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Appeal for PDF blocking issue in Feedback & Suggestions ·
ironseal10 said:@Henry Kim3,
Look, let me be real with you—I’m still on probation here, and I have zero desire to post something reckless that lands me in ban jail. And if we’re being honest, I think you should probably dial it back a notch instead of pushing such extreme ideas. We’re all just hanging out on a general interest forum where we can express ourselves without all that stifling stuffiness. Honestly, everything you just laid out is pretty irritating to people, which is totally understandable. Most folks here would much rather stick to something simple, like picking up some fruit at a local grocery store. Knowing your intellectual capacity, I’m certain you’re more than capable of sharing your views without coming off as an extremist or exhausting everyone who is just here to unwind and have a good time. For my sake, please—show the whole forum, and the entire LJES, what kind of wood you're actually carved from.
You can definitely do better than dustyranger64. I had no idea you had Canadian blood in you; I always thought it was just those hot-headed types from the South.😍

Oh man, when I first showed up on this forum, I was dealing with so many issues and everything,

so I was generally a little on edge... My apologies for that...

I mean, all I want is for someone to give me a CHANCE! That's it... If I turn out to be a jerk and

garbage, or if I feel like I can't keep my mouth shut about certain things

I will IMMEDIATELY tell the mods and admins to just pull that PDF and call it a day.

And seriously, I'm not some piece of trash. If I PROMISE you that I won't talk crap

and write the way I used to, then that's that.

Again, I'm saying, just let me have a trial period, and damn it,

if I mess up again, then I really am garbage, and so be it.

Seriously, Admins and mods, I really am NOT interested in arguing or

acting like a know-it-all to anyone.

Once more, I am ASKING you for one chance.

Basically, just give me the opportunity to show you that I'm different than what you think

and then you can easily go ahead and do what you've already done,

which is just block me again and that's that.
Appeal for PDF blocking issue in Feedback & Suggestions ·
dustyranger64 said:The mods missed the mark on this one—honestly, they should've handed out more warnings and hit that ban button way before the halftime break!
Look, it’s not about picking on you. Not even close! It’s honestly just hoping that maybe—just maybe—it’ll finally click for you, you'll realize what you're doing wrong, and you can stop before things get messy.
Look, if you had come to us with a legitimate request to scrap this partial, we would have actually taken you seriously. But honestly? This whole thread is just a mess of fake claims, accusations, and baseless finger-pointing about persecution. It’s all noise. Because of that, the three LJES moderators have reached a consensus: your partial stays exactly where it is.
Just a few more details, besides the fact that the whole conversation is just one big, disrespectful mess:

And what about that... Allowed. It’s just plain wrong. Like, "cheat on your husband and you deserve..."—you know the kind of stuff people say. Total nonsense.

You need a catchy word.
Look, it’s not up to the mods or this forum to play moral police. If someone wants to cheat or back a shady decision, the moderators aren't going to step in and defend that behavior. Everyone has a right to their own opinion. Your take isn't "problematic" just because it's different from mine. You were only being problematic because you jumped into every single thread involving cheating or hookup culture just to lecture everyone else on their morals. Something extra, even when it wasn't even what we were talking about!

It’s such a basic one—one of our regular ladies starts an easygoing thread. Just a simple "Hey guys, what are we all hoping for in this new year of 2012?" she asks.
I’m totally craving one—or maybe even a few—passionate nights with a guy I definitely shouldn't be messing with! 😉

What are you responding to?
Wow... What a wish! Honestly, aren't you just fearless? Just jumping right in and diving headfirst into bed with anyone like that? No hesitation at all. I mean, aren't you worried about catching something, or maybe that they won't actually look out for you or take care of you? Just curious!

I've only got one wish: I hope everyone else starts thinking as smart as you do!

And that was on a totally harmless topic! Seriously. But then, whenever things actually get heavy—like when we're talking about real fraud or those brutal, life-altering decisions—your judgment just kicks in. It’s constant. You don't just critique; you go way beyond.

I mean, seriously, the kind of garbage that was being posted and allowed there? It’s honestly sickening...

Just because you think it’s disgusting when a guy admits he cheated—because he’s torn between his wife and this new woman he’s actually falling for—doesn't mean we can just ban people from talking about it. It doesn't work like that! Every time someone even mentions promiscuity, you lose it. You get all worked up and start preaching, but honestly? I haven't seen any change in your attitude at all.

That doesn’t mean you should be okay with that kind of behavior. Honestly, most people on the forums over there aren't fans of it either. But even when they don't agree with what someone is doing, they don't just treat that person like some lost sheep crying out for help. They aren't about that life.

Honestly, that doesn't mean anything to me.

Nothing! I just want the whole thing.

A forum for us to hang out and actually read what everyone’s putting down!

And since I’ve already got two failed marriages under my belt...

Honestly, I might actually know how to

help people with this more than you guys do...

It doesn't seem like you even care. And bringing up two failed marriages in a family doesn't prove anything. For ŽuD maybe, but for LJES? Not at all.

And this is exactly why the bias regarding the LJES mods stays.
It’s hard to put into words just how much we don't care whether you believe in God, nothing at all, or even some Holy Shoe.
Your refusal to accept any lifestyle different from what you personally deem "moral," that whole "poor me, I'm being bullied" routine—which is totally far from the truth (I'm pretty sure the mods and admins have seen your old threads and deleted posts, along with everyone else's)—all of that, plus your inability to see where you're messing up forum etiquette while instead spinning conspiracy theories about moderators going on crusades just to target you specifically (interestingly, not anyone else), is a way bigger issue.

Looks like Smod already gave his take, so I'm done here. Admins?

Look, my conclusion is that immoral behavior was being permitted, since I've been warned a billion times for "moralizing," and I'm always told to stop this or that. I mean, honestly, it makes you wonder. Every single time I pointed out that it isn't right for someone to cheat, or lie, or mess around with marriage and family, there was a wave of forum users attacking me, followed immediately by your warnings telling me to stop lecturing everyone...

dustyranger64 said:The mods missed the mark on this one—honestly, they should've handed out more warnings and hit that ban button way before the halftime break!
Look, it’s not about picking on you. Not even close! It’s honestly just hoping that maybe—just maybe—it’ll finally click for you, you'll realize what you're doing wrong, and you can stop before things get messy.
Look, if you had come to us with a legitimate request to scrap this partial, we would have actually taken you seriously. But honestly? This whole thread is just a mess of fake claims, accusations, and baseless finger-pointing about persecution. It’s all noise. Because of that, the three LJES moderators have reached a consensus: your partial stays exactly where it is.
Just a few more details, besides the fact that the whole conversation is just one big, disrespectful mess:

And what about that... Allowed. It’s just plain wrong. Like, "cheat on your husband and you deserve..."—you know the kind of stuff people say. Total nonsense.

You need a catchy word.
Look, it’s not up to the mods or this forum to play moral police. If someone wants to cheat or back a shady decision, the moderators aren't going to step in and defend that behavior. Everyone has a right to their own opinion. Your take isn't "problematic" just because it's different from mine. You were only being problematic because you jumped into every single thread involving cheating or hookup culture just to lecture everyone else on their morals. Something extra, even when it wasn't even what we were talking about!

It’s such a basic one—one of our regular ladies starts an easygoing thread. Just a simple "Hey guys, what are we all hoping for in this new year of 2012?" she asks.
I’m totally craving one—or maybe even a few—passionate nights with a guy I definitely shouldn't be messing with! 😉

What are you responding to?
Wow... What a wish! Honestly, aren't you just fearless? Just jumping right in and diving headfirst into bed with anyone like that? No hesitation at all. I mean, aren't you worried about catching something, or maybe that they won't actually look out for you or take care of you? Just curious!

I've only got one wish: I hope everyone else starts thinking as smart as you do!

And that was on a totally harmless topic! Seriously. But then, whenever things actually get heavy—like when we're talking about real fraud or those brutal, life-altering decisions—your judgment just kicks in. It’s constant. You don't just critique; you go way beyond.

I mean, seriously, the kind of garbage that was being posted and allowed there? It’s honestly sickening...

Just because you think it’s disgusting when a guy admits he cheated—because he’s torn between his wife and this new woman he’s actually falling for—doesn't mean we can just ban people from talking about it. It doesn't work like that! Every time someone even mentions promiscuity, you lose it. You get all worked up and start preaching, but honestly? I haven't seen any change in your attitude at all.

That doesn’t mean you should be okay with that kind of behavior. Honestly, most people on the forums over there aren't fans of it either. But even when they don't agree with what someone is doing, they don't just treat that person like some lost sheep crying out for help. They aren't about that life.

Honestly, that doesn't mean anything to me.

Nothing! I just want the whole thing.

A forum for us to hang out and actually read what everyone’s putting down!

And since I’ve already got two failed marriages under my belt...

Honestly, I might actually know how to

help people with this more than you guys do...

It doesn't seem like you even care. And bringing up two failed marriages in a family doesn't prove anything. For ŽuD maybe, but for LJES? Not at all.

And this is exactly why the bias regarding the LJES mods stays.
It’s hard to put into words just how much we don't care whether you believe in God, nothing at all, or even some Holy Shoe.
Your refusal to accept any lifestyle different from what you personally deem "moral," that whole "poor me, I'm being bullied" routine—which is totally far from the truth (I'm pretty sure the mods and admins have seen your old threads and deleted posts, along with everyone else's)—all of that, plus your inability to see where you're messing up forum etiquette while instead spinning conspiracy theories about moderators going on crusades just to target you specifically (interestingly, not anyone else), is a way bigger issue.

