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Religion classes in school - Megathread in Students & Teens ·
Hey everyone, could we please try to keep this thread focused on religious education in our local schools? I’d love to hear more from a parent's perspective.
Regarding things like church registries, politics, or specific theological definitions, let's move those discussions over to the other PDFs.
Religion classes in school - Megathread in Students & Teens ·
shadowcrane91 said:Look, as someone who actually practices their faith and hangs out in religious circles, I have never—and I mean *never*—heard anyone talking trash about people... not from adults, not even from kids.
So, if there are people out there being hateful, they definitely aren't actual believers; they're just "believers" on paper.

You really should take another look at your own posts. 😉

shadowcrane91 said:Well, in my opinion, going to a few church classes a couple of times in your life isn't nearly enough to actually learn your own faith...
If you really think that's sufficient—hey, good for you!

What, because a kid might pick up something wrong during those twelve years, we just scrap the whole subject??? Give me a break.

No one is suggesting a kid should go to Sunday school just three times; the idea is to have them attend two hours a week at the parish instead of the two hours currently spent on religious ed in public school.
Just like parents drive their kids to soccer practice, swimming, or language classes, if they are truly practicing believers, they could easily arrange for their children to attend religious instruction. It shouldn't be a burden if they genuinely care about passing down values they themselves struggle to teach.

Personally, I want my daughter to learn another language, and I don't find it hard to drive her there in the afternoons, even though I'd much prefer it were part of the school day.
It's also important to me that she plays a sport she loves and has talent for. I don't expect the school to add it to the official schedule or ask the Department of Education to fund it out of a tight budget, even though I'm sure plenty of kids would be interested, and it would be great for their mental health in the short and long term.

And no, I won't be enrolling my child in religious ed, because I simply don't need to. It's an elective, and as a parent, I don't particularly care for the curriculum.
I'm not exactly thrilled that someone is essentially babysitting my child for free during those hours. Nor am I happy having my child left to wander the halls alone.
And I certainly don't want my child stuck in a religious class just because there's nowhere else for them to go.

If it happens to be the first period, we'll both be happy because we get to sleep in a little longer.
But if it's mid-day or the last period (which is way more likely since not every grade can have first period), I really hope the school finds a productive way for them to spend that time—maybe learning a skill that I can't teach them myself.

During those two sessions a week, she won't have to lug that heavy backpack for three blocks, which is a win for her back. Plus, I'll save money by not needing to buy two extra book covers and two less sketchbooks, which is a win for my wallet.
On top of that, the city government that funds textbooks will end up saving a little bit on my kid, $20 so maybe that's enough to build another fountain in a local park.
School Reform: Thoughts? in Students & Teens ·
nimblelynx7 said:Quincy:
I don't even know where to start with this. Absolute nonsense. kaže:
How many hours would you even spend covering interest rates in an elementary school class?🍿
Whether you learn one thing or a hundred—it doesn't matter. It’s irrelevant. What matters is learning *this*. You can fail at trigonometry; nobody's kicking you out on the street just because you can't calculate a sine wave. But you mess up a loan, take out a mortgage at a certain interest rate, and fail to pay it back? Then you're out on the street. Period.

Is "school" really the right word for this nonsense? Or is that term strictly reserved for heavy-hitting topics—like Kenya's GDP, the total landmass of Tanzania, or the specific year Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart composed a symphony?

Maybe people wouldn't be rushing into banks for loans like they’re grabbing ice cream on a summer day if someone actually sat them down and showed them how to calculate what they'd actually owe after interest kicks in.

But we aren't really talking about interest rates here; it's about basic addition and subtraction.
You know, it's like if a candy bar costs $1.75, and someone has $20k, how many bars can they buy?
I'm pretty sure that's standard second-grade math curriculum in American elementary schools; if not first grade.
If someone didn't grasp that back then, they probably never will.
We deal with number lines all through high school, and it's baked into almost every math lesson, so people should be able to realize—and plan for—what it actually means to go into the red.🤔

It isn't just about the subject matter; it's about the process.
And I agree with you there—schools don't really focus on teaching that practical side.

nimblelynx7 said:Quincy:
I don't even know where to start with this. Absolute nonsense. kaže:
How many hours would you even spend covering interest rates in an elementary school class?🍿
Whether you learn one thing or a hundred—it doesn't matter. It’s irrelevant. What matters is learning *this*. You can fail at trigonometry; nobody's kicking you out on the street just because you can't calculate a sine wave. But you mess up a loan, take out a mortgage at a certain interest rate, and fail to pay it back? Then you're out on the street. Period.

