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rustydrifter10 said:It really depends on how much you twist the nickname.
Constructive threads with suggestions are always welcome and anyone can jump in as long as they make solid points and follow the rules.
rowdyhawk15 said:A proven method for dealing with PBS collectors—when they knock on your door, open it and
1. Ask who they are and who specifically they are looking for (most of the time, they don’t actually know; they just read a last name off a list).
2. Once you've done that, ask for their ID—not some flimsy laminated card, but actual identification—and politely note down their name, surname, address, and employee ID number. If they refuse to provide their ID, simply tell them the conversation is over and close the door.
3. After you've logged their details, ask what they want. Listen patiently while they drone on.
4. Your response should be: "I have no comment, thank you," then shut the door.
5. Following this, you'll receive the infamous PBS notice regarding the initiation of a misdemeanor proceeding. It’ll claim that the mighty, all-powerful PBS "determined" on a certain date at your specific address that the subscription for one receiver isn't being paid. It states that legal action has been initiated and the case has been handed over to the PBS legal department. Inside, there's usually a bill for $80 (perhaps more if two collectors showed up, maybe $160) covering a "prior period"—which is essentially just the collector's commission for signing up a new subscriber. The fine print claims that by paying, you are consenting to be registered as a subscriber. So, DO NOT pay that bill; doing so is functionally the same as signing yourself up.
6. File the notice away and wait.
7. There is a 99% chance nothing happens. You won't get a court summons. Instead, in about two years, a collector will show up again, and you just repeat steps 1 through 6.
8. If you fall into that 1% where things actually move forward, it means the collector forged your signature on the application (I've seen this happen before). In court, you state clearly that the signature isn't yours and demand they produce evidence proving the existence of a receiver. Don't bother defending yourself by saying "I don't have a TV"; instead, challenge them to provide the proof. Since they have none, the court will dismiss the case due to lack of evidence. Honestly, seeing the look on those vultures from Hanžeković's office when they realize they've lost the case is worth it. Make sure to ask the court for travel expenses and opportunity costs since you wasted your day. You might recover the travel costs, but you certainly won't see any compensation for your lost time.
It would probably be wise to record the conversation with the collector, but I never thought to grab my camera. Next time.
Regards,
Elizabeth Price2 said:Preach! 👍
But apparently, that’s a hard pill to swallow for certain folks on this thread. It’s basically a classic case of personal wishes hitting the brick wall of reality. That's what's tripping them up.
nimblelynx7 said:Let's break down the infamous Section 34 in more detail.
The requirements for being liable for the public broadcasting fee:
- owning both a radio and a television receiver
- owning any other device used to receive radio OR audiovisual programming
- being located within the US
- having access to a "broadcast signal."
You might be able to dodge a single requirement, but hitting all of them at once is a tall order. The only way to evade payment is by nitpicking the definitions of "radio and television receiver," "other device for receiving radio or audiovisual programming," and "broadcast signal."
Regarding the radio and TV receiver—if you stretch the logic, you could argue that you shouldn't pay for just a radio, since a radio isn't a television receiver, and a TV receiver doesn't necessarily have to function as a radio (that's a logical AND operation). This brings us back to the old debate: do you owe the fee if you use a TV without a digital tuner? That loophole closes fast if the TV has a built-in digital tuner.
Then there's the "other device for receiving radio OR audiovisual programming." Since it uses an OR operator here, the device just needs to receive either radio or audiovisual content. This raises the question: what exactly constitutes "audiovisual programming"? Does this mean anyone with access to a YouTube video or an MP3 is liable for the fee, regardless of whether they ever tune into PBS, as long as they are on US soil?
As for the "broadcast signal"—there might be some room to maneuver if you stretch the definition of what a "broadcast signal" actually is.
A signal is defined as a phenomenon that carries information—or, in electrical engineering terms, a function of one or more independent variables. PBS offers streaming on its website. The only potential loophole I see is trying to prove through legal channels that such access doesn't constitute having access to a "broadcast signal"—essentially arguing that an internet connection isn't a broadcast signal. That won't be easy. Unless, of course, you can successfully argue that a string of bits isn't a signal?