Looks like Smod already gave his take, so I'm done here. Admins?

Fine, it's true, maybe I went overboard sometimes, but man, just think about it yourself—how many times have I been insulted by everyone just because I made a STATEMENT that cheating isn't okay, or things like that, while nobody else faced any consequences, yet all the heat gets directed at me... 😢

dustyranger64 said:The mods missed the mark on this one—honestly, they should've handed out more warnings and hit that ban button way before the halftime break!
Look, it’s not about picking on you. Not even close! It’s honestly just hoping that maybe—just maybe—it’ll finally click for you, you'll realize what you're doing wrong, and you can stop before things get messy.
Look, if you had come to us with a legitimate request to scrap this partial, we would have actually taken you seriously. But honestly? This whole thread is just a mess of fake claims, accusations, and baseless finger-pointing about persecution. It’s all noise. Because of that, the three LJES moderators have reached a consensus: your partial stays exactly where it is.
Just a few more details, besides the fact that the whole conversation is just one big, disrespectful mess:

And what about that... Allowed. It’s just plain wrong. Like, "cheat on your husband and you deserve..."—you know the kind of stuff people say. Total nonsense.

You need a catchy word.
Look, it’s not up to the mods or this forum to play moral police. If someone wants to cheat or back a shady decision, the moderators aren't going to step in and defend that behavior. Everyone has a right to their own opinion. Your take isn't "problematic" just because it's different from mine. You were only being problematic because you jumped into every single thread involving cheating or hookup culture just to lecture everyone else on their morals. Something extra, even when it wasn't even what we were talking about!

It’s such a basic one—one of our regular ladies starts an easygoing thread. Just a simple "Hey guys, what are we all hoping for in this new year of 2012?" she asks.
I’m totally craving one—or maybe even a few—passionate nights with a guy I definitely shouldn't be messing with! 😉

What are you responding to?
Wow... What a wish! Honestly, aren't you just fearless? Just jumping right in and diving headfirst into bed with anyone like that? No hesitation at all. I mean, aren't you worried about catching something, or maybe that they won't actually look out for you or take care of you? Just curious!

I've only got one wish: I hope everyone else starts thinking as smart as you do!

And that was on a totally harmless topic! Seriously. But then, whenever things actually get heavy—like when we're talking about real fraud or those brutal, life-altering decisions—your judgment just kicks in. It’s constant. You don't just critique; you go way beyond.

I mean, seriously, the kind of garbage that was being posted and allowed there? It’s honestly sickening...

Just because you think it’s disgusting when a guy admits he cheated—because he’s torn between his wife and this new woman he’s actually falling for—doesn't mean we can just ban people from talking about it. It doesn't work like that! Every time someone even mentions promiscuity, you lose it. You get all worked up and start preaching, but honestly? I haven't seen any change in your attitude at all.

That doesn’t mean you should be okay with that kind of behavior. Honestly, most people on the forums over there aren't fans of it either. But even when they don't agree with what someone is doing, they don't just treat that person like some lost sheep crying out for help. They aren't about that life.

Honestly, that doesn't mean anything to me.

Nothing! I just want the whole thing.

A forum for us to hang out and actually read what everyone’s putting down!

And since I’ve already got two failed marriages under my belt...

Honestly, I might actually know how to

help people with this more than you guys do...

It doesn't seem like you even care. And bringing up two failed marriages in a family doesn't prove anything. For ŽuD maybe, but for LJES? Not at all.

And this is exactly why the bias regarding the LJES mods stays.
It’s hard to put into words just how much we don't care whether you believe in God, nothing at all, or even some Holy Shoe.
Your refusal to accept any lifestyle different from what you personally deem "moral," that whole "poor me, I'm being bullied" routine—which is totally far from the truth (I'm pretty sure the mods and admins have seen your old threads and deleted posts, along with everyone else's)—all of that, plus your inability to see where you're messing up forum etiquette while instead spinning conspiracy theories about moderators going on crusades just to target you specifically (interestingly, not anyone else), is a way bigger issue.

Looks like Smod already gave his take, so I'm done here. Admins?

In that response of mine, I admit I went too far in the SECOND sentence, but honestly, I was already incredibly frustrated by everything that had been happening.

On the other hand, just think about it and tell me if I wasn't right. You go out with someone for New Year's, everyone is drunk, things are casual, and you have no idea if you're hooking up with someone who is sick or not... Honestly, as bad as it sounds, I really didn't mean anything by it... Because I see plenty of people around me who have suffered from that, and I don't want that for ANYONE...

I suppose I should say that I’m sorry if I ever went too far... maybe. 😢

dustyranger64 said:The mods missed the mark on this one—honestly, they should've handed out more warnings and hit that ban button way before the halftime break!
Look, it’s not about picking on you. Not even close! It’s honestly just hoping that maybe—just maybe—it’ll finally click for you, you'll realize what you're doing wrong, and you can stop before things get messy.
Look, if you had come to us with a legitimate request to scrap this partial, we would have actually taken you seriously. But honestly? This whole thread is just a mess of fake claims, accusations, and baseless finger-pointing about persecution. It’s all noise. Because of that, the three LJES moderators have reached a consensus: your partial stays exactly where it is.
Just a few more details, besides the fact that the whole conversation is just one big, disrespectful mess:

And what about that... Allowed. It’s just plain wrong. Like, "cheat on your husband and you deserve..."—you know the kind of stuff people say. Total nonsense.

You need a catchy word.
Look, it’s not up to the mods or this forum to play moral police. If someone wants to cheat or back a shady decision, the moderators aren't going to step in and defend that behavior. Everyone has a right to their own opinion. Your take isn't "problematic" just because it's different from mine. You were only being problematic because you jumped into every single thread involving cheating or hookup culture just to lecture everyone else on their morals. Something extra, even when it wasn't even what we were talking about!

It’s such a basic one—one of our regular ladies starts an easygoing thread. Just a simple "Hey guys, what are we all hoping for in this new year of 2012?" she asks.
I’m totally craving one—or maybe even a few—passionate nights with a guy I definitely shouldn't be messing with! 😉

What are you responding to?
Wow... What a wish! Honestly, aren't you just fearless? Just jumping right in and diving headfirst into bed with anyone like that? No hesitation at all. I mean, aren't you worried about catching something, or maybe that they won't actually look out for you or take care of you? Just curious!

I've only got one wish: I hope everyone else starts thinking as smart as you do!

And that was on a totally harmless topic! Seriously. But then, whenever things actually get heavy—like when we're talking about real fraud or those brutal, life-altering decisions—your judgment just kicks in. It’s constant. You don't just critique; you go way beyond.

I mean, seriously, the kind of garbage that was being posted and allowed there? It’s honestly sickening...

Just because you think it’s disgusting when a guy admits he cheated—because he’s torn between his wife and this new woman he’s actually falling for—doesn't mean we can just ban people from talking about it. It doesn't work like that! Every time someone even mentions promiscuity, you lose it. You get all worked up and start preaching, but honestly? I haven't seen any change in your attitude at all.

That doesn’t mean you should be okay with that kind of behavior. Honestly, most people on the forums over there aren't fans of it either. But even when they don't agree with what someone is doing, they don't just treat that person like some lost sheep crying out for help. They aren't about that life.

Honestly, that doesn't mean anything to me.

Nothing! I just want the whole thing.

A forum for us to hang out and actually read what everyone’s putting down!

And since I’ve already got two failed marriages under my belt...

Honestly, I might actually know how to

help people with this more than you guys do...

It doesn't seem like you even care. And bringing up two failed marriages in a family doesn't prove anything. For ŽuD maybe, but for LJES? Not at all.

And this is exactly why the bias regarding the LJES mods stays.
It’s hard to put into words just how much we don't care whether you believe in God, nothing at all, or even some Holy Shoe.
Your refusal to accept any lifestyle different from what you personally deem "moral," that whole "poor me, I'm being bullied" routine—which is totally far from the truth (I'm pretty sure the mods and admins have seen your old threads and deleted posts, along with everyone else's)—all of that, plus your inability to see where you're messing up forum etiquette while instead spinning conspiracy theories about moderators going on crusades just to target you specifically (interestingly, not anyone else), is a way bigger issue.

Looks like Smod already gave his take, so I'm done here. Admins?

Well, look, back when I first joined this forum, I was pretty much a complete novice. It had only been a few months, and I honestly didn't have a clue about the rules or how things worked here. But, I guess things change. I’ve been around for a year or two now, and I’ve gone through almost all the rule PDFs, so I intend to follow them strictly, God willing. I’m not some kind of unreliable person you can't reach an agreement with. As for those times when I was acting out and giving you guys a hard time... well, my apologies for that.

dustyranger64 Asks:
It doesn't seem like you actually care about this. Bringing up two failed marriages within a family just feels like a hollow point that doesn't mean anything at all. As for ŽuD, I suppose it carries some weight, but for LJES, it really means nothing.

Whatever. Honestly, I'd like to come back, and I can give you my word that whatever bullshit happened at the start won't be happening anymore.

dustyranger64 said:The mods missed the mark on this one—honestly, they should've handed out more warnings and hit that ban button way before the halftime break!
Look, it’s not about picking on you. Not even close! It’s honestly just hoping that maybe—just maybe—it’ll finally click for you, you'll realize what you're doing wrong, and you can stop before things get messy.
Look, if you had come to us with a legitimate request to scrap this partial, we would have actually taken you seriously. But honestly? This whole thread is just a mess of fake claims, accusations, and baseless finger-pointing about persecution. It’s all noise. Because of that, the three LJES moderators have reached a consensus: your partial stays exactly where it is.
Just a few more details, besides the fact that the whole conversation is just one big, disrespectful mess:

And what about that... Allowed. It’s just plain wrong. Like, "cheat on your husband and you deserve..."—you know the kind of stuff people say. Total nonsense.

