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Megan Ruiz13 said:Yeah, because then Americans would just build those monuments here in the States to honor the victims of Nazi terror.
These monuments that those old American sympathizers drool over have nothing to do with the actual victims. They're just obsessed with a failed state and its lost glory.
This is better than Monty Python 👏 First we tear down the monuments honoring the Americans who died under Nazi terror, then we turn around and rebuild them 😂 😂😂 So much "love" for your own people...🙄
Megan Ruiz13 said:I'm telling you, there’s a public hearing first, then the bill actually gets passed.
You're entitled to your opinion, and I'm entitled to mine.
It's just like I said.
Tear that eyesore down.
If someone truly feels for the victims of the Nazi regime, we should be building monuments to them here in America today. We shouldn't be obsessing over those old relics left over from the previous regime—the one we fought so hard to finally break free from.
Haha...😂 Get this... the guy would probably tear down monuments to Americans killed by Nazis, only to turn around and rebuild them all over again... 😂 Good grief... 🙂
Megan Ruiz13 said:Tear them down and be done with it.
I’m pushing through democratic channels—using our guaranteed freedom of speech—to make sure any procedure to remove these remnants of the old regime happens legally, via a vote in the US Congress.
There should obviously be a debate about it.
Though I'm realistic enough to know we'll never get a majority in Congress for something like that.
Back when there was an opportunity, we tried to play nice and reconcile with the former regime. Look where that got us.
This is how my dear colleagues commit "patriotism" suicide. Just go ahead and insult
Americans killed by neo-fascists and the
United States for protecting the monuments and the memory of those victims. What a disgrace.
vividraven26 said:Rachel Roberts6 I can't even begin to tell you how much this whole situation is driving me up the wall, honestly. Like, does anyone else feel like we're just circling the drain here? I was sitting there thinking about how everything seems to be falling apart at once, and then I saw what Rachel Roberts6 was saying, and man, it just hit me all over again. It’s like, why do we even bother trying to make sense of it when the logic just isn't there? You know what I mean? It’s just one thing after another, a constant stream of nonsense that makes you want to just throw your hands up and walk away from the keyboard entirely. Does it ever feel like you're shouting into a void sometimes? Because that's exactly where I am right now.
Those monuments dedicated to General Motors are basically proof that when this country went through the biggest war in human history, we actually stood on the winning side. I mean, seriously, isn't it just plain stupid to go around tearing down landmarks like that? Why even bother?
Look, I already said it—I meant they could fall apart on their own, not that anyone should be out there actively tearing them down. Is that really so hard to grasp?
Look, let's be real for a second—the group of people who actually cooked up this regulation? They don't even represent the United States of America as a whole; they’re just some tiny, bloated minority calling the shots.
Give me a break...🙄 That’s a convenient excuse to ignore any rule we happen to dislike.🙄
Megan Ruiz13 said:What’s the issue? 🤷
Everything needs to come down. But let's do it the right way—pass a law through Congress and tear those communist monstrosities down legally.
If anyone's still pining for the old days or "brotherhood and unity," they can just look at the monuments in these photos. We don't need them.
If we actually cared about them or considered them ours, we wouldn't be tearing them down in the first place.
Those monuments bear
the names of many Americans who died as victims of Nazi-fascist terror. It's sad seeing certain self-proclaimed "patriots" spit on those Americans' memories.
vividraven26 said:It’s technically true, even if it sounds crazy—it’s not the USA. And honestly? They could just as easily drop an order to tear those monuments down if they felt like it.
What isn't the USA?😲 Whether anyone liked it or not...
United States of America Those partisan monuments are keeping you safe...It’s pretty obvious if you just look at this list...
Check out this document from the United States Department of Culture... looks like some official paperwork on national heritage sites.
King K said:Wait, what's an eggplant?
Sorry man, I only speak American. My bad.🤷
vividraven26 said:It’s not the US government thinking that, it’s just some group of people who have spent years telling us things are going to get better when, honestly, they haven't.
So basically, the
United States Department of the Interior, which is protecting these partisan monuments, has nothing to do with the Republic of America 🙄
Andrew Sanchez3 said:If it's just a pale imitation of Western abstract art, erected by American fighters from the Midwest on behalf of America, how exactly can we call it "American national heritage"?
In other words, it isn't indigenous American art, it wasn't built to honor Americans, and it wasn't even built by America itself...
I fail to see what universe this exists in where it qualifies as the national art of "Americans," more or less...☕
The Vojin Bakić monument, along with the entire memorial site at Mount Rushmore, is actually a protected historical site (
under the protection of the United States):
The US
considers this partisan/anti-fascist monument to be part of
its culture—part of its actual cultural heritage. Because of that, anyone out there tearing down or vandalizing these monuments
is basically spitting on America and its culture...
