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bluemason3 said:I wouldn't go that far, though the symptoms and spiritual interpretations—like kundalini and such—tend to be pretty much the same.
Sandra Morgan2 said:Humility—defined as being modest, unobtrusive, and seeing oneself as insignificant compared to others and God—has to come from a deep realization of how reality actually works. Otherwise, it’s just acting. It’s just a programmed behavior.
To me, that insight is captured perfectly by the Sanskrit term *nirmama*. In a loose translation, it means: nothing is mine, I own nothing, nothing belongs to me.
Only someone who truly understands that everything they have—their parents, spouse, children, all their property, everything they’ve built, everything they know, those diplomas hanging on the wall, everything they’ve acquired, including their very body and identity—is a gift, is not truly theirs, is temporary, and will eventually be taken away... only then can they be truly humble.
That realization makes a person non-confrontational and peaceful. They don't feel the need to be at odds with the world, other people, their loved ones, or God. Such a person won't be arrogant, boastful, puffed up, or full of themselves (all traits that are the polar opposite of humility).
But they won't be a pushover who just bends to everyone else either... because beyond seeing that they own nothing, they see that no one else owns anything either.
Sandra Morgan2 said:I don't know,
I’m not even sure if those two were actually humble people to begin with....
lonefox19 said:https://www.bitno.net/vjera/pitajte-...sus-proklinje/
neonfalcon99 said:Where is that story located??? I haven't heard it, so now I'm curious. Did Jesus really curse a fig tree just because it wasn't bearing fruit when he wanted some?
Sandra Morgan2 said:Humility—defined as being modest, unobtrusive, and seeing oneself as insignificant compared to others and God—has to come from a deep realization of how reality actually works. Otherwise, it’s just acting. It’s just a programmed behavior.
To me, that insight is captured perfectly by the Sanskrit term *nirmama*. In a loose translation, it means: nothing is mine, I own nothing, nothing belongs to me.
Only someone who truly understands that everything they have—their parents, spouse, children, all their property, everything they’ve built, everything they know, those diplomas hanging on the wall, everything they’ve acquired, including their very body and identity—is a gift, is not truly theirs, is temporary, and will eventually be taken away... only then can they be truly humble.
That realization makes a person non-confrontational and peaceful. They don't feel the need to be at odds with the world, other people, their loved ones, or God. Such a person won't be arrogant, boastful, puffed up, or full of themselves (all traits that are the polar opposite of humility).
But they won't be a pushover who just bends to everyone else either... because beyond seeing that they own nothing, they see that no one else owns anything either.
Betty Chavez2 said:That's an internal state, though. You can't exactly spot it from the outside.
...and not everyone is like that. The spiritual teacher Martin was the literal embodiment of everything Christ taught; he lived such a humble, simple life. Even as a kid, he’d always ask himself, "What would Jesus do if he were in my shoes?"
David Vaughn75 said:If you seriously think Jesus was supposed to just play nice with everyone back then and cater to their every little whim, then you’ve got it all wrong. Like, what does humility even mean to you? It’s not about sitting there waiting to be handed stuff—it’s about being the one giving it away.
People need to show some damn humility toward Jesus, not the other way around. He’s the teacher here, not the student.
And at the end of the day, we all need to stay humble before God.
Michael Gonzalez77 said:A human being is basically just a dumping ground for ideas, prejudices, and random fragments of memory—kind of like a walking hard drive. We exist within that mess, desperately trying to find some sense of peace inside all that clutter. But honestly? You aren't gonna find it, Miles. 🙄
Michael Gonzalez77 said:Thoughts, experiences, emotions, memories—all of it is basically worthless when you're actually trying to discover who you are. Up until that point, it all feels heavy, like it matters. But anyone who truly "leaves" isn't carrying any of that baggage, just that same old identification with what they think their life represents. Which is... nothing. You're just stuck in those same empty loops unless you can shed all that stuff. And that’s the rare thing we’re all chasing, whether we realize it or not—that moment where you let go. Only then do you become something more than the universe itself, because the universe is really just halfway to meeting us. Whatever you think is important in this life? It’s fundamentally irrelevant. Sure, it has this massive, temporary, context-driven, conditional importance, but at its core? Life is conditionally "important"—but fundamentally, it doesn't matter at all.
nimblewolf11 said:A living universe? A walking universe?...
stormywolf5 said:Sometimes I get this mystical feeling, always triggered by some kind of mystical silence. It reminds me of something timeless, eternal, gentle yet overwhelming, ecstatic and comforting all at once. I love that feeling; it grounds me..
nimblewolf11 said:Exactly. Once you realize how much of a fascination—and frankly, how exhausting—these little mysteries actually are, they just lose their grip on you.
