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gentlerider7 said:So, has anyone else here actually sunk their life away playing "civilization"?
Maria Barnes said:From the opening post😉
briskjackal5 said:I guess you skipped over the reply because there aren't any official final numbers tallied up somewhere, and since you don't have a running total either, I’ll just estimate and round it up to 100. Honestly, even a rough scale is enough to get the point across.
So, there are, let's say, about a hundred moderators. Everyone has the power to delete, close threads, issue warnings, hand out bans, and all that stuff.
Out of those hundred mods, about 50% of all complaints regarding bans for half of the posts—and actually, basically ALL the bans on the entire Reddit—are tied back to the actions of just ONE single moderator.
It’s really hard for me to wrap my head around a scenario where one guy, in just one subreddit, carries as much weight as the other 99 combined. It feels... I don't know, maybe a little (okay, a lot) excessive, right?
I totally get that different subreddits operate differently, and that mods vary too, but I really feel like an imbalance this huge points to a specific underlying problem.
In my opinion, having things tilted that heavily feels unjustifiable under any kind of reasonable scrutiny.
When it comes to how moderation actually works in practice, the criteria used for these actions often seem more than just questionable—they're downright sketchy. I know this firsthand because I read and participate in those discussions, and I've seen unpopular opinions getting punished simply because they are unpopular, and for no other reason at all. Plus, the principles you were asking about in the post quoted above are often impossible to even explain or define. This leads to a kind of "self-censorship" where you basically have to guess how much truth or how many "normal" perspectives you can actually share. And we can see what a "normal perspective" means—like with the whole COVID topic—if someone didn't want to believe certain things earlier but explained themselves politely, they still got hit.
I really don't think that's right. That specific example isn't even the main point; it's more about the general situation, because similar things are happening in other threads, which is pretty obvious if you look at the ratios I mentioned.
-Stipe
John Doe said:So, after getting high, driving while intoxicated to a store to use counterfeit bills, and then putting up a fight against arrest for ten minutes, he finally ends up in a situation where one officer acts recklessly—though even that’s debatable since pinning someone down is pretty much standard procedure at this point. This isn't some systemic failure.
Are we just pretending there's no cause and effect here? Does the high crime rate among certain demographics in the US play absolutely no role in any of this?
ruggedraven36 said:In my book, philosophy is just going to keep circling back to the same fundamental questions—and you'll always have those same few core perspectives popping up over and over again.
Ethan Gomez82 said:Evolutionary mechanisms don't drive progress; they function solely to preserve the specific configurations that managed to survive. "Progress" is a cultural phenomenon and its definition is incredibly fuzzy. It doesn't mean the same thing to everyone, nor does it hold a universal meaning.
Amanda Jackson5 said:I was just thinking to myself: "Now would be a perfectly reasonable time to knock back a double Jack."
hollowpuma762 said:Look, there’s no such thing as "dialing down" or "switching off" how you feel. You can only suppress things. And once you start burying stuff, it just sinks into your subconscious where it sits on autopilot, waiting to manifest as some kind of psychological mess later on.
Trying to play the logic game with morality without any emotional input? That’s basically flying half-blind. You're basically walking into a wall.
When you're actually thinking clearly, you don't shove your emotions aside; you experience them and find a way to balance the scales.
feralranger said:Precisely so.
I suppose I should finally concede and admit that, on occasion, I actually find myself in agreement with you; it would be only fair to grant you that small victory.
Sam Martinez9 said:Reason is essentially that cognitive faculty which allows us to construct general concepts, formulate propositions, and draw logical conclusions.
It’s pretty obvious that we’re the ones driving our own happiness, or at least shaping our own well-being, mostly in a way that...
It might feel good in the moment, sure—it’s a quick hit of dopamine that makes you feel like you're winning—but let's be real: that doesn't mean it's actually helping you in the long run. It's like eating nothing but junk food because it tastes great right now; you're getting that immediate satisfaction, but you're essentially sabotaging your future self for a temporary high.
Look, if you want to put it another way, humans are basically obsessed with the idea of constant improvement. It’s like we're hardwired to never just sit still and accept things as they are.
