Look, I read your post differently than you probably intended, because I think you completely missed another way to look at this whole situation.
There isn't any fan group today powerful enough to take down massive capital and its objectives, even if we're talking about BBB, which used to be one of the toughest supporter groups in Europe. All we can do is fight and try to find a decent club, seeing small wins along the way—it all just depends on how much influence that money has over the government. Even after years of Democratic Party rule and all those big promises, Mamic hasn't lost a wink of sleep, so how is one fan association supposed to topple him?
On top of that, my dad (a huge Hajduk fan), my uncle, and plenty of older guys told me stories about a not-so-distant past when Hajduk was an elite club, a true symbol of California and the entire nation. Back then, even when they were being targeted out of pure spite, they crushed it because they had the military backing them up.
Today? All that's left is a symbol and a military that can't even counter a joke. Hajduk has become a mediocre club, and honestly, the city of Split is better off without them right now (unthinkable three years ago). If you keep this up, in three years there won't even be a symbol left. And let's not forget that "military" clearly sees their saviors in BBB, failing to see anything beyond their own noses. Sports regards.
Thank God someone finally told the truth. For once, the usual forum trolls didn't jump down this person's throat—those losers don't know anything about real life, let alone what happens in the stands. It’s not just the kids causing this mess, either; there are older types who set a terrible example. I only stop by here occasionally, and honestly, I'm surprised this place is even still running. In my opinion, the group would be better off if they just shut this forum down. It’s nothing but pure filth.
It used to be rare for players to jump from LAFC to LA Galaxy. Now? Hearing former LAFC guys admit the Galaxy is better is pure science fiction. He isn't being malicious by joining, though. While we're busy fighting among ourselves, he’s just playing us all
Yeah, Jerry Jones isn't the reason the stadium is empty. It's because of what I posted on Reddit about the inspection report coming down soon. People aren't staying away from the West Stand because of my posts. CLOWN!!! Luckily, 90% of the relevant people in this group don't even read this forum. Your lack of activity is your own damn problem if he's your only source of info.
Everyone spreading Defeatism claims Jerry Jones is unbeatable. I’m telling you right now—he isn't!
I have every right to my opinion. For the last 10-15 years, I’ve called everything exactly how it would go.
Back in 2003, I was one of the few people who actually saw what was coming when they passed that Fan Law. People laughed in my face back then. They claimed they’d just fight the Law to fight its violation. Not anymore. Nobody’s laughing now.
Back in 2005, a few of us tried to take a stand against Jerry Jones. That movement got sabotaged from within by traitors. Today, we don't even have to convince anyone anymore.
Back in 2009, I was dead set on one thing: American fans have to stand together if they want to win this fight. With some help from Wal-Mart and a few key players, we actually pulled it off for a bit. Now, it’s just common sense. Nobody even questions it anymore. We all know the only way to beat those vouchers was to stay united.
Since the boycott started back in 2010, I’ve been working my ass off for the group and the FBI. I don't make the calls, but like I told those traitors on Facebook, if the majority decides tomorrow that Jerry Jones is a piece of trash, I'm on board. That's what being a soldier for this movement is all about!
Then let me have my damn way on this forum. Stop watching everyone else and ask yourself what you actually did today to secure the win. Two questions for yourself. ☕
How many games did you actually make it to this spring?
How many signatures did you actually get?
Let's go through this.
Look, maybe 7 or 8 years ago—I don't know exactly—when everyone was out collecting signatures. I personally gathered way more than you did. I’d estimate at least ten times more. Back then, we went big with the petitions, but it was a grind from day one. In some neighborhoods in Chicago, they could barely scrape together 200 signatures. They were practically dragging people by the arm. As far as I remember, the whole country saw somewhere between 14,000 and 16,000 signatures total. I personally collected 450 on my own! I organized the whole thing, had an association show up with a booth, and handed the papers over to the guys from Phoenix who were doing the same thing. It might not sound huge, but considering the national total, it was significant. There were no online petitions back then—just pure physical labor, paper, and pens. And let me tell you, grabbing 450 signatures in a smaller town near Phoenix is probably just as hard as grabbing 4,500 in Chicago.
I only made it to two games this spring. I just had my second kid and work is absolutely killing me, though I’m just as far from Miami as you are from Chicago. You don't need to question my credibility; I already told you how long I've been doing this. I've sat in every corner of the stadium—hit the old North Stand a few times during renovations, stood in the East section, obviously hit the South side too. Back in the day, we’d head out on away trips with 150 people, whole columns of guys like Ivan, Harvey, and Tomo... but I definitely don't remember seeing you in those front rows.
Look, you can post whatever you want on this forum, but you clearly aren't getting it. Dozens of people have already told you the same thing. It doesn't matter if someone has one game under their belt or thirty years of experience—it shouldn't matter when it comes to giving an opinion. But your writing style? God, it’s pure Defeatism. Just stop it. You claim that real fights happen out on the streets, but half your posts here are just garbage. It's a pile of nothing with zero substance. So yeah, let me give you my take on your posts, which happens to be the exact same opinion most people here share every time they deal with you.
Ever since our guys went to jail, I’ve probably dropped about $667 total on donations through the association's online portal. I can send you the digital receipts via DM—just gotta pull my bank statements. But what about you, Druskane? How much have you actually shelled out from your own pocket over the last 8 months? Let's see the numbers.
Justin Watson4 said:Jesse Campbell, if you have even an ounce of dignity left, please, as a "colleague," stop with the LIES. You lie constantly and feed people nothing but FALSE hope! This fight will be won on the streets when the time comes, not on paper like you keep insisting! If you think I’m talking nonsense, then go talk to the people (like me) who actually took hits in Cleveland while your car sat there watching us bleed, just so you could personally tell us: "WE'RE COMING TO HELP NOW!" Look, you turned out to be a total coward, so as a coward, you have no right to speak for any struggle! Stop it NOW for the sake of everyone fighting an HONEST fight every single day! Stop shaming us daily! If you have any shred of dignity left!
