Posts by cosmiccyclist8

5.45x39—basically the sledgehammer

mellowtiger83 said:Where is ALE the old Russian spy?

Why start mocking the peasants so early in the morning?

use Google 👍

that bullet was so inhumanly lethal it actually had to be banned 👍

5.45—that thing would go right through his chest and come out his heel. 🙏

I remember people used to call this older generation of cars "always hungry."
Whether it was some internal engine issue or something more obvious like a blown tire—it didn't matter. Whenever she ended up pulled over on the shoulder, it was always the same story: "Well, looks like she ran out of gas." 😁

Jason Campbell70 said:

Playboy: When you won The 1988 Japanese GP an you became a World Champion for The First time in Your Life , you claimed that in The Last Two corners Jesus Has appeared for you

Senna: I was just thanking Him for the victory. God gifted me a really hard-fought race where I managed to get victory in the penultimate race of the season as it is the dream of every driver. I was concentrating very much during praying and I started to turn into a long 180 degree corner when Jesus appeared to me. He was huge. He didn’t stand on the floor but He was floating in the air in his usual clothes, with his usual colour and with his figure surrounded by a ray of light. His whole body was rising up to the sky, he was filling the whole space. And while i Had this unbelieveble Vision i was driving a raca Car! Precisely, strongly. Moved as it has to be. Isn’t it crazy? Crazy!

Playboy: You didn’t see anything else?

Senna: Nothing else. It is undescribable. I was talking to Jesus and he appeared. He simply showed himself to me.

https://forums.autosport.com/topic/1...iew-from-1990/

Definitely a case for serious psychiatric evaluation.

to quote ruggedhawk20

''a total disconnection from reality. that was Senna's biggest issue. it's also what connects him to his fans—that disconnection from reality.''

cosmiccyclist8 said:

And what about this? Why weren't they allowed to just get back out there and race—unlike Mario Andretti? Is this actually "draconian"?

bunp

And what about this? Why weren't they allowed to just get back out there and race—unlike Mario Andretti? Is this actually "draconian"?

mellowtiger83 is basically saying everything is technically legal if you just bother to actually read the rulebook.

FIA Statement

Per the FIA Code of Conduct, specifically article 56, there's nothing wrong with a car getting hung up on the track and being cleared out by marshals. If the driver manages to get things moving again, they’re allowed to jump back into the race. Where things got messy here—and why it’s considered illegal—is that Ayrton Senna essentially "shortcut" the chicane. Following the crash, Ayrton Senna's car ended up nowhere near the actual section of the track where it was supposed to be.

is that the guy from Paris who scores a goal and then just stands there holding an AK-47?

please, someone say a Hail Mary for me🙄

ruggedhawk20 said:If Alain Prost had that huge rear wing to tweak at the last moment, Ayrton Senna could've used the slipstream on the descent to overtake him right before R130. Instead, because Alain Prost has less drag, his top speed on the straights is higher, leaving Ayrton Senna with zero slipstream advantage. That's the whole reason the overtake attempt happened at the slowest section of the circuit.

Well, now you just have to figure out how to actually get that through mellowtiger83's thick skull.

Jason Campbell70 said:He basically positioned himself just so Ayrton Senna could divebomb the inside line.

That kind of aggressive move on the inside works great—provided the guy ahead actually clears the racing line.
If he doesn't? Then you just look incredibly foolish... and end up wrecking yourself and the driver in front.

And another thing—if Alain Prost were being honest, there would be some hint that Ayrton Senna’s aggressive move would force him toward the middle of the track rather than the actual racing line. He even mentioned being worn out by Ayrton Senna's dangerous maneuvers, where he's always the one having to yield, claiming his door would be closed—but honestly, Ayrton Senna was just way too far back.

mellowtiger83 said:Per the FIA Code of Conduct, specifically Article 56, if a car becomes stranded on the circuit, marshals are permitted to clear it. Provided the driver manages to get the car moving again, they are allowed to rejoin the race. The issue here lies in the technicality that Ayrton Senna essentially "skipped" the chicane. Following the crash, Ayrton Senna's car failed to return to the specific section of the track where it originally went off.

Interesting read🙂, regarding how Ayrton Senna was penalized because he didn't push the car back to the exact spot of the accident. It would have been quite a sight to see someone trying to shove a car back into position right where drivers are slamming on the brakes at 180 mph for a chicane!

Then we get to the specifics of how the penalty was handed down.🙂

At the FIA hearing later in the same week, they didn't just uphold the disqualification; they slapped him with a $100,000 fine as well. On top of that, Ayrton Senna was handed a six-month suspension for reckless driving. The FIA actually labeled Ayrton Senna a 'dangerous driver.' Ultimately, though, only the fine stuck. Alain Prost walked away as the world champion.

Ayrton Senna ended up competing in the Adelaide Grand Prix, thinking that if he secured the win and passed the FIA inspections, the championship would be his. Instead, he dropped out on lap 13 following a collision, leaving him to watch his friend Thierry Boutsen take the victory.

