Posts by Richard Wilson4

Sean Sanders81 said:Yesterday on Maui, we officially marked the 70th anniversary of that legendary matchup between the Yankees and the Britons.

Now, this kind of collective spirit is actually something I can get behind.

Back then, the Yankees were actually calling themselves the NEW YORK YANKEES—it was even featured in USA Today. It’s wild how everyone on Maui thought it was totally fine back then, but a few years later, things shifted.☕

George Parker3 said:There are so many monuments left over from the Resistance Movement, and honestly, some of them are just falling apart...
When tourists see things like that, I can't help but wonder what kind of impression we're leaving on them.

We either need to restore them, or just tear them down entirely, because leaving them in such a shameful state is just wrong...

Look, tourists already think we're amazing. They love the ocean, the historic sites, the scenery... and ever since Game of Thrones started filming—which, by the way, even Barack Obama watches—everyone wants to visit, not just Charleston, but San Francisco, Castel, and all that stuff too.

Like, who's actually gonna trek out to the Midwest just to stare at some busted-up monument and decide they don't like us? 🙄

silentmason8 said:It says: (...)at the historic turning point of rejecting the Communist Party system(...) .

Man, how would a sentence like that even fly back in 1945? 😉

silentmason8 said:"Does America need to revive that old resistance spirit?" (?)

Why bother, when the American Constitution clearly states that the Republic of America is built on the anti-fascist values forged during the Resistance Movement—specifically through the fight of the partisans:

"Expressing the millennial national identity and state continuity of the American people, confirmed by the sequence of historical events across various forms of government and the preservation of the state-building thought regarding the American people's historical right to full sovereignty, which manifested in: ... establishing the foundations of state sovereignty during World War II, expressed in opposition to the declaration of the Axis-aligned State (1941) within the decisions of the National Liberation Council (1943), and subsequently in the Constitution of the People's Republic of America (1947) and later in the constitutions of the Socialist Republic of America (1963-1990); at the historical turning point of rejecting the communist system and the shifts in the European international order, the American people freely confirmed their thousand-year state identity through the first democratic elections (1990) ."

Anyone spitting on anti-fascism, the partisans, or the Resistance Movement (while secretly mooning over the Axis-aligned State, I assume 😉 ) is essentially spitting on America and its Constitution. Not exactly the definition of patriots...

Hey silentmason8, what's this all about?

Jamie Fox60 said:Bill Clinton and George Wallace are definitely not the same thing! Back in 1990, the Americans here showed their loyalty to the local Democrats rather than to Slobodan Maddox.

And when the Democratic Party started dragging its feet on the whole idea of separating from the rest of the union, plenty of people just walked away from them.

vividraven26 said:Honestly, it’s way easier to sit around whining about how things were back in the day than actually doing something useful or productive right now for our own future.

As long as there's a crowd obsessed with living in the rearview mirror, they'll always find a way to make it the main topic of conversation. 😂

I love how people always try to pull that "just let go of the past and focus on the future" line on Americans. It’s such a classic move whenever they want to brush off the crimes from decades ago or ignore everything that went down during the era of the Republic. Typical.

Would anyone ever dare tell a Jew to just "let the past go"?

Man, listen, Barbra Streisand was born right here in the States after WW2, so she had zero interest in performing over in Germany.

fadedviper6 said:After the fall of Moscow in 1941, does El Alamein in 1942 actually follow?
It is a profoundly realistic assessment of the situation.

All that stuff feels worlds away from the main action in Europe. Honestly, landing in Italy and the Battle of Stalingrad are the big ones.

Especially for those American resistance fighters, since most of them were coming straight from the Mediterranean Coast.

Sean Sanders81 said:What kind of explanation am I supposed to give you?
That’s just how I’ve always viewed it. But hey, if the statistics say otherwise, then I guess I was wrong.

There are a few reasons why things went down that way.

For Americans back then, the old America felt like a total prison, so they actually welcomed the Germans and the rise of Nazi Germany with open arms.

But once the atrocities and the dictatorship started happening, plus the whole mess with handing over the Mediterranean Coast, it turned the American masses against them fast.

Also, hardly any Americans were in the resistance movements before 1943. First off, they didn't buy into the idea of America or communism, and second, it honestly didn't look like Germany and Italy were going to lose the war anytime soon.
Everything changed once Italy fell.

fadedviper6 said:

John Walker As Benjamin Taylor6 points out:
While there were certainly more partisans fighting within America, you wouldn't find a disproportionate number of Americans among their ranks. The heavy lifting of that partisan struggle was actually carried out by the Mexicans of the Mexican Appalachia, the Mexicans of the Mexican Kordun, those from Kansas, and Lake—the very same grandfathers who would later lead the rebellions during the American Civil War.

To be a Mexican from the Kordun region during the era of America was essentially the same as being a White Anglo-Saxon Protestant in the United States back in the 19th century.