Furthermore, the wording in Section 34 works in favor of PBS because it never specifies "a PBS broadcast signal"; it simply says "a broadcast signal." It fails to define the nature of that signal, specifically omitting any requirement that it must exist within the RF spectrum.
According to Section 34, the prerequisite for the fee is the *possibility* of receiving a broadcast signal, not just the act of receiving it. It implies that if you have the capability to receive it, you are liable. You could attempt to argue that you are being forced to utilize something against your will, potentially linking this to consumer protection laws, human rights, or even criminal statutes regarding extortion.
For the record, I'm rooting for those dodging the fee, and I generally despise the fee itself. But here, I am merely providing my interpretation of how the law stands, not how I wish it were.
Paul Johnson said:Given how many people have already settled their debts with NBC, I doubt the Hanžeković crowd gives a damn about losing out on fees from folks like us.
The thread itself proves it; most people just pay up before things even reach a courtroom.
slycyclist342 said:👎
Absolutely not... don't spread that kind of misinformation, because you're just going to land people in hot water.
The law states: "Anyone who owns or possesses"
If you have the device in your possession (regardless of whether you actually own it), YOU OWE THE TAX.
That is what the law says.
If you don't want to pay, just leave the phone and laptop at the office when you head home.🙂
If you possess a tuner or a smartphone (regardless of whether you actually use them), you have to pay the tax.
So decide carefully how you want to talk about this stuff.
Exactly... that's precisely why they phrased the law that way.
Elizabeth Price2 said:Yeah, totally—defining what a "secondary receiver" is has absolutely zero bearing on this debate, so yeah, we're definitely drifting off course. 🙄 I just honestly have no clue what we've even been talking about for the last two pages! And hey, you were the one who brought up being "untuned" in the first place.
I see how it is, though—you were "smart" enough to get all worked up over some nitpicky thing about glasses/visors, so that clearly wasn't an issue for you, right?
Man, you are seriously just lying to yourself at this point. 🙂
Anyway, I'm done. I am officially checking out of this conversation with you. There's a pretty good chance I might catch a warning or a strike because of this back-and-forth, but I really don't want to end up getting banned just because of some total hack and know-nothing.
So, yeah... take care. 👋
slycyclist342 said:My phone doesn't have a dedicated radio tuner, but I listen to the radio through it just fine... modern miracles, I guess. 🙂
As far as I'm aware, they stream the full radio programming 24/7.
And even if they didn't stream everything, it wouldn't change much.
There’s nothing in the law stating that if you can only catch half the program, you only pay half the fee—or none at all.
If you have the ability to listen, you pay.
For starters, even the internet doesn't always travel through wires anymore. 😉
Besides, the law doesn't specify that the fee applies only to devices reproducing audiovisual programs via wire, wireless signals, or whatever else... it covers everything. The law is pretty straightforward.
If they prove you own a laptop or a smartphone, I'm fairly certain you'll be stuck paying the fee.
At the end of the day... even if you try to argue the distinction, do you really think a judge has a degree in electrical engineering and will actually care about those technicalities?
Whether the laws in America are logical, moral, or fair... well, that's a different conversation entirely.
Off-topic, but look at this: some high-profile guy gets sentenced to a year in prison for damages worth millions, and then they just swap it out for community service.
One day of jail becomes two hours of work.
That's how American laws work... moral, fair, and always looking out for the little guy. 🙂
Elizabeth Price2 said:Look, I feel like I’ve already explained this to you a dozen times—along with everything else you brought up in your last post—but it's clearly going in one ear and out the other. You're acting like a horse wearing those blinders that force you to look in only one direction (I think Google calls them "blinders," if I recall correctly!) 😉
Anyway, why don't you tell *me* what actually falls under your definition of that "so-called second receiver"—you know, that "device for receiving radio or audiovisual programs"?
