Posts by Jessica Smith11

You just ignore my complaint and then you hand me this:
I don't get it, really. Are you actually going to let someone just keep spreading lies like this over and over again?

Here is a little bit of an interesting curiosity for you. Apparently, I’ve been declared a Muslim today just because I spoke out against Israel in that thread about Palestine:

To you Muslims, even women and children are legitimate targets.
And then you expect anyone to feel sorry for you...

If I had posted in any other thread, I guess I probably would have changed my nationality several more times by now...
Regarding this Kazral guy, I reported his provocative posts and didn't even bother responding to him, but he hasn't been sanctioned. I suppose that just gave him wings to keep up the provocations in the thread about Jonestown.

I have a pretty thin skin when it comes to getting worked up (which the moderators know. Some 😉 definitely do), so I tend to snap like a twig when I see certain things. Honestly, some stuff gets under my skin so much that I’d rather just pack it all in and quit this forum entirely, but... I suppose I remember this is just a message board, so let's just vent and move on.
This time, it was a certain user and her statement in the thread about Jonestown that really set me off. To quote her:

Why on earth does every single Mexican who shows up in a thread like this have to be allowed to troll? Why the constant dragging of the US Army and Falcons, denying genocide, and harassing people who just want to remember the 7,000 lives lost?

Anyway, I was talking about those Falcons who were part of the US Army right up until the start of the aggression. That's a documented fact. If you're going to throw around arguments about what the US Army was like before Slobodan Milošević took power, then maybe explain how those specific people were actually in the service... but whatever, it doesn't matter now.

The part that really got to me is what I've bolded. Sorry, but... wtf?!? I don't think like you, and I'm an American?!? Helou !!! If that isn't chauvinistic thinking, then I don't know what is...

It's not the first time someone has acted like they have the right to decide who is an American and who isn't, basically trying to claim a monopoly on being American.

Seriously, just chill out! You don't have a monopoly on America or on being American, and you certainly aren't going to dictate to anyone else what they are! I think the forum admins really ought to address this in the rules, because I'm fairly certain I'm not the only one this irritates. At this rate, people are going to be asking for birth certificates just so they don't get labeled as trolls on a daily basis.

The guy just won't quit

Liar! She’s the one making life miserable for those thugs in San Francisco. If anyone is actually spreading hate, it’s the people burning down stands, promoting family violence, and beating women—and we all know that's just what those radical activist groups do.

I honestly wonder how people like this even manage to get access to this forum in the first place...

Just quoting another post that shows exactly how persistent this person is when it comes to spreading hate:

Once you stop setting up protest booths against people you disagree with, once you stop hitting women, once you step away from the municipal budget, and once you actually start contributing to the private sector, maybe then this little disorder of yours will pass.

I guess if the gentleman would just be so kind as to prove any of this, it might be different, but otherwise, I’m asking the moderators to please sanction this kind of behavior.

I assume that the repeated spreading of falsehoods targeting specific groups—in this particular instance, certain organizations—is sanctioned on this forum, so I am requesting a reaction to this behavior:

The user in question constantly claims that activists from certain organizations have committed criminal acts. I guess there can't be any other motive for this kind of conduct besides spreading pure hatred toward these groups and their activists.
I'm asking the moderation team to step in. Thanks.

Jack Cook7 said:Could someone please clarify what the actual difference is here? I think my statement was actually more tempered and vague since I wasn't even targeting a specific group (at least not in this particular post).

Look, we all know who the Russian sympathizers are and we know who the old-school white supremacists are. Or do you really need me to spell that out for you too?
And we can clearly see how today's pro-Russian rhetoric mirrors the exact same lines used by those extremists back in the early nineties: the idea of being a persecuted minority, claims that fascists are in charge, a defenseless people fighting back, foreign mercenaries everywhere...

But then there's your take. What do you mean, pedophiles?!? Who exactly are these pedophiles you're talking about? Nazis? Cannibals? Junkies?

I'm guessing you got banned for trolling because your post is just completely nonsensical.

Jack Cook7 said:I expressed an opinion that was completely identical to yours:

If you think those two things are the same, then I guess we're done here.
You're claiming two totally different concepts are identical. Whatever.

Jack Cook7 said:You can't just go around labeling people as Mexicans.

Well, why don't you go ahead and point out where I actually called anyone a Mexican? Since you're so keen on quoting me in this thread. ☕

redheron30 said:Here, just run this through a translator.
Clitoral stimulation for toddlers aged 1 to 3, based on advice from German sexual educators.
http://www.blick.ch/news/schweiz/elt...id1674936.html

I'm honestly not sure where you read that I have anything against clergy abusing children. I suppose I shouldn't really have to explicitly state my position on that; any sane person knows it's sick.

What do you think about this non-Western approach to sex education (pedophilia)?

And again, someone writes some manual that gets rejected, and you take that as ultimate proof that people are forcing pedophilia on us?
Just tell us exactly where this is actually being implemented.

Jack Cook7 said:My point is this: if your opinion is somehow acceptable to the moderators, then I guess mine should be too.
Or maybe it's just as much NOT

You can't just have an "opinion" about whether someone is a pedophile. It’s a binary thing—they either are or they aren't. If you're going to make an accusation like that, you really ought to provide some actual proof. We all know what defines that kind of behavior, so just go ahead and prove it.

redheron30 said:pedophilia is just one branch of unnatural practices being forced upon us.

