just be part of an elite; I want the elite to be beneath me. 🤣
Can that also be applied to something like a Love Parade or massive pop/rock concerts? Like Woodstock, for example? Since we're discussing the psychology of large crowds and losing inhibitions...
I don't know a single person whose behavior is truly consistent. To be honest, I can't even say the same for myself. My own actions are incredibly inconsistent, and there are times when I feel completely irrational.
When it comes to intelligence and the inherent differences between people, you’re making a mistake if you think that observation is strictly objective. It’s an undeniable fact that some individuals are more intellectually advanced than others. But why dwell on that gap? Even if you consider yourself intellectually superior to your most primitive neighbor, the distance between you and him is still microscopic compared to the massive divide between him and the next smartest animal on Earth. So, why focus on our differences when we should be looking at our similarities?
Aren't you making the Same Type of mistake made by those who hate, despise, or look down on someone based solely on their nationality, religion, or skin color? You might argue that intelligence is far more significant than any of those factors—and you might even be right—but the logical analogy remains just as valid. To him, it matters more that one person lives on the left side of the Mississippi while the other lives on the right, rather than the simple fact that they are both human beings. To you, it matters more that one is an intellectual and the other is a bumpkin. 😬It’s not about that, really—it’s simply because they are both human beings.
"Quote:"
What kind of nonsense are you talking about? Here, take a look at this Wikipedia entry:
Narcissistic personality disorder is a complex issue that often gets misunderstood in casual conversation. While people frequently throw the term around to describe anyone acting selfishly, true NPD is a deep-seated psychological pattern involving a pervasive need for admiration and a profound lack of empathy. It’s more than just being "full of yourself"; it's a fundamental struggle with identity and how one relates to the world. Understanding the distinction between simple ego and a clinical disorder is crucial for anyone trying to navigate these difficult dynamics.
He carries himself with a massive sense of self-importance.
The second sign is often lost in a dream world, constantly chasing visions of limitless success, absolute power, or some kind of flawless, idealized love.
They truly believe they’re one of a kind—some sort of rare breed that only their own "special" circle could ever hope to understand.
4. demands far too much praise.
5. A deep sense of entitlement.
6. They'll step over anyone just to get what they want.
7. A total lack of empathy.
Number eight on the list is that tendency to live in a state of constant envy—or, just as frequently, the assumption that everyone else is looking at you with envy. It’s a bit of a cycle, isn't it? Whether they're coveting what someone else has or convinced that their own success has made them a target for jealousy, it creates this restless, defensive mindset.
9. Arrogance.
Antisocial personality disorder is a complex diagnosis that often gets misunderstood in casual conversation. It isn't just about being "rebellious" or having a bit of an attitude; it’s a deep-seated pattern of disregarding the rights of others and failing to conform to social norms. When we talk about this, we have to look past the Hollywood stereotypes and focus on the clinical reality of how these individuals interact with the world around them.
It’s basically when someone just refuses to play by the rules. They repeatedly engage in behavior that's clearly against the law, essentially showing a total disregard for social norms through actions that would get anyone else arrested on the spot.
Deceitfulness—whether it’s through constant lying, hiding behind fake identities, or running scams just to line your pockets or satisfy an ego—is a serious issue. It’s more than just being dishonest; it's about intentional manipulation for personal gain.
3. Impulsivity, or simply failing to look before you leap.
4. Irritability and aggression, specifically when it manifests through frequent physical altercations or assaults.
5. Reckless disregard for the safety of oneself or others.
It really comes down to a pattern of consistent irresponsibility—the kind that shows up when someone repeatedly fails to maintain a steady work ethic or simply refuses to honor their financial commitments.
7. A total lack of remorse. This shows up when someone is completely indifferent to the pain they've caused, or worse, they start making excuses for why hurting, mistreating, or stealing from someone else was actually justified.
Do you feel like none of this actually describes you? Personally, I can only see myself in maybe two or three points of the first one, and maybe three or four of the second. 🤷
"Quote:"
What exactly are they doing? And do you actually know how? Is this based on actual field research, or are you just taking someone else's word for it? Honestly, if you could point to specific sources to back up what you claim to know, that would be one thing. But I suspect you can’t quite do that—feel free to correct me if I'm wrong—you just "know," without being able to explain how. Here is my take: if I can't pinpoint exactly where a piece of information comes from, I don't consider it knowledge. Period. I need to know precisely what I am leaning on at any given moment. Who am I implicitly trusting just to keep this supposed "knowledge" standing? It matters, because in this day and age, it is incredibly easy to mistake a lie for the truth.
Furthermore, what kind of authority does the church actually hold? Personally, I don't see any at all. You claim that such authority doesn't belong to them, and honestly, I’d agree—if you could just tell me who that authority *does* belong to. Is it politicians? Psychiatrists? Wealthy merchants? Judges? Lawyers? Most of those people are capable of exerting a far more direct influence on my life than any religious institution ever could. Can you give me one practical example of what would actually be different in your life if this unearned clerical authority didn't exist?
"Quote:"Let’s be honest: a lot of "evil" has been done under the wing of religion. I put "evil" in quotes because, frankly, I’m not even sure what defines it anymore. One thing that really bugs me about organized religion is how easily people label things as "evil," as if they're just discussing onions and water. If we throw that word around so carelessly, what’s even the point of using it? That part isn't up for debate. But look at the reality today—even in highly religious nations, you see things happening that most of the West moved past centuries ago.
Angela Rogers2 Asks:
You take an average, mindless follower and plant a seed of opinion in their head. From there, they just run with it, fueled by that typical small-town, barroom logic. Before you know it, they’re raising their own kids under a heavy blanket of passive-aggression, disguised as God, karma, angels, or demons. To be honest, it disturbs me—at least to the extent that I still have to participate in this society. I won't even get started on the damage done by creationists, cults, or radical religious movements. Religion, quite frankly, does a massive amount of evil in this world.
If I were living in Baghdad, maybe all this would bother me. But since religion has zero impact on my day-to-day life, I honestly couldn't care less about the topic. What actually concerns me are situations like yours and Tanya's. It’s wild when someone gets so obsessed with religious debates that they fail to see how those institutions lost their grip on American society ages ago, leaving other structures to take the lead.
See, I’m not quite that much of an optimist. Based on certain things I've seen, I feel like if today's religious structures were to disappear, new mechanisms would simply emerge to keep the masses in line. Take popular Hollywood teen dramas, for example. If you watch all the trending shows, you quickly learn what you can and cannot say or even think; you learn which behaviors are acceptable and which will push you to the fringes of society. It's a very effective way of socializing people.
Anyway, sorry for the long-winded tangent. We totally veered off track. Let me try to get back to the point: no, I don't believe psychology can do all that much to help with men-and-women relationships. 😁 Then again, since I haven't tested that theory personally, who knows? I might be wrong.