And yeah, just curious—when you turn on the TV without an antenna, what kind of "signals" are you actually picking up? 🤣
Elizabeth Price2 said:Look, I feel like I’ve already explained this to you a dozen times—along with everything else you brought up in your last post—but it's clearly going in one ear and out the other. You're acting like a horse wearing those blinders that force you to look in only one direction (I think Google calls them "blinders," if I recall correctly!) 😉
Anyway, why don't you tell *me* what actually falls under your definition of that "so-called second receiver"—you know, that "device for receiving radio or audiovisual programs"?
And yeah, just curious—when you turn on the TV without an antenna, what kind of "signals" are you actually picking up? 🤣
Elizabeth Price2 said:Look, I feel like I’ve already explained this to you a dozen times—along with everything else you brought up in your last post—but it's clearly going in one ear and out the other. You're acting like a horse wearing those blinders that force you to look in only one direction (I think Google calls them "blinders," if I recall correctly!) 😉
Anyway, why don't you tell *me* what actually falls under your definition of that "so-called second receiver"—you know, that "device for receiving radio or audiovisual programs"?
And yeah, just curious—when you turn on the TV without an antenna, what kind of "signals" are you actually picking up? 🤣
Elizabeth Price2 said:Man, you are being so incredibly flaky, I can't even deal! Seriously, what is up with you? 😁I can't even begin to describe how much I love this guy—seriously, he's such a legend! Just sitting here thinking about him and honestly, my heart is just full. He’s got that vibe, you know? That one-in-a-million energy that just makes everything better. I could talk about him all day, though I probably wouldn't sound nearly as cool doing it—I'm way too much of a rambling mess most of the time! But yeah, seriously, what a total gem. kaže:
And why are you acting like such a big shot all of a sudden? Seriously! 🙂
Look, if someone comes at me with that massive ego, I’m just gonna give that same energy right back to them—total action-reaction style. It’s honestly pretty simple!I can't even begin to describe how much I love this guy—seriously, he’s just such a vibe! He’s got that energy that just hits different, you know? Like, honestly, if more people were like him, the world would be a way less stressful place. Just pure, unadulterated good vibes! kaže:
Look, we’re just not on the same page here—mostly because you kept trying to feed me all that NPR's propaganda and junk news like it was actually legit. Sorry about that, buddy! 😁
Just because some debt collectors are out there doing their thing doesn't mean what they’re doing actually makes sense—or that it should be allowed to happen! I mean, seriously, you've got people practically breaking into folks' homes, intimidating them, and shaking them down for cash. If you're totally cool with that kind of shady behavior, then hey, feel free to let them target you next time! All I'm asking is that you don't go around telling everyone else they just have to sit there and take it. 😉
Look, I’m not out here trying to pull any fast ones on anyone—I’m just sticking to what the Public Broadcasting Act actually says! If anyone’s trying to play games or dodge the rules around here, honestly, that’s on you. Because if people actually listen to your logic, they’re gonna end up walking right out the door to meet the tax man while clutching a smartphone—which, let's be real, probably has an FM radio anyway—or they'll just happily invite the whole situation into their house thinking, "Hey, I don't have a TV, I just have a PC!" and then try to act all tough when it comes to paying their dues. It's just common sense, really!
Look, before you even dive into this—and I’m just putting this out there now—we aren't actually debating whether or not people should be allowed into someone's house or apartment. Seriously, we totally settled that argument ages ago!I don't have any text to work with yet! Send over the post you want me to overhaul, and I'll get right on it—turning it into something fresh, punchy, and totally American while keeping that specific, high-energy vibe intact. Ready when you are! kaže:
I mean, whatever that show happens to be, I seriously cannot get it to run on my computer—it's just not happening! So, like, why am I even footing the bill at this point? It feels totally pointless! 😕
I mean, obviously a computer can't just magically pull in NPR's programming out of thin air! It’s like saying a TV won't work without a built-in tuner—or like my car radio being totally useless if I don't have an antenna, right? It's just how things work. But that doesn't mean you can't make it happen with a little extra gear—you know, like adding a TV tuner card, setting up an antenna, or just hopping onto the internet. So, seriously, why are you acting like this is some impossible mystery?
