Posts by William Roberts3

Jacob Sanchez7 said:But you caught on...
Without water, there is no Gatorade. Water is the fundamental element; any additive merely clouds its clarity. In humans, water is clouded by thoughts, feelings, belief systems, and so on. But if you operate like a river, nothing can ever cloud you because everything simply flows through. It’s that moment of realization where you recognize something—not as something "new" or something "earned through struggle," but as something that was always present. It is the base of everything.

Everything beyond that point of recognition must be discovered for yourself. It's an individual experience, and it manifests differently for everyone.

Fixed.

Emotions are essentially a bodily sense. They signal various chemical balances and imbalances occurring within the body, as well as certain things outside the body (intuition is one such emotion). The actual chemical life of an emotion lasts from five seconds to five minutes max. Anything lasting longer than that is just mental repetition, not sincere emotion. Basically, emotions that live longer than that are illusions; they have no basis in reality, only in our heads.

🙂 So cool! 👍

Jeffrey Fisher5 said:😉
writing on this forum... likewise

I suppose I am an old soul in that regard; it has always been clear to me that I won't be taking anything from this material world with me when I go (and I realized that long before reaching retirement age). A small part of me finds people rather predictable—their actions rarely catch me off guard—I often have this feeling: *deja vu*.
Even as a child, I possessed a temperament far beyond my years; I was self-taught—or rather, I recall being able to—to read and write well before even starting elementary school, picked up foreign languages without any real struggle, read serious literature by the age of ten, and harbored a profound, soul-deep loathing for mathematics...😂 I knew instinctively it wouldn't serve me much (and indeed, outside of basic daily needs, it hasn't).
I genuinely enjoy people; I like helping them whenever and however I can. People generally enjoy talking, and many have told me that a conversation with me brings them a sense of calm—though I am certainly no licensed therapist😉—and I find it remarkably easy to connect with anyone, anywhere; I can almost immediately sense what is weighing on the person I'm speaking with...
I am a decent listener...
But truthfully, I am happiest in the tranquility of my own home, surrounded by my roses, my animals (and I don't just mean pets), and my books... I take great pleasure in doing everything for my children, yet I find even more joy in exchanging thoughts and experiences with them without ever overstepping into their private lives.

If I am, by chance, already so close to fulfillment, well... I think I would much rather be a young soul. Just so I could continue gathering experiences in the future, because I am genuinely curious to see what becomes of things in 100, or 500 years, and so on.

ah... maybe you're already there, and as you just need one tiny little "shift"🙂

I was just thinking back to this incredible, heavy, deep experience I had about a year ago.
It's honestly hard to put into words, but here goes:

I was just chilling on my balcony when suddenly this intense, blissful rush hit me. It was like my entire being was overwhelmed by this massive surge of pure euphoria. Everything felt like it was vibrating in perfect harmony... it's hard to even describe.
After a few moments (not sure how long it lasted), this internal dialogue started playing out with all these visual elements.
I felt the Sun City, I was "in" the Sun City, and I felt this connection that goes way beyond just a word. I *was* the Sun City!
Then, a moment later, I became a brilliant ray of light. As that ray, I started drifting away from the blissful Sun City and this unimaginable, infinite vastness, and that's when the conversation between the Sun City and me—the ray—began.

Me as the ray drifting away from the Sun City while seeing countless other bright rays shooting out from it: "Father (=Sun City), I want to be with you!" (feeling this deep sadness about leaving him.) Why would he be a symbolic father 🤷

The Sun City: "Don't be afraid and don't grieve. I am You! (You = the ray). I am the Sun City expressed through your light. And I am all those other rays too—I am the Father and Mother of all rays, all things, and everything.

The ray: But I want to be with you! 🙂

The Sun City: You already are with me, because I am You!
All you have to do is radiate me through that light. Your life is your light, and that life, along with you, is entirely Me. We are One. Every other ray is also Me—the Sun City—expressed through a unique, one-of-a-kind individual life. You just need to live that life, whatever it looks like. Just know that it's Me, the Sun City, which is the same as You. You are the Sun City! You are My expression and manifestation.
You aren't leaving anyone, even if it feels that way. Just realize that it's Me, the Sun City, in the "expressed" form of your ever-changing life.
It's the realization that all rays are just the Sun City in some temporary, "expressed" form.

Did it change my life? Absolutely!
I know now that God—or whatever we call Him—is always with me, creating everything that happens. He "works" and "acts" through my decisions and actions, basically "through me." It’s the same for everyone else and everything else. Even the laws of nature are just the "thoughts" of God.

Just "know" that you are You, Everyone, and the whole Golden State.

I honestly feel like I'm just caught in this massive flow where everything happens so "easy and effortless," no matter how you look at it 🙂
Whatever life throws my way, it’s always intense and vivid, and I am fully alive right there with it! I'm living life to the fullest—open mind, zero baggage...

They say angels fly because they aren't weighed down by anything...🙂 There's no way they'd catch air if they were heavy.

I'm basically a Human Being flying while walking the earth. 🙂

I really resonate with this right now http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_%28psychology%29

nimblewolf11 said:And honestly, it goes even deeper than that! Even the same person, just by shifting their perspective, can view the exact same phenomenon through completely different lenses. This means that one single occurrence could leave an observer feeling anything from a faint impression to something mid-range, or even incredibly intense...

But see, that's where you're tripping yourself up! You're incorrectly grouping other types of experiences into this "emotional" category as if emotion is the only source of experience. The truth is, those other experiences directly influence our emotions, the quality of our thoughts, and pretty much everything else—but we aren't talking about emotional rushes or similar whims as the primary experience here. What you're describing is actually a secondary consequence. I think maybe some people confuse various emotional sensations with things that exist entirely outside of emotion and imagination, and that leads them totally astray, but that's just not the case!

If, say, there really was a shift in consciousness—whether brief or long-lasting—then emotions and thoughts start to feel more like objects being observed—just something secondary in the "order" of things.

🙂 That’s actually what's pushing me to try describing my vision through multiple angles or paradigms, metaphors, sides... though I'm definitely no pro at writing or storytelling. 🤷
I really want to explain these visions as simply as possible, but I'm still struggling to find the right way to put it all out there. I just can't find the right words; they don't exist. Language feels so limiting sometimes, and honestly, words are prone to being misinterpreted, which can accidentally offend someone. Or it's just frustrating because the mind wants to grasp something that the "mind" just isn't built to understand.

But I feel like when I write from the paradigm consciousness angle, I'm mostly talking to the "intellect," the "masculine," the "logic," because people tend to lean toward that more "intellectual" vibe and get hooked on paradigm consciousness.
The life paradigm is more about the "heart," the "feminine," the "soul." Life is just this wild dance of being yourself.
I'm also trying to describe my view through the "awakening" paradigm, where you "become" the awareness of your own dream and start living lucidly.
Then there's the illusion paradigm... you see how much people struggle because of illusions, and while trapped in one, they just create an even bigger one! It makes me feel so much compassion, but also kind of baffled as to why people do this to themselves over something so illusory. Just endless delusions...
Sometimes, those "simple" lines from various "sages, writers, spiritualists, free spirits, anonymous sources, or holy books" can be a massive window into infinity. For some people, just a few words is all it takes.

wearyowl29 said:I think I drifted in and out of consciousness a few times.

