Posts by Karen Sanchez19

You claim most people have reached enlightenment, but I couldn't disagree more...

So, where does that leave us?😁 😁

I can’t recall a single Christian saint—any saint at all, really—who supposedly summoned a stork by rubbing their testicles.

The real question remains: DID THE STORK actually arrive?😉

As far as Christian saints are concerned, that's my stance...

Regarding these Yoga teachings—I haven't even encountered anything similar to Nanda before...
Once I've read through it—assuming I actually get around to it—I'll let you know what I think...

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At this point, we aren't even debating the method of enlightenment. We are questioning if enlightenment is even possible. That is my claim: 99.9999% of these "masters" are nothing but frauds.

Karen Sanchez19 clearly knows more than I ever will.

Whether I actually know what I'm talking about is debatable... I'm just stating my piece.😁

The goose is roasting, and I'm just here for the drumstick. (by Mark Twain).

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Ask yourself that. I couldn't care less about "liberation," because I honestly can't grasp what exactly there is to be liberated from...

Misery rules everything at sixteen😁

We already established that, aside from Ramana, a single example isn't enough—especially since he actually demanded sadhana from his own students.

So, I’m asserting that 99.99% of them are frauds...

Finding someone like Ramana, let alone anyone else, is a tall order...

Not that I've devoured an endless library of books myself...

So, out of that 99.999% of public figures who left nothing but a mess behind, you're picking the one guy who was just scratching himself while the universe delivered everything to him?

No, rather from 100 minus 99.999%, which leaves 0.0001%.
That percentage is far too microscopic for me to go hunting for someone..

In your eyes, every enlightened master is legitimate... so tell me, what actual evidence do you have that they aren't just playing a part?

Oh, when an enlightened being such as yourself speaks, it must be the absolute, unvarnished truth. We mere mortals—uninformed, insignificant little things—have no choice but to bow before your lofty wisdom, your vast intellect, and your endless knowledge.

You don't have to accept anything, and I'm certainly not demanding it from you.😉

But let’s face it: most of these celebrity Gurus love nothing more than pinning a man's sins on his own shoulders.

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Quincy:

What was that absolute predator doing, cornering a terrified seven-year-old kid without any parents around in his little criminal hideout?

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Quincy:

She just seems to pick those who demonstrate some semblance of ambition and effort.

Still waiting... you haven't even managed to name a single person like that yet.

Are rumors circulating through the streets of India supposed to be proof of someone's enlightenment???

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Quincy:

I agree—there are millions of fakes out there. So tell me, who actually counts as a real teacher?

The ones for whom no "spiritual path" even exists...

The ones where enlightenment isn't some prize won through endless labor...

Those who refuse to be shackled by rigid patterns or dogmatic rules.

The ones who don't play by the laws of cause and effect, or the concept of karma and retribution.
Those who don't point fingers at people, blaming them for their own karma.
And those who don't insist that humans possess free will...

Doesn't that all sound a bit absurd?

It’s like saying, "I'll just sit and meditate for eight hours a day, follow this specific recipe, and boom—I'm enlightened in twenty years." It’s nonsense.

Quincy:

I was asking you first. Name just one who isn't a fraud.

About 99.9999% of them aren't. It shouldn't be hard to guess.
(And obviously, I’m talking about public figures—those who have built an entire brand around themselves.)

Quincy:

But I think you mentioned Nisargadatta?

I doubt it...

If you want someone to pick apart the flaws of various "masters," ask Ivek. He's much better at finding faults than I am.

Quincy:

Alright, your turn. Name one who hasn't "done" anything.

Well, I brought up Raman myself...

There's an endless mountain of writings out there, but you're just trapped by your own narrow little concept of Truth.

The reality is that the VAST MAJORITY of these texts are cluttered with nonsense about Gods, Angels, and other imaginary entities.

Hardly any of these works are actually PURE—meaning stripped of those useless, distracting, false patterns...