Look, like I was saying before—it’s honestly kind of ridiculous! It’s like someone walking around claiming they own this vintage TV that only ever gets used to hook up a PlayStation. You know what I mean? There isn't an antenna in sight, no satellite dish, nothing—zero connection to any broadcast. So, seriously, why on earth should they be stuck paying those fees? It just doesn't make sense! 😕 Look, I don't know how else to lay this out for you—it’s pretty straightforward! Just the simple fact that you own a TV means you're on the hook for the fee. It's basically built into the system—how else am I supposed to explain it to you?
Seriously, just give the text right before that last quote a quick read—it totally applies to this little gem you dropped. And I'm gonna say it again just so we're clear: there is zero connection to "radio" or any other kind of signal here. The Public Broadcasting Act mentions "portable signals," which is such a super broad category that it definitely covers way more than the one specific thing you keep insisting on.
Elizabeth Price2 said:Man, you are being so incredibly flaky, I can't even deal! Seriously, what is up with you? 😁I can't even begin to describe how much I love this guy—seriously, he's such a legend! Just sitting here thinking about him and honestly, my heart is just full. He’s got that vibe, you know? That one-in-a-million energy that just makes everything better. I could talk about him all day, though I probably wouldn't sound nearly as cool doing it—I'm way too much of a rambling mess most of the time! But yeah, seriously, what a total gem. kaže:
And why are you acting like such a big shot all of a sudden? Seriously! 🙂
Look, if someone comes at me with that massive ego, I’m just gonna give that same energy right back to them—total action-reaction style. It’s honestly pretty simple!I can't even begin to describe how much I love this guy—seriously, he’s just such a vibe! He’s got that energy that just hits different, you know? Like, honestly, if more people were like him, the world would be a way less stressful place. Just pure, unadulterated good vibes! kaže:
Look, we’re just not on the same page here—mostly because you kept trying to feed me all that NPR's propaganda and junk news like it was actually legit. Sorry about that, buddy! 😁
Just because some debt collectors are out there doing their thing doesn't mean what they’re doing actually makes sense—or that it should be allowed to happen! I mean, seriously, you've got people practically breaking into folks' homes, intimidating them, and shaking them down for cash. If you're totally cool with that kind of shady behavior, then hey, feel free to let them target you next time! All I'm asking is that you don't go around telling everyone else they just have to sit there and take it. 😉
Look, I’m not out here trying to pull any fast ones on anyone—I’m just sticking to what the Public Broadcasting Act actually says! If anyone’s trying to play games or dodge the rules around here, honestly, that’s on you. Because if people actually listen to your logic, they’re gonna end up walking right out the door to meet the tax man while clutching a smartphone—which, let's be real, probably has an FM radio anyway—or they'll just happily invite the whole situation into their house thinking, "Hey, I don't have a TV, I just have a PC!" and then try to act all tough when it comes to paying their dues. It's just common sense, really!
Look, before you even dive into this—and I’m just putting this out there now—we aren't actually debating whether or not people should be allowed into someone's house or apartment. Seriously, we totally settled that argument ages ago!I don't have any text to work with yet! Send over the post you want me to overhaul, and I'll get right on it—turning it into something fresh, punchy, and totally American while keeping that specific, high-energy vibe intact. Ready when you are! kaže:
I mean, whatever that show happens to be, I seriously cannot get it to run on my computer—it's just not happening! So, like, why am I even footing the bill at this point? It feels totally pointless! 😕
I mean, obviously a computer can't just magically pull in NPR's programming out of thin air! It’s like saying a TV won't work without a built-in tuner—or like my car radio being totally useless if I don't have an antenna, right? It's just how things work. But that doesn't mean you can't make it happen with a little extra gear—you know, like adding a TV tuner card, setting up an antenna, or just hopping onto the internet. So, seriously, why are you acting like this is some impossible mystery?
Look, like I was saying before—it’s honestly kind of ridiculous! It’s like someone walking around claiming they own this vintage TV that only ever gets used to hook up a PlayStation. You know what I mean? There isn't an antenna in sight, no satellite dish, nothing—zero connection to any broadcast. So, seriously, why on earth should they be stuck paying those fees? It just doesn't make sense! 😕 Look, I don't know how else to lay this out for you—it’s pretty straightforward! Just the simple fact that you own a TV means you're on the hook for the fee. It's basically built into the system—how else am I supposed to explain it to you?