I couldn't even tell what time it was because the blackout curtains were pulled shut...

either you reached "awakening" and then "fell asleep" while still being "awake." 🙂

Seriously, tell us more about that, even just a little bit 🙂
...

Peter Phillips32 said:That’s how you can justify basically any belief system out there: Catholics, Muslims, Hare Krishnas, Sai Baba followers, Eckhart Tolle fans, Osho disciples, astrology buffs, or even those convinced they were abducted by aliens.

And honestly, I really don't get why I should stick with something just because I felt some sort of "peak experience" that seemed like the best thing ever at the time. Since when did an emotional high or being chemically intoxicated by a feeling become proof that some baseless idea is actually true? Because if these ideas actually made sense, they could answer two simple questions in a way that actually holds water, but they can't.

all that arguing and snarking just becomes an incredibly exhausting, pointless waste of energy.....

Yeah, I hear you, I totally get where you're coming from. When you're busy validating everyone else who thinks exactly like you and preaches exactly like you, suddenly you're overflowing with infinite love, gratitude, and a deep connection to the universe.

But the moment you have to go toe-to-toe with someone who doesn't see eye-to-eye with you, suddenly talking becomes a "pointless drain on your energy," and anyone with a different opinion gets labeled as an agitator, a negative person, or just someone being a jerk.

Because when you're backing up your own tribe, words carry weight and meaning, but when you're dealing with dissenters, words apparently lose all their power to describe reality.

No biggie. Just toss my opinions aside, and once you decide I'm too far gone, you can go right back to feeling that "infinite love and oneness" with everything—except, of course, with anyone who disagrees.

I'm an atheist who hasn't touched a spiritual book in 30 years; I used to be able to explain everything through brain chemistry and biology, but when the shift happened, I knew exactly what was going on... I wasn't confused, I didn't need explanations... everything was clear and everything was already inside me.

This is just a variation of the appeal to authority fallacy. It doesn't matter that you were an atheist before or how many years it's been.

Sure, you could explain everything via neurons and chemicals, but you can't answer two basic questions without getting all muddy and poetic about it. It's not even a question. Why on earth would you trade clarity for total ambiguity just because you had an emotional binge?

😢 I totally get where you're coming from! Those mental battles are brutal, exhausting, and just plain frustrating, and they usually just end up making everything feel even heavier. It’s because you're focusing right on them. Honestly, the thoughts themselves aren't even that big of a deal.

I really feel for you because I've been exactly where you are. Just take a breather, put on some Enigma, and let your thoughts flow "without thinking about them"—just let them drift wherever they want, or let them leave on their own accord... they always eventually wander off by themselves....... just let go without trying to let go...........

Anthony Cook8 said:I’ve started this thread because I’d love to hear about your own experiences with waking up. It’s such a personal part of the day, isn't it?
Nobody asked for your opinion, your lectures, or your negativity. Honestly, nobody requested your take on a situation you haven't even lived through personally, so I have to wonder—why do you feel such a desperate need to meddle?

Nobody here is asking for help or expressing any doubt. It honestly makes me wonder why you’re even hanging around this thread. You clearly don't belong in this circle, yet you're still here despite having nothing to contribute.

Star, just listen to that P. S. advice, it's solid. Don't waste too much of your endless light on things that don't matter...

slynomad79 said:All these "theories" are either true or false—or, as you put it, right or wrong. Everyone is entitled to their own perspective on reality and their own opinions. Unfortunately, those at the top dictate what most people accept as truth based on their own biases. It’s that classic "I knew it all along" effect seen in the immature, indecisive, and insecure crowds... which happens to be the majority. Sadly. As for me... I once had a moment where I actually predicted a very simple event. That was my brush with the supernatural. Personally, I believe terms like prophecy, clairvoyance, telepathy, or lucid dreaming are essentially the SAME THING. It's just like when you realize your best friend is hurting, and after a few words, you suddenly understand why even though they haven't said a word. This is simply a "higher," more evolved level that occurs, I'd say, in people with a much more developed sense of consciousness and self-awareness.

That's just how it is for now 🙂 😉

slynomad79 said:All these "theories" are either true or false—or, as you put it, right or wrong. Everyone is entitled to their own perspective on reality and their own opinions. Unfortunately, those at the top dictate what most people accept as truth based on their own biases. It’s that classic "I knew it all along" effect seen in the immature, indecisive, and insecure crowds... which happens to be the majority. Sadly. As for me... I once had a moment where I actually predicted a very simple event. That was my brush with the supernatural. Personally, I believe terms like prophecy, clairvoyance, telepathy, or lucid dreaming are essentially the SAME THING. It's just like when you realize your best friend is hurting, and after a few words, you suddenly understand why even though they haven't said a word. This is simply a "higher," more evolved level that occurs, I'd say, in people with a much more developed sense of consciousness and self-awareness.

Totally agree! All these different but identical concepts really just point back to one normal way of seeing things, no matter how they show up. They just pop up effortlessly whenever they need to...

You just "know" 🤷
But how do you "know"? You don't have a clue 🙂 it just happens. It guides you... you aren't floating "with" the whole thing... you ARE the Whole...

slynomad79 said:All these "theories" are either true or false—or, as you put it, right or wrong. Everyone is entitled to their own perspective on reality and their own opinions. Unfortunately, those at the top dictate what most people accept as truth based on their own biases. It’s that classic "I knew it all along" effect seen in the immature, indecisive, and insecure crowds... which happens to be the majority. Sadly. As for me... I once had a moment where I actually predicted a very simple event. That was my brush with the supernatural. Personally, I believe terms like prophecy, clairvoyance, telepathy, or lucid dreaming are essentially the SAME THING. It's just like when you realize your best friend is hurting, and after a few words, you suddenly understand why even though they haven't said a word. This is simply a "higher," more evolved level that occurs, I'd say, in people with a much more developed sense of consciousness and self-awareness.

And man, we are so "close" to that "higher," "advanced" "level."
But people with "unrefined" or "lower" levels of Consciousness can reach that same "level" too...🙂

I'd really love to see Popokatepetl and Teotihuacán one day, and I "know" I will...

🙂 Don't hate me, I just have to weigh in, I really don't mean any harm...

mistysailor23 said:Don't take this the wrong way—I have to comment, and I mean no harm.
Why is it that whenever we encounter an omnipresent Trinity, we try to explain it in a way that makes us forget everything we actually knew? Our mathematical logic simply doesn't square with that statement. Honestly, trying to make sense of claims like these is enough to drive a person mad. You’re offering me an obvious falsehood as a definition for everything, but by that very definition, everything becomes a lie and truth ceases to exist.

From a Catholic standpoint—where any claim lacking a biblical foundation is considered occultism—this kind of assertion falls right into that category. It’s pulling its roots from Greek philosophical thought rather than scripture.

I don't truly know Brahma, Vishnu, or Shiva, so a deeper commentary on them would be pointless.

However, I do like this part: The Observer, the Act of Observation, and the object being observed.
There’s a certain point here regarding the mechanics of sight that allows us to perceive an object. You’ve reduced the entire process down to two objects and one action, but in reality, what you see depends on so much more. For instance, the color of the light hitting the object... or if it's pitch black, there is no observation at all. You could stare until you're blue in the face and see absolutely nothing.