I guess I do.
lonegardener said:What would you actually do if your child became a sympathizer of a Nazi regime, for example? Don't get me wrong—I'm not trying to compare Jehovah's Witnesses to Nazis here. It's strictly about your own feelings and your stance. Could you truly love a son who was obsessed with Hitler? To make things even more interesting, let's say he isn't doing anything terrible. He isn't out there fighting people, stealing, or bullying anyone (and certainly nothing worse). He just hangs pictures of Hitler on his wall and talks about how he was a fantastic man with perfectly righteous views. 😬
How would you react?
I refuse to ever take that kind of stance—that "us versus them" mentality where one group is "elite" and the other is "scum." Honestly, that's probably because of the Nationalist Party. For me, it's not enough to just be part of an elite; I want the elite to be beneath me. 🤣
Can that also be applied to something like a Love Parade or massive pop/rock concerts? Like Woodstock, for example? Since we're discussing the psychology of large crowds and losing inhibitions...
I don't know a single person whose behavior is truly consistent. To be honest, I can't even say the same for myself. My own actions are incredibly inconsistent, and there are times when I feel completely irrational.
When it comes to intelligence and the inherent differences between people, you’re making a mistake if you think that observation is strictly objective. It’s an undeniable fact that some individuals are more intellectually advanced than others. But why dwell on that gap? Even if you consider yourself intellectually superior to your most primitive neighbor, the distance between you and him is still microscopic compared to the massive divide between him and the next smartest animal on Earth. So, why focus on our differences when we should be looking at our similarities?
Aren't you making the Same Type of mistake made by those who hate, despise, or look down on someone based solely on their nationality, religion, or skin color? You might argue that intelligence is far more significant than any of those factors—and you might even be right—but the logical analogy remains just as valid. To him, it matters more that one person lives on the left side of the Mississippi while the other lives on the right, rather than the simple fact that they are both human beings. To you, it matters more that one is an intellectual and the other is a bumpkin. 😬It’s not about that, really—it’s simply because they are both human beings.
"Quote:"
What kind of nonsense are you talking about? Here, take a look at this Wikipedia entry:
Narcissistic personality disorder is a complex issue that often gets misunderstood in casual conversation. While people frequently throw the term around to describe anyone acting selfishly, true NPD is a deep-seated psychological pattern involving a pervasive need for admiration and a profound lack of empathy. It’s more than just being "full of yourself"; it's a fundamental struggle with identity and how one relates to the world. Understanding the distinction between simple ego and a clinical disorder is crucial for anyone trying to navigate these difficult dynamics.
He carries himself with a massive sense of self-importance.
The second sign is often lost in a dream world, constantly chasing visions of limitless success, absolute power, or some kind of flawless, idealized love.
They truly believe they’re one of a kind—some sort of rare breed that only their own "special" circle could ever hope to understand.
4. demands far too much praise.
5. A deep sense of entitlement.
6. They'll step over anyone just to get what they want.
7. A total lack of empathy.
Number eight on the list is that tendency to live in a state of constant envy—or, just as frequently, the assumption that everyone else is looking at you with envy. It’s a bit of a cycle, isn't it? Whether they're coveting what someone else has or convinced that their own success has made them a target for jealousy, it creates this restless, defensive mindset.
9. Arrogance.
Antisocial personality disorder is a complex diagnosis that often gets misunderstood in casual conversation. It isn't just about being "rebellious" or having a bit of an attitude; it’s a deep-seated pattern of disregarding the rights of others and failing to conform to social norms. When we talk about this, we have to look past the Hollywood stereotypes and focus on the clinical reality of how these individuals interact with the world around them.
It’s basically when someone just refuses to play by the rules. They repeatedly engage in behavior that's clearly against the law, essentially showing a total disregard for social norms through actions that would get anyone else arrested on the spot.
Deceitfulness—whether it’s through constant lying, hiding behind fake identities, or running scams just to line your pockets or satisfy an ego—is a serious issue. It’s more than just being dishonest; it's about intentional manipulation for personal gain.
3. Impulsivity, or simply failing to look before you leap.
4. Irritability and aggression, specifically when it manifests through frequent physical altercations or assaults.
5. Reckless disregard for the safety of oneself or others.
It really comes down to a pattern of consistent irresponsibility—the kind that shows up when someone repeatedly fails to maintain a steady work ethic or simply refuses to honor their financial commitments.
7. A total lack of remorse. This shows up when someone is completely indifferent to the pain they've caused, or worse, they start making excuses for why hurting, mistreating, or stealing from someone else was actually justified.
Do you feel like none of this actually describes you? Personally, I can only see myself in maybe two or three points of the first one, and maybe three or four of the second. 🤷
"Quote:"
What exactly are they doing? And do you actually know how? Is this based on actual field research, or are you just taking someone else's word for it? Honestly, if you could point to specific sources to back up what you claim to know, that would be one thing. But I suspect you can’t quite do that—feel free to correct me if I'm wrong—you just "know," without being able to explain how. Here is my take: if I can't pinpoint exactly where a piece of information comes from, I don't consider it knowledge. Period. I need to know precisely what I am leaning on at any given moment. Who am I implicitly trusting just to keep this supposed "knowledge" standing? It matters, because in this day and age, it is incredibly easy to mistake a lie for the truth.
Furthermore, what kind of authority does the church actually hold? Personally, I don't see any at all. You claim that such authority doesn't belong to them, and honestly, I’d agree—if you could just tell me who that authority *does* belong to. Is it politicians? Psychiatrists? Wealthy merchants? Judges? Lawyers? Most of those people are capable of exerting a far more direct influence on my life than any religious institution ever could. Can you give me one practical example of what would actually be different in your life if this unearned clerical authority didn't exist?
"Quote:"Let’s be honest: a lot of "evil" has been done under the wing of religion. I put "evil" in quotes because, frankly, I’m not even sure what defines it anymore. One thing that really bugs me about organized religion is how easily people label things as "evil," as if they're just discussing onions and water. If we throw that word around so carelessly, what’s even the point of using it? That part isn't up for debate. But look at the reality today—even in highly religious nations, you see things happening that most of the West moved past centuries ago.
Angela Rogers2 Asks:
You take an average, mindless follower and plant a seed of opinion in their head. From there, they just run with it, fueled by that typical small-town, barroom logic. Before you know it, they’re raising their own kids under a heavy blanket of passive-aggression, disguised as God, karma, angels, or demons. To be honest, it disturbs me—at least to the extent that I still have to participate in this society. I won't even get started on the damage done by creationists, cults, or radical religious movements. Religion, quite frankly, does a massive amount of evil in this world.