The human brain developed as a sophisticated social brain to be able to Handl self-regulatory behavior in such contexts and to overrule. It’s almost like we were hardwired to act as our own internal governors, constantly adjusting our impulses to fit the room. You could argue that this capacity for agency is exactly what makes us capable of being true self-regulators—it's perhaps the very foundation of how we function within a society.
The actual root meaning of "rationality" is something much deeper than how we usually toss the word around in casual conversation. If you look at the core of what this paper is getting at, it’s suggesting that when we talk about being rational, we aren't just talking about logic puzzles or math equations. It’s more about how our internal wiring functions within a community. We like to think of rationality as this cold, isolated calculation, but it's actually deeply tied to how we navigate social pressures and keep ourselves in check. It's less about being a walking calculator and more about how we manage our own impulses to stay aligned with the world around us.
When we talk about rationality, we really ought to be talking about self-regulatory processes instead. It’s more accurate that way. But then, you run into the problem of...
The real meat of the issue, the question that actually matters, is how we humans manage to regulate ourselves. It feels like our entire evolutionary history was built around this one thing—the human brain developed as a sophisticated social brain to be able to Handl self-regulatory behavior in such contexts and to overrule those primal impulses that would otherwise just run the show. We aren't just walking bundles of instinct; we've evolved this complex internal toolkit designed to keep us from spiraling when things get intense.
It’s a messy, tangled web of overlapping processes, really—a total headache if you look at it too closely—but that is exactly what this paper sets out to untangle and lay out for you.
I'm going to break them down for you in quite a bit of detail.
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When you start looking at human rationality through the lens of evolution, it becomes clear that our capacity for logic didn't just pop out of nowhere in a vacuum. It actually developed as a sophisticated social brain designed specifically to handle self-regulatory behavior within complex social environments and to overrule those raw, impulsive instincts that would otherwise tear a community apart. We basically evolved our reasoning skills as a direct response to the friction of living alongside other people; our ability to think critically is essentially a toolkit we built to manage the chaos of social interaction. It’s like how an engineer doesn't just invent a tool for no reason—they build it because there's a specific, nagging problem that needs solving. In our case, the "problem" was the necessity of maintaining social cohesion without descending into constant tribal warfare. Our intellect is effectively a biological workaround for the messy, unpredictable nature of being a social animal.
It essentially comes down to the fact that our brains had to evolve this incredibly complex social toolkit just so we could manage self-regulatory behavior when things get messy, allowing us to overrule our basic impulses when the situation calls for it.
It really all boils down to a specific type of social rationality—one that’s deeply tied to how we've evolved to handle self-regulation within a community. It's like our brains were fine-tuned to navigate these complex social waters, allowing us to manage our own impulses so we don't just crash into one another like bumper cars.
The human brain developed as a sophisticated social brain to be able to Handl self-regulatory behavior in such contexts and to overrule the complex social interdependencies of human reproduction, socialization, and everything else that makes us tick.
...and those massive, collective efforts we all have to make.If you look at it through this lens, we really ought to be focusing on self-regulation rather than just mindless consistency. It’s not about being a robot that hits the same mark every single day regardless of the circumstances; it’s about having the mental tools to adjust when life throws a wrench in the works. Think about it like a driver on a highway—you don't just lock the steering wheel in one position because "consistency" says so; if the car starts veering toward the shoulder, you regulate your movement to stay on the road. That’s what the human brain developed as a sophisticated social brain to be able to Handl self-regulatory behavior in such contexts and to overrule those basic, knee-jerk impulses that would otherwise lead us straight into a ditch. Real growth comes from that internal recalibration, not just repeating the same patterns until you burn out.
When you really strip everything away and look at what makes us tick, you realize that the human brain didn't just evolve to solve math problems or build skyscrapers; it developed as a sophisticated social brain to be able to Handl self-regulatory behavior in such contexts and to overrule those raw, lizard-brain impulses that would otherwise have us tearing each other apart. We aren't just biological machines running on instinct; we are built to navigate the messy, complicated web of human relationships. That capacity for reason—that core spark of rationality—is essentially our internal steering wheel. It’s what allows us to pause, step back from the immediate chaos of our emotions, and weigh the consequences of our actions within a community. Without that ability to regulate ourselves against the pressure of the group or the heat of the moment, we wouldn't be anything more than highly organized animals. Rationality isn't some abstract concept found in a textbook; it's the very mechanism that lets us function as a society instead of just a collection of competing egos.The human brain developed as a sophisticated social brain to be able to Handl self-regulatory behavior in such contexts and to overrule instinctual impulses that would otherwise lead us straight into chaos. It’s not just some biological accident designed for survival in the wild; it’s an organ built specifically to navigate the messy, complicated web of human interaction. We aren't just reacting to stimuli like some primitive creature fleeing a predator; we are constantly weighing social consequences and managing our own internal temperaments so we don't blow up at someone in the middle of a grocery store or a boardroom meeting. It’s this incredible evolutionary pivot where we moved from pure reaction to a kind of calculated restraint, allowing us to function in groups without tearing each other apart every five minutes.