And if one God truly has multiple faces, then surely there aren't just three, but an infinite number (from a human perspective, anyway).

If we look at a 2D triangle, it comes out as the most perfect structural shape, and we can fit it inside a circle.
Now, try imagining a 3D object with only three flat sides and attempt to fit it inside a sphere. For example, a tetrahedron has four sides, which is the absolute minimum. Now, maybe that's a bit of a tangent, but I'm just applying math to our points of view and our capacity for perception... 🤷

But what do we actually know??? 🤷 Look, I KNOW that statement, period!!!
There’s zero math logic involved here?! An actual math professor would kick me out of class instantly, though man, that would be hilarious to watch. 🤣
Sure, I’m offering an obvious lie, but I'm also offering an obvious truth. A truth so simple and blatant that even the most brilliant, genius minds can't grasp it! That's why they need all that complicated, defining, analytical, heavy mental industry. But despite all that, it isn't THAT.🙂 And the lie is obvious because you're expressing yourself through it. 😉

There's no truth left when "Truth" is "figured out" <----- Just try not to blow a fuse thinking about that one.

mistysailor23 said:Don't take this the wrong way—I have to comment, and I mean no harm.
Why is it that whenever we encounter an omnipresent Trinity, we try to explain it in a way that makes us forget everything we actually knew? Our mathematical logic simply doesn't square with that statement. Honestly, trying to make sense of claims like these is enough to drive a person mad. You’re offering me an obvious falsehood as a definition for everything, but by that very definition, everything becomes a lie and truth ceases to exist.

From a Catholic standpoint—where any claim lacking a biblical foundation is considered occultism—this kind of assertion falls right into that category. It’s pulling its roots from Greek philosophical thought rather than scripture.

I don't truly know Brahma, Vishnu, or Shiva, so a deeper commentary on them would be pointless.

However, I do like this part: The Observer, the Act of Observation, and the object being observed.
There’s a certain point here regarding the mechanics of sight that allows us to perceive an object. You’ve reduced the entire process down to two objects and one action, but in reality, what you see depends on so much more. For instance, the color of the light hitting the object... or if it's pitch black, there is no observation at all. You could stare until you're blue in the face and see absolutely nothing.

And if one God truly has multiple faces, then surely there aren't just three, but an infinite number (from a human perspective, anyway).

If we look at a 2D triangle, it comes out as the most perfect structural shape, and we can fit it inside a circle.
Now, try imagining a 3D object with only three flat sides and attempt to fit it inside a sphere. For example, a tetrahedron has four sides, which is the absolute minimum. Now, maybe that's a bit of a tangent, but I'm just applying math to our points of view and our capacity for perception... 🤷

So you're judging my expression from a Catholic perspective? 🙂
Do I even need to respond to that???

mistysailor23 said:Don't take this the wrong way—I have to comment, and I mean no harm.
Why is it that whenever we encounter an omnipresent Trinity, we try to explain it in a way that makes us forget everything we actually knew? Our mathematical logic simply doesn't square with that statement. Honestly, trying to make sense of claims like these is enough to drive a person mad. You’re offering me an obvious falsehood as a definition for everything, but by that very definition, everything becomes a lie and truth ceases to exist.

From a Catholic standpoint—where any claim lacking a biblical foundation is considered occultism—this kind of assertion falls right into that category. It’s pulling its roots from Greek philosophical thought rather than scripture.

I don't truly know Brahma, Vishnu, or Shiva, so a deeper commentary on them would be pointless.

However, I do like this part: The Observer, the Act of Observation, and the object being observed.
There’s a certain point here regarding the mechanics of sight that allows us to perceive an object. You’ve reduced the entire process down to two objects and one action, but in reality, what you see depends on so much more. For instance, the color of the light hitting the object... or if it's pitch black, there is no observation at all. You could stare until you're blue in the face and see absolutely nothing.

And if one God truly has multiple faces, then surely there aren't just three, but an infinite number (from a human perspective, anyway).

If we look at a 2D triangle, it comes out as the most perfect structural shape, and we can fit it inside a circle.
Now, try imagining a 3D object with only three flat sides and attempt to fit it inside a sphere. For example, a tetrahedron has four sides, which is the absolute minimum. Now, maybe that's a bit of a tangent, but I'm just applying math to our points of view and our capacity for perception... 🤷

That's a fair, respectful answer! I'll write about them if the need arises.
Basically, they are just symbols of the "complementary" "forces" of Consciousness. Just a description...

mistysailor23 said:Don't take this the wrong way—I have to comment, and I mean no harm.
Why is it that whenever we encounter an omnipresent Trinity, we try to explain it in a way that makes us forget everything we actually knew? Our mathematical logic simply doesn't square with that statement. Honestly, trying to make sense of claims like these is enough to drive a person mad. You’re offering me an obvious falsehood as a definition for everything, but by that very definition, everything becomes a lie and truth ceases to exist.

From a Catholic standpoint—where any claim lacking a biblical foundation is considered occultism—this kind of assertion falls right into that category. It’s pulling its roots from Greek philosophical thought rather than scripture.

I don't truly know Brahma, Vishnu, or Shiva, so a deeper commentary on them would be pointless.

However, I do like this part: The Observer, the Act of Observation, and the object being observed.
There’s a certain point here regarding the mechanics of sight that allows us to perceive an object. You’ve reduced the entire process down to two objects and one action, but in reality, what you see depends on so much more. For instance, the color of the light hitting the object... or if it's pitch black, there is no observation at all. You could stare until you're blue in the face and see absolutely nothing.

And if one God truly has multiple faces, then surely there aren't just three, but an infinite number (from a human perspective, anyway).

If we look at a 2D triangle, it comes out as the most perfect structural shape, and we can fit it inside a circle.
Now, try imagining a 3D object with only three flat sides and attempt to fit it inside a sphere. For example, a tetrahedron has four sides, which is the absolute minimum. Now, maybe that's a bit of a tangent, but I'm just applying math to our points of view and our capacity for perception... 🤷

🤷 Why even say anything besides "you're overcomplicating it"? It’s honestly just one simple thing...

mistysailor23 said:Don't take this the wrong way—I have to comment, and I mean no harm.
Why is it that whenever we encounter an omnipresent Trinity, we try to explain it in a way that makes us forget everything we actually knew? Our mathematical logic simply doesn't square with that statement. Honestly, trying to make sense of claims like these is enough to drive a person mad. You’re offering me an obvious falsehood as a definition for everything, but by that very definition, everything becomes a lie and truth ceases to exist.

From a Catholic standpoint—where any claim lacking a biblical foundation is considered occultism—this kind of assertion falls right into that category. It’s pulling its roots from Greek philosophical thought rather than scripture.

I don't truly know Brahma, Vishnu, or Shiva, so a deeper commentary on them would be pointless.

However, I do like this part: The Observer, the Act of Observation, and the object being observed.
There’s a certain point here regarding the mechanics of sight that allows us to perceive an object. You’ve reduced the entire process down to two objects and one action, but in reality, what you see depends on so much more. For instance, the color of the light hitting the object... or if it's pitch black, there is no observation at all. You could stare until you're blue in the face and see absolutely nothing.