If I were living in Baghdad, maybe all this would bother me. But since religion has zero impact on my day-to-day life, I honestly couldn't care less about the topic. What actually concerns me are situations like yours and Tanya's. It’s wild when someone gets so obsessed with religious debates that they fail to see how those institutions lost their grip on American society ages ago, leaving other structures to take the lead.
See, I’m not quite that much of an optimist. Based on certain things I've seen, I feel like if today's religious structures were to disappear, new mechanisms would simply emerge to keep the masses in line. Take popular Hollywood teen dramas, for example. If you watch all the trending shows, you quickly learn what you can and cannot say or even think; you learn which behaviors are acceptable and which will push you to the fringes of society. It's a very effective way of socializing people.
Anyway, sorry for the long-winded tangent. We totally veered off track. Let me try to get back to the point: no, I don't believe psychology can do all that much to help with men-and-women relationships. 😁 Then again, since I haven't tested that theory personally, who knows? I might be wrong.
Maybe you're just immature.
lonegardener said:What would you actually do if your child became a sympathizer of a Nazi regime, for example? Don't get me wrong—I'm not trying to compare Jehovah's Witnesses to Nazis here. It's strictly about your own feelings and your stance. Could you truly love a son who was obsessed with Hitler? To make things even more interesting, let's say he isn't doing anything terrible. He isn't out there fighting people, stealing, or bullying anyone (and certainly nothing worse). He just hangs pictures of Hitler on his wall and talks about how he was a fantastic man with perfectly righteous views. 😬
How would you react?
I refuse to ever take that kind of stance—that "us versus them" mentality where one group is "elite" and the other is "scum." Honestly, that's probably because of the Nationalist Party. For me, it's not enough to just be part of an elite; I want the elite to be beneath me. 🤣
Can that also be applied to something like a Love Parade or massive pop/rock concerts? Like Woodstock, for example? Since we're discussing the psychology of large crowds and losing inhibitions...
I don't know a single person whose behavior is truly consistent. To be honest, I can't even say the same for myself. My own actions are incredibly inconsistent, and there are times when I feel completely irrational.
When it comes to intelligence and the inherent differences between people, you’re making a mistake if you think that observation is strictly objective. It’s an undeniable fact that some individuals are more intellectually advanced than others. But why dwell on that gap? Even if you consider yourself intellectually superior to your most primitive neighbor, the distance between you and him is still microscopic compared to the massive divide between him and the next smartest animal on Earth. So, why focus on our differences when we should be looking at our similarities?
Aren't you making the Same Type of mistake made by those who hate, despise, or look down on someone based solely on their nationality, religion, or skin color? You might argue that intelligence is far more significant than any of those factors—and you might even be right—but the logical analogy remains just as valid. To him, it matters more that one person lives on the left side of the Mississippi while the other lives on the right, rather than the simple fact that they are both human beings. To you, it matters more that one is an intellectual and the other is a bumpkin. 😬It’s not about that, really—it’s simply because they are both human beings.
"Quote:"
What kind of nonsense are you talking about? Here, take a look at this Wikipedia entry:
Narcissistic personality disorder is a complex issue that often gets misunderstood in casual conversation. While people frequently throw the term around to describe anyone acting selfishly, true NPD is a deep-seated psychological pattern involving a pervasive need for admiration and a profound lack of empathy. It’s more than just being "full of yourself"; it's a fundamental struggle with identity and how one relates to the world. Understanding the distinction between simple ego and a clinical disorder is crucial for anyone trying to navigate these difficult dynamics.
He carries himself with a massive sense of self-importance.
The second sign is often lost in a dream world, constantly chasing visions of limitless success, absolute power, or some kind of flawless, idealized love.
They truly believe they’re one of a kind—some sort of rare breed that only their own "special" circle could ever hope to understand.
4. demands far too much praise.
5. A deep sense of entitlement.
6. They'll step over anyone just to get what they want.
7. A total lack of empathy.
Number eight on the list is that tendency to live in a state of constant envy—or, just as frequently, the assumption that everyone else is looking at you with envy. It’s a bit of a cycle, isn't it? Whether they're coveting what someone else has or convinced that their own success has made them a target for jealousy, it creates this restless, defensive mindset.
9. Arrogance.
Antisocial personality disorder is a complex diagnosis that often gets misunderstood in casual conversation. It isn't just about being "rebellious" or having a bit of an attitude; it’s a deep-seated pattern of disregarding the rights of others and failing to conform to social norms. When we talk about this, we have to look past the Hollywood stereotypes and focus on the clinical reality of how these individuals interact with the world around them.
It’s basically when someone just refuses to play by the rules. They repeatedly engage in behavior that's clearly against the law, essentially showing a total disregard for social norms through actions that would get anyone else arrested on the spot.
Deceitfulness—whether it’s through constant lying, hiding behind fake identities, or running scams just to line your pockets or satisfy an ego—is a serious issue. It’s more than just being dishonest; it's about intentional manipulation for personal gain.
3. Impulsivity, or simply failing to look before you leap.
4. Irritability and aggression, specifically when it manifests through frequent physical altercations or assaults.
5. Reckless disregard for the safety of oneself or others.
It really comes down to a pattern of consistent irresponsibility—the kind that shows up when someone repeatedly fails to maintain a steady work ethic or simply refuses to honor their financial commitments.
7. A total lack of remorse. This shows up when someone is completely indifferent to the pain they've caused, or worse, they start making excuses for why hurting, mistreating, or stealing from someone else was actually justified.
Do you feel like none of this actually describes you? Personally, I can only see myself in maybe two or three points of the first one, and maybe three or four of the second. 🤷
"Quote:"
What exactly are they doing? And do you actually know how? Is this based on actual field research, or are you just taking someone else's word for it? Honestly, if you could point to specific sources to back up what you claim to know, that would be one thing. But I suspect you can’t quite do that—feel free to correct me if I'm wrong—you just "know," without being able to explain how. Here is my take: if I can't pinpoint exactly where a piece of information comes from, I don't consider it knowledge. Period. I need to know precisely what I am leaning on at any given moment. Who am I implicitly trusting just to keep this supposed "knowledge" standing? It matters, because in this day and age, it is incredibly easy to mistake a lie for the truth.
Furthermore, what kind of authority does the church actually hold? Personally, I don't see any at all. You claim that such authority doesn't belong to them, and honestly, I’d agree—if you could just tell me who that authority *does* belong to. Is it politicians? Psychiatrists? Wealthy merchants? Judges? Lawyers? Most of those people are capable of exerting a far more direct influence on my life than any religious institution ever could. Can you give me one practical example of what would actually be different in your life if this unearned clerical authority didn't exist?
"Quote:"Let’s be honest: a lot of "evil" has been done under the wing of religion. I put "evil" in quotes because, frankly, I’m not even sure what defines it anymore. One thing that really bugs me about organized religion is how easily people label things as "evil," as if they're just discussing onions and water. If we throw that word around so carelessly, what’s even the point of using it? That part isn't up for debate. But look at the reality today—even in highly religious nations, you see things happening that most of the West moved past centuries ago.