Is "school" really the right word for this nonsense? Or is that term strictly reserved for heavy-hitting topics—like Kenya's GDP, the total landmass of Tanzania, or the specific year Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart composed a symphony?

Maybe people wouldn't be rushing into banks for loans like they’re grabbing ice cream on a summer day if someone actually sat them down and showed them how to calculate what they'd actually owe after interest kicks in.

If I recall correctly, even the most famous American mathematicians have been tricked into bad loans, including some folks over in Switzerland.
Maybe the problem goes a bit deeper than that?

I mean, if someone explained that a bank isn't a charity handing out free cash, but rather a place where you go to buy a product called a "loan"—just like walking into a Target to buy a pair of shoes—things might change.
I can agree that this should be part of Social Studies in elementary school, but more importantly, it should be a regular conversation between parents and their kids.

The thing that actually ties back to school is reading comprehension—being able to read through entire flyers and long contracts, especially all that fine print.

The issue is that in our textbooks, that fine print is often labeled as "for those who want to know more," so naturally, only the straight-A students bother reading it, maybe just to snag a higher grade.

Learning how to read for comprehension is a process too... and more often than not, it depends on the quality of the teacher you get in those early grades. It really comes down to luck, or how much effort the parents put in at home.
School Reform: Thoughts? in Students & Teens ·
😂

If we’re just looking at the core curriculum, all eight years of school cover math through various lenses—addition, subtraction, geometry (like floor plans), and so on. Then you get into interest rates and percentages around 6th or 7th grade.
I honestly don't know what else there is to learn!

Asheville is only mentioned for maybe an hour or two during the 8th grade. 🤷
So, it's not like people who made terrible decisions with Swiss bankers should be blaming history for their mistakes. 🤔

Oh, and we have religion classes throughout all eight years, which probably covers some moral ground, and maybe even lessons on greed or overindulgence when it comes to food or shopping... personally, I think that's plenty to prepare someone for adulthood, especially if they can handle basic math before they sit down across from a banker. 🥳
School Reform: Thoughts? in Students & Teens ·
Robert Rodriguez9 said:We had quite the celebration today. 😬
It was actually nice to see such a huge crowd for once.


It looks like some people still don't know the difference between a festival and a protest:

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School Reform: Thoughts? in Students & Teens ·
Ashley Bishop4 said:If they end up doing exactly what they’re doing on Facebook... ☕

Honestly, this little protest making all that noise about teachers at sixteen years old? It won't even get off the ground. 🤣

You'll have fewer people showing up than at a BlackRock meeting. 🙂

I'm just glad I didn't delete this post earlier.
I mean, a picture really does speak louder than any random comment. 😍

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Shout out to everyone who showed up!
School Reform: Thoughts? in Students & Teens ·
redridge13 said:Look at how the President is desperately trying to spin this mess to save face🙄

And don't even get me started on that pundit on CNN; I can barely stand listening to him🤦, isn't he just a complete moron?

I am seriously looking forward to the protest tomorrow! 🎉

You missed Lily Vuckovic too 🤮

See you all tomorrow
(did you guys learn the song yet? 🐔))
School Reform: Thoughts? in Students & Teens ·
Do you have any constructive thoughts on the reform?
I’m trying to ask—in a polite way, of course—what actually drives people to support this whole process?
Why do they feel such a strong need to make their voices heard on this specific issue?

Sure, we aren't nearly as organized or well-funded as an outfit like the ACLU, but I still have this naive, almost childlike hope that people will actually show up in the streets.
Real life, not just Facebook. 🤷
School Reform: Thoughts? in Students & Teens ·
Cleveland and Columbus are organizing shuttles over to Chicago

I’ve been a bit out of the loop lately, but I did spot Mark and the Secretary of Culture grabbing coffee earlier.