Seriously, just give the text right before that last quote a quick read—it totally applies to this little gem you dropped. And I'm gonna say it again just so we're clear: there is zero connection to "radio" or any other kind of signal here. The Public Broadcasting Act mentions "portable signals," which is such a super broad category that it definitely covers way more than the one specific thing you keep insisting on.
Elizabeth Price2 said:Man, you are being so incredibly flaky, I can't even deal! Seriously, what is up with you? 😁I can't even begin to describe how much I love this guy—seriously, he's such a legend! Just sitting here thinking about him and honestly, my heart is just full. He’s got that vibe, you know? That one-in-a-million energy that just makes everything better. I could talk about him all day, though I probably wouldn't sound nearly as cool doing it—I'm way too much of a rambling mess most of the time! But yeah, seriously, what a total gem. kaže:
And why are you acting like such a big shot all of a sudden? Seriously! 🙂
Look, if someone comes at me with that massive ego, I’m just gonna give that same energy right back to them—total action-reaction style. It’s honestly pretty simple!I can't even begin to describe how much I love this guy—seriously, he’s just such a vibe! He’s got that energy that just hits different, you know? Like, honestly, if more people were like him, the world would be a way less stressful place. Just pure, unadulterated good vibes! kaže:
Look, we’re just not on the same page here—mostly because you kept trying to feed me all that NPR's propaganda and junk news like it was actually legit. Sorry about that, buddy! 😁
Just because some debt collectors are out there doing their thing doesn't mean what they’re doing actually makes sense—or that it should be allowed to happen! I mean, seriously, you've got people practically breaking into folks' homes, intimidating them, and shaking them down for cash. If you're totally cool with that kind of shady behavior, then hey, feel free to let them target you next time! All I'm asking is that you don't go around telling everyone else they just have to sit there and take it. 😉
Look, I’m not out here trying to pull any fast ones on anyone—I’m just sticking to what the Public Broadcasting Act actually says! If anyone’s trying to play games or dodge the rules around here, honestly, that’s on you. Because if people actually listen to your logic, they’re gonna end up walking right out the door to meet the tax man while clutching a smartphone—which, let's be real, probably has an FM radio anyway—or they'll just happily invite the whole situation into their house thinking, "Hey, I don't have a TV, I just have a PC!" and then try to act all tough when it comes to paying their dues. It's just common sense, really!
Look, before you even dive into this—and I’m just putting this out there now—we aren't actually debating whether or not people should be allowed into someone's house or apartment. Seriously, we totally settled that argument ages ago!I don't have any text to work with yet! Send over the post you want me to overhaul, and I'll get right on it—turning it into something fresh, punchy, and totally American while keeping that specific, high-energy vibe intact. Ready when you are! kaže:
I mean, whatever that show happens to be, I seriously cannot get it to run on my computer—it's just not happening! So, like, why am I even footing the bill at this point? It feels totally pointless! 😕
I mean, obviously a computer can't just magically pull in NPR's programming out of thin air! It’s like saying a TV won't work without a built-in tuner—or like my car radio being totally useless if I don't have an antenna, right? It's just how things work. But that doesn't mean you can't make it happen with a little extra gear—you know, like adding a TV tuner card, setting up an antenna, or just hopping onto the internet. So, seriously, why are you acting like this is some impossible mystery?
Look, like I was saying before—it’s honestly kind of ridiculous! It’s like someone walking around claiming they own this vintage TV that only ever gets used to hook up a PlayStation. You know what I mean? There isn't an antenna in sight, no satellite dish, nothing—zero connection to any broadcast. So, seriously, why on earth should they be stuck paying those fees? It just doesn't make sense! 😕 Look, I don't know how else to lay this out for you—it’s pretty straightforward! Just the simple fact that you own a TV means you're on the hook for the fee. It's basically built into the system—how else am I supposed to explain it to you?