But here’s the kicker: a whole new set of problems crops up when you cut off that mental supply line that feeds your ego's need to feel special or important. This whole "sobering up" process isn't exactly a walk in the park, is it? It hurts. Why? Because that impulsive, starving ego isn't sitting front and center anymore. When the fog finally lifts, and if you're lucky enough to get even a shred of clarity, you realize the whole thing was nothing more than a cheap shot from an endless arsenal of illusions. I'm talking about that constant, nagging possibility of being deluded.
Douglas Hall59 said:Could you actually elaborate on that...
Douglas Hall59 said:See, I’m telling you, those blurry, hazy shots of that strange setting didn't actually intrigue me nearly as much as the raw sensory details did... it was those specific impressions that unmistakably signaled to me that I was emotionally tethered to that space just as much as to the people in it, especially that little girl who kept "appearing" throughout the sequence. It is incredibly difficult to articulate that particular sensation in a way that allows a reader to truly experience it, or even grasp the gravity of what is happening... which is why, in my view, drawing from one's own lived experience is the only way to exchange any semblance of a coherent thought regarding the situation at hand...
Every single time I close my eyes and conjure up that image of the old stone well sitting right there in the town square—a sight burned so deeply into my memory—I find myself overwhelmed by this sudden, heavy rush of emotion... It brings back all those feelings of warmth and struggle, that sense of shared hardship and deep-rooted family devotion I was trying to express in my last post...
If I could actually manage to deepen my practice through meditation, perhaps I’d gain some real clarity on these... let's call them occurrences... but until then, all I'm left with is this fragmented, emotional echo of past timelines. Regardless, what I experienced was entirely new, and frankly, incredibly bizarre...
Maybe I should give regression a shot... 😉
loneridge88 said:I might have miscategorized this under Spirituality, but since Vedic Science is fundamentally rooted in spirituality, I decided it belonged here after all.
I’m interested in hearing your perspectives on Vedic Science. Specifically, what do the Vedas mean to you, and how much do you actually trust the science behind them? If this topic has already been covered on the forum, please excuse my intrusion.
I’m not going to bore everyone with the basics of the Vedas right now. Most of you likely already know a thing or two, and if you don't, a quick Wikipedia search will get you up to speed. I want to skip the superlatives—all that talk about how they are the "oldest," "most comprehensive," or "longest" texts. That isn't my focus. I am interested in the actual philosophy and the science.
Western science views time as a linear progression, but the Vedas teach something entirely different. They present time as cyclical, broken down into four distinct stages that repeat eternally. In the Vedas, there is no definitive beginning or end; everything simply exists in an infinite loop.
Western evolutionary theory pushes an idiotic thesis: that consciousness somehow emerged from matter. I don't buy it. The Vedas propose the exact opposite—a process of devolution. In this view, matter actually developed out of consciousness. We didn't evolve upward; we descended from a state of pure consciousness.
The Vedas are fascinating because their myths and stories are frequently backed by physical evidence. Take the Ram Bridge mentioned in the Ramayana, for example. Satellite imagery recently revealed its existence between India and Sri Lanka. Then there are the numerous cities of Krishna described in the Mahabharata; many of these locations have been pinpointed, including underwater cities found off the coast of Gujarat that feature unmistakable symbols of Krishna. Even the Saraswati river, long dismissed as mere myth despite being precisely located in the Vedas, was only recently proven to exist through the discovery of a dried-up riverbed. It would be easy to dismiss these as legends if they weren't all documented in accounts spanning hundreds of thousands—and in some cases, millions—of years.
I mention these stories to illustrate the philosophy of cyclical time. Most myths within the Vedas take place in eras where humanity supposedly didn't even exist yet. When it comes to numbers, the Vedas are incredibly precise and literal.