Stefi, I'm not sure exactly where you're located, but I'm thinking five friends could easily pile into a car and cruise to the nearest big city.
School Reform: Thoughts? in Students & Teens ·
Jason Ortiz5 said:Nothing like that happening in my little town, but I did at least make sure to sign the petition..

Maybe try joining forces with some bigger nearby cities
or just organize something yourselves.

There are plenty of cities on the list: New York, Chicago, Houston, Phoenix, Philadelphia, San Diego, St. Louis
someone else feel free to add more to the list
🎉

@dlapek, I’d honestly rather just delete your post (which is why I won't quote you 😬), because he clearly isn't going to figure this out on his own—it took him five whole days just to make an announcement—but his "superiors" or the school board officials might be able to help.

But hey, he's a "genius"... the reform is already running late, and he can't even string five coherent sentences together in five days.
And don't even get me started on the issue of people's paid expenses.
School Reform: Thoughts? in Students & Teens ·
crimsonfox26 said:If it’s happening on St, I’m definitely in 🙂

It’s actually happening in Los Angeles

https://www.facebook.com/events/649002665250994/
School Reform: Thoughts? in Students & Teens ·
redridge13 said:we had two preschool graduation shows lined up on that exact same day 😢

Maybe try emailing the daycare directly and ask if they can schedule it for a Thursday or Friday instead.
School Reform: Thoughts? in Students & Teens ·
Peter Doyle2 said:I guess I messed up. Honestly, I probably should have just kept my mouth shut. If this reaches any of my Facebook friends—and there are quite a few—then it’s already done.

Regarding parenting stuff, I saw an interesting link on Facebook from Ida Prester about some protest happening in New York City (not sure what the exact cause is, I haven't really been keeping up, and honestly, everything going on here in the States is already too much to process 😬). It looks like a massive crowd showed up—maybe 150,000 people—and most of them were parents with their kids. Everything went smoothly without any issues.

Of course I'm bringing my child.
The "Cost of Living" crisis has really hit families hard, which explains why there were so many people there with kids.
From where I was standing in the front lines of the counter-protest, I’d say only about one in five people looked like adults. The rest were just kids.

We have a preschool meetup this Tuesday, so I'm definitely going to get the other parents involved.
We really need to step up and take action on this.
There's simply no excuse for staying silent.
School Reform: Thoughts? in Students & Teens ·
We should probably give the kids a call.

Take a look at this:
SUBJECT: Support from the National Student Council of the United States for the entire team behind the Comprehensive Curriculum Reform Committee

PRESS RELEASE

The National Student Council of the United States hereby expresses its deep regret regarding the demand to dismiss the leader and members of the expert working group that developed the Comprehensive Curriculum Reform.

Every professor and specialist involved in this reform over the last 16 months—more than 400 people in total—poured an incredible amount of effort into crafting new curricular documents aimed at improving the educational system of the United States. It’s truly disheartening to see politics being pushed ahead of expertise. It’s sad that such a sincere attempt to build something better is ending this way. As the largest representative body for students in the USA, the National Student Council expresses great dissatisfaction with political interference in this reform. We believe this was one of the few truly positive initiatives in our country, and professional expertise should have taken precedence over political agendas.

We want to take this opportunity to once again thank the lead for the Comprehensive Curriculum Reform, Boris Jokić, as well as all the professors and specialists who worked so diligently to modernize our outdated education system. We sincerely hope that the work on this reform continues and isn't lost. To the political parties, we say: let the experts do their jobs. Try to secure a better future for us young people, because if things continue like this, the United States won't move forward, and our youth will just keep leaving the country.
School Reform: Thoughts? in Students & Teens ·
Wednesday, June 1st at 6:00 PM downtown
I really hope other cities start organizing similar events soon.

If we’re being logical about this, there should be way more people standing up for the right to life.
At the end of the day, we're talking about unborn babies who become actual human beings... people who deserve to grow up and spend 8, 12, or 16 years in school.

Besides, this isn't just about supporting educational reforms. It touches on a huge issue in our society: whenever experts try to implement something professional and transparent, politicians and trolls step in to sabotage it.