Angela Rogers2 Asks:
You take an average, mindless follower and plant a seed of opinion in their head. From there, they just run with it, fueled by that typical small-town, barroom logic. Before you know it, they’re raising their own kids under a heavy blanket of passive-aggression, disguised as God, karma, angels, or demons. To be honest, it disturbs me—at least to the extent that I still have to participate in this society. I won't even get started on the damage done by creationists, cults, or radical religious movements. Religion, quite frankly, does a massive amount of evil in this world.
If I were living in Baghdad, maybe all this would bother me. But since religion has zero impact on my day-to-day life, I honestly couldn't care less about the topic. What actually concerns me are situations like yours and Tanya's. It’s wild when someone gets so obsessed with religious debates that they fail to see how those institutions lost their grip on American society ages ago, leaving other structures to take the lead.
See, I’m not quite that much of an optimist. Based on certain things I've seen, I feel like if today's religious structures were to disappear, new mechanisms would simply emerge to keep the masses in line. Take popular Hollywood teen dramas, for example. If you watch all the trending shows, you quickly learn what you can and cannot say or even think; you learn which behaviors are acceptable and which will push you to the fringes of society. It's a very effective way of socializing people.
Anyway, sorry for the long-winded tangent. We totally veered off track. Let me try to get back to the point: no, I don't believe psychology can do all that much to help with men-and-women relationships. 😁 Then again, since I haven't tested that theory personally, who knows? I might be wrong.
I think you misunderstood me, and I’m saying this for the eight-hundredth time. Actually, what's worse is that we seem to agree on this way of thinking. I don't care if you have a PhD or some degree verifying your status; if you're shady, dishonest, or just a jerk, I'm inclined to despise you as a person, regardless of how famous an expert you are in your field. On the flip side, you have people who have zero interest in reading books and prefer working in the fields, yet they've mastered basic principles—they're honest, good people, fair, and stick to their word. That counts for something, regardless of whether they're the next Einstein (to caricature). Actions reveal the truth; basically, you are defined objectively by how you live.
lonegardener said:What would you actually do if your child became a sympathizer of a Nazi regime, for example? Don't get me wrong—I'm not trying to compare Jehovah's Witnesses to Nazis here. It's strictly about your own feelings and your stance. Could you truly love a son who was obsessed with Hitler? To make things even more interesting, let's say he isn't doing anything terrible. He isn't out there fighting people, stealing, or bullying anyone (and certainly nothing worse). He just hangs pictures of Hitler on his wall and talks about how he was a fantastic man with perfectly righteous views. 😬
How would you react?
I refuse to ever take that kind of stance—that "us versus them" mentality where one group is "elite" and the other is "scum." Honestly, that's probably because of the Nationalist Party. For me, it's not enough to just be part of an elite; I want the elite to be beneath me. 🤣
Can that also be applied to something like a Love Parade or massive pop/rock concerts? Like Woodstock, for example? Since we're discussing the psychology of large crowds and losing inhibitions...
I don't know a single person whose behavior is truly consistent. To be honest, I can't even say the same for myself. My own actions are incredibly inconsistent, and there are times when I feel completely irrational.
When it comes to intelligence and the inherent differences between people, you’re making a mistake if you think that observation is strictly objective. It’s an undeniable fact that some individuals are more intellectually advanced than others. But why dwell on that gap? Even if you consider yourself intellectually superior to your most primitive neighbor, the distance between you and him is still microscopic compared to the massive divide between him and the next smartest animal on Earth. So, why focus on our differences when we should be looking at our similarities?
Aren't you making the Same Type of mistake made by those who hate, despise, or look down on someone based solely on their nationality, religion, or skin color? You might argue that intelligence is far more significant than any of those factors—and you might even be right—but the logical analogy remains just as valid. To him, it matters more that one person lives on the left side of the Mississippi while the other lives on the right, rather than the simple fact that they are both human beings. To you, it matters more that one is an intellectual and the other is a bumpkin. 😬It’s not about that, really—it’s simply because they are both human beings.
"Quote:"
What kind of nonsense are you talking about? Here, take a look at this Wikipedia entry:
Narcissistic personality disorder is a complex issue that often gets misunderstood in casual conversation. While people frequently throw the term around to describe anyone acting selfishly, true NPD is a deep-seated psychological pattern involving a pervasive need for admiration and a profound lack of empathy. It’s more than just being "full of yourself"; it's a fundamental struggle with identity and how one relates to the world. Understanding the distinction between simple ego and a clinical disorder is crucial for anyone trying to navigate these difficult dynamics.
He carries himself with a massive sense of self-importance.
The second sign is often lost in a dream world, constantly chasing visions of limitless success, absolute power, or some kind of flawless, idealized love.
They truly believe they’re one of a kind—some sort of rare breed that only their own "special" circle could ever hope to understand.
4. demands far too much praise.
5. A deep sense of entitlement.
6. They'll step over anyone just to get what they want.
7. A total lack of empathy.
Number eight on the list is that tendency to live in a state of constant envy—or, just as frequently, the assumption that everyone else is looking at you with envy. It’s a bit of a cycle, isn't it? Whether they're coveting what someone else has or convinced that their own success has made them a target for jealousy, it creates this restless, defensive mindset.
9. Arrogance.
Antisocial personality disorder is a complex diagnosis that often gets misunderstood in casual conversation. It isn't just about being "rebellious" or having a bit of an attitude; it’s a deep-seated pattern of disregarding the rights of others and failing to conform to social norms. When we talk about this, we have to look past the Hollywood stereotypes and focus on the clinical reality of how these individuals interact with the world around them.
It’s basically when someone just refuses to play by the rules. They repeatedly engage in behavior that's clearly against the law, essentially showing a total disregard for social norms through actions that would get anyone else arrested on the spot.
Deceitfulness—whether it’s through constant lying, hiding behind fake identities, or running scams just to line your pockets or satisfy an ego—is a serious issue. It’s more than just being dishonest; it's about intentional manipulation for personal gain.
3. Impulsivity, or simply failing to look before you leap.
4. Irritability and aggression, specifically when it manifests through frequent physical altercations or assaults.
5. Reckless disregard for the safety of oneself or others.
It really comes down to a pattern of consistent irresponsibility—the kind that shows up when someone repeatedly fails to maintain a steady work ethic or simply refuses to honor their financial commitments.
7. A total lack of remorse. This shows up when someone is completely indifferent to the pain they've caused, or worse, they start making excuses for why hurting, mistreating, or stealing from someone else was actually justified.