You need a catchy word.
Look, it’s not up to the mods or this forum to play moral police. If someone wants to cheat or back a shady decision, the moderators aren't going to step in and defend that behavior. Everyone has a right to their own opinion. Your take isn't "problematic" just because it's different from mine. You were only being problematic because you jumped into every single thread involving cheating or hookup culture just to lecture everyone else on their morals. Something extra, even when it wasn't even what we were talking about!

It’s such a basic one—one of our regular ladies starts an easygoing thread. Just a simple "Hey guys, what are we all hoping for in this new year of 2012?" she asks.
I’m totally craving one—or maybe even a few—passionate nights with a guy I definitely shouldn't be messing with! 😉

What are you responding to?
Wow... What a wish! Honestly, aren't you just fearless? Just jumping right in and diving headfirst into bed with anyone like that? No hesitation at all. I mean, aren't you worried about catching something, or maybe that they won't actually look out for you or take care of you? Just curious!

I've only got one wish: I hope everyone else starts thinking as smart as you do!

And that was on a totally harmless topic! Seriously. But then, whenever things actually get heavy—like when we're talking about real fraud or those brutal, life-altering decisions—your judgment just kicks in. It’s constant. You don't just critique; you go way beyond.

I mean, seriously, the kind of garbage that was being posted and allowed there? It’s honestly sickening...

Just because you think it’s disgusting when a guy admits he cheated—because he’s torn between his wife and this new woman he’s actually falling for—doesn't mean we can just ban people from talking about it. It doesn't work like that! Every time someone even mentions promiscuity, you lose it. You get all worked up and start preaching, but honestly? I haven't seen any change in your attitude at all.

That doesn’t mean you should be okay with that kind of behavior. Honestly, most people on the forums over there aren't fans of it either. But even when they don't agree with what someone is doing, they don't just treat that person like some lost sheep crying out for help. They aren't about that life.

Honestly, that doesn't mean anything to me.

Nothing! I just want the whole thing.

A forum for us to hang out and actually read what everyone’s putting down!

And since I’ve already got two failed marriages under my belt...

Honestly, I might actually know how to

help people with this more than you guys do...

It doesn't seem like you even care. And bringing up two failed marriages in a family doesn't prove anything. For ŽuD maybe, but for LJES? Not at all.

And this is exactly why the bias regarding the LJES mods stays.
It’s hard to put into words just how much we don't care whether you believe in God, nothing at all, or even some Holy Shoe.
Your refusal to accept any lifestyle different from what you personally deem "moral," that whole "poor me, I'm being bullied" routine—which is totally far from the truth (I'm pretty sure the mods and admins have seen your old threads and deleted posts, along with everyone else's)—all of that, plus your inability to see where you're messing up forum etiquette while instead spinning conspiracy theories about moderators going on crusades just to target you specifically (interestingly, not anyone else), is a way bigger issue.

Looks like Smod already gave his take, so I'm done here. Admins?

Look, you can't just pin all the blame on me. Not when none of you actually bothered to sit down and have a conversation with me to point out where I went wrong, what I messed up, or even just try to find some common ground. I mean, I’ve been a moderator on forums before, so I know how this whole thing works. I'll admit it—I overstepped. I went too far. But honestly, you guys didn't give me, or even yourselves, a fair shot at fixing things, especially since I know I've crossed the line more than once. We're only human; we make mistakes and we regret them. I have zero intention of causing more trouble or being a nuisance here. If that means I don't write a single comment at all, then fine. All I really want is to be able to read the discussions, and that's it.

dustyranger64 said:The mods missed the mark on this one—honestly, they should've handed out more warnings and hit that ban button way before the halftime break!
Look, it’s not about picking on you. Not even close! It’s honestly just hoping that maybe—just maybe—it’ll finally click for you, you'll realize what you're doing wrong, and you can stop before things get messy.
Look, if you had come to us with a legitimate request to scrap this partial, we would have actually taken you seriously. But honestly? This whole thread is just a mess of fake claims, accusations, and baseless finger-pointing about persecution. It’s all noise. Because of that, the three LJES moderators have reached a consensus: your partial stays exactly where it is.
Just a few more details, besides the fact that the whole conversation is just one big, disrespectful mess:

And what about that... Allowed. It’s just plain wrong. Like, "cheat on your husband and you deserve..."—you know the kind of stuff people say. Total nonsense.

You need a catchy word.
Look, it’s not up to the mods or this forum to play moral police. If someone wants to cheat or back a shady decision, the moderators aren't going to step in and defend that behavior. Everyone has a right to their own opinion. Your take isn't "problematic" just because it's different from mine. You were only being problematic because you jumped into every single thread involving cheating or hookup culture just to lecture everyone else on their morals. Something extra, even when it wasn't even what we were talking about!

It’s such a basic one—one of our regular ladies starts an easygoing thread. Just a simple "Hey guys, what are we all hoping for in this new year of 2012?" she asks.
I’m totally craving one—or maybe even a few—passionate nights with a guy I definitely shouldn't be messing with! 😉

What are you responding to?
Wow... What a wish! Honestly, aren't you just fearless? Just jumping right in and diving headfirst into bed with anyone like that? No hesitation at all. I mean, aren't you worried about catching something, or maybe that they won't actually look out for you or take care of you? Just curious!

I've only got one wish: I hope everyone else starts thinking as smart as you do!

And that was on a totally harmless topic! Seriously. But then, whenever things actually get heavy—like when we're talking about real fraud or those brutal, life-altering decisions—your judgment just kicks in. It’s constant. You don't just critique; you go way beyond.

I mean, seriously, the kind of garbage that was being posted and allowed there? It’s honestly sickening...

Just because you think it’s disgusting when a guy admits he cheated—because he’s torn between his wife and this new woman he’s actually falling for—doesn't mean we can just ban people from talking about it. It doesn't work like that! Every time someone even mentions promiscuity, you lose it. You get all worked up and start preaching, but honestly? I haven't seen any change in your attitude at all.

That doesn’t mean you should be okay with that kind of behavior. Honestly, most people on the forums over there aren't fans of it either. But even when they don't agree with what someone is doing, they don't just treat that person like some lost sheep crying out for help. They aren't about that life.

Honestly, that doesn't mean anything to me.

Nothing! I just want the whole thing.

A forum for us to hang out and actually read what everyone’s putting down!

And since I’ve already got two failed marriages under my belt...

Honestly, I might actually know how to

help people with this more than you guys do...

It doesn't seem like you even care. And bringing up two failed marriages in a family doesn't prove anything. For ŽuD maybe, but for LJES? Not at all.

And this is exactly why the bias regarding the LJES mods stays.
It’s hard to put into words just how much we don't care whether you believe in God, nothing at all, or even some Holy Shoe.
Your refusal to accept any lifestyle different from what you personally deem "moral," that whole "poor me, I'm being bullied" routine—which is totally far from the truth (I'm pretty sure the mods and admins have seen your old threads and deleted posts, along with everyone else's)—all of that, plus your inability to see where you're messing up forum etiquette while instead spinning conspiracy theories about moderators going on crusades just to target you specifically (interestingly, not anyone else), is a way bigger issue.

Looks like Smod already gave his take, so I'm done here. Admins?

Well, Bliss gave her take, sure... But seriously, guys, maybe just think about this for a second and lift this
partial ban, because it feels completely pointless to me. I spend a lot of time here with
you all, yet I'm being restricted like some guy getting kicked out of a Starbucks for smoking.
Appeal for PDF blocking issue in Feedback & Suggestions ·
ironseal10 Asks:
What kind of nonsense is this? What on earth are you even talking about?😲 Maybe just ask them nicely without that usual arrogance of yours and that stubborn streak you always carry. They might actually listen to the request if you approach it that way. Since they already went out of their way to meet me halfway by lifting my ban, I don't see why they wouldn't do the same for you—especially since you're one of the most active members on this forum.

Just be charming, like you always know how to be, and everything will work out just fine. You have this lovely admin right there; just use all that charm of yours and wrap rustydrifter10 up in it.🤣

Well, what can I even say to you?

I guess I’m not exactly on the best terms with rustydrifter10 from the ŽUD right now.

I don't know. I guess I just don't understand why people get so worked up whenever someone shows up with a different opinion.

Cheating, lying, messing around with marriage, family, and all that other garbage... It’s just pathetic.

Because of that, rustydrifter10 gave me a partial on the ŽUD.

They were already on LJES before that happened. I mean, it was completely unnecessary.

And then they act all offended when I finally lose my temper. Honestly, man, I was getting written up for much less than this back in the day.

I did the absolute bare minimum while everyone else was busy insulting me and hurling insults my way.

They went after my wife, my life, everything... My God!

This really isn't right... 😢

Dammit, if I tell you things aren't going to be a mess anymore, I don't even know why I'd bother saying it.

It’s honestly hard to believe, but I guess they finally granted me access.

It’s like I’m some kind of junkie, a killer, a hitman, or whatever else you want to call me...

Completely unnecessary...