It’s ridiculous to think that a political party—which probably wouldn't even hit the required threshold if they ran independently—should be the one deciding the future of our education system. Why should expertise take a backseat to politics?
School Reform: Thoughts? in Students & Teens ·
Rusak is pushing back against the curriculum reform proposal that would allow high school juniors and seniors to choose their own electives. "What would that actually achieve?" she asked. "In ten or fifteen years, we'll just have an inflation of sociologists, philosophers, and humanities majors. What happens to our technical trades? Who’s going to pick the harder subjects if they can just opt for the easier ones?"

Honestly, if I had the choice, I would’ve picked physics, math, or computer science over history any day! 🤷
Talk about downplaying people's intelligence.

She's a perfect example of someone who clearly doesn't grasp what this reform is actually about.
The "inflation" of degrees that aren't in demand is already happening because people keep enrolling in fields that don't have jobs waiting for them.
If they implemented a real selection process for enrollment—setting clear boundaries, even if it meant letting some people go or reducing their hours—we wouldn't be facing this issue.
It’s the same story with pre-med or nursing programs; kids show up with wildly different levels of preparation because of the inconsistencies in how different schools teach the basics. They end up spending a fortune on private tutors and extra courses just to catch up. In my opinion, when you're talking about taxpayer-funded public education, that shouldn't be necessary. But of course, most people prefer things to stay exactly as they are.
School Reform: Thoughts? in Students & Teens ·
hiddendriver34 said:It looks like someone is trying to censor the "curriculum reform" based purely on political agendas—basically just stuffing the positions with political appointees and spitting out whatever serves their interests.

I feel terrible for LeBron James and everyone else who poured their heart and soul into this reform, but honestly, I’m shocked they were naive enough to forget exactly how Washington works. 😢

I was watching an MSNBC segment tonight, and honestly, that one guy Momir seems totally lost as to why he's even there. Watching him and Boris together, it feels like they’d reach an agreement in no time—basically, he’d just nod along to whatever Boris is saying and would probably support him in a heartbeat if he could.
(For real though, there's no money left in the Department of Education; they messed up the withdrawal from federal funds and lost track of travel orders and contracts, which is supposedly why they haven't made the necessary payments.)

It felt a bit like watching two hens gossiping at a hair salon over at Reed's.
Sabrina is offering her support simply because she's part of the opposition and thinks that's how things should work. Meanwhile, she's acting as Ilicic's spokesperson (since he clearly lacks the guts or the sense to face Jokić himself), rambling on like sixty open windows. She's throwing out all these empty platitudes that clearly aren't her own. Not only does it sound completely fake coming from her, but I don't even think she understands what she's saying. But hey, I guess you just have to listen to Ilicic and say whatever Oak demanded.🧐

Long story short, based on the show, the reform is being blocked by the ruling party, even though they only have one representative in Congress. 🙏 🙏 🙏
(They mentioned on the show that the rest of the patriotic coalition isn't interested or even informed, which, frankly, is a pretty accurate reflection of the state of our society right now.)

I quoted you because, well, I'm starting to realize exactly where I live.
People marching through our beautiful streets toward a Middle Ages lifestyle, waving little flags and popping bubbles, thinking they're happy just because they're celebrating "life and family."
School Reform: Thoughts? in Students & Teens ·
wanderingbadger44 said:Actually, that isn't how it works at all. You clearly missed the point of what I was saying.

I don't have the option to dodge my taxes, whereas the corporate world can—and frequently does.

Feel free to take shots at my sweet disposition if you need to; honestly, it doesn't bother me one bit.

It’s honestly a little surreal to me that I have to break down such fundamental concepts for grown adults. My approach is pretty simple: I aim to minimize stress, drama, and unnecessary friction at work. I consider myself a pragmatic organism that adapts to its environment, much like pure Darwinism in action. I perform my duties to the best of my ability and exactly as required, even in those moments where I am certain that following orders is actually counterproductive and that things should be done differently. But I refuse to burn myself at the stake of some grand Ideal.

I'm not under any illusion that I am superior, more brilliant, or more virtuous than anyone else just because I happen to be an educator, nor do I believe that being a teacher carries some noble, heavy burden to fight for a New World or a specific Order.