Do you feel like none of this actually describes you? Personally, I can only see myself in maybe two or three points of the first one, and maybe three or four of the second. 🤷
"Quote:"
What exactly are they doing? And do you actually know how? Is this based on actual field research, or are you just taking someone else's word for it? Honestly, if you could point to specific sources to back up what you claim to know, that would be one thing. But I suspect you can’t quite do that—feel free to correct me if I'm wrong—you just "know," without being able to explain how. Here is my take: if I can't pinpoint exactly where a piece of information comes from, I don't consider it knowledge. Period. I need to know precisely what I am leaning on at any given moment. Who am I implicitly trusting just to keep this supposed "knowledge" standing? It matters, because in this day and age, it is incredibly easy to mistake a lie for the truth.
Furthermore, what kind of authority does the church actually hold? Personally, I don't see any at all. You claim that such authority doesn't belong to them, and honestly, I’d agree—if you could just tell me who that authority *does* belong to. Is it politicians? Psychiatrists? Wealthy merchants? Judges? Lawyers? Most of those people are capable of exerting a far more direct influence on my life than any religious institution ever could. Can you give me one practical example of what would actually be different in your life if this unearned clerical authority didn't exist?
"Quote:"Let’s be honest: a lot of "evil" has been done under the wing of religion. I put "evil" in quotes because, frankly, I’m not even sure what defines it anymore. One thing that really bugs me about organized religion is how easily people label things as "evil," as if they're just discussing onions and water. If we throw that word around so carelessly, what’s even the point of using it? That part isn't up for debate. But look at the reality today—even in highly religious nations, you see things happening that most of the West moved past centuries ago.
Angela Rogers2 Asks:
You take an average, mindless follower and plant a seed of opinion in their head. From there, they just run with it, fueled by that typical small-town, barroom logic. Before you know it, they’re raising their own kids under a heavy blanket of passive-aggression, disguised as God, karma, angels, or demons. To be honest, it disturbs me—at least to the extent that I still have to participate in this society. I won't even get started on the damage done by creationists, cults, or radical religious movements. Religion, quite frankly, does a massive amount of evil in this world.
If I were living in Baghdad, maybe all this would bother me. But since religion has zero impact on my day-to-day life, I honestly couldn't care less about the topic. What actually concerns me are situations like yours and Tanya's. It’s wild when someone gets so obsessed with religious debates that they fail to see how those institutions lost their grip on American society ages ago, leaving other structures to take the lead.
See, I’m not quite that much of an optimist. Based on certain things I've seen, I feel like if today's religious structures were to disappear, new mechanisms would simply emerge to keep the masses in line. Take popular Hollywood teen dramas, for example. If you watch all the trending shows, you quickly learn what you can and cannot say or even think; you learn which behaviors are acceptable and which will push you to the fringes of society. It's a very effective way of socializing people.
Anyway, sorry for the long-winded tangent. We totally veered off track. Let me try to get back to the point: no, I don't believe psychology can do all that much to help with men-and-women relationships. 😁 Then again, since I haven't tested that theory personally, who knows? I might be wrong.
Well, if that's how you feel. I'm just trying to explain that it doesn't work like that—you read five sentences, convince yourself you fit the description, and then get all worked up thinking, "Oh, I have this specific disorder." It's probably just nonsense.
lonegardener said:What would you actually do if your child became a sympathizer of a Nazi regime, for example? Don't get me wrong—I'm not trying to compare Jehovah's Witnesses to Nazis here. It's strictly about your own feelings and your stance. Could you truly love a son who was obsessed with Hitler? To make things even more interesting, let's say he isn't doing anything terrible. He isn't out there fighting people, stealing, or bullying anyone (and certainly nothing worse). He just hangs pictures of Hitler on his wall and talks about how he was a fantastic man with perfectly righteous views. 😬
How would you react?
I refuse to ever take that kind of stance—that "us versus them" mentality where one group is "elite" and the other is "scum." Honestly, that's probably because of the Nationalist Party. For me, it's not enough to just be part of an elite; I want the elite to be beneath me. 🤣
Can that also be applied to something like a Love Parade or massive pop/rock concerts? Like Woodstock, for example? Since we're discussing the psychology of large crowds and losing inhibitions...
I don't know a single person whose behavior is truly consistent. To be honest, I can't even say the same for myself. My own actions are incredibly inconsistent, and there are times when I feel completely irrational.
When it comes to intelligence and the inherent differences between people, you’re making a mistake if you think that observation is strictly objective. It’s an undeniable fact that some individuals are more intellectually advanced than others. But why dwell on that gap? Even if you consider yourself intellectually superior to your most primitive neighbor, the distance between you and him is still microscopic compared to the massive divide between him and the next smartest animal on Earth. So, why focus on our differences when we should be looking at our similarities?
Aren't you making the Same Type of mistake made by those who hate, despise, or look down on someone based solely on their nationality, religion, or skin color? You might argue that intelligence is far more significant than any of those factors—and you might even be right—but the logical analogy remains just as valid. To him, it matters more that one person lives on the left side of the Mississippi while the other lives on the right, rather than the simple fact that they are both human beings. To you, it matters more that one is an intellectual and the other is a bumpkin. 😬It’s not about that, really—it’s simply because they are both human beings.
"Quote:"
What kind of nonsense are you talking about? Here, take a look at this Wikipedia entry:
Narcissistic personality disorder is a complex issue that often gets misunderstood in casual conversation. While people frequently throw the term around to describe anyone acting selfishly, true NPD is a deep-seated psychological pattern involving a pervasive need for admiration and a profound lack of empathy. It’s more than just being "full of yourself"; it's a fundamental struggle with identity and how one relates to the world. Understanding the distinction between simple ego and a clinical disorder is crucial for anyone trying to navigate these difficult dynamics.
He carries himself with a massive sense of self-importance.
The second sign is often lost in a dream world, constantly chasing visions of limitless success, absolute power, or some kind of flawless, idealized love.
They truly believe they’re one of a kind—some sort of rare breed that only their own "special" circle could ever hope to understand.
4. demands far too much praise.
5. A deep sense of entitlement.
6. They'll step over anyone just to get what they want.
7. A total lack of empathy.
Number eight on the list is that tendency to live in a state of constant envy—or, just as frequently, the assumption that everyone else is looking at you with envy. It’s a bit of a cycle, isn't it? Whether they're coveting what someone else has or convinced that their own success has made them a target for jealousy, it creates this restless, defensive mindset.
9. Arrogance.
Antisocial personality disorder is a complex diagnosis that often gets misunderstood in casual conversation. It isn't just about being "rebellious" or having a bit of an attitude; it’s a deep-seated pattern of disregarding the rights of others and failing to conform to social norms. When we talk about this, we have to look past the Hollywood stereotypes and focus on the clinical reality of how these individuals interact with the world around them.
It’s basically when someone just refuses to play by the rules. They repeatedly engage in behavior that's clearly against the law, essentially showing a total disregard for social norms through actions that would get anyone else arrested on the spot.
