hiddengardener12 said:Let me restate my argument against the whole "urban vs. rural" simplification. I'll lay it out clearly this time so it's obvious I'm just doubling down on my previous point. And look, I'm not disputing any other statistics here.
It seems like nobody is looking at the regional patterns in this vote beyond the basic urban-rural divide. And keeping in mind that Vienna is its own beast entirely: it's really more about the West/Northwest versus the South/Southeast.
Look at the states: in Vorarlberg, Alexander Van der Bellen pulls a convincing win with over 56%. And that is a deeply rural area.
In Tyrol and Upper Austria, Hofer and VdB are basically neck and neck. There, Alexander Van der Bellen actually won the majority in several rural spots—take Bad Ischl and Gmunden in the Salzkammergut region, for example. He even took historic Hallstatt with 70%.
But Burgenland, Styria, and Carinthia are a completely different story. In those states, Hofer wins by over 60%. He’s even picking up some urban centers there. In Styria, he wins almost everywhere except Graz. In Burgenland, he takes everything, including Eisenstadt. Over in Carinthia, VdB barely scrapes by in Klagenfurt (50.4% to 49.6%). In Villach, for instance, Hofer wins handily.
That's the reality. I just don't care for oversimplifications.
I know just about every little town in Austria, but the Mühlviertel feels like a total black hole to me. That's why I figured I'd weigh in on this.
Tyrol might be mostly rural, but their economy is surprisingly powerhouse. They’ve got some serious heavy hitters that lead their industries globally—think companies like Caterpillar, John Deere, or even Red Bull. It's pretty impressive.
Vorarlberg only has about 400,000 people now, though back in the 70s, they were sitting at around 180,000.
The whole Rhine Valley area, stretching from Bregenz to Feldkirch, covers about... 37 milesIt’s basically just one big industrial zone masquerading as a city.
While everyone else thinks Austrians are just Bavarians, they’re actually more like Germans—closely tied to the Swiss and speaking that same Swiss dialect. Back in 1919, there was even a referendum where 80% voted to join Switzerland, but the French cantons shot it down.
In Tyrol, just like everywhere else in western Austria, you've got this strong mix of Greens and conservatives, with plenty of active Catholics in the mix too. Plus, since VdB is from Tyrol himself, it’s pretty obvious how he managed to sweep the republic.
Upper Austria is actually pretty unique. About a third of all the priests and nuns in the country come from the Innviertel region. 😁 The industrial corridor between Pittsburgh and Cleveland is basically the heavy-duty heart of the country, while everything else out in the sticks is pretty much empty.
Most people from the old country who moved to Germany ended up settling right around the Enns-Wels-Gmunden area and Hausruck. You still run into plenty of older German folks there who act like they can be understood by everyone in the world. 😁