For real change to happen, society needs to genuinely crave actual knowledge and skill rather than just chasing grades. Until I see a true hunger for that, and until I am given the autonomy and the resources to actually implement it—and I truly believe that both the knowledge and the capability exist within me and my colleagues, even if exceptions exist in every field, much like how one difficult parent can skew the perception of an entire group—only then will I commit myself to that mission. Until then, I do what I am told and how I am told to do it. If I deviate, I face consequences. I have no desire for trouble, regardless of how much others might moralize about my choices.

To put it in perspective: I’m going to cut and color a client's hair exactly the way they ask for it.

Does anyone ever blame a stylist who looks at a client with already fried and damaged hair and calmly mixes a bleach that will undoubtedly weaken it even further? Does anyone expect a stylist to say, "Ma'am, that platinum blonde look doesn't suit your skin tone or your age, and since I am a trained professional, please listen to me and choose a shorter style that fits your face shape and hair quality; I'm sorry, but I refuse to bleach and flat-iron you because it goes against my professional ethics"?

If she actually said that, she wouldn't have a business left. So, she cuts and colors exactly as requested, makes sure to compliment the final result, and sends a satisfied customer out the door. Because, quite simply, she wants to survive.

I would never go to a stylist like that.
Believe it or not, there are stylists who—because they truly love their craft and want to do it right, and because they want to stay competitive in the market—will flat-out turn down a client's request. Even if it means losing money on that appointment, they won't do it because they refuse to let their work be sloppy or cause further damage to someone's hair.

That's a bad metaphor. ☕
School Reform: Thoughts? in Students & Teens ·
urbantinker8 said:I guess there were just way too many people aiming for those top-tier prep schools only to realize they couldn't actually pass the entrance exams, mostly because all those perfect high school GPAs didn't really mean much when it came down to the actual testing.
I suppose if they hadn't gone ahead and scrapped those entrance exams in favor of just looking at GPA, a huge chunk of these students—and by extension, their parents—might have ended up stuck in this cycle of lifelong frustration and genuine burnout, though I guess that's just how things tend to go sometimes when the system shifts.
I guess it all really started coming to a head when those petty extortion schemes and little five-dollar shakedowns just became so widespread, and now, well, I suppose we’ve finally arrived at this current mess.☕

But what even defines a "better" high school?
As far as I recall, entrance exams were phased out back when we were still part of the old USA era.😕
Was that done because parents were pushing for it? I wouldn't say so.
Actually, I know a ton of parents from my generation who fought against that change and wished the entrance exams would come back.

I personally had the "pleasure" of being there during the handover, where they announced to the 7th and 8th graders that they were suddenly looking for 5th and 6th graders instead. They told us, "We made this decision today because there are just too many of you." I don't remember anyone making a scene, except for a few people in line who just turned around and walked away, knowing they barely had enough points to qualify anyway.
Besides, high schools vary wildly in how they operate—from the teaching styles to the actual level of preparation you get. Given that, changing the enrollment process based purely on grades doesn't make much sense, and it hasn't for about 25 years now.

What really saddens me is what happened to the vocational and trade schools. I don't have much hope that things will change, because most of these schools still exist not to serve the job market, but to serve the current workforce.
They aren't opening new programs (or if they do, it's incredibly rare), and they aren't phasing out the old ones either.
Not to mention that some schools still require entrance tests for specific trades, while most just admit students based on GPA. It feels totally pointless when so many students finish high school only to realize they have zero talent or interest in that field.
A lot of kids end up in vocational tracks—sometimes with mediocre grades—just to stay within the school system, even though high school isn't strictly mandatory.
They have no connection to the craft, and they won't become skilled professionals (even though, realistically, the market is actually starving for skilled tradespeople).

And don't even get me started on how these trades are looked down upon in schools. It makes kids who might actually be interested feel like they're choosing a path of shame, with teachers implying things like, "If you can't hack it in academics, I guess you'll just be a plumber or a carpenter."
School closures/delays? in Students & Teens ·
Karen Richardson3 said:The one thing I just can't wrap my head around in this whole debate is how kids in basically every other developed nation start school at six, and honestly, more and more are even starting at five—mostly because of those generational shifts we all see happening—yet somehow here in America, we're still dragging things out until they're seven or older.

If she were to go to school in New Zealand—like what Susan James mentioned earlier—I’d honestly be totally fine sending her there with nothing but a 5G connection.
Honestly, I still feel like preschools are a much better option than elementary schools around here. In my experience, the early childhood centers just seem to offer a more nurturing environment before kids get thrown into the deep end of the formal school system.