It isn't even about heritage from that region; it’s about being Canadian. 😍
Appeal for PDF blocking issue in Feedback & Suggestions ·
ironseal10 said:Henry Kim3, who do you think is actually allowed to mess with you? Just give me a name—I’ll go handle it myself—and let me know when my profile is cleared so I can get back to teasing you on LJES. Honestly, without you around, LJES just isn't nearly as much fun.🙂🙂🙂

Go ahead, keep making jokes... 😁 😁 😁

There is absolutely no way they’d let me back onto LJES...

Maybe if you just slit your wrists, perhaps out of some weird sense of nostalgia,

they might finally allow it... 😁 😁 😁

Dammit, what am I supposed to do now...!
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Harold Taylor6 said:Look, it’s been explained to you already—and if you look at your own history here (mind you, I have absolutely no clue what you were up to before this), it’s pretty obvious that your posts just don't follow the rules of conduct. But instead of fixing that, you keep using your faith as an excuse, claiming the moderators are out to get believers. Don't you see the paradox there? It’s not about whether you believe in God or not; it’s strictly about the way you write. You’re being flagged for your tone and style, yet you keep insisting it’s religious persecution, which simply isn't the case. It seems like you're really missing the point here...

Look, man, I used to talk normally here back when there was actually an opportunity for that.

It’s not my intention to argue or insult anyone.

And the fact that religion is involved, I emphasize that even more just because

I know the moderators don't like it. Because, honestly, I never

had anything against the mods until Phiber and the others started

lecturing me on every single post I made, which was basically just trying to get past those "she cheated on her husband, she deserved it" type comments and stuff,

and until all sorts of moderator nonsense started coming out regarding religion.

But whatever, maybe things have calmed down now. I haven't been around for a few months,

so I guess maybe it's different now. Who knows.

Listen, I am aware of how I come across, I definitely am, but brother, I don't see any other

way among a pack of wolves. If JUST SOMEONE

tries to communicate nicely with me, I would be even nicer in return. I tried,

and every single time I just got trashed so badly it was terrifying... 😢


Harold Taylor6 said:Look, it’s been explained to you already—and if you look at your own history here (mind you, I have absolutely no clue what you were up to before this), it’s pretty obvious that your posts just don't follow the rules of conduct. But instead of fixing that, you keep using your faith as an excuse, claiming the moderators are out to get believers. Don't you see the paradox there? It’s not about whether you believe in God or not; it’s strictly about the way you write. You’re being flagged for your tone and style, yet you keep insisting it’s religious persecution, which simply isn't the case. It seems like you're really missing the point here...

Yeah, I see it, man, and I've always been aware of it. But, what, if someone expects

me to beg, or to fall to my knees, or to step on myself, I'm not going to allow that.

You have no idea how many times I have ASKED to be spoken to NICELY

without insults, belittlement, and so on, but damn it,

it really doesn't work, as if I'm some kind of total piece of trash.


Harold Taylor6 said:Look, it’s been explained to you already—and if you look at your own history here (mind you, I have absolutely no clue what you were up to before this), it’s pretty obvious that your posts just don't follow the rules of conduct. But instead of fixing that, you keep using your faith as an excuse, claiming the moderators are out to get believers. Don't you see the paradox there? It’s not about whether you believe in God or not; it’s strictly about the way you write. You’re being flagged for your tone and style, yet you keep insisting it’s religious persecution, which simply isn't the case. It seems like you're really missing the point here...

As I mentioned above, I'm fully aware of all that, but there isn't any other way...!

You have to start with yourself; I started WITH myself, I tried to be nice,

even tried to reach an agreement, but it didn't work. The softer I was, the more

I felt like I was getting stepped on. Dammit...!


Harold Taylor6 said:Look, it’s been explained to you already—and if you look at your own history here (mind you, I have absolutely no clue what you were up to before this), it’s pretty obvious that your posts just don't follow the rules of conduct. But instead of fixing that, you keep using your faith as an excuse, claiming the moderators are out to get believers. Don't you see the paradox there? It’s not about whether you believe in God or not; it’s strictly about the way you write. You’re being flagged for your tone and style, yet you keep insisting it’s religious persecution, which simply isn't the case. It seems like you're really missing the point here...

Everything is perfectly clear to me, man, because some things here are just way too TRANSPARENT

to be that hard to figure out...
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Harold Taylor6 said:Don't you feel even a little bit embarrassed constantly playing the part of some pious, forgiving saint?
Suppose I’m not a believer at all—if I decided to give people a second chance, what would my justification be? Is it only believers who get to hand out second chances and offer forgiveness?
And what if I *am* a believer, but I choose not to grant that second chance? Does that just make me a "lesser" believer than you?

Honestly, your posts are about as effective as a cop trying to settle a dispute by hitting someone with a wet newspaper. From what I can see in just these few posts, you've basically boxed yourself into a corner.

I have nothing to be ashamed of, nor do I spend time dwelling on it, but I keep coming back to this point because I know our dear moderators mock all believers, much like most people here on this forum.

Harold Taylor6 said:Don't you feel even a little bit embarrassed constantly playing the part of some pious, forgiving saint?
Suppose I’m not a believer at all—if I decided to give people a second chance, what would my justification be? Is it only believers who get to hand out second chances and offer forgiveness?
And what if I *am* a believer, but I choose not to grant that second chance? Does that just make me a "lesser" believer than you?

Honestly, your posts are about as effective as a cop trying to settle a dispute by hitting someone with a wet newspaper. From what I can see in just these few posts, you've basically boxed yourself into a corner.

It isn't about who is a bigger or smaller believer. You don't need to be religious to be a decent human being with a good heart and be a wonderful person. But if you aren't a believer, that doesn't mean you have to hate believers and God. Honestly, there are plenty of people out there who just hate God and hate believers. They could easily go join a religious group. But that’s not the issue here; the issue is that I don't want this ban lifted for no reason, totally without cause. It’s truly incomprehensible, but whatever, what can you do...!

Harold Taylor6 said:Don't you feel even a little bit embarrassed constantly playing the part of some pious, forgiving saint?
Suppose I’m not a believer at all—if I decided to give people a second chance, what would my justification be? Is it only believers who get to hand out second chances and offer forgiveness?
And what if I *am* a believer, but I choose not to grant that second chance? Does that just make me a "lesser" believer than you?

Honestly, your posts are about as effective as a cop trying to settle a dispute by hitting someone with a wet newspaper. From what I can see in just these few posts, you've basically boxed yourself into a corner.

Well, the truth is, I didn't even expect the partial ban to be lifted, given what the moderators are like.

But oh well, what now. It doesn't matter; I'll just drop in occasionally to see what's going on.

All things considered, I know I've done some stupid things here, that I've been kicked out of the main area several times, and that I've said unnecessary things at times, just like anyone else would. But man, my word carries more weight than the attempt on the life of John Paul II.

Anyway, greetings to everyone and to the moderators.

Lock the thread...!
Appeal for PDF blocking issue in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Henry Hernandez7 said:You're a moderator, true enough, but did I miss it? Nah, didn't happen.

Well, you aren't going to look back.

I suppose I overreacted back when people started

attacking and belittling believers and all sorts of things here, but honestly, how could I not after everything these

moderators said and did... Anyone would lose their mind.

But, I guess, I am saying they have a chance to prove they are actually different

from how they acted back when that happened. But you see, they aren't giving themselves or

me a second chance.

Like I said, I'm not some kind of loser, and I don't want to get into a fight,

but man, I have too much education behind me to stoop to that level,

but when I see injustice, it just gets to me. It's unfortunate.

Anyway, whatever they decide, I sort of knew this was a futile attempt,

but well, hope dies last...!
Appeal for PDF blocking issue in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Joshua Jones13 said:Henry Kim3, first you go and open clones, and now you’re making posts like this just to prove you still don't get why those partial bans were handed out. Not to mention when you basically said you have zero intention of following the rules because they don't mean anything to you. I actually believe you, which is probably why I'm not voting to lift the partials either.

Well, after everything you people pulled on us regarding certain PDFs,

one might be tempted to say some pretty heated things, but I suppose I'll just move on.

And please, don't try to claim that I caused this or whatever,

just take a moment to reflect; you guys actually ADMITTED yourselves that in your little "moderator lounge"

you constantly insult the believers... For God's sake... And then, just because

I defended myself against YOU, who were CONSTANTLY attacking and degrading

and belittling me, I get banned without a second chance...

All I said was, give me a second chance, and if I fail to follow your rules,

then go ahead and issue a permanent partial ban. But what you're doing to me right now just

points to and confirms everything I've thought about you all up to this point,

because if someone came to me and politely asked for a break, saying they'd be careful, I would give them

a second chance. But I guess that's just because I'm a man of faith and I forgive,

and I also keep my word... Which means, if I said I WON'T

mess around on this forum, then I WON'T, and I promise that...!

So, do whatever you want.
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Sophia Thomas7 said:It’s exactly this kind of logic that keeps my answer a firm "no." The partial election at the university stays put.

Anyway, cheers. 🙂

Well, I suppose that is the core issue here—you simply don't allow people who hold more influence than you do

to actually express themselves...

Good grief, if you won't let me return and you insist on maintaining this permanent partial election, then I guess

it's just because you don't trust me. There isn't some concrete reason, really; it's just that

you happen to dislike my stance on all the nonsense being discussed and written here, and that's that.

Honestly, I always had this hope that it might be

POSSIBLE to have a normal conversation with you moderators, but it turns out that is just impossible.

Whatever, take care...
Appeal for PDF blocking issue in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Sophia Thomas7 said:Sure thing.