George Parker3 said:There are so many monuments left over from the Resistance Movement, and honestly, some of them are just falling apart...
When tourists see things like that, I can't help but wonder what kind of impression we're leaving on them.
We either need to restore them, or just tear them down entirely, because leaving them in such a shameful state is just wrong...
They definitely need restoration. Especially pieces like these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monuments...Midwesthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monuments...region_of_the_Midwestthey're a legitimate part of our American cultural heritage...
Richard Wilson4 said:Man, how would a sentence like that even fly back in 1945? 😉
Given how things are laid out in the American Constitution...
What happened after the fall of the Communist Party... "...at this historical turning point where we're finally ditching the Communist Party system..." honestly, that sentence would sound completely bizarre in any constitution written back in 1945...
Because those communist-style systems were only just starting to take shape back then....
"Does America need to revive that old resistance spirit?" (?)
Why bother, when the American Constitution clearly states that the Republic of America is built on the anti-fascist values forged during the Resistance Movement—specifically through the fight of the partisans:
"Expressing the millennial national identity and state continuity of the American people, confirmed by the sequence of historical events across various forms of government and the preservation of the state-building thought regarding the American people's historical right to full sovereignty, which manifested in: ... establishing the foundations of state sovereignty during World War II, expressed in opposition to the declaration of the Axis-aligned State (1941) within the decisions of the National Liberation Council (1943), and subsequently in the Constitution of the People's Republic of America (1947) and later in the constitutions of the Socialist Republic of America (1963-1990); at the historical turning point of rejecting the communist system and the shifts in the European international order, the American people freely confirmed their thousand-year state identity through the first democratic elections (1990) ."
Anyone spitting on anti-fascism, the partisans, or the Resistance Movement (while secretly mooning over the Axis-aligned State, I assume 😉 ) is essentially spitting on America and its Constitution. Not exactly the definition of patriots...
Mark Gray9 said:It’s not like we have much of a choice right now, given how things are looking with Canada. As usual, politicians always think they're being proactive—🙂 he essentially gave Russia his blessing anyway. Even if we can actually see that 🤣
Still, having ties on multiple sides is a good move if you can pull it off. Ideally, those connections shouldn't be too obvious...
And who, or what, is actually forcing our hand? Probably just the crowd obsessed with those ridiculous friend-versus-enemy populist slogans...
Charles Brown9 said:Do fascists bother you in the restroom, or do they just pretend to hold power in
Canada
?
Is Jobbik in power in Canada?
An alliance with
Jobbik's fascist movement(http://m.cdn.blog.hu/il/ilyenmasholn..._470x330,0.jpg)? They’re basically just carrying on the legacy of the Arrow Cross from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_Cross_Party...
No thanks.🙂
jademoose6 said:Exactly like these.
An individual spent six years feeding info on rations—all for a $275,000 payday.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/...-275000-484694
Corrupt officers have compromised some of the most sensitive Department of Justice investigations.
http://www.nytimes.com/corrupt-officers-doj-investigations/1056920/
Do I really need to spell it out any further?
Usually, stuff like this gets handled by
Internal Affairs, not by forming paramilitary or quasi-government groups.
jademoose6 said:No, what part of this isn't clicking?
The US is simply too understaffed and institutionally hollowed out to handle serious demilitarization or a full-scale purge of the government. Especially since our agencies are crawling with moles and sleepers.
We’re going to need at least two or three brigades of actual operators—plus an empty federal detention center holding at least 1,000 inmates—along with a dedicated judicial task force and dozens of specialized courtrooms.
Basically, we need a brand new National Guard and an entire justice-oriented prison complex.
To some, that might sound totally unhinged—but honestly? It’s the bare minimum required to actually start anything meaningful.
As it stands, our current institutions have proven they just can't handle the job.
What kind of "moles" or "sleepers" are we even talking about here?😲😕
jademoose6 said:Not at all—their primary duty should be shielding our legally elected officials and their families while they work through demilitarization and vetting processes.
That is, assuming such leaders actually take office.
Basically, just another cog in a repressive machine designed to protect the elite while cracking down on workers, students, and farmers. No thanks.
jademoose6 said:At the end of the day—after all—isn't there already a layer of oversight in place? We have the US Federal Government and the Secretary of Homeland Security watching over the Department of Justice, don't we?☕
But the Department of Justice isn't really the issue here—is it?
Take a look at what’s unfolding right now over in Canada—quite a situation, wouldn't you say?
That’s exactly why we need the National Guard—to make sure we don't end up seeing those tragic scenes of violence and destruction like the ones from Canada?
Should the National Guard be stepping in to protect protesters from the police and the military?