I'm not entirely sure about my English, but back when I "lived" over there for about a month during the last century, my aunt had three kids. The youngest was always hanging around the house, while the middle one and the oldest were both off at school.
If my memory serves me right, she was only about six years old when she started middle school. Honestly, it felt just like our local preschools back home—they didn't really do anything differently. It was all about drawing, singing, and playing. There weren't any actual grades, just the occasional "good job" or a little sticker to keep them motivated. I'm pretty sure she wasn't even doing any real homework at home during that time. 🤷
Our youngest hasn't started preschool yet because, honestly, the childcare costs around here are just astronomical. We’re actually waiting until they turn five when kindergarten becomes mandatory and free. At that point, the only thing we'll have to worry about is paying for lunch, or we can just pack a bag from home.
I only used to see my older sister on the weekends—back when I was still out wandering around town all day. I have a feeling she might have been staying at some kind of boarding school, or maybe her school schedule just kept her busy from sunrise to sunset. 🤔

I’d love to hear from anyone who has some recent experience to share!

Joseph Stewart7 said:From what I can tell, those older kids are just calmer. I don't know how they act during class because the teacher doesn't make much of a fuss about it, but she seems pretty great. If she weren't so good—say she told me my son was constantly fidgeting while some other kid was perfectly still—it would bother me. My boy is 7, and if that other kid was 8.5, I’d definitely find that comparison unfair. And honestly, there are plenty of teachers out there who would make those kinds of comments.

As for the social side: My son used to bring quite a few classmates over to play, both boys and girls. Listening to them talk, I noticed a clear split; some are still obsessed with Mickey Mouse or Tom & Jerry, while others are already watching things like Victoria's Secret shows or Big Brother. I'm not trying to be a parent police officer or decide what's age-appropriate. I have no clue how much TV they actually watch, but I've observed how some kids get incredibly animated talking about how Jerry escaped, while others are deep in discussions about soap opera drama. Every single time, it turns out the younger kids are the ones watching cartoons, which makes them a bit more high-energy and restless (though still plenty ready for first grade).
Quincy:
I don't get the big deal about puberty either; what's the worst that could happen?
When I was a kid, I used to hang out with neighbors who were maybe two years older or younger than me. Those playdates started thinning out right around the time we hit puberty. It just felt like the gap between us had suddenly become massive. We actually started hanging out more again toward the end of high school. I can't quite put my finger on why, but at that stage of life, those couple of years really mattered.
Bottom line, nothing catastrophic is going to happen (and I wasn't suggesting it was a disaster when I posted). Likewise, nothing terrible will happen if a child starts school on time, provided no one besides the parents sees a reason to delay it.

It’s not just that older kids seem calmer; it’s more about the fact that they actually get enough chances to burn off energy. They have way more opportunities to move around and really satisfy that physical need to stay active.
As we get older, that constant need to be on the move starts to taper off a bit. I find myself gravitating more toward quieter, more low-key activities lately. But I’ve noticed something interesting: the more freedom they have to run around and burn off all that energy while they're young, the easier it is for them to actually sit still later on—whether they're sitting through a school lesson, watching a play, or catching a movie at the local cinema. It's like if they get it out of their system early, they're much better at finding that calm focus when it actually matters.

When it comes to their interests, my daughter is in a mixed-age group at her preschool, which covers everything from toddlers up to about seven-year-olds. It’s actually pretty interesting to watch—some things they all love doing together, while other activities really highlight how much they differ. Even within the specific age brackets, like the 3-to-4-year-olds versus the older 6-to-7-year-olds, you can see such a wide range in their hobbies and how they process things cognitively. It's a lot of different personalities under one roof! 🤷
Plus, the teachers organize all these group activities where everyone participates together. It honestly looks wonderful, and both groups end up benefiting from it.

I don't actually watch Violeta or Big Brother; we watch those at home, and I think that has much more to do with parenting than whether a child starts school early or not.
The whole debate about delaying school only really matters if you're worried about your kid just staying home and absorbing whatever random stuff they pick up. If you keep them in preschool a bit longer, you actually get more control over what they’re watching on TV.😂