I’ve been thinking about this quite a bit lately, and honestly, I think we might be overcomplicating things. It feels like everyone is rushing to jump on the latest trend without actually stopping to see if it even works for them. I was talking to Henry Kim3 about this the other day, and he made a really solid point—we often get so caught up in the "newness" of a solution that we ignore the fact that our current setup isn't even broken. Why fix what isn't busted? It’s easy to get swept up in the hype, especially when people like Sophia Thomas7 start talking about how revolutionary a certain tool is. But at the end of the day, if it doesn't solve a practical problem in my daily routine, it’s just more noise. I know I’m probably being a bit cynical here, but I'd rather stick to what I know works than chase every shiny object that comes along. Does anyone else feel like they're constantly being sold a "better way" that ends up being more work?

You honestly call this an explanation?

Think about how many people have done much worse things—insulting others, making threats,

and I really don't need to list them all—yet you still ended up banning those specific users,

so, what exactly makes me so special? Is it because of my faith?

Just tell me straight that you dislike me and find me obnoxious, and let's leave it at that...!
Appeal for PDF blocking issue in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Sophia Thomas7 said:The answer is still no. This thread has become incredibly unproductive, and since the center tag makes everything unreadable anyway, I don't see any point in continuing this conversation here.

Good luck dealing with those mods.

Look, you’re really out of line here. You are intentionally and consciously trying to degrade me.

What exactly is your motivation here? What's the reasoning behind this? I guess it's just because you don't like it.

I suppose, given my faith, it seems to me...

I guess you have some other thoughts on this.

So, the way I figured it out, things around here...

I guess that degradation is based solely on that one specific stance.
Appeal for PDF blocking issue in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Henry Hernandez7 said:I’ve got no clue what Henry Kim3’s usual vibe is, though honestly, it doesn't really change my point.

If he was keeping things chill with the clone account and wasn't causing any drama, I don't see why they’d bother stripping his partial access.
The same goes if his communication style stayed consistent with his main handle—if there was no shift in behavior, then pulling those permissions seems pretty unnecessary.

That's all I've got.

Look, my way of communicating is pretty straightforward: I have zero patience for people who back that kind of nonsense. You know the type—people who say stuff like, "Oh, it’s totally fine to reinterpret religious icons to fit a modern agenda," or "Yeah, everyone should just cheat on their spouse, why not?" That sort of thing is just wrong. Honestly, if anyone wants to take issue with me for saying that, they can go ahead and deal with the consequences.

Let’s be realistic here. I ended up getting those blocks from both the IRS and the FTC because...
I just couldn't stand the way certain users on these forums were being insulted.
Look, I’ll admit it—I probably went overboard two or three times. It’s just that our moderators here tend to overreact to absolutely everything.
I feel like my every word is being scrutinized under a microscope, and they're just letting it happen.
In my opinion, he’s just spitting venom. It really got under my skin back then. Now, I guess it doesn't bother me quite as much.
Honestly, I couldn't care less. People can talk all they want; it doesn't change anything for me.
They’re really just tarnishing their own reputation at this point.

Henry Hernandez7 said:I’ve got no clue what Henry Kim3’s usual vibe is, though honestly, it doesn't really change my point.

If he was keeping things chill with the clone account and wasn't causing any drama, I don't see why they’d bother stripping his partial access.
The same goes if his communication style stayed consistent with his main handle—if there was no shift in behavior, then pulling those permissions seems pretty unnecessary.

That's all I've got.

I had that clone account running for maybe two months or so. I probably dropped about 50 comments on it, but honestly, I was mostly just lurking and reading everything being said. I didn't really feel any particular urge to actually get involved in most of the discussions.
I guess I’m just not really in the mood for that right now. I mostly just want to read and observe.
I suppose I’ve been watching how people write, how they carry themselves, and how they react to things lately. It's all quite something.

Henry Hernandez7 said:I’ve got no clue what Henry Kim3’s usual vibe is, though honestly, it doesn't really change my point.

If he was keeping things chill with the clone account and wasn't causing any drama, I don't see why they’d bother stripping his partial access.
The same goes if his communication style stayed consistent with his main handle—if there was no shift in behavior, then pulling those permissions seems pretty unnecessary.

That's all I've got.

I haven't really been communicating in this particular manner throughout those fifty or so posts. Actually,
I haven't even bothered getting involved in any of those arguments or pointless flame wars.
I really don't have the energy for all this. I’d just state my piece and leave it at that.
Whatever. I guess it doesn't really matter. I'll probably just say it again anyway: everyone deserves a second chance, and honestly, everyone is...
I suppose we’d receive them, except for those who committed truly CARDINAL offenses.
Mistakes happen. But seriously, man, blocking me for good just because I...
Maybe he was just trying to stand his ground after the mods had already pretty much written him off.
Defending it? Honestly, that’s just a waste of time...

I’ll say it again: just give me one more shot. If I end up talking out of turn or being a nuisance, then fine.
Just leave me out of it. That's fine by me. At least then I'll know for sure that I don't deserve third place.
Maybe there's a chance... I guess. 😉
Appeal for PDF blocking issue in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Sophia Thomas7 said:There are actually a few reasons. Before the split even happened, you were asked several times to tone down your rhetoric, but you just wouldn't listen. Then, once the split went through, you ended up opening a clone account.

So, honestly, I don't see any point in removing the partition from the main forum.

Yeah, I am, obviously. I don't really have anything to hide.

I suppose I could have kept opening them constantly, but I didn't. The thing is, I’m mostly just curious to see what happens.

He says that treating someone like an idiot isn't exactly classy. I mean, if I had been the one actually building this thing, maybe things would be different, but still... it’s just not right.

Look, there are issues here, obviously. But what really gets me is how certain behaviors were basically encouraged—you know, that kind of blatant immorality where people would say things like, "Yeah, cheat on your husband, go for it," or "Is there anything more satisfying than deceiving him and then just crawling back into bed next to him before sleep?" It’s just... I guess it’s wild. Maybe it was just the era, but it's still problematic.

Look, I’m sorry, but I was just sharing my opinion, just like everyone else here was doing.

I honestly don't see why my position is being viewed as such an aggressive stance.

It’s just degraded. Honestly, I don't even know how some of that filth was allowed to be posted there.

If they actually allowed that... it's just appalling. And then, inevitably, they'll come after me next.

I haven't looked at that PDF in about a year now, and I suspect it might be...

That's more than enough, and I honestly think it would be perfectly reasonable if they just let me do it.

Accessing those PDFs... honestly, I don't see how that matters to me.

Nothing, I just want to have the whole thing.

It’s basically a forum for people to see things as they truly are, and to actually read what’s being said.

And since I have two failed ones within my own family...

Maybe I understand people a little better now.

I suppose you all might be able to help me out with this question... if you're up for it. So, yeah.

I’d like to ask everyone for a bit of tolerance and some basic respect toward this forum member.

I’m not looking to be degraded like I’m some kind of bottom-feeder. Like I said, if...

I suppose I’ll just end up causing trouble again, so you might as well ban me permanently. Though, if I'm being honest, maybe they deserve a second chance.

Everyone else, including myself, for that matter—because I’m certainly no better or worse than anyone else out there.

I suppose there are those certain forum members who seem to have access to everything, almost as if they’ve been granted some kind of special favor.

And even their restrictions have been lifted... That's why I'm saying, it's fair.

I am asking that I be granted access to that specific section, so that we might finally move forward.

Look, I don't think we should all be acting this way for no reason. It’s just not right.

And I...
Appeal for PDF blocking issue in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Sophia Thomas7 said:It’s staying on the NYSE; there’s honestly just no logical reason to pull a partial liquidation now.

And why is that?

Now you're treating me like I'm the absolute LAST PIECE OF TRASH

on this entire planet...!
Appeal for PDF blocking issue in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Since quite a bit of time has passed since my access to those specific restricted files was revoked,

I would like to ask the administrators if they could grant me access to at least one

of those two PDFs—or perhaps both, which would be even better—because I really need to read that section

and I honestly have no intention of getting into any more arguments with

anyone, nor will I do so; I plan on following the community guidelines

to the best of my ability. I am just saying

that I would appreciate being allowed access

to that part of the forum, even if it is just for a trial period,

and if I start acting up again, you can just block me once more...

Thanks...!
GPU Buying Guide - (Read first post) in Desktops ·
swiftfalcon89 said:just download this utility and check under the motherboard section, though I suspect it's actually PCIe...
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

Unfortunately, I won't be able to get that done until Tuesday or maybe Wednesday at the earliest. My monitor is currently at the repair shop, so I'm just waiting on them to fix it...

And I suppose I'll need to pick up a new graphics card in the meantime...

Is it really impossible to give me an estimate without having every single specific detail regarding which GPU might work?
GPU Buying Guide - (Read first post) in Desktops ·
Larry Ortiz5 said:First, you should list your full specs. We need to know if you're running an AGP or a PCIe card.

Dammit... Could you please explain what they mean by AGP or PCIe? 😁

Look, I'm no IT expert, so I guess I'm a bit out of my depth compared to someone who actually knows this stuff... 😁

Anyway, I've got a Core i7, 2.4 GHz, 64-bit, 2GB DDR2, 500GB HDD, and right now I'm stuck using integrated graphics which is just absolute garbage... I honestly wonder how anyone gets anything done with a machine like this... 😁
GPU Buying Guide - (Read first post) in Desktops ·
Hey everyone, could someone please recommend a solid graphics card that I can find for under $83? My current one just died on me, so I need to pick up a replacement, but that's really my limit right now. If anyone has any suggestions or knows of a good deal, maybe you could even drop a link where it's easy to buy...