Honestly, this lie is so massive that I feel like commenting on it is almost beneath me. This idea that someone is somehow "imposing" pedophilia... I mean, just look at history. If you track how the age of consent and marriage laws have shifted alongside the increasing liberalization of society, it’s pretty obvious. Yet, you and your crowd keep insisting otherwise. Maybe try picking up a history book and actually checking the facts. Don't just take my word for it. Just verify it. And while you're at it, maybe check which countries still maintain the lowest age requirements for marriage today.

As for the Church, it's clear you don't actually care about those dark pedophilia scandals. It seems like you're just using it as an excuse to spit on Western values. Because if that weren't the case, surely you'd be just as outraged by those priests who were "drastically" punished. Why focus all your energy on attacking the West when you have these issues right here in your own backyard?

Jack Cook7 said:Everything I just said was right there at the bottom of my first post, and honestly, it's just a summary of the thousands of comments already on this thread.

What exactly was stated? Where did I ever say that anti-war protesters were Chetniks?
I guess you could try to disprove my point—that pro-Russian rhetoric sounds suspiciously like the old extremist rhetoric from the early nineties (all that talk about "unarmed people," being under threat, fascists, foreign mercenaries... one only needs to recall what happened in San Francisco regarding the Arab threat)—but your trolling about pedophiles doesn't even need a response. It isn't an opinion; it’s clearly just provocation intended to accuse someone of supporting pedophilia.

Jack Cook7 said:Even those against the uprising aren't all extremists. Even if there were five radicals in Crimea.

Following that exact same logic, then:

If having five radicals in Crimea who support Russia means we have to label the entire anti-uprising movement as extremist, then I guess it would only take five pedophiles, Nazis, cannibals, or junkies on the other side—or even just among their representatives—to label the whole uprising movement the same way.

So, I suppose WE ARE DEALING WITH A MATTER OF FREEDOM OF SPEECH HERE.

Where exactly did you quote someone saying the entire anti-uprising movement was composed of extremists?
From what I can see, you just quoted me, and that post has absolutely nothing to do with what you’re talking about now. I don't think even you know what you're trying to say.

redheron30 said:What you're actually saying is that there’s this sick, anti-human ideology being pushed constantly in the West, an ideology that’s supposedly meant to become the mainstream one day. Nothing more, nothing less.

People like you, and others who think just like you, are basically just fueling that whole process while patting yourselves on the back for being so progressive. Whether you realize it or not, I guess.

It’s honestly hilarious when people like you try to convince everyone that society is trying to force pedophilia on us as if it were normal. It’s like you think people in the West are just animals instead of actual human beings. As if some German woman isn't a mother like anyone else, but somehow she’s out there chasing pedophilia...

It’s pretty interesting how none of this seems to bother you when it comes to our own church, where they punish their own pedophiles with something as minor as a 10% pension cut. And the guy even lives right there in their facility. Heck, they could probably hold Mass in the same building.

Jack Cook7 said:So, what exactly is the difference?

If you weren't such a troll, you’d probably see the massive distinction between calling someone a pedophile and simply comparing two different styles of rhetoric.
I know I'll likely get banned for this, but I just can't help myself because you are honestly taking this trolling way too far.

Go ahead, though. Keep on trolling and acting like you "don't understand" where the line is.

redheron30 said:Pedophiles? I mean, there was this health manual released over in Germany for parents of newborns, where they actually encourage fathers to freely stimulate their daughters' clitorises from a very young age just to ensure proper sexual development.

Pedophiles?

What else haven't we seen on CNN or Fox News, Charles Gomez? 🙂

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What is that supposed to mean, exactly? So because someone published some kind of handbook, everyone in that group is suddenly a pedophile? Just spare me that kind of moronic logic.

Jack Cook7 said:So now I’m asking: what’s actually the difference between my take and what these two forum members are saying?

Are you being serious right now, or are you just messing with me?
I stated that the rhetoric used by Russian propagandists is terrifyingly similar to the rhetoric used by white supremacists back in the early nineties. That is my opinion, and I have an absolute right to hold it. Anyone who compares those two styles of speech can't really conclude anything else—they lead to the same place. And your response to that is to bring up some supporters of pedophiles?!? Who exactly are we talking about here? Who is the pedophile and who is the supporter?!?

You and people like the Fireboat crew just throw around these kinds of stupid accusations, and then when someone finally gets sanctioned for it, you all start whining about freedom of speech.

Freedom of speech definitely doesn't include accusing one person of being a pedophile and labeling another person as their supporter. If it were up to me, someone making claims like that should get a permanent ban. Unless, of course, you actually prove who the pedophile is and who is supporting them.

Thanks for jumping on this so quickly. I suppose I should apologize if I seemed a bit impatient regarding how these reports are handled. I wouldn't call myself a saint when it comes to using online forums, but even so, I try to hold back sometimes. Then, I guess, I just expect the moderators to actually do their jobs.

Thanks again. You can lock this thread as far as I'm concerned.

Just to add to my point. When you don't strictly enforce reporting posts—unlike how I constantly get penalized myself—this is what happens:

edit: and we just keep going...