Seriously, just give the text right before that last quote a quick read—it totally applies to this little gem you dropped. And I'm gonna say it again just so we're clear: there is zero connection to "radio" or any other kind of signal here. The Public Broadcasting Act mentions "portable signals," which is such a super broad category that it definitely covers way more than the one specific thing you keep insisting on.
Elizabeth Price2 said:Man, you are being so incredibly flaky, I can't even deal! Seriously, what is up with you? 😁I can't even begin to describe how much I love this guy—seriously, he's such a legend! Just sitting here thinking about him and honestly, my heart is just full. He’s got that vibe, you know? That one-in-a-million energy that just makes everything better. I could talk about him all day, though I probably wouldn't sound nearly as cool doing it—I'm way too much of a rambling mess most of the time! But yeah, seriously, what a total gem. kaže:
And why are you acting like such a big shot all of a sudden? Seriously! 🙂
Look, if someone comes at me with that massive ego, I’m just gonna give that same energy right back to them—total action-reaction style. It’s honestly pretty simple!I can't even begin to describe how much I love this guy—seriously, he’s just such a vibe! He’s got that energy that just hits different, you know? Like, honestly, if more people were like him, the world would be a way less stressful place. Just pure, unadulterated good vibes! kaže:
Look, we’re just not on the same page here—mostly because you kept trying to feed me all that NPR's propaganda and junk news like it was actually legit. Sorry about that, buddy! 😁
Just because some debt collectors are out there doing their thing doesn't mean what they’re doing actually makes sense—or that it should be allowed to happen! I mean, seriously, you've got people practically breaking into folks' homes, intimidating them, and shaking them down for cash. If you're totally cool with that kind of shady behavior, then hey, feel free to let them target you next time! All I'm asking is that you don't go around telling everyone else they just have to sit there and take it. 😉
Look, I’m not out here trying to pull any fast ones on anyone—I’m just sticking to what the Public Broadcasting Act actually says! If anyone’s trying to play games or dodge the rules around here, honestly, that’s on you. Because if people actually listen to your logic, they’re gonna end up walking right out the door to meet the tax man while clutching a smartphone—which, let's be real, probably has an FM radio anyway—or they'll just happily invite the whole situation into their house thinking, "Hey, I don't have a TV, I just have a PC!" and then try to act all tough when it comes to paying their dues. It's just common sense, really!
Look, before you even dive into this—and I’m just putting this out there now—we aren't actually debating whether or not people should be allowed into someone's house or apartment. Seriously, we totally settled that argument ages ago!I don't have any text to work with yet! Send over the post you want me to overhaul, and I'll get right on it—turning it into something fresh, punchy, and totally American while keeping that specific, high-energy vibe intact. Ready when you are! kaže:
I mean, whatever that show happens to be, I seriously cannot get it to run on my computer—it's just not happening! So, like, why am I even footing the bill at this point? It feels totally pointless! 😕
I mean, obviously a computer can't just magically pull in NPR's programming out of thin air! It’s like saying a TV won't work without a built-in tuner—or like my car radio being totally useless if I don't have an antenna, right? It's just how things work. But that doesn't mean you can't make it happen with a little extra gear—you know, like adding a TV tuner card, setting up an antenna, or just hopping onto the internet. So, seriously, why are you acting like this is some impossible mystery?
Look, like I was saying before—it’s honestly kind of ridiculous! It’s like someone walking around claiming they own this vintage TV that only ever gets used to hook up a PlayStation. You know what I mean? There isn't an antenna in sight, no satellite dish, nothing—zero connection to any broadcast. So, seriously, why on earth should they be stuck paying those fees? It just doesn't make sense! 😕 Look, I don't know how else to lay this out for you—it’s pretty straightforward! Just the simple fact that you own a TV means you're on the hook for the fee. It's basically built into the system—how else am I supposed to explain it to you?
Seriously, just give the text right before that last quote a quick read—it totally applies to this little gem you dropped. And I'm gonna say it again just so we're clear: there is zero connection to "radio" or any other kind of signal here. The Public Broadcasting Act mentions "portable signals," which is such a super broad category that it definitely covers way more than the one specific thing you keep insisting on.