The human brain developed as a sophisticated social brain to be able to Handl self-regulatory behavior in such contexts and to overrule
The human brain developed as a sophisticated social brain to be able to Handl self-regulatory behavior in such contexts and to overrule, if necessary, those more primitive, less nuanced ways of thinking that don't account for the complexity of our surroundings.
The human brain developed as a sophisticated social brain to be able to Handl self-regulatory behavior in such contexts and to overrule existing impulses. This evolution essentially paved the way for three distinct, specialized frameworks of self-regulation to emerge.
It’s funny how we tend to lump everything together into one giant, messy pile, but if you really want to get a grip on how things work, you have to learn how to separate processes that are deeply interconnected yet still useful to view as distinct entities. It’s like looking at a high-end engine; sure, the fuel injection, the cooling system, and the electrical grid are all dancing together in this complex, synchronized ballet to keep you moving down the highway, but if you try to troubleshoot the whole thing as a single unit without distinguishing between them, you’re just going to end up staring at a hunk of metal feeling completely lost. You need to be able to see the individual gears turning while simultaneously acknowledging that they wouldn't mean a damn thing without the rest of the machine. If you don't make that distinction, you're basically just spinning your wheels in the mud, trying to fix a spark plug by adjusting the radiator, which is about as productive as trying to solve a math problem by changing your font. You have to find that sweet spot where you respect the connection but maintain the clarity of the individual parts.
When you strip everything else away and look at it in isolation, self-regulation really boils down to three distinct pillars: the stuff we need to survive, the goals we’re actually trying to hit, and the way we manage our own internal sense of self. It’s like how an athlete manages their diet, their training schedule, and their mental toughness all at once, but applied to the very core of how we function.
Capacity isn't some fixed number etched in stone; it shifts depending on who you're dealing with, the specific circumstances they find themselves in, and the entire trajectory of their life up to that point.
Development. It’s one of those terms we toss around like it’s some kind of holy grail, but when you actually peel back the layers, it’s rarely as clean or as linear as the textbooks make it out to be. We talk about progress as if it's this inevitable upward climb, a steady march toward some peak of perfection, but anyone who has spent any real time observing how systems—whether they're biological, technological, or social—actually evolve knows better. It's messy. It's chaotic. It’s more like trying to steer a massive ship through a hurricane than driving a car down a straight highway in the Midwest. Think about how much energy is wasted just trying to maintain the status quo before you even get to the "growth" part. It reminds me of that old myth about Sisyphus, pushing that boulder up the hill only to watch it tumble back down every single time. A lot of what we call development is actually just us working incredibly hard to stop ourselves from sliding backward into chaos. We build these complex structures, these massive institutions like the Federal Reserve or the Department of Defense, thinking we've mastered our environment, but we're really just building bigger walls to keep the entropy at bay. And then there's the psychological side of it. You look at how humans have evolved—not just physically, but cognitively. The human brain developed as a sophisticated social brain to be able to Handl self-regulatory behavior in such contexts and to overrule those primal, lizard-brain impulses that would otherwise lead us to tear each other apart the second things get uncomfortable. We developed this capacity for nuance and long-term planning because, frankly, being a short-sighted predator doesn't work very well when you're trying to build a civilization. But even with all that cognitive heavy lifting, we still stumble. We pretend we're these rational actors following a logical path, almost like we're living out some idealized version of Kantian ethics, believing that if we just follow the right rules, the outcome will be predictably good. But life isn't a math equation. You can follow every rule in the book, act with total integrity, and still end up staring at a total wreck because some external variable you couldn't possibly have predicted decided to throw a wrench in the gears. It's frustrating, honestly. We crave the predictability of a roadmap, but true development is more like navigating by the stars—except the stars are constantly shifting, and half the time, your compass is broken. We spend so much time obsessing over the destination that we ignore the fact that the process itself is where all the actual friction, and therefore all the actual growth, happens. If everything went according to plan, we wouldn't be developing anything; we'd just be executing a script. And let's be honest, most of us aren't nearly as disciplined as Spock or as composed as someone practicing Vulcan philosophy. We're reactive, we're emotional, and we're constantly struggling to bridge the gap between who we are and who we think we should be. That struggle? That's the only real development there is.