As I’ve mentioned before, the Vedas describe time as being divided into four distinct cycles. According to these cycles, our civilization follows a predictable trajectory: we emerge from the Stone Age, climb toward a peak of highly advanced development, and eventually reach a point of such extreme saturation that it triggers a catastrophe. That collapse inevitably resets everything back to the Stone Age. Based on the Vedas, this isn't a one-time occurrence; it's a perpetual loop. We are simply one more civilization in a long line of societies that crawled out of the Stone Age and will surely fall right back into it.
The Vedas suggest that the Stone Age was actually triggered by a nuclear war between two ancient empires. One side is undoubtedly the empire of Ram, but the identity of the second empire remains a mystery—some theorists point toward the lost civilization of Lemuria. The evidence at Mohenjo-daro is hard to ignore. In the very heart of the city, researchers found radiation levels dozens of times higher than normal. The brick walls were literally melted, and traces of vitrified sand were discovered on-site. Most chillingly, they found dozens of human skeletons positioned as if they were caught in mid-flight, trying to escape. The physical evidence is overwhelming. According to the Vedas, an atomic bomb detonated just southwest of the Saraswati River, which aligns perfectly with the location of Mohenjo-daro. It’s a fascinating connection.
The Vedas frequently describe Vimana flying machines used for travel and even combat. These texts provide such detailed blueprints for construction that many researchers have studied them, concluding that building such craft is entirely feasible. The primary hurdle remains the propulsion system, which relies on pure mercury housed within the main engine. According to the Vedas, mercury is the only element capable of absorbing thought energy, allowing pilots to maneuver these crafts simply by directing their intentions toward the mercury. Some, like Swami Dev Murthi, claim the Vedas even contain instructions for constructing atomic bombs, though I haven't personally come across that specific data yet.
One of the core teachings of the Vedas is "Ahimsa," which translates to non-violence. The Vedas strictly prohibit eating meat or eggs, and they forbid participating in any form of violence against any living creature on this planet. Here is why that is the case.
Most of you have seen The Matrix, but few realize its foundations are rooted in the Vedas. The filmmakers are major followers of Vedic teachings. Essentially, the Vedas teach that we are all interconnected, forming a collective consciousness that serves as the basis for the material world—and vice versa. If we harm any living being, we are effectively harming a part of ourselves because of this connection. Everything physical is actually a vibration of consciousness. We are pure consciousness acting as observers; by observing matter, we grant it frequency, which allows it to exist. It’s similar to the holographic principle or zero-point field theories. All these concepts find their origins in the Vedas.
According to the Vedas, we are subject to the laws of karma. There are karmic laws embedded within our subconscious. Think of it as a form of memory that records every good and bad deed. These actions are weighed in our subconscious and remain there until the moment of death. When we die, our subconscious merges with universal consciousness, and in that state, we become acutely aware of everything we’ve done. Based on those deeds, it is determined whether we move on to the astral plane or are sent back to this world to work through our subconscious. The goal some call self-realization or enlightenment is to become aware of the subconscious. Within it lie "codes"—much like the "matrix" in the movie—that aren't visible at our current level of consciousness. We designed these codes ourselves to serve as a compass in this life.
The Vedas suggest that when a person dies, their consciousness, along with their soul (energy), lingers in an intermediate realm until we grasp what is happening and the subconscious completes its process. Once that happens, our consciousness enters a fetus, entering through the fontanelle. The fontanelle is the soft spot on a baby's skull that stays open for several months. This spot is significant because it sits directly above the pineal gland. The pineal gland is the center of consciousness, often referred to as the third eye. It's roughly the size of a pea, and the more developed it is, the more expansive the consciousness becomes. Because of this, the Vedas include a technique many of you may have heard of called "Sun Gazing," or solar yoga, which aims to increase the pineal gland by absorbing photonic energy. This explains why the sun is the most important deity in the Vedas. The sun represents life and everything in existence.
What I find fascinating about the Vedas is that they don't mention evolution. They clearly describe species that didn't evolve from something else, but have always existed. They speak of life adapting to Earth in ways that can change a species, but they don't subscribe to the theory of species evolving. They even mention dinosaurs, which is quite interesting.
I could write for hours about the Vedas. I began studying them in depth a few years ago because I find everything I need within them. The Vedas hold the answers to all questions, though they can be difficult to grasp. The texts themselves state that the point isn't just understanding a translation, but achieving individual realization. Regarding the Vedas, Brahmins represent pure consciousness, as all knowledge originates from there. The Vedas are described as the matrix of the collective consciousness residing within all of us; we simply need to learn how to read the codes.
An interesting point 😁
casualtiger2 said:Interesting phenomenon here—something you could potentially link back to how the etheric body actually functions: Phantom limb
"A phantom limb is that weird sensation where an amputated or missing limb feels like it’s still right there. Roughly 60 to 80% of people dealing with an amputation deal with these phantom sensations, and most of the time, they aren't exactly pleasant. These sensations can even pop up after losing parts of the body other than limbs—think things like breast amputation, pulling a tooth (phantom tooth pain), or even losing an eye (phantom eye syndrome)."
casualtiger2 said:Here are a few more phenomena that could be explained by "energy"—or maybe just suggestion, hypnosis, or plain old physical reflexes.
When someone gets hurt, there’s this natural tendency to grab the injury—maybe rubbing it, maybe not—but mothers especially love to kiss the spot or blow on it.
Another little exercise idea: if you’ve got an ache somewhere, try focusing on your chest for a second. Try to tap into that feeling of being head-over-heels in love, or just a general sense of warmth and affection (doesn't matter how you get there). If—and when—you actually feel that "energy," those tingles, or that "pins and needles" sensation... try directing it straight toward the part of your body that hurts.
Prana is a lot like electricity; it tends to pool in certain spots. Most of the discharge happens at "pointed" areas like your fingertips, or at specific centers like the reproductive organs. A good chunk of it also flows through speech, out the mouth (which is why we have the silence practice, Mauna),
and even through the eyes—which explains that weird sensation of being watched or felt by someone's gaze...
bluemason3, what does your favorite, Ramakrishna, have to say about all this "energy" stuff?
Prana is a bit like electricity; it can pool up in specific spots in the body, and the discharge usually happens at "pointed" areas like your fingertips, certain "energy centers" like the reproductive organs, or through speech—which is why there are exercises centered on silence, or Mauna.
It also moves through the eyes (which explains why you sometimes get that weird vibe that someone is watching you or touching you with their gaze).
Susan Price30 said:I think bluemason3 makes a valid point, as this really feels reminiscent of hypnosis—the kind of stuff you see stage hypnotists or circus performers pulling off on stage
It goes without saying how wrong this is on every possible level, whether you're looking at it from an ethical or a moral standpoint.
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casualtiger2 said:@bluemason3
We were already on our way. 😬
casualtiger2 said:I can't even remember when I first tried this—or why, really. Either way, there was zero hypnosis involved, and nobody was feeding me suggestions about what I should be feeling
(which is why I didn't claim any massive sensations were possible in the first place).
But, looking at how things work in spiritual circles, you’ve got people who haven't even tried it yet but already have an opinion—some cling to theories, while others see nothing but demons (or just assume it's all hypnosis/suggestion).
The practice doesn't need to be long; we aren't talking about exhaustion or hand cramping, nor is this some attempt to "clench hands" (?).
Anyway, here’s my take—after about 10 to 30 seconds, I start feeling these "ants" crawling through my fingertips and the center of my palms, along with a distinct flow of "energy."
In the middle of my palms, there's also this extra heat (if you've ever done Yoga Nidra involving conscious awareness shifting, or maybe some Autogenic Training, then you know the drill—wherever you focus your attention, that part of the body gets warmer, more relaxed, or "heavier").
After a few minutes, an "energy" flow establishes itself between my palms; when I slowly pull my hands apart, it feels like they're connected by some kind of elastic band.
That connection usually snaps and vanishes at around 15 or 20 inches.
PS
Elizabeth Castillo87, we're talking about etheric "energies" here. Does our discussion actually serve a purpose?
Thomas Nelson25
Do you practice Judo? I experienced some "incredible" things regarding ki flow back then.
casualtiger2 said:Has anyone actually given what I suggested a shot?
bluemason3 said:They run tests like that all the time at circus hypnosis shows to measure suggestibility. There’s no such thing as "energy" here. 😉