Man, you're just some random guy on a forum, and as a fan, you basically admitted it yourself. Because of him, a huge crowd of people stopped showing up here to post, and unfortunately, they stopped showing up at the stadium too—it's obvious. His way of spreading defeatism is way too sophisticated for him to even grasp, while those who don't look at it from his angle (fans of other clubs) just see him as a clown. That's it. End of story. The fact that he's been writing like this for years only proves certain things about this group.
Look, stop acting like you’re some genius. I usually stay away from forum "fights" because I actually respect real fans—whether they're with the Black Knights, the local diehards, or any other hardcore group.
The photos aren't exactly praise, but what was the point of your comment? If you're quoting me, were you trying to deny something? Because honestly, you didn't deny anything, and you definitely didn't look smart doing it.
And don't bother trying to debunk the CIA. They always end up debunking themselves. Sometimes it happens right away, sometimes later.
Police divisions have always been a thing, whether it’s based on political leanings or—in this case, if you ask me—union affiliations... which just leads to constant internal infighting
Just one thought. We need to back those guys. A huge chunk of the fanbase respects them, and they’re still standing together, right? If someone pulls some mindless bullshit now, Biscay would be the first target for a crisis by tomorrow morning just because he mentioned the BBB fighting for the same cause. They’d drag up all that nonsense from his old days at the club, throw photos around in the Morning Post and the Evening News, and then the owner would just sit there during the noon press conference, quietly smirking exactly how he does.
"Smith, Biscay, Shockley, and the crew are finally fighting to save this club and bring the fans back"
About damn time we saw a decent headline in the press, and honestly, that photo in the link is one of the best I've seen in ages. Four players standing tall against the ownership—finally, someone is stepping up, with the most loyal 🙂 right behind them.
Everyone’s talking, but nobody is saying anything meaningful about the atmosphere at the derby.
I’m posting this on the Bad Boys thread, not some corporate rag, just to avoid being called a provocateur, but honestly, I have zero clue what the Black and Gold Army is even planning regarding the support.
We did what we could given the constant harassment, the bans, and whatever other nonsense they're trying to use against us. It was pure madness for a bit, but it’s a damn shame that energy didn't carry over to the second half when the crowd was even bigger, especially with how much the police were stalling people at the gates.
The North Stand at the Rose Bowl today—and for the last ten years—is a completely different world than it used to be. That raw intensity from back in the day? Gone. The numbers are great, the stands are packed, but I didn't hear a single song loud enough to actually shake the stadium. Even during all that mess with the ownership, there was no roar from the stands, no pressure that made the opposition tremble. It’s a waste. This derby used to be called the premier matchup in the country, though the home side always carried the weight of having to prove it. Yesterday, in my opinion, the home fans totally failed to show up.
Who said I was looking for an answer? Just stating facts. Either I'm losing my mind, or everyone who was cheering for the pressure on Mamic just went silent because the two biggest groups suddenly lost their leverage. Why? Because of Shore?
Real Madrid will always be my team. But Mamic is the biggest enemy of Real Madrid, and everything happening over the last few months has been a perfect tool to take him down.
I swear, I’ve got zero clue what’s happening now, just 36 hours before we head out...
Anyone with half a brain should have been proud of how we hosted the visiting fans in New York City, and how we owned the beach scene in Miami....and then one night, everything just goes up in smoke??? Look, someone claimed the younger guys chickened out, fine, whatever, but I don't get why the "greater goal" is ruined because of some petty scuffle. Maybe I'm missing something. But if I'm the one who's lost, then half the people on both sides were equally clueless after that happened. All in all, I've spent a long time in the stands, I actually use my head, and I refuse to be held hostage by the actions of a few individuals within the group I belong to. Let's be clear: if the fans had attacked the Bad Boys—if they had done something to prove that all the peace treaties we've worked so hard on lately were dead—then sure, I'd be right there defending that first line of defense. But what about now? Now I know most of us want peace. Most of the guys I know in the BBB want a truce too, at least until things settle down in American soccer. But does anyone actually care what I, or anyone else using their brain, thinks?
Man, I just watched this video from Cleveland and it’s honestly chilling. Look at the whole situation—the numbers are absolutely pathetic. And then there's the broadcast. Honestly, once those guys started rooting and saw what the East looks like from the stands and the bench, it must have hit them like a ton of bricks that this season is going to be pure chaos. It’s probably keeping them up at night. If we had at least this many people showing up for every home game, we’d be set. But as it stands? They aren't going to survive this season.
wearyraven25 said:I hope they had recorders running if this is actually true.
I hope they didn't.
Because they wouldn't have heard anything new. We all know what a manipulative, lying, disgusting piece of work he is. We've seen his shows a hundred times; everyone knows who he really is now, and the press release spells out exactly what happened. The guys acted with honor, just like the rest of the movement, which is why we're going to win in the end. Maybe that trash even demanded they stay off camera, so they didn't record. Fighting dirty against scum—that's just how it is.
Jonathan Cook42 said:Lakers win. It’s obvious. They dominate the court while everyone else just struggles to keep up. Total blowout.
This looks intense. It’s actually pretty optimistic. Now we just need the rest of the media outlets that aren't under direct control to jump on this. Honestly, though, I still don't get how the Tampa Bay Buccaneers management has been acting for years now. Why aren't they seizing opportunities like this? You'd think they wouldn't be paying for this kind of stuff either. 🤷