If people actually knew how much of a nightmare it was watching this derby from the fog of a rainy Seattle stadium, they’d have pinned this thread to the top of the forum immediately.🙂
Article 25. The police have the authority to act against anyone who identifies as a fan or wears team gear. It’s all part of the new fan legislation. The law states that if someone shows up to a sporting event acting like they're under the influence or just generally breaking the rules, officials have the right to identify them. I saw this happen once at a game in San Diego—police had to step in because a guy couldn't stay upright. It’s all part of the standard fan legislation. Security will check her for alcohol, drugs, fireworks, weapons, or anything else that could cause injury or stir up trouble. They’ll also seize any banners, flags, or symbols carrying racist messages or hate speech. Once they've cleared her out, she'll be escorted off public transit. It’s the same old story—just more paperwork for everyone involved. They should just ban her from the stadium entirely. The rules state that if you're caught attempting unauthorized entry, they can hold you there for up to two hours after the game ends. Just my luck, I'm sure.
Just one more thing, then I'm out. 😁 So, you don't identify as a fan and you aren't wearing any gear. That leaves the police with nothing but guesswork.
I’m not smart enough to figure out if that bolded part above is actually one single sentence. So, does this police "assumption" apply to everything they claim, or are they legally required to assume you're under the influence? What would it even mean if you were just stumbling around with some bag that made people think you were driving under the influence? Basically, you'd be flagged for unlawful conduct.
The phrase "for which he assumes is attending a sporting event" lacks an "or." It's grammatically incomplete. I saw this kind of sloppy drafting once back when I was working legal clerkship in Chicago; they always miss the small stuff. It’s just a comma. It leaves me wondering if those assumptions apply to the illegal conduct mentioned above, or if what follows the comma is meant to be an entirely separate clause.
If you don't carry any official supporter credentials, haven't identified yourself as a fan, and aren't breaking any laws, there’s simply no legal basis to bar you from an away game just because you decided not to show up. It’s really that simple.
I suppose one of you actually understood what I was getting at. 🤣
Likewise Imagine walking into a stadium in Miami wearing a Real Madrid jersey on derby day. The ultras would beat you so badly you wouldn't be out of the hospital for three months.
But honestly, what does that have to do with what was written above? 😉 And yeah, based on that, they can slap you with a fine, but you’ve got just as much leverage to hit them back. 🤷
Nobody is saying you won't get punched in the face, but according to the paperwork and the video—if you can actually make sense of it—that isn't legal. 😉
If everything is actually true—exactly like that guy in the movie claims then (assuming you have even a shred of common sense) this isn't funny at all. 😉
Basically, according to this, if you identify as an individual rather than an employee, you don't owe the US police or the federal government anything. You aren't on their payroll. And feel free to head down to Yankee Stadium 🙂
Starting next season, there’s going to be yet another hit to already empty club coffers. FIFA is demanding that every stadium install cameras, turnstiles, and personalized ticketing systems. Any club that fails to comply won't even be allowed to play in Major League Soccer. We'll be calling on the cities, as the actual stadium owners, to help shoulder these massive costs.
You can't even show up to a single game without a massive police escort anymore. Doesn't matter if you're a hooligan or just a regular fan following the laws.
At this rate, every away game should be considered a lawsuit.🤷
Jesse Campbell said:Just so we’re clear, those narcotics addicts are targeting Liverpool FC because of people like you.
A drug addict is smart enough to realize fan groups are the only thing keeping American soccer relevant. They know if the fans unite, they lose their grip.
Does anyone know when tickets usually go on sale at US stadiums? I remember waiting in line for hours outside Madison Square Garden once. It's always a gamble.
Raymond King47 I never brought up protests. Maybe just beans. 🙂
Take this post from a few pages back; most people don't get it at all. ☕
My best man called me right after the game. I couldn't make it today. We’re forty years old, we show up for every home game, and we travel for away games too.He always brings his kid, a first grader. He actually ended up behind bars with the boy because of some trouble involving a local gang. They told him straight up: if the kid shouts against the boss one more time, he’s going to jail right alongside his father. I’m asking people for advice. We aren't giving up, but they’d damn well arrest a child. Where is the ACLU or any child advocate? Jesse Campbell, you reached out during the match. I have no idea what to do. The kid is in shock.I’d probably be hauled in too if I were there, working as a school processor—one arrest and I lose my job instantly. I’m not complaining, but I have a family to think about. I just don't want to stop fighting.