And if one God truly has multiple faces, then surely there aren't just three, but an infinite number (from a human perspective, anyway).

If we look at a 2D triangle, it comes out as the most perfect structural shape, and we can fit it inside a circle.
Now, try imagining a 3D object with only three flat sides and attempt to fit it inside a sphere. For example, a tetrahedron has four sides, which is the absolute minimum. Now, maybe that's a bit of a tangent, but I'm just applying math to our points of view and our capacity for perception... 🤷

It's just a metaphor! Like a signpost pointing to something way beyond the third concept...
It's like that whole finger pointing at the moon thing... if you point at the word "chicken," is it actually a chicken, or are we just agreeing that it's a chicken? ...

God has an endless, infinite number of faces, and honestly, three isn't even close to enough... that’s just a way to describe the different attributes of Consciousness. It’s like this diamond with infinite facets—some are brilliant and sparkling, others are dull or rough, and you just can't even wrap your head around all the variations. But the best part is that those faces aren't separate from the diamond itself...

mistysailor23 said:Don't take this the wrong way—I have to comment, and I mean no harm.
Why is it that whenever we encounter an omnipresent Trinity, we try to explain it in a way that makes us forget everything we actually knew? Our mathematical logic simply doesn't square with that statement. Honestly, trying to make sense of claims like these is enough to drive a person mad. You’re offering me an obvious falsehood as a definition for everything, but by that very definition, everything becomes a lie and truth ceases to exist.

From a Catholic standpoint—where any claim lacking a biblical foundation is considered occultism—this kind of assertion falls right into that category. It’s pulling its roots from Greek philosophical thought rather than scripture.

I don't truly know Brahma, Vishnu, or Shiva, so a deeper commentary on them would be pointless.

However, I do like this part: The Observer, the Act of Observation, and the object being observed.
There’s a certain point here regarding the mechanics of sight that allows us to perceive an object. You’ve reduced the entire process down to two objects and one action, but in reality, what you see depends on so much more. For instance, the color of the light hitting the object... or if it's pitch black, there is no observation at all. You could stare until you're blue in the face and see absolutely nothing.

And if one God truly has multiple faces, then surely there aren't just three, but an infinite number (from a human perspective, anyway).

If we look at a 2D triangle, it comes out as the most perfect structural shape, and we can fit it inside a circle.
Now, try imagining a 3D object with only three flat sides and attempt to fit it inside a sphere. For example, a tetrahedron has four sides, which is the absolute minimum. Now, maybe that's a bit of a tangent, but I'm just applying math to our points of view and our capacity for perception... 🤷

I don't have the bandwidth for this, and you already know math isn't exactly my thing... 😉
I've got something else on my mind. I’ve basically laid my soul bare through everything I write, so you probably know me better than I even know myself... then you just show up and start throwing your own stuff at me... Just a tiny speck... Come on, you didn't even give us a little intro or open up about who you really are...
So first I’d write out what I actually believe in, like if I'm a Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, or an Atheist...
And I can see how you're being all vague about whether this is Christian, Jewish, or whatever else...
Then why don't you actually pitch an idea for how it should work? It’s easy to just sit there and tear everything apart without even explaining your own perspective...
I only finished my junior year of high school, but that doesn't mean I'm intimidated by people who act all "intellectual" and complicated. Just be fair, be decent, and maybe show a little tolerance once in a while... 😉

For those who skipped the intro, for the ones who need to overanalyze every single comma, for the people looking through distorted lenses, and for the self-proclaimed knights guarding some religion, doctrine, or any "-ism" out there...:

"There’s zero room in this thread for playing games, arguing, judging, proving points, acting superior, or critiquing someone else's 'awakening' experience."
That's because everyone's path and the fallout from their own "awakening" is totally unique. There isn't some high authority on Earth that gets to judge or grade your current or permanent "awakening." Your journey belongs to you and only you! It's one-of-a-kind, but it might resonate with others who've gone through something similar. They'll just... get it. They'll feel that sense of familiarity in your words.

No one should feel threatened by how someone else describes their "spiritual vision." Every single person is unique and carries their own specific experiences. That's just how it works. I mean, what would the point be if we were all identical?
This thread isn't for everyone. If you feel the urge to lecture someone here, honestly, just stop reading and let people express themselves in a free, open, and totally unique way. This isn't about making anyone look smart or pushing some life-saving dogma. We aren't doing critiques, rigid doctrines, heavy mental gymnastics, or proving anything here.
But there is plenty of room for the "heart."

In this space, let the "heart" do the "thinking" instead of the mind.

Let's at least try to be human to one another here, rather than treating each other like enemies...

🤣

Lawrence Torres56 said:Exactly that! Seriously, huge congrats to you—you finally caught that flash and realized the whole "secret" behind the awakening.
Man, we’re all out here chasing this whole "awakening" thing the wrong way, aren't we? We spend our entire lives waiting around for it to come back to us like some lost piece of luggage, but we completely miss the point—we don't realize that when that flash hits, we actually walk away with way more than we ever even asked for.

...........and on top of that, we get this constant "flash" filled with those tiny, incredibly beautiful little "flashes."

👍 🙂 🎉 👋

Reading all that just leaves me feeling extraordinary... honestly, I'm speechless. It feels kind of wrong trying to "turn" something so intense into mere words. Words feel like a single grain of salt tossed into a massive freshwater lake. There’s just no way to describe what the "heart" felt.

rustymaker5 said:I’ve had these few episodes of short-lived "awakenings," you know, those moments where everything is just so undeniably clear, an absolute realization so final it leaves zero room for doubt—that we are all one and this whole sense of separation is nothing more than an illusion. It happened during this meditative visualization exercise where I was imagining swimming alongside a dolphin, and suddenly, while sitting on the shore, I noticed a tree, so vivid that I could distinguish every single leaf, and then one of those leaves started reaching out toward me, growing massive until we just merged into one. Such a beautiful experience of oneness, so calming and filled with such a heavy dose of relief that it fundamentally changed me, though I can't quite put my finger on how exactly...

The next flash of "awakening" was this realization of what it looks like, smells like, sounds like... absolute energy of love. Something indescribable, so gorgeous, deep, and all-encompassing, that for several days I felt this overwhelming surge of happiness just knowing that She is within me and I am within Her.

And then, during one of those dark, crushing moments in life when I was certain my daughter was dying in my arms, this realization flashed through me—so final, bringing such immediate relief because I understood that the only thing truly worth giving to any other human being is what I already carry inside me—love—and that it's the only thing actually worth taking with us when we head back home, because the death of our body is not our death.

After those flashes of realizing who we actually are, I found myself aching for those experiences to repeat, because over time the memories of the feelings that accompanied them start to fade, and I just wanted to feel it all again. Then it hit me... these realizations came from within me, which means those feelings are still there, and I can pull them out whenever I want, which means—I just need to be the person I realized I was. Granted, it isn't exactly "just" that, because illusions are so incredibly convincing they feel entirely real, but there is such relief in knowing that everything is inside you and that at any given moment you can be what we all actually are. But the choice of how we choose to manifest that remains, ultimately, ours alone...