Deceitfulness—whether it’s through constant lying, hiding behind fake identities, or running scams just to line your pockets or satisfy an ego—is a serious issue. It’s more than just being dishonest; it's about intentional manipulation for personal gain.
3. Impulsivity, or simply failing to look before you leap.
4. Irritability and aggression, specifically when it manifests through frequent physical altercations or assaults.
5. Reckless disregard for the safety of oneself or others.
It really comes down to a pattern of consistent irresponsibility—the kind that shows up when someone repeatedly fails to maintain a steady work ethic or simply refuses to honor their financial commitments.
7. A total lack of remorse. This shows up when someone is completely indifferent to the pain they've caused, or worse, they start making excuses for why hurting, mistreating, or stealing from someone else was actually justified.
Do you feel like none of this actually describes you? Personally, I can only see myself in maybe two or three points of the first one, and maybe three or four of the second. 🤷
"Quote:"
What exactly are they doing? And do you actually know how? Is this based on actual field research, or are you just taking someone else's word for it? Honestly, if you could point to specific sources to back up what you claim to know, that would be one thing. But I suspect you can’t quite do that—feel free to correct me if I'm wrong—you just "know," without being able to explain how. Here is my take: if I can't pinpoint exactly where a piece of information comes from, I don't consider it knowledge. Period. I need to know precisely what I am leaning on at any given moment. Who am I implicitly trusting just to keep this supposed "knowledge" standing? It matters, because in this day and age, it is incredibly easy to mistake a lie for the truth.
Furthermore, what kind of authority does the church actually hold? Personally, I don't see any at all. You claim that such authority doesn't belong to them, and honestly, I’d agree—if you could just tell me who that authority *does* belong to. Is it politicians? Psychiatrists? Wealthy merchants? Judges? Lawyers? Most of those people are capable of exerting a far more direct influence on my life than any religious institution ever could. Can you give me one practical example of what would actually be different in your life if this unearned clerical authority didn't exist?
"Quote:"Let’s be honest: a lot of "evil" has been done under the wing of religion. I put "evil" in quotes because, frankly, I’m not even sure what defines it anymore. One thing that really bugs me about organized religion is how easily people label things as "evil," as if they're just discussing onions and water. If we throw that word around so carelessly, what’s even the point of using it? That part isn't up for debate. But look at the reality today—even in highly religious nations, you see things happening that most of the West moved past centuries ago.
Angela Rogers2 Asks:
You take an average, mindless follower and plant a seed of opinion in their head. From there, they just run with it, fueled by that typical small-town, barroom logic. Before you know it, they’re raising their own kids under a heavy blanket of passive-aggression, disguised as God, karma, angels, or demons. To be honest, it disturbs me—at least to the extent that I still have to participate in this society. I won't even get started on the damage done by creationists, cults, or radical religious movements. Religion, quite frankly, does a massive amount of evil in this world.
If I were living in Baghdad, maybe all this would bother me. But since religion has zero impact on my day-to-day life, I honestly couldn't care less about the topic. What actually concerns me are situations like yours and Tanya's. It’s wild when someone gets so obsessed with religious debates that they fail to see how those institutions lost their grip on American society ages ago, leaving other structures to take the lead.
See, I’m not quite that much of an optimist. Based on certain things I've seen, I feel like if today's religious structures were to disappear, new mechanisms would simply emerge to keep the masses in line. Take popular Hollywood teen dramas, for example. If you watch all the trending shows, you quickly learn what you can and cannot say or even think; you learn which behaviors are acceptable and which will push you to the fringes of society. It's a very effective way of socializing people.
Anyway, sorry for the long-winded tangent. We totally veered off track. Let me try to get back to the point: no, I don't believe psychology can do all that much to help with men-and-women relationships. 😁 Then again, since I haven't tested that theory personally, who knows? I might be wrong.
Just one question, do you even pay taxes to the government or...?
lonegardener said:What would you actually do if your child became a sympathizer of a Nazi regime, for example? Don't get me wrong—I'm not trying to compare Jehovah's Witnesses to Nazis here. It's strictly about your own feelings and your stance. Could you truly love a son who was obsessed with Hitler? To make things even more interesting, let's say he isn't doing anything terrible. He isn't out there fighting people, stealing, or bullying anyone (and certainly nothing worse). He just hangs pictures of Hitler on his wall and talks about how he was a fantastic man with perfectly righteous views. 😬
How would you react?
I refuse to ever take that kind of stance—that "us versus them" mentality where one group is "elite" and the other is "scum." Honestly, that's probably because of the Nationalist Party. For me, it's not enough to just be part of an elite; I want the elite to be beneath me. 🤣
Can that also be applied to something like a Love Parade or massive pop/rock concerts? Like Woodstock, for example? Since we're discussing the psychology of large crowds and losing inhibitions...
I don't know a single person whose behavior is truly consistent. To be honest, I can't even say the same for myself. My own actions are incredibly inconsistent, and there are times when I feel completely irrational.
When it comes to intelligence and the inherent differences between people, you’re making a mistake if you think that observation is strictly objective. It’s an undeniable fact that some individuals are more intellectually advanced than others. But why dwell on that gap? Even if you consider yourself intellectually superior to your most primitive neighbor, the distance between you and him is still microscopic compared to the massive divide between him and the next smartest animal on Earth. So, why focus on our differences when we should be looking at our similarities?
Aren't you making the Same Type of mistake made by those who hate, despise, or look down on someone based solely on their nationality, religion, or skin color? You might argue that intelligence is far more significant than any of those factors—and you might even be right—but the logical analogy remains just as valid. To him, it matters more that one person lives on the left side of the Mississippi while the other lives on the right, rather than the simple fact that they are both human beings. To you, it matters more that one is an intellectual and the other is a bumpkin. 😬It’s not about that, really—it’s simply because they are both human beings.
"Quote:"
What kind of nonsense are you talking about? Here, take a look at this Wikipedia entry:
Narcissistic personality disorder is a complex issue that often gets misunderstood in casual conversation. While people frequently throw the term around to describe anyone acting selfishly, true NPD is a deep-seated psychological pattern involving a pervasive need for admiration and a profound lack of empathy. It’s more than just being "full of yourself"; it's a fundamental struggle with identity and how one relates to the world. Understanding the distinction between simple ego and a clinical disorder is crucial for anyone trying to navigate these difficult dynamics.
He carries himself with a massive sense of self-importance.
The second sign is often lost in a dream world, constantly chasing visions of limitless success, absolute power, or some kind of flawless, idealized love.
They truly believe they’re one of a kind—some sort of rare breed that only their own "special" circle could ever hope to understand.
4. demands far too much praise.