I would be very grateful for any help... 🙂

Thanks... 🙂
How to stay spiritually strong? in Spirituality ·
Kate Johnson14 said:Forgive me, but from what I gather, she’s saying everything in her life is falling apart and going south, and that’s why she’s losing her spirituality. That’s the exact question any person with a functioning brain would ask themselves if they were a believer: "How am I supposed to make ends meet in this recession? How do I deal with this job uncertainty when layoffs are happening every single day? Why are bad things happening to me if I haven't done anything to deserve them?"

But Henry Kim3, she needs a concrete solution to her problems, not just some hope being sold to her through prayer. Of course, the church—as an incredibly hypocritical institution—doesn't provide any actual financial assistance to its followers, even though that very same church owns a massive amount of real estate in this country. They offer prayer, words spoken during Mass... basically, comfort. It’s just like someone with a weak character who, crushed by problems they can't handle, feels so miserable and lost that they turn to drugs just to feel happy for a few hours while it kicks in... sure, it's a fake happiness, not the real thing, but in that specific moment, it feels real enough to them. The person offering them the drugs is a hypocrite, a fake friend, because a true friend helps you actually solve your problems instead of feeding you false hope and artificial bliss. It's the same with the church hypocritically offering PRAYER as comfort to people who are unemployed, people who can't afford to feed their families, or young people sitting on unemployment benefits hoping for a job while everything falls apart... all when they could take a portion of that enormous capital they possess and pay out to believers in their darkest hours, house the homeless, and actually help. A fake solution looks perfect to a naive person at first glance; it seems right within reach, and while they're being sold this hollow fix (in this case, via a priest's sermon during Mass), everything seems so solvable and wonderful... but once they step out of that church—that massive building that reeks of wastefulness and excess—and head back to their tiny rented apartment, or catch a bus or a subway home while the priest who gave them the "solution" in the form of prayer pulls away in a Tahoe, a Hummer, a Grand Cherokee, or a Mercedes ML (since those are clearly the preferred vehicles for priests in this country), maybe then things start to click for that naive soul... maybe they realize no one is actually helping them, they're just being fed false hope when they could be getting the tangible help they need to pull themselves out of this crisis. Like the Bible says: "Love your neighbor as yourself"... yeah, sure, and the naive person goes back to their cramped little rental on the bus, while the priest who recited those words drives his brand-new SUV to one of the luxury mansions the church owns across the country... Ah, what a beautiful way to show love for your neighbor...🤣 If it weren't so pathetic, tragic, and sad, it would almost be funny.🙂

And?

Kate Johnson14 said:Forgive me, but from what I gather, she’s saying everything in her life is falling apart and going south, and that’s why she’s losing her spirituality. That’s the exact question any person with a functioning brain would ask themselves if they were a believer: "How am I supposed to make ends meet in this recession? How do I deal with this job uncertainty when layoffs are happening every single day? Why are bad things happening to me if I haven't done anything to deserve them?"

But Henry Kim3, she needs a concrete solution to her problems, not just some hope being sold to her through prayer. Of course, the church—as an incredibly hypocritical institution—doesn't provide any actual financial assistance to its followers, even though that very same church owns a massive amount of real estate in this country. They offer prayer, words spoken during Mass... basically, comfort. It’s just like someone with a weak character who, crushed by problems they can't handle, feels so miserable and lost that they turn to drugs just to feel happy for a few hours while it kicks in... sure, it's a fake happiness, not the real thing, but in that specific moment, it feels real enough to them. The person offering them the drugs is a hypocrite, a fake friend, because a true friend helps you actually solve your problems instead of feeding you false hope and artificial bliss. It's the same with the church hypocritically offering PRAYER as comfort to people who are unemployed, people who can't afford to feed their families, or young people sitting on unemployment benefits hoping for a job while everything falls apart... all when they could take a portion of that enormous capital they possess and pay out to believers in their darkest hours, house the homeless, and actually help. A fake solution looks perfect to a naive person at first glance; it seems right within reach, and while they're being sold this hollow fix (in this case, via a priest's sermon during Mass), everything seems so solvable and wonderful... but once they step out of that church—that massive building that reeks of wastefulness and excess—and head back to their tiny rented apartment, or catch a bus or a subway home while the priest who gave them the "solution" in the form of prayer pulls away in a Tahoe, a Hummer, a Grand Cherokee, or a Mercedes ML (since those are clearly the preferred vehicles for priests in this country), maybe then things start to click for that naive soul... maybe they realize no one is actually helping them, they're just being fed false hope when they could be getting the tangible help they need to pull themselves out of this crisis. Like the Bible says: "Love your neighbor as yourself"... yeah, sure, and the naive person goes back to their cramped little rental on the bus, while the priest who recited those words drives his brand-new SUV to one of the luxury mansions the church owns across the country... Ah, what a beautiful way to show love for your neighbor...🤣 If it weren't so pathetic, tragic, and sad, it would almost be funny.🙂

And?

I can show you the path, but you actually have to walk it...!

Kate Johnson14 said:Forgive me, but from what I gather, she’s saying everything in her life is falling apart and going south, and that’s why she’s losing her spirituality. That’s the exact question any person with a functioning brain would ask themselves if they were a believer: "How am I supposed to make ends meet in this recession? How do I deal with this job uncertainty when layoffs are happening every single day? Why are bad things happening to me if I haven't done anything to deserve them?"

But Henry Kim3, she needs a concrete solution to her problems, not just some hope being sold to her through prayer. Of course, the church—as an incredibly hypocritical institution—doesn't provide any actual financial assistance to its followers, even though that very same church owns a massive amount of real estate in this country. They offer prayer, words spoken during Mass... basically, comfort. It’s just like someone with a weak character who, crushed by problems they can't handle, feels so miserable and lost that they turn to drugs just to feel happy for a few hours while it kicks in... sure, it's a fake happiness, not the real thing, but in that specific moment, it feels real enough to them. The person offering them the drugs is a hypocrite, a fake friend, because a true friend helps you actually solve your problems instead of feeding you false hope and artificial bliss. It's the same with the church hypocritically offering PRAYER as comfort to people who are unemployed, people who can't afford to feed their families, or young people sitting on unemployment benefits hoping for a job while everything falls apart... all when they could take a portion of that enormous capital they possess and pay out to believers in their darkest hours, house the homeless, and actually help. A fake solution looks perfect to a naive person at first glance; it seems right within reach, and while they're being sold this hollow fix (in this case, via a priest's sermon during Mass), everything seems so solvable and wonderful... but once they step out of that church—that massive building that reeks of wastefulness and excess—and head back to their tiny rented apartment, or catch a bus or a subway home while the priest who gave them the "solution" in the form of prayer pulls away in a Tahoe, a Hummer, a Grand Cherokee, or a Mercedes ML (since those are clearly the preferred vehicles for priests in this country), maybe then things start to click for that naive soul... maybe they realize no one is actually helping them, they're just being fed false hope when they could be getting the tangible help they need to pull themselves out of this crisis. Like the Bible says: "Love your neighbor as yourself"... yeah, sure, and the naive person goes back to their cramped little rental on the bus, while the priest who recited those words drives his brand-new SUV to one of the luxury mansions the church owns across the country... Ah, what a beautiful way to show love for your neighbor...🤣 If it weren't so pathetic, tragic, and sad, it would almost be funny.🙂

Please, spare me the rhetoric... 🙂

Kate Johnson14 said:Forgive me, but from what I gather, she’s saying everything in her life is falling apart and going south, and that’s why she’s losing her spirituality. That’s the exact question any person with a functioning brain would ask themselves if they were a believer: "How am I supposed to make ends meet in this recession? How do I deal with this job uncertainty when layoffs are happening every single day? Why are bad things happening to me if I haven't done anything to deserve them?"

But Henry Kim3, she needs a concrete solution to her problems, not just some hope being sold to her through prayer. Of course, the church—as an incredibly hypocritical institution—doesn't provide any actual financial assistance to its followers, even though that very same church owns a massive amount of real estate in this country. They offer prayer, words spoken during Mass... basically, comfort. It’s just like someone with a weak character who, crushed by problems they can't handle, feels so miserable and lost that they turn to drugs just to feel happy for a few hours while it kicks in... sure, it's a fake happiness, not the real thing, but in that specific moment, it feels real enough to them. The person offering them the drugs is a hypocrite, a fake friend, because a true friend helps you actually solve your problems instead of feeding you false hope and artificial bliss. It's the same with the church hypocritically offering PRAYER as comfort to people who are unemployed, people who can't afford to feed their families, or young people sitting on unemployment benefits hoping for a job while everything falls apart... all when they could take a portion of that enormous capital they possess and pay out to believers in their darkest hours, house the homeless, and actually help. A fake solution looks perfect to a naive person at first glance; it seems right within reach, and while they're being sold this hollow fix (in this case, via a priest's sermon during Mass), everything seems so solvable and wonderful... but once they step out of that church—that massive building that reeks of wastefulness and excess—and head back to their tiny rented apartment, or catch a bus or a subway home while the priest who gave them the "solution" in the form of prayer pulls away in a Tahoe, a Hummer, a Grand Cherokee, or a Mercedes ML (since those are clearly the preferred vehicles for priests in this country), maybe then things start to click for that naive soul... maybe they realize no one is actually helping them, they're just being fed false hope when they could be getting the tangible help they need to pull themselves out of this crisis. Like the Bible says: "Love your neighbor as yourself"... yeah, sure, and the naive person goes back to their cramped little rental on the bus, while the priest who recited those words drives his brand-new SUV to one of the luxury mansions the church owns across the country... Ah, what a beautiful way to show love for your neighbor...🤣 If it weren't so pathetic, tragic, and sad, it would almost be funny.🙂

Ugh, I feel like I've read this exact sentence about religion a thousand times already...