Zero doubts and zero need for questions. That is just so simple that if it were even slightly more complicated, everyone would actually "get it."

rustymaker5 said:I’ve had these few episodes of short-lived "awakenings," you know, those moments where everything is just so undeniably clear, an absolute realization so final it leaves zero room for doubt—that we are all one and this whole sense of separation is nothing more than an illusion. It happened during this meditative visualization exercise where I was imagining swimming alongside a dolphin, and suddenly, while sitting on the shore, I noticed a tree, so vivid that I could distinguish every single leaf, and then one of those leaves started reaching out toward me, growing massive until we just merged into one. Such a beautiful experience of oneness, so calming and filled with such a heavy dose of relief that it fundamentally changed me, though I can't quite put my finger on how exactly...

The next flash of "awakening" was this realization of what it looks like, smells like, sounds like... absolute energy of love. Something indescribable, so gorgeous, deep, and all-encompassing, that for several days I felt this overwhelming surge of happiness just knowing that She is within me and I am within Her.

And then, during one of those dark, crushing moments in life when I was certain my daughter was dying in my arms, this realization flashed through me—so final, bringing such immediate relief because I understood that the only thing truly worth giving to any other human being is what I already carry inside me—love—and that it's the only thing actually worth taking with us when we head back home, because the death of our body is not our death.

After those flashes of realizing who we actually are, I found myself aching for those experiences to repeat, because over time the memories of the feelings that accompanied them start to fade, and I just wanted to feel it all again. Then it hit me... these realizations came from within me, which means those feelings are still there, and I can pull them out whenever I want, which means—I just need to be the person I realized I was. Granted, it isn't exactly "just" that, because illusions are so incredibly convincing they feel entirely real, but there is such relief in knowing that everything is inside you and that at any given moment you can be what we all actually are. But the choice of how we choose to manifest that remains, ultimately, ours alone...

"Perception" expands sooo much that all boundaries just vanish. A seamless, all-encompassing "vision" where the totality of everything is "seen." The "I" and the "Not-I" disappear. The "Me" and that "thing over there" vanish. There is only "that."

rustymaker5 said:I’ve had these few episodes of short-lived "awakenings," you know, those moments where everything is just so undeniably clear, an absolute realization so final it leaves zero room for doubt—that we are all one and this whole sense of separation is nothing more than an illusion. It happened during this meditative visualization exercise where I was imagining swimming alongside a dolphin, and suddenly, while sitting on the shore, I noticed a tree, so vivid that I could distinguish every single leaf, and then one of those leaves started reaching out toward me, growing massive until we just merged into one. Such a beautiful experience of oneness, so calming and filled with such a heavy dose of relief that it fundamentally changed me, though I can't quite put my finger on how exactly...

The next flash of "awakening" was this realization of what it looks like, smells like, sounds like... absolute energy of love. Something indescribable, so gorgeous, deep, and all-encompassing, that for several days I felt this overwhelming surge of happiness just knowing that She is within me and I am within Her.

And then, during one of those dark, crushing moments in life when I was certain my daughter was dying in my arms, this realization flashed through me—so final, bringing such immediate relief because I understood that the only thing truly worth giving to any other human being is what I already carry inside me—love—and that it's the only thing actually worth taking with us when we head back home, because the death of our body is not our death.

After those flashes of realizing who we actually are, I found myself aching for those experiences to repeat, because over time the memories of the feelings that accompanied them start to fade, and I just wanted to feel it all again. Then it hit me... these realizations came from within me, which means those feelings are still there, and I can pull them out whenever I want, which means—I just need to be the person I realized I was. Granted, it isn't exactly "just" that, because illusions are so incredibly convincing they feel entirely real, but there is such relief in knowing that everything is inside you and that at any given moment you can be what we all actually are. But the choice of how we choose to manifest that remains, ultimately, ours alone...

Absolute energy of love = Everything is You. Me. Everyone. Everything.
How can you hate anything when you have "that" kind of Consciousness, as absolute, unconditional, and indivisible love? = Right Now

rustymaker5 said:I’ve had these few episodes of short-lived "awakenings," you know, those moments where everything is just so undeniably clear, an absolute realization so final it leaves zero room for doubt—that we are all one and this whole sense of separation is nothing more than an illusion. It happened during this meditative visualization exercise where I was imagining swimming alongside a dolphin, and suddenly, while sitting on the shore, I noticed a tree, so vivid that I could distinguish every single leaf, and then one of those leaves started reaching out toward me, growing massive until we just merged into one. Such a beautiful experience of oneness, so calming and filled with such a heavy dose of relief that it fundamentally changed me, though I can't quite put my finger on how exactly...

The next flash of "awakening" was this realization of what it looks like, smells like, sounds like... absolute energy of love. Something indescribable, so gorgeous, deep, and all-encompassing, that for several days I felt this overwhelming surge of happiness just knowing that She is within me and I am within Her.

And then, during one of those dark, crushing moments in life when I was certain my daughter was dying in my arms, this realization flashed through me—so final, bringing such immediate relief because I understood that the only thing truly worth giving to any other human being is what I already carry inside me—love—and that it's the only thing actually worth taking with us when we head back home, because the death of our body is not our death.

After those flashes of realizing who we actually are, I found myself aching for those experiences to repeat, because over time the memories of the feelings that accompanied them start to fade, and I just wanted to feel it all again. Then it hit me... these realizations came from within me, which means those feelings are still there, and I can pull them out whenever I want, which means—I just need to be the person I realized I was. Granted, it isn't exactly "just" that, because illusions are so incredibly convincing they feel entirely real, but there is such relief in knowing that everything is inside you and that at any given moment you can be what we all actually are. But the choice of how we choose to manifest that remains, ultimately, ours alone...

Those heavy, gut-wrenching moments? They’re actually hidden gifts, even if they don't feel like it at the time. Just look at the incredible wisdom and grace found in the middle of all that pain, when being Arna, she held her beautiful, dying little girl and felt that sudden sense of peace... rustymaker5, you are such an amazing human being—and I don't mean that like you're better than anyone else. I just mean you're special. I really hope your daughter is out there running around happy today.

Our bodies are kind of like that "little girl" too. Our body is this lifelong companion and friend that'll eventually tell us it's had enough. When that moment comes to say goodbye, we can just thank it for carrying us through all those sweet and bitter moments of life...

Once someone discovers the pure joy that comes from simply Being content, they’ll never be anything less than content. Tao Te Ching

Even in the darkest night, the light shines brightest because we are the ones lighting up the dark.

love = is a fire that burns away every boundary and sense of separation.

rustymaker5 said:I’ve had these few episodes of short-lived "awakenings," you know, those moments where everything is just so undeniably clear, an absolute realization so final it leaves zero room for doubt—that we are all one and this whole sense of separation is nothing more than an illusion. It happened during this meditative visualization exercise where I was imagining swimming alongside a dolphin, and suddenly, while sitting on the shore, I noticed a tree, so vivid that I could distinguish every single leaf, and then one of those leaves started reaching out toward me, growing massive until we just merged into one. Such a beautiful experience of oneness, so calming and filled with such a heavy dose of relief that it fundamentally changed me, though I can't quite put my finger on how exactly...