Take Raman and perhaps a few others (to a lesser extent, maybe Germaine); they are CLEAN. Everything else is just garbage...
(And I mean the absolute bottom-of-the-barrel junk I've stumbled upon)

Do you honestly believe the purpose of life is as cheap as empty rhetoric? Is it enough to simply accumulate knowledge, as if knowing things somehow equates to actually living them? It’s all just noise. Knowing isn't doing. Knowledge without action is nothing more than a hollow collection of facts—as worthless as a handful of counterfeit bills.

The purpose of life? It’s free. No entry fee, no subscription required, no hidden charges tucked away in the fine print. You don't have to buy it, and you certainly can't lose it. It's just sitting there, waiting.🙂

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Preparation and actual practice constitute the lion's share of the work—far more than the initial initiation itself. Anyone can pick up a book by Raman and grasp his teachings intellectually. You can even claim to have some level of experiential understanding and hold a conversation about it at a dinner party. But does that make you Raman? This thread is about the path of the seeker. How many seekers, regardless of how much they talk, actually reach their destination without years of grueling effort alongside masters and gurus? Do you honestly believe the purpose of life is as cheap as the words we use to describe it? Is simply knowing something enough to actually live it?

There is a massive chasm between intellectual comprehension and true acceptance. Most people simply refuse to cross it. They settle for understanding the concept—they can recite the theory, nod along to the logic, and play the part of the scholar—but they reject the actual surrender required to live it. It’s all head knowledge, zero heart.

Quincy:

I haven't actually experienced one firsthand—at least, I don't think I have—so how on earth am I supposed to describe it?

You’re already feeling the sting... it won't be long now.🙂 🙂 🙂

Sure, you can wait. You could spend thousands of lifetimes just drifting, letting "experience" chip away at you bit by bit. If you have that kind of patience. But if you’re truly, desperately thirsty, you aren't sitting around waiting for some stranger to show up and invite you out for a drink. You’re out there fighting for water. If you aren't desperate, you don't need water. And if you don't need it, why would anyone bother giving it to you?

Theories like this put you right in line with the millions of fake gurus flooding the market these days...

p.s. try finding me a single saint who actually reached the finish line without putting in any work.

Go ahead. NAME JUST ONE master (besides Raman) who achieved enlightenment through their own labor. Just one. Go on...😉 😁

Time is slipping through our fingers, life is far too short for endless talk. Forget the theories—grab your tools and get to work.

With a statement like that, you’ve laid your entire hand on the table. You've made your position crystal clear... No further explanation is required from your side.🙂 🙂 🙂

We would all be far better off spending just fifteen minutes morning and night in prayer or meditation—maybe even picking up some daily readings from sacred texts, biographies of saints, or spiritual writings—instead of this mindless, endless keyboard warfare we call communication.

The actual "sacred texts" available in this world are incredibly scarce...

Everything else is just pure LIES.😉 🙏 😎 😁

Someone who walked out of their house at seven years old just to hunt down a guru, spending every single year since then grinding through spiritual practice—that person has bled for it. Opportunities like that don't just fall into your lap like a free lunch.

Dammit... if this forum had existed back then 😂 🙂 🙂

it’s all about that intense, driving hunger and the actual work.

Work....

Like Motika and manual labor 🙂

Suppose you were some top-tier professional sports coach.

Enlightenment isn't some trade or a technical skill you pick up 😉

If we actually gave a damn about Nirvana, about reaching God, about finding the truth, we wouldn't be wasting our breath babbling on internet forums. What would a master even care about a bunch of losers like us?

There was a time when you had to move heaven and earth to find anything. Nowadays, you can flip the whole world upside down with just two mouse clicks 😉

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Savikalpa, nirvikalpa,

Could someone please translate this into English and break down all the different levels of Nirvana for me?

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As for me, I think I’ll ultimately refrain from walking in the footsteps of master Masturb-Disturb.

Perhaps your libido has already hit rock bottom.🙂 🙂 🙂 😂😂

Blind Kakadu 😂😂

Usranus:

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Whoops. Watch your step, or you might just catch Gaudrath's eye😂😂🙂

I knew it was nothing but a total disaster🙂 😁

firefighter 😂😂