Elizabeth Price2 said:Man, you are being so incredibly flaky, I can't even deal! Seriously, what is up with you? 😁I can't even begin to describe how much I love this guy—seriously, he's such a legend! Just sitting here thinking about him and honestly, my heart is just full. He’s got that vibe, you know? That one-in-a-million energy that just makes everything better. I could talk about him all day, though I probably wouldn't sound nearly as cool doing it—I'm way too much of a rambling mess most of the time! But yeah, seriously, what a total gem. kaže:
And why are you acting like such a big shot all of a sudden? Seriously! 🙂
Look, if someone comes at me with that massive ego, I’m just gonna give that same energy right back to them—total action-reaction style. It’s honestly pretty simple!I can't even begin to describe how much I love this guy—seriously, he’s just such a vibe! He’s got that energy that just hits different, you know? Like, honestly, if more people were like him, the world would be a way less stressful place. Just pure, unadulterated good vibes! kaže:
Look, we’re just not on the same page here—mostly because you kept trying to feed me all that NPR's propaganda and junk news like it was actually legit. Sorry about that, buddy! 😁
Just because some debt collectors are out there doing their thing doesn't mean what they’re doing actually makes sense—or that it should be allowed to happen! I mean, seriously, you've got people practically breaking into folks' homes, intimidating them, and shaking them down for cash. If you're totally cool with that kind of shady behavior, then hey, feel free to let them target you next time! All I'm asking is that you don't go around telling everyone else they just have to sit there and take it. 😉
Look, I’m not out here trying to pull any fast ones on anyone—I’m just sticking to what the Public Broadcasting Act actually says! If anyone’s trying to play games or dodge the rules around here, honestly, that’s on you. Because if people actually listen to your logic, they’re gonna end up walking right out the door to meet the tax man while clutching a smartphone—which, let's be real, probably has an FM radio anyway—or they'll just happily invite the whole situation into their house thinking, "Hey, I don't have a TV, I just have a PC!" and then try to act all tough when it comes to paying their dues. It's just common sense, really!
Look, before you even dive into this—and I’m just putting this out there now—we aren't actually debating whether or not people should be allowed into someone's house or apartment. Seriously, we totally settled that argument ages ago!I don't have any text to work with yet! Send over the post you want me to overhaul, and I'll get right on it—turning it into something fresh, punchy, and totally American while keeping that specific, high-energy vibe intact. Ready when you are! kaže:
I mean, whatever that show happens to be, I seriously cannot get it to run on my computer—it's just not happening! So, like, why am I even footing the bill at this point? It feels totally pointless! 😕
I mean, obviously a computer can't just magically pull in NPR's programming out of thin air! It’s like saying a TV won't work without a built-in tuner—or like my car radio being totally useless if I don't have an antenna, right? It's just how things work. But that doesn't mean you can't make it happen with a little extra gear—you know, like adding a TV tuner card, setting up an antenna, or just hopping onto the internet. So, seriously, why are you acting like this is some impossible mystery?
Look, like I was saying before—it’s honestly kind of ridiculous! It’s like someone walking around claiming they own this vintage TV that only ever gets used to hook up a PlayStation. You know what I mean? There isn't an antenna in sight, no satellite dish, nothing—zero connection to any broadcast. So, seriously, why on earth should they be stuck paying those fees? It just doesn't make sense! 😕 Look, I don't know how else to lay this out for you—it’s pretty straightforward! Just the simple fact that you own a TV means you're on the hook for the fee. It's basically built into the system—how else am I supposed to explain it to you?
Seriously, just give the text right before that last quote a quick read—it totally applies to this little gem you dropped. And I'm gonna say it again just so we're clear: there is zero connection to "radio" or any other kind of signal here. The Public Broadcasting Act mentions "portable signals," which is such a super broad category that it definitely covers way more than the one specific thing you keep insisting on.
Elizabeth Price2 said:First off, why the attitude? We're on the same side here! 😉
Secondly, the public service fee is paid because you own a device capable of accessing the internet—that’s just a straight fact. I didn't make it up; it's right there in the Public Broadcasting Act, and the collectors enforce it.