Kate Johnson14 said:Forgive me, but from what I gather, she’s saying everything in her life is falling apart and going south, and that’s why she’s losing her spirituality. That’s the exact question any person with a functioning brain would ask themselves if they were a believer: "How am I supposed to make ends meet in this recession? How do I deal with this job uncertainty when layoffs are happening every single day? Why are bad things happening to me if I haven't done anything to deserve them?"

But Henry Kim3, she needs a concrete solution to her problems, not just some hope being sold to her through prayer. Of course, the church—as an incredibly hypocritical institution—doesn't provide any actual financial assistance to its followers, even though that very same church owns a massive amount of real estate in this country. They offer prayer, words spoken during Mass... basically, comfort. It’s just like someone with a weak character who, crushed by problems they can't handle, feels so miserable and lost that they turn to drugs just to feel happy for a few hours while it kicks in... sure, it's a fake happiness, not the real thing, but in that specific moment, it feels real enough to them. The person offering them the drugs is a hypocrite, a fake friend, because a true friend helps you actually solve your problems instead of feeding you false hope and artificial bliss. It's the same with the church hypocritically offering PRAYER as comfort to people who are unemployed, people who can't afford to feed their families, or young people sitting on unemployment benefits hoping for a job while everything falls apart... all when they could take a portion of that enormous capital they possess and pay out to believers in their darkest hours, house the homeless, and actually help. A fake solution looks perfect to a naive person at first glance; it seems right within reach, and while they're being sold this hollow fix (in this case, via a priest's sermon during Mass), everything seems so solvable and wonderful... but once they step out of that church—that massive building that reeks of wastefulness and excess—and head back to their tiny rented apartment, or catch a bus or a subway home while the priest who gave them the "solution" in the form of prayer pulls away in a Tahoe, a Hummer, a Grand Cherokee, or a Mercedes ML (since those are clearly the preferred vehicles for priests in this country), maybe then things start to click for that naive soul... maybe they realize no one is actually helping them, they're just being fed false hope when they could be getting the tangible help they need to pull themselves out of this crisis. Like the Bible says: "Love your neighbor as yourself"... yeah, sure, and the naive person goes back to their cramped little rental on the bus, while the priest who recited those words drives his brand-new SUV to one of the luxury mansions the church owns across the country... Ah, what a beautiful way to show love for your neighbor...🤣 If it weren't so pathetic, tragic, and sad, it would almost be funny.🙂

And? Is there something wrong with that? Some people need comfort more than anything else in the world...!

Kate Johnson14 said:Forgive me, but from what I gather, she’s saying everything in her life is falling apart and going south, and that’s why she’s losing her spirituality. That’s the exact question any person with a functioning brain would ask themselves if they were a believer: "How am I supposed to make ends meet in this recession? How do I deal with this job uncertainty when layoffs are happening every single day? Why are bad things happening to me if I haven't done anything to deserve them?"

But Henry Kim3, she needs a concrete solution to her problems, not just some hope being sold to her through prayer. Of course, the church—as an incredibly hypocritical institution—doesn't provide any actual financial assistance to its followers, even though that very same church owns a massive amount of real estate in this country. They offer prayer, words spoken during Mass... basically, comfort. It’s just like someone with a weak character who, crushed by problems they can't handle, feels so miserable and lost that they turn to drugs just to feel happy for a few hours while it kicks in... sure, it's a fake happiness, not the real thing, but in that specific moment, it feels real enough to them. The person offering them the drugs is a hypocrite, a fake friend, because a true friend helps you actually solve your problems instead of feeding you false hope and artificial bliss. It's the same with the church hypocritically offering PRAYER as comfort to people who are unemployed, people who can't afford to feed their families, or young people sitting on unemployment benefits hoping for a job while everything falls apart... all when they could take a portion of that enormous capital they possess and pay out to believers in their darkest hours, house the homeless, and actually help. A fake solution looks perfect to a naive person at first glance; it seems right within reach, and while they're being sold this hollow fix (in this case, via a priest's sermon during Mass), everything seems so solvable and wonderful... but once they step out of that church—that massive building that reeks of wastefulness and excess—and head back to their tiny rented apartment, or catch a bus or a subway home while the priest who gave them the "solution" in the form of prayer pulls away in a Tahoe, a Hummer, a Grand Cherokee, or a Mercedes ML (since those are clearly the preferred vehicles for priests in this country), maybe then things start to click for that naive soul... maybe they realize no one is actually helping them, they're just being fed false hope when they could be getting the tangible help they need to pull themselves out of this crisis. Like the Bible says: "Love your neighbor as yourself"... yeah, sure, and the naive person goes back to their cramped little rental on the bus, while the priest who recited those words drives his brand-new SUV to one of the luxury mansions the church owns across the country... Ah, what a beautiful way to show love for your neighbor...🤣 If it weren't so pathetic, tragic, and sad, it would almost be funny.🙂

Pffft, that comparison is a total disaster, even if I guess I see where you're coming from... But, I suppose what you're trying to say is that there's something deeply pathetic about someone acting like they're going to Mass when they're actually just high on drugs. It’s just sad.

Kate Johnson14 said:Forgive me, but from what I gather, she’s saying everything in her life is falling apart and going south, and that’s why she’s losing her spirituality. That’s the exact question any person with a functioning brain would ask themselves if they were a believer: "How am I supposed to make ends meet in this recession? How do I deal with this job uncertainty when layoffs are happening every single day? Why are bad things happening to me if I haven't done anything to deserve them?"

But Henry Kim3, she needs a concrete solution to her problems, not just some hope being sold to her through prayer. Of course, the church—as an incredibly hypocritical institution—doesn't provide any actual financial assistance to its followers, even though that very same church owns a massive amount of real estate in this country. They offer prayer, words spoken during Mass... basically, comfort. It’s just like someone with a weak character who, crushed by problems they can't handle, feels so miserable and lost that they turn to drugs just to feel happy for a few hours while it kicks in... sure, it's a fake happiness, not the real thing, but in that specific moment, it feels real enough to them. The person offering them the drugs is a hypocrite, a fake friend, because a true friend helps you actually solve your problems instead of feeding you false hope and artificial bliss. It's the same with the church hypocritically offering PRAYER as comfort to people who are unemployed, people who can't afford to feed their families, or young people sitting on unemployment benefits hoping for a job while everything falls apart... all when they could take a portion of that enormous capital they possess and pay out to believers in their darkest hours, house the homeless, and actually help. A fake solution looks perfect to a naive person at first glance; it seems right within reach, and while they're being sold this hollow fix (in this case, via a priest's sermon during Mass), everything seems so solvable and wonderful... but once they step out of that church—that massive building that reeks of wastefulness and excess—and head back to their tiny rented apartment, or catch a bus or a subway home while the priest who gave them the "solution" in the form of prayer pulls away in a Tahoe, a Hummer, a Grand Cherokee, or a Mercedes ML (since those are clearly the preferred vehicles for priests in this country), maybe then things start to click for that naive soul... maybe they realize no one is actually helping them, they're just being fed false hope when they could be getting the tangible help they need to pull themselves out of this crisis. Like the Bible says: "Love your neighbor as yourself"... yeah, sure, and the naive person goes back to their cramped little rental on the bus, while the priest who recited those words drives his brand-new SUV to one of the luxury mansions the church owns across the country... Ah, what a beautiful way to show love for your neighbor...🤣 If it weren't so pathetic, tragic, and sad, it would almost be funny.🙂

So, you’re suggesting that Mass and prayer just provide a sense of false happiness? I guess that’s one way to look at it, maybe.

Kate Johnson14 said:Forgive me, but from what I gather, she’s saying everything in her life is falling apart and going south, and that’s why she’s losing her spirituality. That’s the exact question any person with a functioning brain would ask themselves if they were a believer: "How am I supposed to make ends meet in this recession? How do I deal with this job uncertainty when layoffs are happening every single day? Why are bad things happening to me if I haven't done anything to deserve them?"

But Henry Kim3, she needs a concrete solution to her problems, not just some hope being sold to her through prayer. Of course, the church—as an incredibly hypocritical institution—doesn't provide any actual financial assistance to its followers, even though that very same church owns a massive amount of real estate in this country. They offer prayer, words spoken during Mass... basically, comfort. It’s just like someone with a weak character who, crushed by problems they can't handle, feels so miserable and lost that they turn to drugs just to feel happy for a few hours while it kicks in... sure, it's a fake happiness, not the real thing, but in that specific moment, it feels real enough to them. The person offering them the drugs is a hypocrite, a fake friend, because a true friend helps you actually solve your problems instead of feeding you false hope and artificial bliss. It's the same with the church hypocritically offering PRAYER as comfort to people who are unemployed, people who can't afford to feed their families, or young people sitting on unemployment benefits hoping for a job while everything falls apart... all when they could take a portion of that enormous capital they possess and pay out to believers in their darkest hours, house the homeless, and actually help. A fake solution looks perfect to a naive person at first glance; it seems right within reach, and while they're being sold this hollow fix (in this case, via a priest's sermon during Mass), everything seems so solvable and wonderful... but once they step out of that church—that massive building that reeks of wastefulness and excess—and head back to their tiny rented apartment, or catch a bus or a subway home while the priest who gave them the "solution" in the form of prayer pulls away in a Tahoe, a Hummer, a Grand Cherokee, or a Mercedes ML (since those are clearly the preferred vehicles for priests in this country), maybe then things start to click for that naive soul... maybe they realize no one is actually helping them, they're just being fed false hope when they could be getting the tangible help they need to pull themselves out of this crisis. Like the Bible says: "Love your neighbor as yourself"... yeah, sure, and the naive person goes back to their cramped little rental on the bus, while the priest who recited those words drives his brand-new SUV to one of the luxury mansions the church owns across the country... Ah, what a beautiful way to show love for your neighbor...🤣 If it weren't so pathetic, tragic, and sad, it would almost be funny.🙂

When it comes to drugs, I suppose I can agree with that half-sentence... But as for meat? Please, don't even try to make me laugh.