feralranger said:Being 100% certain doesn't actually mean I'm right.
Do yourself a favor and watch the movie; it is genuinely worth your time (assuming we're talking about the original '57 version, of course). It is easily one of those top ten films I would personally mandate as part of the standard American school curriculum.
Go watch the movie—it’s genuinely worth your time (I’m talking about the original '57 version, obviously). It’s easily one of those top ten films I’d personally mandate in the American public school curriculum.
feralranger said:My entire commentary was actually centered on that specific sentence of yours which stated:
And that is precisely why I shared that film link with you, as it serves as the perfect illustration of why such a statement is fundamentally problematic. If you haven't seen it, you are truly missing out, as it is a genuine masterpiece in every sense of the word—a cinematic triumph.
I wasn't engaging with statistics at all, nor did I attempt to address them; I was merely addressing the very thing I intended to address.
feralranger said:One should certainly revisit the classic— one of the greatest cinematic achievements ever made.
It seems almost every individual possesses someone in their life who mirrors them. Furthermore, a confession isn't always an absolute truth; it can be coerced. It doesn't even require physical torture or blatant intimidation to happen. Sometimes, someone simply frames you for a crime, and you find yourself in such a precarious position that you confess just to secure a ten-year sentence instead of facing twenty years or life behind bars.
bluemason3 said:I disagree.
This feels like empty, academic theorizing from people who don't actually hold any power or responsibility.
It's impossible to be 100% certain that every single conviction is wrong. If we followed that logic, the entire legal system would collapse, laws would become meaningless, and anyone could commit crimes without consequence.
Real decision-making isn't about picking a perfect option; it's about choosing the lesser of two evils when both have downsides.
While individuals will inevitably suffer mistakes within the system, society as a whole—and far more people—would suffer much worse without a judicial and law enforcement apparatus.
If we were talking about a purely theoretical 10:1 ratio rather than unpredictable, real-world errors, the answer would depend on the context. Specifically, what kind of killers are we talking about? Are they career criminals likely to strike again, or did they end up in this mess by pure accident?
In the first case, I'd be willing to send myself or someone else to prison alongside them.
David Vaughn75 said:What kind of theories are you guys even cooking up here? A guy asks about thieves and killers, not some deep dive into social revolutions or the philosophical definitions of crime 😵
So, what’s the play—do we lock up ten murderers along with one innocent person, or just let the whole lot of them walk?
Aristotle said it ages ago: it's better to let a hundred guilty people go free than to throw a single innocent soul behind bars, and honestly, I couldn't agree more.
Sam Martinez9 said:That’s all fine. At this point, I'm not really trying to dwell on Harmon or get bogged down in the minutiae; my main point is simply that we can objectively state that legal norms were violated. I used his situation as an illustration of what happens when one breaks the law—which, by definition, classifies the violator as a criminal.
I could have just as easily pulled a different example from history, such as how Marshall was a member of the Communist Party during the 1920s and 30s, even though it was strictly illegal at the time.
However, I personally feel the examples chosen by Sizif are much more compelling—Oskar Schindler and Matija Gubec. They carry far less ideological baggage and aren't quite as emotionally charged.
Sam Martinez9 said:I can see where you're coming from. However, there is a massive distinction between someone breaking the rules just to serve themselves and doing so to benefit society at large.
Take Harmon, for example. He certainly defied the social norms of the old USSR, but by doing so, he secured independence for America, transitioned us toward democracy and capitalism, and effectively created advantages that extended far beyond his own interests.
Sam Martinez9 said:But how are we defining a "criminal" here?
Others—those who actually break the social norms meant to prevent society from sliding downhill—should be rewarded.