I’m right there with you, Rebecca White3. It feels like we’re getting hit from every angle because of those two specific local ordinances, and honestly, things always get so tense whenever there’s a big celebration or a massive crowd gathering at the local stadiums... it's exhausting. I really think our only real move at this point is to file a constitutional challenge.
Lawrence Kern60 said:Maybe you and your old-timers should actually show up at the stadium and help out that kid playing for the team... or are you just going to keep lecturing us about how the cops are throwing eggs at the fans? Typical 1986 generation...
Look, those "old-timers" you're talking about are right there in the stands, at home, and even traveling to away games...
Roger Watson77 said:Imagine 1,500 Bad Boys, total chaos in the stands, Real Madrid leading 0:3, flares going off, and everyone celebrating late into the night right in the heart of Chicago... who says that scenario won't actually happen? 😛
Guy, seriously now... I really hope that bold prediction doesn't come true...
Thomas Clark91 said:Just putting this out there as a bit of a question, if anyone happens to know
what's going on with that old crew led by Sović. Does any part of them feel even a little bit of guilt about how all of this turned out?
I mean, so many of them spent years deep in the ultra scene, and I honestly believe yesterday's events hit them hard, regardless of whatever shady deals they made with ZM.
I’d actually love to hear what Mack thinks about it all. I still remember him back in the day on the old North Side and East Side stands; he always seemed like a decent guy, so I was genuinely shocked to see how much he’s abandoned his own principles.
If I’m totally off base with this topic, feel free to delete my post.
That Mack guy is a total piece of work... look at what he's become. The connection to ZM definitely played its part. He's the kind of guy who repeatedly called people on the phone making threats, alongside that Chump, just because someone dared to criticize Mamić during games—long before the boycotts ever started (like with the Hearts situation, for example). As for Sović and his group, I won't say much... let them rot in their own mess.
Jesse Campbell, you know deep down this isn't going to happen. Most of the Western world is pretty liberal when it comes to race relations and minority rights nowadays. Maybe if we were dealing with some folks in the North America, it might fly, but not here... The idea for us and Torcida to hold a protest has been on the table for a long time, but the momentum just kind of fizzled out over the years. The real problem is that the mafia types are still just looking out for their own, shaking hands behind closed doors while the police and the courts hand us nothing but trouble. It feels like nobody has figured out the right move yet.
If you ever find yourself driving through Columbus and decide to ask someone around town... Honestly, you guys are being unbelievable with these kinds of questions. Look, I’m not one to point fingers or criticize anyone, but seriously, let's try to show a little more common sense here...
Look, people should be able to say whatever they want, and honestly, there are a few points here that actually make sense... I mean, damn, regardless of whether you like the sentiment or not, it’s just someone looking at this group from the outside, much like most regular Americans do.
...it wasn't the family that organized the match, it was AIK. If that's the case, they can't exactly go sending bills to the family; that just isn't right.
What a complete disgrace... I really didn't see that coming from the Swedes. I could have made excuses if it were our guys, but not them. Honestly, now I’m sitting here regretting ever spending a dime on a ticket for that game back in Sweden...
ruggedcanyon2 said:I have two quick questions if anyone here has dealt with this before: 2. About thirty minutes after the game ended, some folks were picked up at the bar near the stadium offices... They all took the breathalyzer test, and now they're stressing out over whether that falls under the Sports Fan Act or what.
There’s a bit of a catch here. Technically, they shouldn't have blown into the breathalyzer. If they had just refused the alcohol test, there wouldn't be much proof against them under the Sports Fan Act; the police could still detain them, but they’d eventually be released without any real headache. But since they went ahead and cooperated with the test and blew positive, they could actually face a ban because of it...
Bryan Walker70, everything you laid out is spot on, but honestly, hitting those numbers is a massive uphill battle—especially when you're trying to rally 20,000 people. I mean, right now, there isn't a single organization in America that could pull a crowd that size together that easily.
steelseal10 said:Mamić is there simply because he has to be. It’s not even about whether he wants to be or not; there’s always someone higher up the food chain who finds it convenient to keep him in place. Until we come to terms with that reality, we’re going to keep seeing endless bans, legal harassment, and these constant, desperate attempts to shut down our movement. As long as he’s grabbing coffee with corrupt judges, police chiefs, and other "legal" criminals, we’re essentially stuck.
You say there's nothing we can do, but I think that's the wrong way to look at it. Maybe we don't have much leverage right this second, but that doesn't mean we surrender. We keep fighting until our ideas finally catch fire and resonate with people.
Jose Kern11 said:🙂 🙂 It's not even about just throwing ten flares onto the field ☕
Do you seriously think that would actually get the Los Angeles Lakers banned? You’re tripping, man... come on, be serious for a second. And look, it's not like flares haven't been thrown before, but what did it actually achieve? Absolutely nothing, other than a bunch of guys getting hammered by the courts and the cops...