So, let me say it again: if a device can access the internet, it can receive PBS radio and audiovisual programming. Period. Nowhere in the Law does it say the programming has to be received exclusively via radio waves. Get it now?
If you want to be extra clear, go read Article 3 of the Public Broadcasting Act where it defines what counts as PBS radio and audiovisual programming. And finally, check out that famous Article 34 (1): Anyone who owns or possesses a radio or television receiver, or any other device for receiving radio or audiovisual programming (hereafter referred to as a receiver) within the United States of America covered by a broadcast signal is required to pay PBS a monthly fee as determined by Article 35, paragraph 2 of this Act, unless otherwise specified herein.
Wait, what do you mean your TV isn't a receiver (since it doesn't have built-in digital tuner)? If you don't even have an antenna, you aren't paying anything. You're totally mistaken there.
Elizabeth Price2 said:First off, why the attitude? We're on the same side here! 😉
Secondly, the public service fee is paid because you own a device capable of accessing the internet—that’s just a straight fact. I didn't make it up; it's right there in the Public Broadcasting Act, and the collectors enforce it.
So, let me say it again: if a device can access the internet, it can receive PBS radio and audiovisual programming. Period. Nowhere in the Law does it say the programming has to be received exclusively via radio waves. Get it now?
If you want to be extra clear, go read Article 3 of the Public Broadcasting Act where it defines what counts as PBS radio and audiovisual programming. And finally, check out that famous Article 34 (1): Anyone who owns or possesses a radio or television receiver, or any other device for receiving radio or audiovisual programming (hereafter referred to as a receiver) within the United States of America covered by a broadcast signal is required to pay PBS a monthly fee as determined by Article 35, paragraph 2 of this Act, unless otherwise specified herein.
Wait, what do you mean your TV isn't a receiver (since it doesn't have built-in digital tuner)? If you don't even have an antenna, you aren't paying anything. You're totally mistaken there.
Elizabeth Price2 said:First off, why the attitude? We're on the same side here! 😉
Secondly, the public service fee is paid because you own a device capable of accessing the internet—that’s just a straight fact. I didn't make it up; it's right there in the Public Broadcasting Act, and the collectors enforce it.
So, let me say it again: if a device can access the internet, it can receive PBS radio and audiovisual programming. Period. Nowhere in the Law does it say the programming has to be received exclusively via radio waves. Get it now?
If you want to be extra clear, go read Article 3 of the Public Broadcasting Act where it defines what counts as PBS radio and audiovisual programming. And finally, check out that famous Article 34 (1): Anyone who owns or possesses a radio or television receiver, or any other device for receiving radio or audiovisual programming (hereafter referred to as a receiver) within the United States of America covered by a broadcast signal is required to pay PBS a monthly fee as determined by Article 35, paragraph 2 of this Act, unless otherwise specified herein.
Wait, what do you mean your TV isn't a receiver (since it doesn't have built-in digital tuner)? If you don't even have an antenna, you aren't paying anything. You're totally mistaken there.
Elizabeth Price2 said:First off, why the attitude? We're on the same side here! 😉
Secondly, the public service fee is paid because you own a device capable of accessing the internet—that’s just a straight fact. I didn't make it up; it's right there in the Public Broadcasting Act, and the collectors enforce it.
So, let me say it again: if a device can access the internet, it can receive PBS radio and audiovisual programming. Period. Nowhere in the Law does it say the programming has to be received exclusively via radio waves. Get it now?
If you want to be extra clear, go read Article 3 of the Public Broadcasting Act where it defines what counts as PBS radio and audiovisual programming. And finally, check out that famous Article 34 (1): Anyone who owns or possesses a radio or television receiver, or any other device for receiving radio or audiovisual programming (hereafter referred to as a receiver) within the United States of America covered by a broadcast signal is required to pay PBS a monthly fee as determined by Article 35, paragraph 2 of this Act, unless otherwise specified herein.
Wait, what do you mean your TV isn't a receiver (since it doesn't have built-in digital tuner)? If you don't even have an antenna, you aren't paying anything. You're totally mistaken there.