The next flash of "awakening" was this realization of what it looks like, smells like, sounds like... absolute energy of love. Something indescribable, so gorgeous, deep, and all-encompassing, that for several days I felt this overwhelming surge of happiness just knowing that She is within me and I am within Her.

And then, during one of those dark, crushing moments in life when I was certain my daughter was dying in my arms, this realization flashed through me—so final, bringing such immediate relief because I understood that the only thing truly worth giving to any other human being is what I already carry inside me—love—and that it's the only thing actually worth taking with us when we head back home, because the death of our body is not our death.

After those flashes of realizing who we actually are, I found myself aching for those experiences to repeat, because over time the memories of the feelings that accompanied them start to fade, and I just wanted to feel it all again. Then it hit me... these realizations came from within me, which means those feelings are still there, and I can pull them out whenever I want, which means—I just need to be the person I realized I was. Granted, it isn't exactly "just" that, because illusions are so incredibly convincing they feel entirely real, but there is such relief in knowing that everything is inside you and that at any given moment you can be what we all actually are. But the choice of how we choose to manifest that remains, ultimately, ours alone...

------------> Once someone finds the joy that comes from simply Being content, they’ll never be anything less than content. Tao Te Ching

And Be yourself, no matter what they say!

mistygull16 said:Consciousness is just one single thing, and that’s God...

But once God starts branching out into a million different directions, consciousness kind of looks like it’s splitting up too.

I guess you could say the average person's mind is split into pieces—like conscious thought, the subconscious (your personality), and the unconscious (destiny). Or maybe we’re just drifting from being wide awake into dreams, then falling into a deep sleep... basically, you could call Consciousness a trinity. I mean, I'm guessing it's not a coincidence that God is viewed as a trinity, too.

When those walls finally come down and those three layers merge back into one, that's when you hit that state of samadhi or flow, where the subject, the object, and the whole process of knowing become one single thing.

The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva.
The Observer, the Observation, and the observed.
.......................

"3" = 1
1 : 3 = 1
1 = "3"

"Three" = The Whole
One divided by three = An apparent Trinity, a "split" Wholeness
One = A Wholeness that just looks like three...

Subconscious?? Subconscious???? 😕

I read that book back when I was just a kid. Man, the way it's written is totally hypnotic! It really hits you... 🙂

I used to buy into all that too 🙄
But after experiencing a real "shift"—or what people call a "breakthrough" now—I just can't wrap my head around what most folks mean when they talk about the subconscious.

The way I see things now, there's NO such thing as a "subconscious" in the way everyone else defines it.

There's no subconscious, no Superconsciousness, no unconsciousness, no super-awareness, no Divine consciousness, or any other flavor of consciousness! Why do we have to dig so deep and overcomplicate this Simple Consciousness with all these layers, levels, degrees, and dimensions? You can't just split consciousness up into different "classes" or whatever!
Consciousness is everything and everyone!
There is only Consciousness which is aware, but also happens to be aware of all the different explanations it gives itself 🙂.

You could say that Consciousness kind of "limits" itself (just playing around a bit here 🤣 ) as "Something," like the "subconscious." Just Consciousness being limited AS "subconscious"

There's no sub-Consciousness and no super-Consciousness.
In front of it, nobody is special or suppressed, nothing is superior or inferior, and there are no higher or lower states. There's just Consciousness that has temporarily "shaped" itself into something like being Human. And being human is just Consciousness "limited" to a human form.

Just Consciousness.....

.......................................AllIsness

Peter Phillips32 said:There’s this fundamental flaw baked right into how people describe those brief moments of unknown, and honestly, there might be a massive mistake in even treating these little flashes of unknown as something inherently "good" or beneficial for the individual.

Think about it—someone living in an unaware state is basically stumbling through life with blurry vision, totally clueless about what the world actually looks like through the eyes of someone who is truly awake. There's a massive gulf between being unaware and being awake, even if both states technically persist. If an unaware person hits one of those short bursts of unknown, they suddenly see things with total clarity, but then, almost instantly, they slide right back into their usual fog where everything is hazy again.

So, if the world is a blur to them normally, then whatever clarity they caught during that flash of unknown becomes just as inaccessible once the moment passes and the vision goes fuzzy again. This means that pretty much any description of "clarity"—unless it was literally scribbled down while the person was mid-unknown—is fundamentally flawed and unreliable because it’s being recounted from a state of blurred vision.

And hey, let's throw another layer onto this fundamental mess.

It’s worth asking: just how much clearer does an unaware person actually see during one of these brief bursts? I mean, what kind of metric can you even use to verify the depth or the scale of that clarity when it hits them?

Unless an unaware person reaches the exact same level of perception and insight as someone who is fully awake during that burst, you can't really trust that what they saw was actually accurate.

But man, that just opens up a whole new rabbit hole of questions.

Anyway, that's my two cents.

So "lucid"! 🙂

Man, after reading that, a picture popped into my head. I'll try to sketch it out here...

MMMMM MMMM MM mmmmm Mmmm m m
.................................................. ....................

The top row represents (for now) thoughts and the gaps between thoughts. The second row is those little dots that are always there—kind of like the "background" or the "screen" where thoughts and the absence of thought show up. I don't know how else to explain it besides using that unknown perspective. The top row is dualistic, the dots are non-dual, and together they make up an incomprehensible truth—neither dual nor non-dual, neither both nor neither. Just pure Consciousness, Life, Oneness...

Right now, most people are stuck in MMMMM MMMM.
MMMMM MMMM means people are living almost entirely inside their heads, so they don't even see those dots underneath; they only see the world through their programmed, filtered lenses...

"Those with limited vision are fearful and indecisive: the faster they rush, the slower they progress." — Seng-Tsan

Those bolded "Mm" letters represent those heavy, rigid filters. But there are these tiny moments where those filters drop—intervals and pauses between thoughts—and because of those empty spaces, you can actually see "below" at the non-dual dots. That interval is that moment of unknown, like a slice of Pure Consciousness. A brief "Seeing" without the mental chatter. You just "see the absence of thought." But pretty soon, the mind comes rushing back in, all bold and strong, trying to explain away the unexplainable (the mind's whole thing is trying to shove everything into some neat little box 🤣)

Peter Phillips32 said:There’s this fundamental flaw baked right into how people describe those brief moments of unknown, and honestly, there might be a massive mistake in even treating these little flashes of unknown as something inherently "good" or beneficial for the individual.

Think about it—someone living in an unaware state is basically stumbling through life with blurry vision, totally clueless about what the world actually looks like through the eyes of someone who is truly awake. There's a massive gulf between being unaware and being awake, even if both states technically persist. If an unaware person hits one of those short bursts of unknown, they suddenly see things with total clarity, but then, almost instantly, they slide right back into their usual fog where everything is hazy again.

So, if the world is a blur to them normally, then whatever clarity they caught during that flash of unknown becomes just as inaccessible once the moment passes and the vision goes fuzzy again. This means that pretty much any description of "clarity"—unless it was literally scribbled down while the person was mid-unknown—is fundamentally flawed and unreliable because it’s being recounted from a state of blurred vision.

And hey, let's throw another layer onto this fundamental mess.