When someone gets hit with a penalty like this for supposedly cutting a chicane, it makes you wonder: has anyone else ever been punished for skipping a chicane before or after this?
Nowadays, the worst you usually see for that is a five-second penalty, or if someone gains an advantage by cutting, they simply have to give the position back.🙂
They basically just threw that $100,000 fine at Ayrton Senna and yanked his license—just brilliant execution there.
It isn't worth pointing out that he wasn't putting anyone in danger.🙂.

I suppose cosmiccyclist8 and Jason Campbell70 could clarify things for us and explain exactly what happened here.

No, there wasn't even a hint of injustice toward Ayrton Senna. That's to say, without even getting into the intentional blocking of Alain Prost—which went unpunished—or the fact that Ayrton Senna was robbed of a title opportunity, because had he won in Australia, he would have been the champion under the rules at the time.

So, colleagues, what are your thoughts?

Roland Bruynseraede, director of the course:

Five years later, I’m sitting here thinking—maybe we actually screwed up. Maybe it was a mistake.
Maybe we should have just slapped a black flag on Ayrton Senna right then and there.
If things had gone that way, we probably would have saved ourselves a massive headache.
But instead, given just how much was riding on that duel, we actually took our time before making a call.
Maybe we should have been more strict.
Look, if I’m being honest—and looking back at everything now—that’s exactly how I see it.

Here are a few heartwarming moments for a change 😉>

jo ramirez

“Back at McLaren, Ron Dennis was always incredibly intense regarding trophies. He viewed them strictly as team property—so much so that he actually included clauses in driver contracts stating they weren't allowed to keep any silverware they earned. However, Ayrton Senna managed to insist on keeping his own trophies within his contract. To settle things, Ron had me track down the original manufacturers for every trophy just so we could have exact replicas produced. Ayrton told me, ‘Ensure mine is the genuine article.’ Meanwhile, Ron would snap, ‘Whatever you do, don’t let him have the real one.’ I ended up telling both of them they were getting the real thing, and honestly, I’m not about to spill the secret now on which one actually walked away with the original!

“On the other hand, Alain Prost never really cared for the trophies. His final victory for McLaren was Monza 1989, right after he had already committed to Ferrari. The crowd of tifosi surrounding the podium was chanting ‘copa, copa,’ so he simply tossed the trophy down to them. Naturally, they ripped it to shreds—one guy grabbed the handle, another snagged the lid. Ron was absolutely livid. He interpreted it as Alain Prost saying, ‘I don’t give a shit, I’m done with McLaren, I’m heading to Ferrari.’ In reality, Alain Prost didn't mean it that way at all; he just thought it was a classy gesture toward the fans.

Walter Anderson43 said:It honestly gives me chills to think that people like you aren't kept under strict supervision in an institution on this planet of monkeys.

Everything they said is actually true. Ayrton Senna could steal setups from Alain Prost. See, Senna was a driver who lived for the engine, whereas Alain Prost was all about the chassis. I mean, obviously, Alain Prost couldn't just swipe those Honda units that had "For Senna" written on them, but Ayrton Senna could easily copy an Alain Prost car setup.

It clearly got under Alain Prost's skin so much that at the last minute he’d start tweaking things on the car... sometimes he'd mess it up, and other times he'd hit the nail on the head.

Take that famous Suzuki race in '89—he actually told his technicians to secretly remove his Gurney flap behind Ayrton Senna's back, and it worked perfectly. It made the car faster on the straights, which was vital, since Ayrton Senna couldn't touch him in the corners... honestly, the only thing he couldn't account for was a desperate charge from Ayrton Senna; otherwise, he outsmarted him technically.

I’ve got a feeling Fio was probably tearing apart the Benetton chassis down to the last bolt—just because they couldn't find some specific parts elsewhere.

At the end of the day, you just look at the final standings—that erratic Benetton era wasn't really Hill's burden to bear. That was all before Flavio stepped in. Hill ended up losing out by a single point.

edit: Honestly, that Flavio guy always seemed to be running some kind of scheme.

Imola '89—that moment when the saint decided to completely ignore the non-aggression pact. 😁

I just really want to know what kind of apology he gave after the race. 😁 Probably something like "I saw a massive gap and I couldn't resist taking the shot." 🤣

Ugh, I need a translation again—my English is absolute garbage lately.
here's the post https://forums.autosport.com/topic/1...zuka/?p=253220

if anyone could translate this for me

It wouldn’t happen. Prost was World Champion, and Senna found himself with a burning sense of injustice. Those flames of personal indignation would continue to be fanned in his heart. That was the only place I could overtake,” he explained, “and somebody who should not have been there just closed the door and that was that. The results as they stand provisionally do not reflect the truth of the race in either the sporting sense or the sense of the regulations. I see this result as temporary.

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hey, can you translate this for me

Ayrton Senna snagged the 51st pole position of his career—an achievement that sat right at the heart of all the drama this weekend. For the last three F1 races held here, pole position at Suzuka had been positioned on the right-hand side of the track, completely off the actual racing line.

just look at the starting positions from the previous races at Suzuka👍

Hey Walter Anderson43, do yourself a favor and get up to speed: