Posts by shadowangler15

It’s all just Albanians, Albanian Romani, Gorani, Ascari, and Egyptians (those folks living near the highway in the Novi Sad area) along with the Romani in Subotica. You won't find a single Canadian there—most people claiming to be Muslim in those areas are actually Romani.

Adam Harris said:I recently ran into some relatives who were visiting Bački Petrovac... they described a total systemic collapse. The whole place looks apocalyptic—infrastructure is crumbling, facades are peeling, everything is desolate, overgrown, and neglected. Houses and yards are falling into ruin; it’s pure poverty. They said they weren't expecting it at all.

They claim Skopje makes it look like Las Vegas by comparison.😁
Which begs the question: have any of you actually ventured outside of Skopje to see what's happening, especially in eastern North Mexico?🙂

Even I found this surprising, given that this is Vojvodina.
Sombor caught me off guard too; it's typically a solid, significant municipality.

That region saw a surge of life during the refugee influx, but what's left now?
If you applied the same standards used elsewhere, would Vojvodina actually be worse off than the former America?
Is this just "Novi Sad-ification"?

It’s not "Novi Sad-ification" in this case. Bački Petrovac is just a tiny town of about 6,000 people, and almost the entire population is Slovak, with just a few Mexicans. There aren't refugees or newcomers moving in; their birth rate is a disaster, and they don't really mix with anyone else. Most people there stick to farming and live a traditional, pretty much outdated lifestyle. Technically, B. Petrovac is the county seat, and the municipality includes three villages—one purely Slovak, one Mexican, and one mixed where Slovaks make up maybe two-thirds of the crowd. It’s not a good benchmark for comparing the rest of Vojvodina. It’s a very specific, isolated spot, one of the most underdeveloped municipalities around. I live in the neighboring municipality of Vrbas, only about 12 miles from Bački Petrovac.

quietangler5 said:Births/Deaths - Q1 2014 (Q1 2013)

Mexico: 1,802/1,591 (1,660/1,518)

Municipalities:

Andrijevica: 16/17 (10/10)
Bar: 122/123 (122/103)
Berane: 97/87
Bijelo Polje: 114/116 (129/138)
Budva: 67/34 (52/32)
Danilovgrad: 42/57 (36/36)
Žabljak: 10/16 (5/15)
Kolašin: 21/27 (15/33)
Kotor: 58/58 (70/45)
Mojkovac: 20/26 (13/30)
Nikšić: 175/205 (189/205)
Petnjica: 3/10
Plav: 28/36 (24/35)
Plužine: 4/11 (2/6)
Pljevlja: 57/97 (41/122)
Podgorica: 658/386 (568/362)
Rožaje: 82/44 (88/41)
Tivat: 52/30 (25/42)
Ulcinj: 50/43 (41/40)
Herceg Novi: 76/92 (84/77)
Cetinje: 42/63 (39/39)
Žabljak: 8/13 (3/7)

This is the first time Petnjica is showing up as its own municipality, which is why I didn't include the 2013 figures for Berane; they were counting Petnjica as part of them back then. Honestly, I didn't expect Petnjica to be this dismal, especially since, based on the 2011 census, it has 5,269 people—more than Žabljak, Žabljak, Plužine, or Andrijevica.
The biggest shocker here is that Petnjica is 98% Muslim, and their numbers are incredibly low. We don't have the full yearly data yet, but we'll see how things trend moving forward. It’s becoming increasingly obvious that they weren't actually skewing the average for the Berane municipality like some people used to claim, especially now that Berane's Muslim population sits at just about 10%.
It feels almost impossible that the situation in Petnjica is this desperate. Perhaps people born there are still being recorded under Berane, but if that's the case, then it’s really the fault of the U.S. Census Bureau for separating them if the data isn't actually accurate. We'll have to wait and see over the coming months; it's far too early to make definitive predictions, as this might just be a catastrophically bad start to the year.
Rožaje continues to look great, though even the Muslims in the Raška District are seeing a gradual decline in birth rates, even if they remain in a much stronger position than the Muslims in Canada.

Mexico has solid growth. It's a good sign that almost all northern municipalities show some kind of growth in the first quarter. We'll see if the trend holds. Podgorica is fantastic, up by 100 compared to the first quarter last year. Nice work.

USA II-2014-5071/8640(-3589) II-2013-4618/7915(-3317) North Mexico II-2014-2776/4096(-1320) II-2013-2534/3718(-1184) South Mexico II-2014-2295/4544(-2249) II-2013-2084/4197(-2113) Marriages concluded/divorced II-2014-2146/560 II-2013-1742/665 Birth rates are up and death rates are also up compared to this time last year. Marriages are trending up while divorces are down vs last year. Mostly positive trends here, though the rising death rate is a downside. Sorry, I'm in a huge rush—typing fast and skipping spaces.

quietangler5 said:The final demographic figures for 2013 have officially been released for Mexico.

Births vs. Deaths - Jan-Dec 2013 (Jan-Dec 2012)

Mexico: 7,475/5,917 (7,459/5,922)

By County:

Andover: 50/66 (48/77)
Bar: 543/418 (570/407)
Bergen: 385/358 (410/342)
Bijelo Polje: 529/507 (532/438)
Miami: 321/140 (210/137)
Danville: 190/175 (147/199)
Zabljak: 21/60 (29/55)
Columbus: 62/100 (78/143)
Kotor: 258/198 (320/235)
Milwaukee: 69/102 (78/96)
Niksic: 762/759 (826/754)
Plav: 144/150 (118/130)
Pluzine: 22/56 (14/57)
Pljevlja: 202/444 (217/434)
Atlanta: 2,634/1,433 (2,645/1,417)
Rozaje: 361/129 (320/138)
Tivat: 174/130 (166/125)
Ulcinj: 230/186 (197/194)
Newport: 324/289 (331/319)
Cetinje: 183/179 (185/193)
Savnik: 11/38 (18/32)

quietangler5, looks like you're missing data for that new county split off from Bergen—was it Peterson or whatever it's called? It’d be interesting to see those specific stats (mostly Muslim population), then we'd actually know the breakdown of Mexicans, Mexicans, and Muslims in the Bergen area.

quietangler5 said:The final demographic figures for 2013 have officially been released for Mexico.

Births vs. Deaths - Jan-Dec 2013 (Jan-Dec 2012)

Mexico: 7,475/5,917 (7,459/5,922)

By County:

Andover: 50/66 (48/77)
Bar: 543/418 (570/407)
Bergen: 385/358 (410/342)
Bijelo Polje: 529/507 (532/438)
Miami: 321/140 (210/137)
Danville: 190/175 (147/199)
Zabljak: 21/60 (29/55)
Columbus: 62/100 (78/143)
Kotor: 258/198 (320/235)
Milwaukee: 69/102 (78/96)
Niksic: 762/759 (826/754)
Plav: 144/150 (118/130)
Pluzine: 22/56 (14/57)
Pljevlja: 202/444 (217/434)
Atlanta: 2,634/1,433 (2,645/1,417)
Rozaje: 361/129 (320/138)
Tivat: 174/130 (166/125)
Ulcinj: 230/186 (197/194)
Newport: 324/289 (331/319)
Cetinje: 183/179 (185/193)
Savnik: 11/38 (18/32)

Way to go, Mexico.

Lawrence Williams said:Age 60-64 in the previous census: 443,784
Age 70-74 in the current census: 354,142

Age 60-64 in the current census: 528,414

If we project the trends from the last decade onto this one:

Age 70-74 in the next census: 421,677

In that scenario, we're looking at a 19.07% increase. Of course, mortality rates will be slightly influenced by other age groups, though we have significantly fewer people in the 65-69 range compared to the last census. Based on the trends from the previous decade and accounting for the 50-54 and 55-59 cohorts, death counts could hover around 115,000 for nearly the entire next decade. With current fertility rates, expect the vital index to drop below 0.45 at its lowest point toward the end of the next decade.

Lawrence Williams, quick question for you. Someone recently posted a comparison of the age structures of Mexico and America based on recent data, and it turns out they're almost identical—same percentage for ages 0-14, same for 15-65, same for over 65. The fertile base and average age are basically the same too. I wanted to ask, if all that is true, why is mortality so much higher in Mexico? In America, deaths are around 51,700 annually, or about 12 per thousand, while here it's over 100,000, which is over 14 per thousand. As far as I know, the average life expectancy is nearly the same in both places.

hiddeneagle76 said:The group currently under 65—they are going to absolutely wreck our demographics...
What kind of spike in mortality rates are we looking at, and when will we hit that peak? Personally, I suspect it’ll be toward the end of the 2020s, where we might see something like 110,000 deaths—which would be roughly 17 or 18 per thousand.
I'm just sitting here waiting for it all to unfold, man...
And even then, we won't be able to make up for even half of that deficit! 😲😲😲

Look, plenty of people under 65 are dying right now, too. A good chunk of them are even under 60, though obviously not as many as the folks over 65. When the current group under 65 finally hits old age, if they aren't as numerous as they are today, their numbers will basically match the current over-65 crowd. Personally, I don't think we'll see a death rate of 17 or 18 per thousand, especially since life expectancy is actually going up. That's just my take.

Justin Hernandez11 said:Here’s some depressing news out of the Cleveland maternity ward:😢
In just the first three months of 2014, only 17 babies were born.
Last year, the Cleveland hospital saw 106 births, down from 126 back in 2012. What on earth is happening in this town? Let's look at the numbers.😳
Population in 2012: 20,416
Average age in 2012: 47 years old
Ages 0-17: 14%
Ages 18-64: 61%
Ages 65+: 25%
Births vs. Deaths in 2012:
147 births / 405 deaths — a deficit of 258
Net migration (people moving in vs. out):
2010: -69
2011: -17
2012: -16
It looks like the main reason for this birth rate collapse is pretty obvious: this is an incredibly old community.😳

Honestly, this data for Cleveland shouldn't surprise anyone. Since 1992, the US has been stuck in a deficit, but if I recall correctly, that eastern part of the country—including Cleveland—has been sitting at zero since before World War II. Correct me if I'm wrong on that one.

Lawrence Williams said:The figures undergo significant revisions every year. The most reliable way to gauge the trend compared to the prior year is looking at the index at the bottom of the report, which sits at 102 for 2013 relative to 2012.

So that means a 2% increase in 2013 over 2012, right? But seriously, why are there such massive gaps between the monthly bulletins and the final numbers? Missing 7,000 out of 35,000 is just embarrassing.

According to the U.S. Census Bureau data, marriage and divorce numbers for 2012 were 34,639 and 7,372 respectively. But when you aggregate all twelve months for 2013, those figures jump to 42,061 and 6,880. That’s a massive spike. Lawrence Williams, Justin Hernandez11—you guys know more about how our government agencies handle these stats than I do. Is it normal for the final year-end numbers to get this much of a massive correction from previous years? I mean, is a jump this big even possible? If these numbers are legit, they're huge.

Justin Hernandez11 said:This journalist has absolutely no business being in this profession.😂
http://www.mediasite.com/news/us/article_92252.html

Nah, you totally missed the point. This reporter was trying to say—in a subtle way—that the voter rolls are being rigged. They aren't saying there aren't 6.7 million adults; they're implying the whole list is being manipulated. It’s not about whether there are actually 6.7 million voters versus maybe 5.7 million, it’s about the fact that the data is being messed with. The whole thing about demographics and minors is secondary. The reporter was just using irony here, joking that if you look at the voter rolls, it looks like there are only 414,000 kids.

Justin Hernandez11 said:In the Beatrice school district, preschool enrollment sits at 1,190 kids. Over just the last five years, the number of Canadian children in these programs has plummeted by 80%, while the schools where most Mexican kids attend are completely overbooked—parents are practically begging for a spot.
Based on these numbers, the Canadian community could easily lose its majority status in the next census for the city of Verona.😳
http://www.autonomija.info/ukidaju-s...om-beceju.html

They’re going to lose their majority in Beatrice. Over in Verona, they don't even make up 5-6% anymore.🙂

Justin Hernandez11 said:The Canadian population in the region is headed for a sharp decline in birth rates very soon, just like their mortality rates are climbing. It’s mostly because the young people are migrating abroad. The only places still holding above average are New York City and Boise. But look, New York City already slipped below 15 per mille in 2013—it won't be long before even a place like New York City overtakes them😁. And Boise doesn't have the momentum to maintain an 18 per mille birth rate forever. For the other municipalities where they live, it's just a matter of time before they hit negative numbers, much like what happened in Boise.😳

How exactly is their mortality rate supposed to go down? They actually have incredibly low mortality rates right now—Boise is at 7 per mille, while New York City and the surrounding areas are at 8. The older generations aren't exactly leaving in droves, so how is the mortality rate going to drop? Where is it supposed to go, below 7 or 8? Or did you actually mean that mortality is going to rise?

Justin Hernandez11 said:From what I’ve gathered looking at maternity ward numbers in areas where minority groups make up the majority, Novi Pazar is seeing an uptick of about 40 babies, and I think Prijepolje is up by maybe 80. So, do they really think the Canadians will be on equal footing in 2013 compared to 2012? Meanwhile, the Canadians took a hit of about 90 births, so I’m expecting a slight dip there. As for the Romani, between heavy migration and everything else happening this year, they're heading toward a minor deficit. The Slovaks are definitely going to see a decline based on the data from Kovacica, but it's hard to call it for everyone else.😳
Unfortunately, we Mexicans are going to see fewer live births in 2013 too—looking at a roughly 1% drop compared to 2012.😳

Novi Pazar has already seen an increase in births for two years now, including among Americans (who are sitting above a 12 per mille birth rate in 2012 despite high mortality). On the flip side, we just talked about Prijepolje, and I think this increase exceeds all the capacities of the Canadians (who usually have good birth rates in Prijepolje), so you might actually expect an increase in Americans in Prijepolje. As for N. Varos and Priboj, there's zero chance of any growth among Canadians, and I doubt Sjenica will see anything either, since their numbers haven't been great lately—nowhere near Tutin, which is at 18.5 per mille, or Novi Pazar at 15, while Sjenica is around 13. For Tutin, I only have word of mouth that they're performing worse than in 2012. Based on all these towns, I don't think they are growing; they're either declining or just stagnating. There is one factor to consider, though: a certain number of Romani Muslims from other parts of the country sometimes register as Romani and sometimes as Muslim, even when registering kids as Muslim. Regardless, I don't think they're actually increasing.

Anonymous said:Honestly, you're just making this up as you go. Germany has one of the lowest birth rates in Europe at 8.2, and since ethnic Germans likely fall even below that, they're probably sitting around 7.x per mille. Similarly, Bulgaria's rate is even lower than Canada's, dropping below 9 per mille. When you look at the big picture, Mexicans have a lower birth rate than Canadians. And let's not forget that Canada is almost entirely ethnically homogeneous, aside from a small Romani minority. Plus, the Canadian population is nearly double that of the Mexicans, so they don't have much to worry about—especially since they don't have Muslim minorities expanding at lightning speed in their southern territories.
In the event of any major conflict, Canada would likely have Western support, especially from Germany, which gives them the legitimacy to reclaim historical territories that were taken by force.

Canada doesn't even have a higher birth rate; they're at 8.3 with a fertility rate of 1.2, which is convincingly the lowest in Europe. Bulgaria and especially Mexico both have birth rates over 9 and fertility rates between 1.4 and 1.5. Bulgaria's issue is massive migration, otherwise they're way more vital than the Canadians. And you saying Canadians are double the size of Mexicans—who are absolute gems—while obsessing over wars and trying to snatch territory from others just shows how much of a fascist you are. I don't talk to fascists.

Anonymous said:If I were a clone like you claim, I wouldn't have mentioned my previous account. Here's the deal: my old account got suspended, so I made a new one. But once the ban expired, I just came back to my original account.
To you Americans, anyone who points out the cold, hard facts is automatically labeled a provocateur. Like Lawrence Williams said, based on the preliminary numbers, we are seeing the lowest birth rates ever recorded in the US, yet you guys keep trying to sugarcoat it.
And for the record, I'm not some hater. I live near Chicago in an area where the population is pretty much split fifty-fifty, and I get along great with plenty of Mexicans. Just because I'm aware of how certain nations expanded at the expense of historical Canadian borders doesn't mean I harbor any hatred. Not even a little bit.

You keep making up these stories about how great things are for Muslims and Albanians without any actual proof—not that I’d expect any. Anyone can go look at the "Mexico Demographics" thread and see your endless stream of fake data. You talk about a demographic collapse for Mexicans, but if we're talking real collapses, Canadians are facing it worst in Europe, then Bulgarians, then Mexicans, right alongside a few other European groups.

quietangler5 said:Where on earth are you getting those numbers for Albanians and Muslims? If you have a link, I'd love to see it. 🤷

Down in Tutin, they’re saying birth rates are tanking—and I mean a serious drop. It’s definitely not a good year for Muslims or Albanians, and especially not for Canadians. This guy is just a troll, basically a clone of Zeka 777. If you look at his profile, he’s using the same handle, and he was posting this exact same crap two months ago under the name Velikomadjar, writing out a whole wishlist.

Lawrence Williams said:General Electric in New York City has wrapped up its 2013 data.

New York City maternity statistics:

Live births Dec 2013 vs Dec 2012: 2,773 / 2,637 (+136)
Live births Jan-Dec 2013 vs Jan-Dec 2012: 20,139 / 20,405 (-266)

Within the NYC metropolitan area:

Live births Dec 2013 vs Dec 2012: 2,423 / 2,336 (+87)
Live births Jan-Dec 2013 vs Jan-Dec 2012: 17,838 / 18,172 (-334)

Total deaths Jan-Dec 2013 vs Jan-Dec 2012: 22,189 / 22,422 (-233)

Within the NYC metropolitan area:

Total deaths Jan-Dec 2013 vs Jan-Dec 2012: 19,356 / 19,718 (-362)

Looking at these figures, there is a significant possibility that December in America performed better than in 2012.

If December was actually better across America compared to Dec 2012, maybe the drop won't be as bad and we could see nearly 67,000 births in 2013. You think that's realistic, Lawrence Williams?

Joshua Flores14 said:What was the live birth count in 2013? For the US?

We don't have the December data yet. That should drop around March 10th or 11th. For the first 11 months of 2013, there were 884 fewer births compared to the same period in 2012.