It’s worth asking: just how much clearer does an unaware person actually see during one of these brief bursts? I mean, what kind of metric can you even use to verify the depth or the scale of that clarity when it hits them?

Unless an unaware person reaches the exact same level of perception and insight as someone who is fully awake during that burst, you can't really trust that what they saw was actually accurate.

But man, that just opens up a whole new rabbit hole of questions.

Anyway, that's my two cents.

Once that "clear vision" window shuts, everything gets clouded by heavy mental noise or just that "empty void" feeling. And honestly, every description of true clarity, including the stuff written during those brief flashes, is totally flawed and inaccurate because it's written from memory via a blurred lens. It’s all written after the fact, trying to use words in a > way, because you can't describe it non-dually—you can only "feel" it. ----> "See for yourself" Shoitsu

Peter Phillips32 said:There’s this fundamental flaw baked right into how people describe those brief moments of unknown, and honestly, there might be a massive mistake in even treating these little flashes of unknown as something inherently "good" or beneficial for the individual.

Think about it—someone living in an unaware state is basically stumbling through life with blurry vision, totally clueless about what the world actually looks like through the eyes of someone who is truly awake. There's a massive gulf between being unaware and being awake, even if both states technically persist. If an unaware person hits one of those short bursts of unknown, they suddenly see things with total clarity, but then, almost instantly, they slide right back into their usual fog where everything is hazy again.

So, if the world is a blur to them normally, then whatever clarity they caught during that flash of unknown becomes just as inaccessible once the moment passes and the vision goes fuzzy again. This means that pretty much any description of "clarity"—unless it was literally scribbled down while the person was mid-unknown—is fundamentally flawed and unreliable because it’s being recounted from a state of blurred vision.

And hey, let's throw another layer onto this fundamental mess.

It’s worth asking: just how much clearer does an unaware person actually see during one of these brief bursts? I mean, what kind of metric can you even use to verify the depth or the scale of that clarity when it hits them?

Unless an unaware person reaches the exact same level of perception and insight as someone who is fully awake during that burst, you can't really trust that what they saw was actually accurate.

But man, that just opens up a whole new rabbit hole of questions.

Anyway, that's my two cents.

I think there's a slight misunderstanding here. During those brief flashes of clarity, "Seeing Sees" with absolute, unmistakable sharpness—it's just a fleeting, inexplicable taste of Truth. When you're in that state of pure "Awareness," there's zero need to try and measure how wide or deep that clarity is. There's just no reason to. Only the > or the persona would feel the need to check. And that "checking" is exactly what causes the window to slam shut, clouding everything up with overthinking, analyzing, proving things, comparing it to what they already know, or getting lost in that hollow emptiness... it just smudges the lens. But even a millisecond feels like an eternity, and that tiny flash leaves such a sweet, permanent mark that it can totally change someone's life without actually changing anything at all. Before long, another, more lasting interval shows up. 😉 You can't force it.

Peter Phillips32 said:There’s this fundamental flaw baked right into how people describe those brief moments of unknown, and honestly, there might be a massive mistake in even treating these little flashes of unknown as something inherently "good" or beneficial for the individual.

Think about it—someone living in an unaware state is basically stumbling through life with blurry vision, totally clueless about what the world actually looks like through the eyes of someone who is truly awake. There's a massive gulf between being unaware and being awake, even if both states technically persist. If an unaware person hits one of those short bursts of unknown, they suddenly see things with total clarity, but then, almost instantly, they slide right back into their usual fog where everything is hazy again.

So, if the world is a blur to them normally, then whatever clarity they caught during that flash of unknown becomes just as inaccessible once the moment passes and the vision goes fuzzy again. This means that pretty much any description of "clarity"—unless it was literally scribbled down while the person was mid-unknown—is fundamentally flawed and unreliable because it’s being recounted from a state of blurred vision.

And hey, let's throw another layer onto this fundamental mess.

It’s worth asking: just how much clearer does an unaware person actually see during one of these brief bursts? I mean, what kind of metric can you even use to verify the depth or the scale of that clarity when it hits them?

Unless an unaware person reaches the exact same level of perception and insight as someone who is fully awake during that burst, you can't really trust that what they saw was actually accurate.

But man, that just opens up a whole new rabbit hole of questions.

Anyway, that's my two cents.

A brief "Awakening" is exactly the same as constant "Awakening"

In constant "Awareness," thoughts still drift in and out, but they aren't heavy or overwhelming anymore; they aren't the main event. Awareness illuminates the thoughts and everything else that pops up, letting you "see" Everything in its true, clear light.

Peter Phillips32 said:There’s this fundamental flaw baked right into how people describe those brief moments of unknown, and honestly, there might be a massive mistake in even treating these little flashes of unknown as something inherently "good" or beneficial for the individual.

Think about it—someone living in an unaware state is basically stumbling through life with blurry vision, totally clueless about what the world actually looks like through the eyes of someone who is truly awake. There's a massive gulf between being unaware and being awake, even if both states technically persist. If an unaware person hits one of those short bursts of unknown, they suddenly see things with total clarity, but then, almost instantly, they slide right back into their usual fog where everything is hazy again.

So, if the world is a blur to them normally, then whatever clarity they caught during that flash of unknown becomes just as inaccessible once the moment passes and the vision goes fuzzy again. This means that pretty much any description of "clarity"—unless it was literally scribbled down while the person was mid-unknown—is fundamentally flawed and unreliable because it’s being recounted from a state of blurred vision.

And hey, let's throw another layer onto this fundamental mess.

It’s worth asking: just how much clearer does an unaware person actually see during one of these brief bursts? I mean, what kind of metric can you even use to verify the depth or the scale of that clarity when it hits them?

Unless an unaware person reaches the exact same level of perception and insight as someone who is fully awake during that burst, you can't really trust that what they saw was actually accurate.

But man, that just opens up a whole new rabbit hole of questions.

Anyway, that's my two cents.

Once you get that clear "Vision," all the questions just kind of melt away on their own... nothing left to wonder about...🤷

mistygull16 said:I guess my take is that enlightenment is just seeing reality for what it really is—stepping outside the ego—while still navigating life in a physical body. it's like shifting focus from the crown chakra down to the third eye; otherwise, you wouldn't even be able to function in the world.

😉 I'm totally on board with what you said about enlightenment being an insight into the true state of things (beyond the persona) while we're living our lives in these bodies.
I'd just add that it's an insight into the truth without the self.
That insight "sees" a specific person navigating a specific life, living in a specific world and universe.
It "sees" someone who desperately wants to "wake up," only to realize there's actually nobody there who needs waking up...
That's why for me, unknown = "unknown"...

🙂 So many words and questions...

nimblewolf11 said:To "hold on" would literally mean maintaining a connection—staying tuned to that subtle internal flow that's actually fused with everything outside, staying consciously linked to the whole, keeping focus, and all that good stuff.

unknown:

Then you start overanalyzing everything, right? You try to link it back to things you think you know, and suddenly that pure "Seeing" starts getting clouded. It gets foggy! All that infinite, miraculous, holistic, all-encompassing, timeless, nameless, spontaneous space that we all actually *are*... it just gets totally obscured by concepts, by someone else's visions, by dogmas, or by our own standards. Instead of seeing clearly, you just see more concepts, more rigid visions, and more rules.