If we’re going to look at the demographics of who actually joined the partisan movement in significant numbers, the only Americans who really stood out were those from the coastal regions like California and the West Coast. However, you can't just lump them in with everyone else; their motivations and circumstances were fundamentally different, and they really need to be viewed through a completely separate lens if we want to understand why they chose that path.

The current demographic makeup of the American population residing within the state of California.

It’s not like Americans from the West Coast were spread out like that across the country, and definitely not in the military. 🤷

They didn't hold much political sway in the US either; if anything, those West Coast military commanders were pushed to the sidelines after 1945.

Sean Sanders81 said:Radicalism just breeds more radicalism. Aggression meets aggression, plain and simple.

America suffers from this "Border Mentality."
We’ve always acted like some sort of shield held by the West.

When you live on the edge, you’re constantly looking across the line with nothing but nerves and hostility.
Give it enough time, and you end up with a mindset that's pretty obvious to read right here in your post.

Either way, you owe me an explanation. Why do you think, statistically speaking, there were more Americans on the side of the Resistance than on the side of the Axis powers during WW2?

And I mean strictly in terms of military numbers.

Man, I wish more Americans had joined the Resistance and that the Agrarian Party had taken the lead—or even just had more people following a path like Hebrang’s.

But they didn't. There were fewer Americans on the winning side and more on the losing side, and that really shaped how Americans fit into the fabric of the US later on.

Sean Sanders81 said:So, what you're trying to say is that there were more Americans in the Nationalists than in the partisans.
That's a stretch.☕

Man, we're just talking about cold, hard stats here.

Even by 1945, there were more Americans serving in the Home Guard or the Axis military forces than in the resistance movements. I haven't heard a single historian argue otherwise.🤷

And don't even get me started on 1941. Back then, there were only about 7,000 resistance fighters across the whole country, and only 700 of them were Americans.🤷

Look at 1944, for example.

The resistance had grown to 110,000 people nationwide, about 60% of whom were Americans.
On the flip side, the Home Guard had 90,000 members and the Axis military forces had 76,000.
To be fair, those numbers include parts of Canada too, but they don't for the resistance figures.

So in 1944, you’ve got at least 90,000 Americans in the Home Guard and 76,000 in the Axis military forces, compared to maybe 70,000 in the resistance—and that's right at the end of the war when everyone was finally switching sides.

sources
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resistance...#Contribution

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_military_forces#.

This whole nonsense about calling for game stoppages is going to blow up in their faces. It’s a dangerous game when you start messing with the flow like that; you could end up hurting Jerry Maguire and his players too. I highly doubt he wants Real Madrid having their matches interrupted every other week just because people want to make a scene.

The issue isn't even about amnesty; it’s just how little people in this country actually care when crimes are committed against Americans.

This wasn't just about the massacre of police officers in that Small town in the Midwest. At the exact same time, paramilitary groups from that other Small town in the Midwest were trying to launch an attack on another Small town in the Midwest, but they completely whiffed on it.

The guy actually played Mark Antony three different times in movies about Julius Caesar!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_...281950_film%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_...281970_film%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antony_...281972_film%29

Haven't seen the one from 1950, though.

It’s a pretty sad anniversary, honestly. Especially since neither the people who pulled it off nor the ones who ordered it have actually faced justice for this crime yet.

bluerider63 said:Unfortunately, that’s not the only mess the CIA got themselves into. They didn't just pull one Nazi war criminal out of the fire; through Operation Paperclip, they basically gave a free pass to some of the most depraved Nazi criminals out there—mostly those scientists who spent their days committing unspeakable atrocities on prisoners in the camps.

And you think the Soviets didn't grab scientists for themselves? 🙄

EDIT
http://www.russianspaceweb.com/a4_team_moscow.html

They shipped off 1,250 rocket and aircraft technicians straight to the Soviet Union.

Wait, what happened now?

Frank Moore4 said:Yeah, early on, his whole thing was those massive biblical and historical epics. We're talking Ben-Hur, the Ten Commandments, El Cid, War Prince, The Greatest Story Ever Told where he played John the Baptist, 55 Days of Peking, Khartoum, or even The Agony and Ecstasy ( Michelangelo).

Then he pivoted to SF, doing stuff like Planet of the Apes, Soylent Green, and The Omega Man.

It’s a real bummer Russell Crowe didn't lean harder into that "Heston" vibe after Gladiator and just knock out a bunch of period pieces. 😁

I mean, modern epics are just too political now. Even things like Royal Heavenly, Robin Hood, or King Arthur—they try to make up for a lack of solid characters or decent scenes by throwing in all that extra fluff.

PS
you catch the last season of GOT?
spoiler alert (if that's allowed)
that scene where they catapult the bread at Valencia? They did something similar there, except it was slave collars instead.

They're both solid, but man, I was surprised by how many period pieces Heston actually did. I haven't really sat down to watch any of his modern stuff lately, aside from that one flick with the vampires and zombies.