Kate Johnson14 said:Forgive me, but from what I gather, she’s saying everything in her life is falling apart and going south, and that’s why she’s losing her spirituality. That’s the exact question any person with a functioning brain would ask themselves if they were a believer: "How am I supposed to make ends meet in this recession? How do I deal with this job uncertainty when layoffs are happening every single day? Why are bad things happening to me if I haven't done anything to deserve them?"

But Henry Kim3, she needs a concrete solution to her problems, not just some hope being sold to her through prayer. Of course, the church—as an incredibly hypocritical institution—doesn't provide any actual financial assistance to its followers, even though that very same church owns a massive amount of real estate in this country. They offer prayer, words spoken during Mass... basically, comfort. It’s just like someone with a weak character who, crushed by problems they can't handle, feels so miserable and lost that they turn to drugs just to feel happy for a few hours while it kicks in... sure, it's a fake happiness, not the real thing, but in that specific moment, it feels real enough to them. The person offering them the drugs is a hypocrite, a fake friend, because a true friend helps you actually solve your problems instead of feeding you false hope and artificial bliss. It's the same with the church hypocritically offering PRAYER as comfort to people who are unemployed, people who can't afford to feed their families, or young people sitting on unemployment benefits hoping for a job while everything falls apart... all when they could take a portion of that enormous capital they possess and pay out to believers in their darkest hours, house the homeless, and actually help. A fake solution looks perfect to a naive person at first glance; it seems right within reach, and while they're being sold this hollow fix (in this case, via a priest's sermon during Mass), everything seems so solvable and wonderful... but once they step out of that church—that massive building that reeks of wastefulness and excess—and head back to their tiny rented apartment, or catch a bus or a subway home while the priest who gave them the "solution" in the form of prayer pulls away in a Tahoe, a Hummer, a Grand Cherokee, or a Mercedes ML (since those are clearly the preferred vehicles for priests in this country), maybe then things start to click for that naive soul... maybe they realize no one is actually helping them, they're just being fed false hope when they could be getting the tangible help they need to pull themselves out of this crisis. Like the Bible says: "Love your neighbor as yourself"... yeah, sure, and the naive person goes back to their cramped little rental on the bus, while the priest who recited those words drives his brand-new SUV to one of the luxury mansions the church owns across the country... Ah, what a beautiful way to show love for your neighbor...🤣 If it weren't so pathetic, tragic, and sad, it would almost be funny.🙂

Look, after a statement like that, I guess there isn't much left for us to talk about.

Kate Johnson14 said:Forgive me, but from what I gather, she’s saying everything in her life is falling apart and going south, and that’s why she’s losing her spirituality. That’s the exact question any person with a functioning brain would ask themselves if they were a believer: "How am I supposed to make ends meet in this recession? How do I deal with this job uncertainty when layoffs are happening every single day? Why are bad things happening to me if I haven't done anything to deserve them?"

But Henry Kim3, she needs a concrete solution to her problems, not just some hope being sold to her through prayer. Of course, the church—as an incredibly hypocritical institution—doesn't provide any actual financial assistance to its followers, even though that very same church owns a massive amount of real estate in this country. They offer prayer, words spoken during Mass... basically, comfort. It’s just like someone with a weak character who, crushed by problems they can't handle, feels so miserable and lost that they turn to drugs just to feel happy for a few hours while it kicks in... sure, it's a fake happiness, not the real thing, but in that specific moment, it feels real enough to them. The person offering them the drugs is a hypocrite, a fake friend, because a true friend helps you actually solve your problems instead of feeding you false hope and artificial bliss. It's the same with the church hypocritically offering PRAYER as comfort to people who are unemployed, people who can't afford to feed their families, or young people sitting on unemployment benefits hoping for a job while everything falls apart... all when they could take a portion of that enormous capital they possess and pay out to believers in their darkest hours, house the homeless, and actually help. A fake solution looks perfect to a naive person at first glance; it seems right within reach, and while they're being sold this hollow fix (in this case, via a priest's sermon during Mass), everything seems so solvable and wonderful... but once they step out of that church—that massive building that reeks of wastefulness and excess—and head back to their tiny rented apartment, or catch a bus or a subway home while the priest who gave them the "solution" in the form of prayer pulls away in a Tahoe, a Hummer, a Grand Cherokee, or a Mercedes ML (since those are clearly the preferred vehicles for priests in this country), maybe then things start to click for that naive soul... maybe they realize no one is actually helping them, they're just being fed false hope when they could be getting the tangible help they need to pull themselves out of this crisis. Like the Bible says: "Love your neighbor as yourself"... yeah, sure, and the naive person goes back to their cramped little rental on the bus, while the priest who recited those words drives his brand-new SUV to one of the luxury mansions the church owns across the country... Ah, what a beautiful way to show love for your neighbor...🤣 If it weren't so pathetic, tragic, and sad, it would almost be funny.🙂

Are you even listening to yourself right now?

Kate Johnson14 said:Forgive me, but from what I gather, she’s saying everything in her life is falling apart and going south, and that’s why she’s losing her spirituality. That’s the exact question any person with a functioning brain would ask themselves if they were a believer: "How am I supposed to make ends meet in this recession? How do I deal with this job uncertainty when layoffs are happening every single day? Why are bad things happening to me if I haven't done anything to deserve them?"

But Henry Kim3, she needs a concrete solution to her problems, not just some hope being sold to her through prayer. Of course, the church—as an incredibly hypocritical institution—doesn't provide any actual financial assistance to its followers, even though that very same church owns a massive amount of real estate in this country. They offer prayer, words spoken during Mass... basically, comfort. It’s just like someone with a weak character who, crushed by problems they can't handle, feels so miserable and lost that they turn to drugs just to feel happy for a few hours while it kicks in... sure, it's a fake happiness, not the real thing, but in that specific moment, it feels real enough to them. The person offering them the drugs is a hypocrite, a fake friend, because a true friend helps you actually solve your problems instead of feeding you false hope and artificial bliss. It's the same with the church hypocritically offering PRAYER as comfort to people who are unemployed, people who can't afford to feed their families, or young people sitting on unemployment benefits hoping for a job while everything falls apart... all when they could take a portion of that enormous capital they possess and pay out to believers in their darkest hours, house the homeless, and actually help. A fake solution looks perfect to a naive person at first glance; it seems right within reach, and while they're being sold this hollow fix (in this case, via a priest's sermon during Mass), everything seems so solvable and wonderful... but once they step out of that church—that massive building that reeks of wastefulness and excess—and head back to their tiny rented apartment, or catch a bus or a subway home while the priest who gave them the "solution" in the form of prayer pulls away in a Tahoe, a Hummer, a Grand Cherokee, or a Mercedes ML (since those are clearly the preferred vehicles for priests in this country), maybe then things start to click for that naive soul... maybe they realize no one is actually helping them, they're just being fed false hope when they could be getting the tangible help they need to pull themselves out of this crisis. Like the Bible says: "Love your neighbor as yourself"... yeah, sure, and the naive person goes back to their cramped little rental on the bus, while the priest who recited those words drives his brand-new SUV to one of the luxury mansions the church owns across the country... Ah, what a beautiful way to show love for your neighbor...🤣 If it weren't so pathetic, tragic, and sad, it would almost be funny.🙂

Whatever... I didn't even bother reading the rest of that. Look, I'll just tell you this much: the CHURCH IS THE HOUSE OF GOD! Amen! It isn't some mere building or whatever else you're rambling about. So, maybe take your "wisdom" somewhere else instead of dumping it on me... and keep your frustrations to yourself, too.
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I honestly think the rules on the Religion board need a total overhaul regarding how individuals interact...

First off, what really gets under my skin is that there isn't a SINGLE thread dedicated solely to believers that doesn't get absolutely DESTROYED by atheists with their constant, unnecessary comments... I get it, they have their own opinions and all that, but they’re basically just here to stir the pot on those specific topics, mocking people and such. It's incredibly frustrating because you can't even have a decent discussion without it devolving into the same old repetitive argument: God doesn't exist vs. God exists...

We need to implement rules where provocation from either side is strictly forbidden, and everyone actually follows them—simple as that. It really makes no sense to treat creationists and others like rabid dogs fighting in the street... I'll admit, I've been one of them myself at times... But man, the whole religious section is starting to feel pretty toxic to me!

There are a few prominent atheists on here who really need to be watched closely; these people can't say a single word without being provocative, which is just sad, yet the moderators just let them get away with it, damn it!