Posts by darkpilot9
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The name Real Madrid as a football club identity is a relic of communist engineering. I honestly can't recall if any club used the name Real Madrid before communism swept through Europe. Perhaps some minor workers' athletic association.
Back in the days of the USSR, the name Real Madrid—given what the club represented for its city—failed to capture its intended essence: serving as a symbol for its Moscow role models and the communist ideal of an electric sports society. Why didn't anyone think to call a club "Real Madrid" in, say, Belgium?
Eventually, people grew accustomed to the name. It wasn't overnight, mind you; it took time. And it certainly wasn't out of any respect for the Russian model. Practically speaking, the name is punchy, impactful, and works perfectly for chanting in a stadium.
That said, switching the name to strictly "Brooklyn Dodgers" would likely have been embraced back in 1991. I say "likely." Some geniuses decided on the contradictory hybrid "Brooklyn Dodgers Građanski," and everything just fell apart.
The name "USA," under the circumstances of an independent USA, was just as poor a choice as "Brooklyn Dodgers Građanski," aside from being forced upon us. In the USSR, it might have made sense, but the totalitarian system made it impossible. It would have overemphasized the club's national component. Since 1991, we’ve had our own country, our own league, and our own national team, so that emphasis isn't what it once was.
The fans want "Real Madrid," and it is only right that they keep it.
Let me reiterate: the topic here is "exaggerate a sports personality."
Michael Jordan is one of the greatest basketball players to ever live—that is a FACT, and it isn't an exaggeration.
Jordan plays through a 104-degree fever; Jordan dunks over Eaton just because people mocked him for dunking on shorter players; Jordan struggles at the free-throw line; Jordan wins a championship and sprints to the locker room alone with the trophy because it’s his father's day; Jordan has a perfect family life; Jordan is a master at golf and baseball; Jordan would be a champion on any team; Jordan played in college ball; if he played today, Jordan would be dropping 100 points a game; Jordan single-handedly led the North Carolina Tar Heels to a title; Jordan single-handedly led Chicago to a title; Jordan invented long basketball shorts; Jordan jumps the highest because he wears Air sneakers; Jordan is the gold standard for style and conduct... All of this is just marketing and media hype designed to manufacture a superhuman out of Jordan. And that is precisely what makes him an exaggerated sports personality.
Jason Fisher78 said:Without Pippen 0, they have zero titles; with him, they have six. ☕
Pippen was an incredible player, yet he remains completely overlooked even today. Look at Kobe Bryant—he managed to secure championships even without Shaquille O'Neal. The real question is whether Michael Jordan could have actually pulled it off without Pippen.
rowdytinker3 said:That’s true. I personally couldn't stand the Chicago Bulls or Jordan. But just because I disliked them doesn't mean I'm going to spin nonsense like Rodman was the reason he secured three titles.
Slavko, the sound of a lighter flicking followed by a cough into the mic🤣🤣🙏
The argument isn't about proving Jordan wasn't a great player; it's about debunking the myth that he was some sort of superhuman. We've been bombarded with that narrative for decades, and frankly, it's still happening today. As darkwolf61 pointed out quite eloquently, there's a reason we fall for it.
My point above was that every single move he made—not just on the court, but in his private life—was glorified to an extreme degree. That is where Jordan is overrated. He is undoubtedly one of the greatest players to ever step onto a court, but he isn't a god. He had elite teammates, a world-class coach, and, perhaps most importantly, a masterclass in public relations.
rowdytinker3 said:Look, I honestly couldn't care less about the media hype, his PR machine, or his personal life. I only care about those 48 minutes on the court. And in that timeframe, the man is simply incomparable. Period. I'm done talking about it.
The topic is literally titled "Overhyped sports personalities." That’s a much broader concept than just the 48 minutes of gameplay you're focusing on, wouldn't you agree?😉
Carl Mendoza4 said:That’s exactly how it sounds.
It reminds me of a buddy of mine who lived for Kemp; he practically developed an ulcer just watching NBA broadcasts.😁
Does anyone else remember those old NBA broadcasts?
Just like how Blažičko used to drive people crazy with Senn, Slavek was a hundred times worse with his relentless cheering for the Chicago Bulls. He’d constantly drone on about how Jordan—whom he’d scream about as "MAJKLLLLL"—was the greatest red-clad dominant force of all time.
