Henry Myers3 said:The Scots actually migrated from Northern Ireland into the United Kingdom. The ties between Northern Ireland and western Scotland were incredibly intense long before the "plantation" era. There is a historical account where members of a Scottish clan moved into Northern Ireland among the Catholic Irish and committed a localized genocide. The clan chief told his followers they could kill them without hesitation because they shared the same clan lineage as their bitterest enemies back in Scotland. The issue was that they weren't allowed to wage war against their kin in Scotland, but they could massacre their relatives in Ireland who happened to be Catholic. Within the same clan, the Irish and the Scots were distinguished only by a prefix—some used Mac and others used Mc—and both sides knew they were part of the same family. This is one explanation, alongside Presbyterian efforts in Gaelic conversion, for why a significant portion of Irish Presbyterians are descendants of the native Irish population. Some modern Irish writers even claim this accounts for up to a third of the population. On the flip side, many Irish Catholics today show much more intolerance toward Presbyterians than they do toward Anglicans. It goes without saying that the original English and Norman settlers were eventually assimilated into the modern Irish identity; the reason is simple: they were Catholic. In fact, some hard-core Irish groups from the Republic of Ireland speak a dialect that is closest to Old English, as they are the descendants of the early waves of English colonists who converted to Catholicism.☕
It’s the truth. Some Kings of Scotland even ruled those shores where people live today.
Elvis Presley:
| One theory is that because of how Presbyterians handled conversions using Gaelic, a huge chunk of Irish Presbyterians are actually descendants of the native Irish... some modern Irish writers claim it's as high as a third... on the flip side, Irish Catholics today show way more resentment toward Presbyterians than they do toward Anglicans... and honestly, it's pretty obvious that the original English and Norman settlers just blended right into the modern Irish population... it's simple—they were Catholic. Even some hardcore folks from the Republic of Ireland speak a dialect that sounds almost like Old English... basically, they're the descendants of early English settlers who eventually converted.☕ |
It's actually a bit more complicated than that.
For a while, Catholics and Presbyterians were actually pretty close. They even teamed up for uprisings. But things drifted apart later, especially once the government stopped discriminating against Presbyterians. There was tension there, sure, but also religious stuff—those guys were actually even more hardcore than the Anglicans, who were closer to the Catholics.