5. A deep sense of entitlement.
6. They'll step over anyone just to get what they want.
7. A total lack of empathy.
Number eight on the list is that tendency to live in a state of constant envy—or, just as frequently, the assumption that everyone else is looking at you with envy. It’s a bit of a cycle, isn't it? Whether they're coveting what someone else has or convinced that their own success has made them a target for jealousy, it creates this restless, defensive mindset.
9. Arrogance.
Antisocial personality disorder is a complex diagnosis that often gets misunderstood in casual conversation. It isn't just about being "rebellious" or having a bit of an attitude; it’s a deep-seated pattern of disregarding the rights of others and failing to conform to social norms. When we talk about this, we have to look past the Hollywood stereotypes and focus on the clinical reality of how these individuals interact with the world around them.
It’s basically when someone just refuses to play by the rules. They repeatedly engage in behavior that's clearly against the law, essentially showing a total disregard for social norms through actions that would get anyone else arrested on the spot.
Deceitfulness—whether it’s through constant lying, hiding behind fake identities, or running scams just to line your pockets or satisfy an ego—is a serious issue. It’s more than just being dishonest; it's about intentional manipulation for personal gain.
3. Impulsivity, or simply failing to look before you leap.
4. Irritability and aggression, specifically when it manifests through frequent physical altercations or assaults.
5. Reckless disregard for the safety of oneself or others.
It really comes down to a pattern of consistent irresponsibility—the kind that shows up when someone repeatedly fails to maintain a steady work ethic or simply refuses to honor their financial commitments.
7. A total lack of remorse. This shows up when someone is completely indifferent to the pain they've caused, or worse, they start making excuses for why hurting, mistreating, or stealing from someone else was actually justified.
Do you feel like none of this actually describes you? Personally, I can only see myself in maybe two or three points of the first one, and maybe three or four of the second. 🤷
"Quote:"
What exactly are they doing? And do you actually know how? Is this based on actual field research, or are you just taking someone else's word for it? Honestly, if you could point to specific sources to back up what you claim to know, that would be one thing. But I suspect you can’t quite do that—feel free to correct me if I'm wrong—you just "know," without being able to explain how. Here is my take: if I can't pinpoint exactly where a piece of information comes from, I don't consider it knowledge. Period. I need to know precisely what I am leaning on at any given moment. Who am I implicitly trusting just to keep this supposed "knowledge" standing? It matters, because in this day and age, it is incredibly easy to mistake a lie for the truth.
Furthermore, what kind of authority does the church actually hold? Personally, I don't see any at all. You claim that such authority doesn't belong to them, and honestly, I’d agree—if you could just tell me who that authority *does* belong to. Is it politicians? Psychiatrists? Wealthy merchants? Judges? Lawyers? Most of those people are capable of exerting a far more direct influence on my life than any religious institution ever could. Can you give me one practical example of what would actually be different in your life if this unearned clerical authority didn't exist?
"Quote:"Let’s be honest: a lot of "evil" has been done under the wing of religion. I put "evil" in quotes because, frankly, I’m not even sure what defines it anymore. One thing that really bugs me about organized religion is how easily people label things as "evil," as if they're just discussing onions and water. If we throw that word around so carelessly, what’s even the point of using it? That part isn't up for debate. But look at the reality today—even in highly religious nations, you see things happening that most of the West moved past centuries ago.
Angela Rogers2 Asks:
You take an average, mindless follower and plant a seed of opinion in their head. From there, they just run with it, fueled by that typical small-town, barroom logic. Before you know it, they’re raising their own kids under a heavy blanket of passive-aggression, disguised as God, karma, angels, or demons. To be honest, it disturbs me—at least to the extent that I still have to participate in this society. I won't even get started on the damage done by creationists, cults, or radical religious movements. Religion, quite frankly, does a massive amount of evil in this world.
If I were living in Baghdad, maybe all this would bother me. But since religion has zero impact on my day-to-day life, I honestly couldn't care less about the topic. What actually concerns me are situations like yours and Tanya's. It’s wild when someone gets so obsessed with religious debates that they fail to see how those institutions lost their grip on American society ages ago, leaving other structures to take the lead.
See, I’m not quite that much of an optimist. Based on certain things I've seen, I feel like if today's religious structures were to disappear, new mechanisms would simply emerge to keep the masses in line. Take popular Hollywood teen dramas, for example. If you watch all the trending shows, you quickly learn what you can and cannot say or even think; you learn which behaviors are acceptable and which will push you to the fringes of society. It's a very effective way of socializing people.
Anyway, sorry for the long-winded tangent. We totally veered off track. Let me try to get back to the point: no, I don't believe psychology can do all that much to help with men-and-women relationships. 😁 Then again, since I haven't tested that theory personally, who knows? I might be wrong.
hm, yeah. I guess a qualitative assessment of good versus bad (evil) has to exist if society is actually going to function. But then we’d have to discuss what kind of society we're talking about and the specific mechanisms and principles driving it. If you think religious influence on people is tiny or insignificant, okay. You might be right regarding the raw data they provide, since today's society is essentially an information-based one. They rely on a hundred different recycled dogmas, but the public—which is just a collection of individuals, and those individuals were raised under the passive aggression of a god—is a reflection of the individual. So, in my conclusion, damn it, the public is under the influence of religion.
Because look, take communism for example—I'm using it as a case study because its core idea was strong social equality, meaning social rights should ultimately be equal. It failed catastrophically here because what it was aiming for didn't align with the fundamental spirit of the people. Religion is baked into the spirit of this nation, and it works.
lonegardener said:What would you actually do if your child became a sympathizer of a Nazi regime, for example? Don't get me wrong—I'm not trying to compare Jehovah's Witnesses to Nazis here. It's strictly about your own feelings and your stance. Could you truly love a son who was obsessed with Hitler? To make things even more interesting, let's say he isn't doing anything terrible. He isn't out there fighting people, stealing, or bullying anyone (and certainly nothing worse). He just hangs pictures of Hitler on his wall and talks about how he was a fantastic man with perfectly righteous views. 😬
How would you react?
I refuse to ever take that kind of stance—that "us versus them" mentality where one group is "elite" and the other is "scum." Honestly, that's probably because of the Nationalist Party. For me, it's not enough to just be part of an elite; I want the elite to be beneath me. 🤣
Can that also be applied to something like a Love Parade or massive pop/rock concerts? Like Woodstock, for example? Since we're discussing the psychology of large crowds and losing inhibitions...
I don't know a single person whose behavior is truly consistent. To be honest, I can't even say the same for myself. My own actions are incredibly inconsistent, and there are times when I feel completely irrational.
When it comes to intelligence and the inherent differences between people, you’re making a mistake if you think that observation is strictly objective. It’s an undeniable fact that some individuals are more intellectually advanced than others. But why dwell on that gap? Even if you consider yourself intellectually superior to your most primitive neighbor, the distance between you and him is still microscopic compared to the massive divide between him and the next smartest animal on Earth. So, why focus on our differences when we should be looking at our similarities?