Back then, people would complain about the local network and vent about that biased commentary. I’ll never forget Slavek actually saying during a broadcast, "I hear some viewers are complaining that we're rooting for the Bulls. WELL, WHO ELSE WOULD WE ROOT FOR!? Because of Kuki, because of Dukan (who was a big deal, a scout 🙄), because of Michael"...
Honestly, he was enough on his own to infuriate the audience and turn everyone against Chicago, even if the sound of his lighter clicking near the microphone was actually kind of charming.
rowdytinker3 said:http://bleacherreport.com/articles/4...jordan-is-king
The evidence is right there.
As for Kobe Bryant, Jordan never played on a roster as stacked as these Lakers. When the Lakers pulled off those first three titles during the Bryant era, the undisputed leader and 3x Finals MVP was Shaquille O'Neal. Kobe was essentially the second option. Jordan was never anyone's second option.
Look, I see what you're doing. You're quoting an article that relies entirely on stats. By that logic, Bill Russell is untouchable. Did he play in a different, easier era? Fine, then Kobe is playing in a different era than Jordan. Do you honestly believe basketball isn't faster, stronger, and generally more demanding today than it was in, say, 1998? Especially considering we now recruit talent from all over the world.
Comparing the quality of the Bulls to the Lakers—especially these Lakers without Shaquille O'Neal—is highly debatable, but that’s your take. Personally, I think Jordan wouldn't have won a single championship without Scottie Pippen.
Michael Jordan is undeniably a legend. One of the absolute greatest to ever play the game.
On the flip side, when we talk about him being "overrated," we shouldn't just be debating his actual talent—which is clearly elite—but rather the massive, suffocating hype machine built around him.
You could argue that Michael Jordan became the most successful sports brand in history (trailing only someone like Tiger Woods 😁), during an era where sports marketing hit a fever pitch that hasn't really cooled down since.
There was this relentless attempt to turn Jordan into some kind of superhuman being in every possible aspect of life, which can be incredibly grating. It’s clearly rubbed Jason Fisher78 the wrong way. Every single move he made on the court was scrutinized and documented in hyper-detail, even long before he started stacking up NBA rings, which is essentially the only metric that matters in the NBA.
Jordan plays through a 104-degree fever; Jordan dunks over Eaton because critics mocked him for dunking on shorter players; Jordan misses free throws while blindfolded; Jordan wins a championship and sprints to the locker room alone to celebrate Father's Day; Jordan has the perfect family life; Jordan is a god at golf and baseball; Jordan would be a champion on any team; Jordan could win collegiate basketball tournaments; if he played today, he'd be dropping 100 points a game... you get the idea. It’s a mountain of hyperbolic nonsense.
In that sense, Jordan is overrated. He isn't a superhero. While Bill Russell and Kobe Bryant are certainly in his tier of greatness, they don't deal with this level of obsessive glorification. You might argue that you can't compare Russell to Jordan, but you can absolutely compare Kobe to Jordan. So, tell me: who is more glorified, Kobe or Jordan?
Sick Brothers: just look at Borna (especially that final part where they mention... "Vanja called me from Aspen"...)😂
The idea that you'll lose all your gains after just a few months away from the gym might be more myth than reality. It really comes down to how you built your foundation and your individual genetics. I lifted for a few years before heading off to serve in the military; even after six months without hitting the weights, I didn't just lose everything overnight.
I’m convinced that if you build your physique naturally, you can pack on enough high-quality muscle mass to prevent a rapid decline when you take a break.
If you put in the work with quality training, you're going to see quality results.
Besides, there's no point in bickering. The guy was just looking for some advice, and after reading all this negativity, he's probably feeling totally discouraged. He's likely thinking, "If everyone in the fitness community fights this much, I might as well just stay home with the TV, some chips, and a beer."
When you're hitting the gym, the absolute most critical factor is simply SURVIVING those first few months and turning the routine into a habit.
-It is TRUE that having a workout partner can be a massive help, at least DURING THE INITIAL STAGE.
-As for your TRAINING PLAN, everyone eventually develops their own rhythm, but you won't even get to that stage unless you PUSH THROUGH THE STARTING PHASE.
-You have to prioritize SLEEP and NUTRITION; that’s where the motivation actually comes from. If you aren't sleeping, you aren't training.
-RUNNING is excellent, including sprints, but keep in mind that sprinters don't get jacked just from running—they hit the weights regularly too.
I'll say it again: the most important thing is building the habit.