Those weakened concepts—the ones hanging on in the corners of the mind—aren't at the center of attention anymore, so they aren't being fed. They aren't even interesting! They’re just made of illusions, hot air, and general nonsense. Once you have fertile ground where illusory concepts can be easily spotted and sorted out, you realize they're just composed of layers of old illusions (basically, thick lies).

unknown:

The Mind/Ego wants to be the King! It wants to be unknown! Because it thinks that's how it gains more power, knowledge, and control. Don't listen to anyone who claims to be an unknown person. That's just something an unknown person would say.

Honestly, we should just strangle the conceptual ego and toss it in the trash where it belongs—it's a joke, really.

Yeah, if someone thinks or says they are an unknown person, there's a huge chance they've just fallen for the concept of being unknown. The simple fact that an "unknown person" misses is that such a person doesn't actually exist. Those two ideas are fundamentally incompatible! For someone truly unknown, dogmas and concepts don't exist, which means there are no boxes to be stuck in.

I'm a little tripped up by this idea of "holding on." 🙂 I'd love to get some clarity from you on that, because maybe I'm just not "getting" what you mean exactly...

I really hope this "holding onto the connection" isn't some kind of practice where it's like, "I have to be mindful and remember this self-realization!" or "I have to stay present," or "I need to try hard to be aware!" or "I can't forget this!" and stuff like that.
To me, I am Consciousness itself, which doesn't have to strain to be aware. Consciousness just *is* aware and connected to everything all at once. There’s no such thing as an unaware Consciousness. When I look within, I see that Consciousness is everything! (viewed from the perspective of Consciousness) so everything is automatically connected, which makes me feel like there's no need to "hold onto" a connection like it's some sort of activity or practice. We *are* Consciousness, and as such, we're automatically connected to everything...

I'm bringing this up because during my past short-lived "flashes," I always found myself thinking about how to hold onto them afterward 🙂 And then the mind starts its usual tactics—trying to grab it, possess it, explain it, or use it. That mental attempt to grasp and hold onto that "miraculous, fleeting, indescribable moment of clarity" only ends up thickening that fog=unknown, which Miguel Ruiz described so well in his books.
Words are incredibly powerful if you "believe" in them, creating a virtual reality that "masks" the natural reality.

P.S. This "masking," self-help, and the path toward unknown is all just part of the game of Consciousness, and everyone's individual "journey."
Just a bit of a "divine" joke we play on ourselves.

👋
Namaste

unknown

electrictinker26 said:crimsonfox26. I remember feeling the exact same way back when my mornings felt just like yours. It’ll come back to you. I honestly think it's just a matter of getting back into the rhythm.

@William Roberts3, did that unknown energy finally kick in for you after what happened? Or was it more of a partial unknown rather than the full thing?

You should try smiling at the sun in the morning too. Just do it for no reason at all:🙂

unknown

electrictinker26 said:crimsonfox26. I remember feeling the exact same way back when my mornings felt just like yours. It’ll come back to you. I honestly think it's just a matter of getting back into the rhythm.

@William Roberts3, did that unknown energy finally kick in for you after what happened? Or was it more of a partial unknown rather than the full thing?

unknown? Is that some kind of opening up of a deep reserve until the cash starts flowing straight into your crown chakra??

I love messing around a bit🙂.

You definitely mean unknown.
For now, I'll just describe it simply without getting all caught up in the technical jargon.
Everything feels so alive and vital!
Physically and instinctually, everything shifted—the flow, the drive... my libido is intense and seems to distribute itself wherever it needs to go automatically, like some built-in regulator. If there's sex, it's intense, pure, uninhibited sex... and if there isn't, that energy just redirects itself toward work, art, creativity, action, or just wild fun, like skydiving or surfing... even if someone gets physically attacked, that energy "tightens up" for survival. We've all seen how much strength the body can pull from during a crisis.

unknown

electrictinker26 said:crimsonfox26. I remember feeling the exact same way back when my mornings felt just like yours. It’ll come back to you. I honestly think it's just a matter of getting back into the rhythm.

@William Roberts3, did that unknown energy finally kick in for you after what happened? Or was it more of a partial unknown rather than the full thing?

I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. Could you clarify?

P.S. Only post about your current or recent experiences; if you want to talk about old ones, just drop a link if you feel like it. Also, share those short but deep insights. Something like: "I thought I was in the deepest hole ever, only to realize I wasn't in a hole at all." 🤣

unknown...

crimsonfox26 said:For me, these little awakenings hit like an "aha!" moment—quick, sharp, and gone just as fast.

Looking at what William Roberts3 wrote, it feels like when I was younger, I lived in that state almost constantly. To be honest, I’m pretty sure I was more awake back then than I am now.

Lately, I’ve been stuck in this headspace where everything feels a bit flat, like I’m missing that drive or spark in my life. Maybe it’s just a phase, though.
I still find myself looking back with a bit of nostalgia at those mornings when I’d wake up feeling genuinely happy for no particular reason, step out onto the balcony, and just smile at the sun sorry.😢

Sorry for the off-topic rambling; I know I didn't really answer the prompt, more like highlighted what's missing.🤣

Talk soon.

I'll be keeping an eye on this thread; I'm liking the direction it's going.👍

The main thing is that things are actually happening...

crimsonfox26 said:For me, these little awakenings hit like an "aha!" moment—quick, sharp, and gone just as fast.

Looking at what William Roberts3 wrote, it feels like when I was younger, I lived in that state almost constantly. To be honest, I’m pretty sure I was more awake back then than I am now.

Lately, I’ve been stuck in this headspace where everything feels a bit flat, like I’m missing that drive or spark in my life. Maybe it’s just a phase, though.
I still find myself looking back with a bit of nostalgia at those mornings when I’d wake up feeling genuinely happy for no particular reason, step out onto the balcony, and just smile at the sun sorry.😢

Sorry for the off-topic rambling; I know I didn't really answer the prompt, more like highlighted what's missing.🤣

Talk soon.

I'll be keeping an eye on this thread; I'm liking the direction it's going.👍

See, this is exactly why I feel like kids would actually run things way better than those people who think they're all "grown up"...

crimsonfox26 said:For me, these little awakenings hit like an "aha!" moment—quick, sharp, and gone just as fast.

Looking at what William Roberts3 wrote, it feels like when I was younger, I lived in that state almost constantly. To be honest, I’m pretty sure I was more awake back then than I am now.

Lately, I’ve been stuck in this headspace where everything feels a bit flat, like I’m missing that drive or spark in my life. Maybe it’s just a phase, though.
I still find myself looking back with a bit of nostalgia at those mornings when I’d wake up feeling genuinely happy for no particular reason, step out onto the balcony, and just smile at the sun sorry.😢

Sorry for the off-topic rambling; I know I didn't really answer the prompt, more like highlighted what's missing.🤣

Talk soon.

I'll be keeping an eye on this thread; I'm liking the direction it's going.👍

So, what's stopping you from just waking up happy and smiling at the sun right now??...
You wrote that for no reason! Like, do you even need a reason to just be happy for no reason at all?... 🙂

Morning is almost here... 😉