Aren't you making the Same Type of mistake made by those who hate, despise, or look down on someone based solely on their nationality, religion, or skin color? You might argue that intelligence is far more significant than any of those factors—and you might even be right—but the logical analogy remains just as valid. To him, it matters more that one person lives on the left side of the Mississippi while the other lives on the right, rather than the simple fact that they are both human beings. To you, it matters more that one is an intellectual and the other is a bumpkin. 😬It’s not about that, really—it’s simply because they are both human beings.
"Quote:"
What kind of nonsense are you talking about? Here, take a look at this Wikipedia entry:
Narcissistic personality disorder is a complex issue that often gets misunderstood in casual conversation. While people frequently throw the term around to describe anyone acting selfishly, true NPD is a deep-seated psychological pattern involving a pervasive need for admiration and a profound lack of empathy. It’s more than just being "full of yourself"; it's a fundamental struggle with identity and how one relates to the world. Understanding the distinction between simple ego and a clinical disorder is crucial for anyone trying to navigate these difficult dynamics.
He carries himself with a massive sense of self-importance.
The second sign is often lost in a dream world, constantly chasing visions of limitless success, absolute power, or some kind of flawless, idealized love.
They truly believe they’re one of a kind—some sort of rare breed that only their own "special" circle could ever hope to understand.
4. demands far too much praise.
5. A deep sense of entitlement.
6. They'll step over anyone just to get what they want.
7. A total lack of empathy.
Number eight on the list is that tendency to live in a state of constant envy—or, just as frequently, the assumption that everyone else is looking at you with envy. It’s a bit of a cycle, isn't it? Whether they're coveting what someone else has or convinced that their own success has made them a target for jealousy, it creates this restless, defensive mindset.
9. Arrogance.
Antisocial personality disorder is a complex diagnosis that often gets misunderstood in casual conversation. It isn't just about being "rebellious" or having a bit of an attitude; it’s a deep-seated pattern of disregarding the rights of others and failing to conform to social norms. When we talk about this, we have to look past the Hollywood stereotypes and focus on the clinical reality of how these individuals interact with the world around them.
It’s basically when someone just refuses to play by the rules. They repeatedly engage in behavior that's clearly against the law, essentially showing a total disregard for social norms through actions that would get anyone else arrested on the spot.
Deceitfulness—whether it’s through constant lying, hiding behind fake identities, or running scams just to line your pockets or satisfy an ego—is a serious issue. It’s more than just being dishonest; it's about intentional manipulation for personal gain.
3. Impulsivity, or simply failing to look before you leap.
4. Irritability and aggression, specifically when it manifests through frequent physical altercations or assaults.
5. Reckless disregard for the safety of oneself or others.
It really comes down to a pattern of consistent irresponsibility—the kind that shows up when someone repeatedly fails to maintain a steady work ethic or simply refuses to honor their financial commitments.
7. A total lack of remorse. This shows up when someone is completely indifferent to the pain they've caused, or worse, they start making excuses for why hurting, mistreating, or stealing from someone else was actually justified.
Do you feel like none of this actually describes you? Personally, I can only see myself in maybe two or three points of the first one, and maybe three or four of the second. 🤷
"Quote:"
What exactly are they doing? And do you actually know how? Is this based on actual field research, or are you just taking someone else's word for it? Honestly, if you could point to specific sources to back up what you claim to know, that would be one thing. But I suspect you can’t quite do that—feel free to correct me if I'm wrong—you just "know," without being able to explain how. Here is my take: if I can't pinpoint exactly where a piece of information comes from, I don't consider it knowledge. Period. I need to know precisely what I am leaning on at any given moment. Who am I implicitly trusting just to keep this supposed "knowledge" standing? It matters, because in this day and age, it is incredibly easy to mistake a lie for the truth.
Furthermore, what kind of authority does the church actually hold? Personally, I don't see any at all. You claim that such authority doesn't belong to them, and honestly, I’d agree—if you could just tell me who that authority *does* belong to. Is it politicians? Psychiatrists? Wealthy merchants? Judges? Lawyers? Most of those people are capable of exerting a far more direct influence on my life than any religious institution ever could. Can you give me one practical example of what would actually be different in your life if this unearned clerical authority didn't exist?
"Quote:"Let’s be honest: a lot of "evil" has been done under the wing of religion. I put "evil" in quotes because, frankly, I’m not even sure what defines it anymore. One thing that really bugs me about organized religion is how easily people label things as "evil," as if they're just discussing onions and water. If we throw that word around so carelessly, what’s even the point of using it? That part isn't up for debate. But look at the reality today—even in highly religious nations, you see things happening that most of the West moved past centuries ago.
Angela Rogers2 Asks:
You take an average, mindless follower and plant a seed of opinion in their head. From there, they just run with it, fueled by that typical small-town, barroom logic. Before you know it, they’re raising their own kids under a heavy blanket of passive-aggression, disguised as God, karma, angels, or demons. To be honest, it disturbs me—at least to the extent that I still have to participate in this society. I won't even get started on the damage done by creationists, cults, or radical religious movements. Religion, quite frankly, does a massive amount of evil in this world.
If I were living in Baghdad, maybe all this would bother me. But since religion has zero impact on my day-to-day life, I honestly couldn't care less about the topic. What actually concerns me are situations like yours and Tanya's. It’s wild when someone gets so obsessed with religious debates that they fail to see how those institutions lost their grip on American society ages ago, leaving other structures to take the lead.
See, I’m not quite that much of an optimist. Based on certain things I've seen, I feel like if today's religious structures were to disappear, new mechanisms would simply emerge to keep the masses in line. Take popular Hollywood teen dramas, for example. If you watch all the trending shows, you quickly learn what you can and cannot say or even think; you learn which behaviors are acceptable and which will push you to the fringes of society. It's a very effective way of socializing people.
Anyway, sorry for the long-winded tangent. We totally veered off track. Let me try to get back to the point: no, I don't believe psychology can do all that much to help with men-and-women relationships. 😁 Then again, since I haven't tested that theory personally, who knows? I might be wrong.
Regarding TV, you're totally and completely right there. It turns people into absolute idiots. I agree. But nowadays, selection plays a key role because there's such a massive variety of behavioral models (and opinions on them) available. Through the multimedia world—from newspapers and TV to radio and finally this all-encompassing internet—we are faced every single day with a mountain of information. We process it, select what's relevant to us, and then either adopt it or discard it as invalid.
And it’s a process that is incredibly fast, at least in terms of intensity and scope. What I actually like about this whole thing is that criticism is possible; it's possible to verify things and look at them from a completely different angle. You're constantly given that opportunity. You're always playing this passive-active role. Personally, I value criticism quite a bit.